Re: MI - Phriday Philosophy

2000-08-25 Thread Trey Pattillo



I think Bill does a great job and diversity has 
been a big key to this list's success.
Things like viruses and other trash are part of the 
game and are the user's responsiblity,
whether they send/receive on this 
list.
 
Even finding out that after being with MapInfo 
since v3.0 came out
and the stock has done at least 2 splits, that 
I remember recently, plus growth
I STILL DON'T HAVE ANY STOCK BEFORE THE 8 Sept 
DEADLINE :=(
 
Any one want to trade DiaBuilder2000 for 
stock.[kidding]
 
Thanks Bill and keep it up.
 
 
 
Trey Pattillo[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wap3.com


Re: MI New Company

2000-08-25 Thread Bill Thoen

Toby Walker wrote:
> 
> Hey list, I've been looking at a new company that deems themselves SIM guys.
>   Im not sure what this paradigm is, but the Company is called
> TerraGraphics.  I checked out their web site by fluke this morning, and I
> wanted to see what other GIScientests thought about this..

Well, the term "GIS" never did cut in the business world, and the
Canadians (who invented the discipline) dropped it in favor of
"Geomatics" as soon they realized that the Usonians (US
Americans) decided that it was cool and appropriated it. And now,
"Spatial Information Management," or SIM, appears in a web page
with phrases like "Convergent Technology," "Amplified Mapping at
Terminal Velocity," "market share," "competitive advantage,"
"businesss intelligence" and a great deal of additional
hyperbolic buzzword twaddle. I see no "science" here (other than
transparent propaganda.) But give them credit, sometimes a new
name is all that's required to sell a well-known technology.

Perhaps there's some science there in the background, but the web
page tells us only that they have a geek in residence (GIR), and
that he's just amazed the marketing staff with his brilliance.
(well of course... GIS, like any other suffciently advanced
technology, is indistinguishable from magic to hoi polloi.) But I
saw no examples of anything concrete; just colorful words. Good
job there though. Inspiring rhetoric with no visibles means of
support. That sort of thing is yet another kind of magic. This
web page makes my thaumometer pratically go off the scale. But
where's the science?

Finally, this line bothered me, especially on top of so much
vacuousness. From their web page:
> "At a time when Geographic Information Systems and Information Technology are 
>converging into a new business discipline called Spatial Information Management, one 
>company plans the complete infiltration and exploitation of geography in the 
business marketplace—TerraGraphics..."

"...complete infiltration and exploitation of geography..." 
"...complete infiltration and exploitation of geography..." 
"...complete infiltration and exploitation of geography..." 

Sort of like "total war" eh?

I guess the Wooden Ships really were just a hippie dream.

- Bill Thoen

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MI Re: Open Table Interactive confusion

2000-08-25 Thread peterelphick

If you put "Interactive"after the mapbasic "Open Table" statement then if it
does not find the table, it will throw up the open table dialog to find the
table. If you omit "Interactive" and it does not find the table it will
generate an error.

- Original Message -
From: Wright, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 7:01 PM
Subject: MI: Open Table Interactive confusion


> Hello All,
>
> Could anyone explain to me the logic behind the usage of the
> "Interactive" keyword in the "Open Table" statement?  It seems that MI
> decides randomly whether to place the "Interactive" keyword at the end of
> that statement.  It would seem to me that it should put it on ALL open
table
> statements, but this is just not the case.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Kevin Wright
> ICF Consulting
> Senior GIS Associate
> 9300 Lee Highway
> Fairfax, Virginia  22031-1207
> Voice:(703)218-2647
> Fax:(703)934-3974
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MI New Company

2000-08-25 Thread Toby Walker

Hey list, I've been looking at a new company that deems themselves SIM guys. 
  Im not sure what this paradigm is, but the Company is called 
TerraGraphics.  I checked out their web site by fluke this morning, and I 
wanted to see what other GIScientests thought about this..


thanx and have a great day
MapGuy

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RE: MI - Phriday Philosophy

2000-08-25 Thread Patrick Phillips

I have an open mind and a free will.  I use my open mind to evaluate the
topics discussed on MapInfo-L.  My free will come into play when I delete
what I am not interested in reading.  I would imagine, from the general tone
and course this list has taken, that I am not alone in open mind and free
will.

I like the list as it stands.  We live in a dynamic world.  It is because of
this worlds dynamics that I am employed.  I would much prefer this list not
drift toward a more static format.

Patrick J. Phillips
GIS Programmer II
City of Orlando, FL

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Re: Phriday Philosophy (was: MI and Manifold)

2000-08-25 Thread Andrew_Dressel

>I still find the easiest way to deal with this is the self-editting
>method.  The delete key remains my favorite tool!

Another way to avoid the hassle of junk in your in-box is to monitor
the list on one of the web sites that mirrors it instead of subscribing
to it. I follow it our site at
http://testdrive.mapinfo.com/tdc/mapinfo-l.nsf/$about?openabout

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Fw: MI Friday Humour - More Reflections on Breaking News...

2000-08-25 Thread Marc Plato

But some Okie's do think its funny, if it happens to an Arkansan

Okie State Cowboy

- Original Message -
From: "Lavoie, Claude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Andy'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mapinfo Mailing List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: MI Friday Humour - Reflections on Breaking News...


> As it is Friday, I indulge in reflecting about this joke.
>
> I have come across this one a few times: the joke is the same, but the
> locale of the event varies according to the birthplace of the storyteller:
a
> French will place it in Belgium, a Canadian in Newfoundland, an Englishman
> in Ireland, an American in Arkansas or Oklahoma (of course, no Okie would
> consider it funny).
>
> I am not critical of the choice, just pointing out that each place has a
> scapegoat.
>
> "On est toujours un peu l'Iroquois de quelqu'un" (Sylvain Lelièvre),
loosely
> translated as "One is always someone else's laughing stock".
>
> Good weekend to you all.
>
> _
>
> Claude Lavoie, a.g.
> Service du soutien à la clientèle
> Direction des technologies de l'information
> Ministère des Transports du Québec
> 35, rue de Port-Royal Est, salle 5.00 a
> Montréal (Québec)
> H3L 3T1
>
> Téléphone: (514) 873-6280
> Télécopieur: (514) 873-8203
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>
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Date: 25 août 2000 05:08
> À: Mapinfo Mailing List
> Objet: MI Friday Humour - Breaking News...
>
>
> Ireland's* worst air disaster occurred early this morning when a small
> two-seater Cessna plane crashed into a cemetery. Irish search and rescue
> workers have recovered 826 bodies so far and expect that number to climb
as
> digging continues into the night.
>
>
>
>
> *If you are Irish, feel free to swap nations as appropriate.
>
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RE: MI Locate nearest...

2000-08-25 Thread Wright, Kevin

If you don't want to write a MapBasic (or don't have it) routine, then try
this out.

Create five new float type columns in your table.
Labels: (or something like this)

Long1
Lat1
Long2
Lat2
Distance

*   Update the long1 column in your whole table with the longitude and
the Lat1 with the Latitude of the fixed point (or street address in your
case)
*   Update the Long2 and Lat2 with the Long and Lat of your variable
points or store locations (use the CentroidX and CentroidY functions in your
update statement)
*   Update the Distance column of your table using the expression
Distance(Long1,Lat1,Long2,Long2,"mi")
*   Sort your table by distance to get a table ordered by the distance
from your address to the store locations

There you have it.  Keep in mind a few things.  This is just ONE way.  There
are several other ways to do it as well.  Also keep in mind that the
distance function returns a "Great Circle" distance if you are in a earth
coord system and a Cartesian distance if you are in a non-earth projection.

Hope this was of some use to you, Ken

Take care,
Kevin Wright
ICF Consulting
Senior GIS Associate
9300 Lee Highway
Fairfax, Virginia  22031-1207
Voice:(703)218-2647
Fax:(703)934-3974
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-Original Message-
From:   Ken Fioretti [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, August 25, 2000 1:34 PM
To: 'MAPINFO-L'
Subject:MI Locate nearest...

Hello All,
What is the simplest way to locate the nearest point(s) from a table
of
multiple points to another point. For example, I have a table of
store
locations and the point of a single address. How do I determine
which
are the nearest 3 stores in the store table to the address point? Do
I
need to write a MapBasic routine, or is there a native MI
function/command?
Thanks
Ken Fioretti


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Re: Phriday Philosophy (was: MI and Manifold)

2000-08-25 Thread Gary Schwartz

I for one really enjoy the open nature of MapInfo-L.  My interests in MapInfo cover a 
wide range, and to have to try to focus that would be difficult.  I also enjoy the 
email that is outside of my normal interest because occasionally there is something 
that strikes me as interesting.  It keeps me informed about topics that I wouldn't 
otherwise keep up with but still impact what I do for a living.  I would miss that if 
I had to pick and choose which MapInfo lists I subscribed
to.

I still find the easiest way to deal with this is the self-editting method.  The 
delete key remains my favorite tool!

Gary.


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RE: MI Locate nearest...

2000-08-25 Thread Ken Fioretti

Thanks Curt. 
I understand how the distance function would work. What if your 'store'
table has thousands or tens of thousands of records, wouldn't the query
be extremely slow?
Ken
> --
> From: Curt Newsome[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 3:26 PM
> To:   Ken Fioretti
> Subject:  Re: MI Locate nearest...
> 
> Ken, you can do this with an SQL query using the Distance function.
> If no
> one's sent you the "how-to" yet (the procedure is not very well
> documented
> in the books) let me know and I'll fill you in on it!
> 
> Curt Newsome
> 
> Ken Fioretti wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hello All,
> > What is the simplest way to locate the nearest point(s) from a table
> of
> > multiple points to another point. For example, I have a table of
> store
> > locations and the point of a single address. How do I determine
> which
> > are the nearest 3 stores in the store table to the address point? Do
> I
> > need to write a MapBasic routine, or is there a native MI
> > function/command?
> > Thanks
> > Ken Fioretti
> >
> >
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Phriday Philosophy (was: MI and Manifold)

2000-08-25 Thread Bill Thoen

In reference to the short discussion on whether Manifold is as good
as they say:

"Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc." wrote:
> Note: this sort of disturbs me (and still I like it) that we discuss other GIS's and 
>any topic actually on this MI-list... I just know arcview-l is moderated--they've 
>turned down a few of my innocuous queries about intl data--but to add to the 
>discussion regarding MI's marketing (I noticed several posts regarding their 
>education sector efforts) couldn't MI pony up to allow BT or anyone to sift through 
>stuff? at least we would not be a prime deliver of KAK...(pun intended)

As everybody here knows, MapInfo-L is a very open forum--some would
say it's too open, but I kind of like that aspect too. To my mind,
the horizon of my the GIS sphere doesn't end with MapInfo, and
learning of a few seemingly unrelated things seems to broaden my
view.

However, MapInfo-L isn't GIS-L or GISlist, and perhaps we need to
remind ourselves occasionally that it's main focus is MapInfo.
General GIS comments or questions probably ought to go to those
other lists first. I'd prefer to leave that as a guideline rather
than a rule, because I wouldn't want to be a censor, or suffer
anyone else's permission to post whatever I'd like to post.
Sometimes a serendipitous posting generates a very welcome but
unexpected line of thought.

Of course, a nicer and more positive term for censor would be
"editor." An editor would ensure that what makes it into the email
stream would be clean (no virus or spam) mail, summarized responses,
HTML format-free and attachment-stripped messages. The topics would
be limited to what that edited forum lists as relevant. Anyone could
post to the forum too, but whether their message just passes through
to the origin forum(s), or gets rejected, or gets included in the
edited feed depends on how closely they follow the forum's
guidelines.

Think of it as a managed portfolio of email. One focus might be
MapInfo-not-Programming, or another might be
MapInfo-with-significant-GIS-events. Still another might be
MapInfo-and-competition-wireless, or something like that. The
success of a edited forum would depend on a good set of email
management tools and of course, a good editor, who might be any one
of you with the ability and interest. 

This wouldn't be a free thing; either advertising pays for it or
subscribers do. I know from experience that it's a lot of work when
you try to deliver that sort of service. But would something like
this be worth anything to readers? 

- Bill Thoen

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MI Locate nearest...

2000-08-25 Thread Ken Fioretti

Hello All,
What is the simplest way to locate the nearest point(s) from a table of
multiple points to another point. For example, I have a table of store
locations and the point of a single address. How do I determine which
are the nearest 3 stores in the store table to the address point? Do I
need to write a MapBasic routine, or is there a native MI
function/command?
Thanks
Ken Fioretti

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MI Malaysia

2000-08-25 Thread Lawrence Loadman
Title: Malaysia





Hi List,


Anyone have a line on where I can purchase Malaysian data - such as county,zips,provincial( or equivalent) boundaries?



Lawrence Loadman
Competitive Intelligence/Leads Management Team
Nortel Networks
2 Constellation Cr. Nepean Ontario
ESN: 398-2980 (External) 613-768-2980
'The mind, once expanded to the dimensions of larger ideas, never returns to its original size. '







RE: MI Friday Humour - Reflections on Breaking News...

2000-08-25 Thread Lavoie, Claude

As it is Friday, I indulge in reflecting about this joke.

I have come across this one a few times: the joke is the same, but the
locale of the event varies according to the birthplace of the storyteller: a
French will place it in Belgium, a Canadian in Newfoundland, an Englishman
in Ireland, an American in Arkansas or Oklahoma (of course, no Okie would
consider it funny).

I am not critical of the choice, just pointing out that each place has a
scapegoat.

"On est toujours un peu l'Iroquois de quelqu'un" (Sylvain Lelièvre), loosely
translated as "One is always someone else's laughing stock". 

Good weekend to you all.

_

Claude Lavoie, a.g.
Service du soutien à la clientèle
Direction des technologies de l'information
Ministère des Transports du Québec
35, rue de Port-Royal Est, salle 5.00 a
Montréal (Québec)
H3L 3T1

Téléphone:  (514) 873-6280
Télécopieur:(514) 873-8203
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-Message d'origine-
De: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Date: 25 août 2000 05:08
À: Mapinfo Mailing List
Objet: MI Friday Humour - Breaking News...


Ireland's* worst air disaster occurred early this morning when a small
two-seater Cessna plane crashed into a cemetery. Irish search and rescue
workers have recovered 826 bodies so far and expect that number to climb as
digging continues into the night.




*If you are Irish, feel free to swap nations as appropriate.

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[Re: MI and Manifold; Output from MapInfo]

2000-08-25 Thread Ted Florence



For the records I would just like to add a small correction to Mr.
Bylov's posting
in the the current version of MAPublisher for Adobe Illustrator, which
is version
4.0, is 100% compatible with Adobe Illustrator 9.0.

Gleb Bylov wrote:

> Hello Listers,
> Well Manifold does not produce thematic maps the way MapInfo does it, so it
> can not possibly replace old good MapInfo. It's rather an extremely
> powerful GIS / spatial <> add-on to MapInfo (as well as to
> ArcView etc.). And their 3d visualisation stuff is cool too.
> Up till now, I was deliberately deleting all messages about printing from
> MapInfo. Now I have to produce a poster-size map from MapInfo and regret
> it. Can anyone offer any suggestions for professional [vector] output from
> MapInfo? Avenza's MapPublisher seems to do the job, but I recently noticed
> small notes on the website stating incompatibility of the most recent
> versions of MapPublisher and Illustrator / Freehand, the major host
> programs. Something to think about, given that upgrades to any subsequent
> versions from any of the parties (Avenza itself, Adobe and Macromedia)
> aren't cheap.
> The only option so far seems to be exporting MapInfo layers to dxf. Or
> converting everything from MapInfo to ArcView and exporting layers as Adobe
> Illustrator .ai files (very handy option in ArcView). However, in any case
> the attributes and formatting/design are lost by the time they reach any
> DTP program.
> Also, I tried printing from MapInfo to PDF - the output is raster, not vector.
> Any plug-in for Corel from MapInfo? Corel may be worse than Adobe packages,
> but it seems to have a decent vector output and the cost of upgrading to
> Corel 9 Graphics Suite (Draw and PhotoPaint and many more) is several times
> cheaper ($200 US) than buying or even upgrading Adobe Illustrator or Adobe
> Photoshop alone. And Corel offers competitive upgrades, Adobe does not.
> Does anyone know any other program (other than ArcView) that produces
> professional output from the layout and can eat MapInfo files? Any suggestions?
> Gleb.
>
> P.S. Some helpful resources on printing from MapInfo:
>
> http://www.sgsi.com/GraphicPubl_1099.htm
> (really good)
> http://www.pinebush.com/propress.html
>
> Gleb Bylov
> GIS Analyst
> CSCA, Ryerson Polytechnic University
> www.csca.ryerson.ca
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Re: MI and Manifold; Output from MapInfo

2000-08-25 Thread Gleb Bylov

Hello Listers,
Well Manifold does not produce thematic maps the way MapInfo does it, so it 
can not possibly replace old good MapInfo. It's rather an extremely 
powerful GIS / spatial <> add-on to MapInfo (as well as to 
ArcView etc.). And their 3d visualisation stuff is cool too.
Up till now, I was deliberately deleting all messages about printing from 
MapInfo. Now I have to produce a poster-size map from MapInfo and regret 
it. Can anyone offer any suggestions for professional [vector] output from 
MapInfo? Avenza's MapPublisher seems to do the job, but I recently noticed 
small notes on the website stating incompatibility of the most recent 
versions of MapPublisher and Illustrator / Freehand, the major host 
programs. Something to think about, given that upgrades to any subsequent 
versions from any of the parties (Avenza itself, Adobe and Macromedia) 
aren't cheap.
The only option so far seems to be exporting MapInfo layers to dxf. Or 
converting everything from MapInfo to ArcView and exporting layers as Adobe 
Illustrator .ai files (very handy option in ArcView). However, in any case 
the attributes and formatting/design are lost by the time they reach any 
DTP program.
Also, I tried printing from MapInfo to PDF - the output is raster, not vector.
Any plug-in for Corel from MapInfo? Corel may be worse than Adobe packages, 
but it seems to have a decent vector output and the cost of upgrading to 
Corel 9 Graphics Suite (Draw and PhotoPaint and many more) is several times 
cheaper ($200 US) than buying or even upgrading Adobe Illustrator or Adobe 
Photoshop alone. And Corel offers competitive upgrades, Adobe does not.
Does anyone know any other program (other than ArcView) that produces 
professional output from the layout and can eat MapInfo files? Any suggestions?
Gleb.


P.S. Some helpful resources on printing from MapInfo:

http://www.sgsi.com/GraphicPubl_1099.htm
(really good)
http://www.pinebush.com/propress.html








Gleb Bylov
GIS Analyst
CSCA, Ryerson Polytechnic University
www.csca.ryerson.ca

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Re: MI Back to basics....NTF styles

2000-08-25 Thread Gareth Hardman

Harry,

Speak to the OS - they used to say "no - use any you like - its not up to us
to dictate" - then they started to make some reccomendations. Suggest you
talk to them - they may have a template they could provide. If you dont have
any luck tracking down the right people then let me know - I can pass you a
few names to pester.

FC 1 was always red solid line,
FC21 a yellow solid one
FC 30 a black one..

Ahhhtakes me back to those good old days at the Survey

Gareth Hardman
Saturn Technologies


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Subject: MI Back to basicsNTF styles


> Hello All
>
> Is there a guide somewhere to 'recommended' NTF Landline styles & text?
> It's something I've always wondered about as everyone seems to use
different
> styles & layers.  It seems to me to be fairly important to get right first
> time as all your subsequent workspaces will depend on the presence of
> certain files.
>
> Harry Bell
> GIS Project Manager
> East Dorset District Council
>
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Re: MI and Manifold

2000-08-25 Thread Andrew_Dressel

>Note: this sort of disturbs me (and still I like it) that we
>discuss other GIS's and any topic actually on this MI-list...
>I just know arcview-l is moderated--they've turned down
>a few of my innocuous queries about intl data--but to add
>to the discussion regarding MI's marketing (I noticed
>several posts regarding their education sector efforts) couldn't
>MI pony up to allow BT or anyone to sift through stuff? at
>least we would not be a prime deliver of KAK...(pun intended)

I like MapInfo-L just the way Bill runs it. I find the
discussions to be a tremendous resource, and I would hate to
see them reined in by MapInfo Corp. or anyone else.


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Re: MI MapInfo 5.0.1 Polygon Snapping Problem

2000-08-25 Thread Jerry E. Howard

Yes.  I found that the projections of the two table are different which causes the
points to come out at a different location.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  I have recently come across my first major error using MapInfo and my own
> tech support staff has not heard of it.  My problem occurs when I am drawing
> polygons using underlying layers to determine the boundaries.  Using the snap
> function and the cross hairs to determine the snap vertice point, after I
> release the mouse button, the vertice snaps to a point to the right about 1/4
> inch on the screen.  No other layers are selectable.  I have packed the table,
> tried snapping using other layers and have closed down MapInfo, but to no
> success.  Has anybody else come across this problem and if so could you shed
> some light on the subject.
>


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Re: MI: Simultaneous file sharing, multiple users

2000-08-25 Thread Jerry E. Howard

I suggest using the redline Concept.  If one party wants to make edits, create a
blank work table that is commonly located to everyone.  Each will have its own
editable table with their marks on it.  Have them use a different color Crayon.
When everyone displays the original map, either add the "red line" tables into
the workspace or have separate windows indicating changes.  These "Red Line"
tables can be reused over and over.  If you let numerous people attempt to
change a table simultaneously (currently not possible) who's information is said
to be right and who's information needs to be removed?  (unless it is the boss's
and we know who's answer is correct)


Jason Adam wrote:

> Good day List-
> I have had a request to look into something that may not be MapInfo specific
> but I thought the collective knowledge base here may have an idea or two.
> I'm looking at a way to have two (or more) users simultaneously look at a
> network file and mark edits on it in real time, kind of like a video
> conference or virtual/net meeting. Essentially it would be like everyone
> gathered around one computer and suggesting ideas while one person executed
> them with MapInfo, but instead they want to sit at their own terminals and
> see the same thing.  This is especially useful for others on the company
> network who are not in the same regional office.
>
> Would a solution have to be application specific?  If all the participants
> had the same software on their machines (be it MapInfo, ERmapper etc), would
> there be a way to show a window of what the others were doing on everyone's
> screen?


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Re: MI exporting maps to word

2000-08-25 Thread Jerry E. Howard

Simply Copy and Paste Window from Mapinfo to Powerpoint.  It works great.

"Harry, Clayton" wrote:

> Bill,
> I am constantly creating maps for engineering meetings and they all use
> PowerPoint presentation slides these days.  What I do is at the point where
> you actually save the file, change the selection from Windows Bitmap (*.bmp)
> to select a Windows Metafile (*.wmf).  The maps are not as pixilated in this
> format as are the bitmap images.
>
> Clayton L. Harry
> GIS Analyst
> CapRock
> COMMUNICATIONS CORP.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Holden, Bill (CY - City Planning)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: MI exporting maps to word
>
> hi
>
> we are exporting map windows (mapinfo professional 6) to word (save window
> as...file format..insert picture) with poor results.  i searched the archive
> and saw some stuff suggesting this process back in the v.4 days.  is this as
> good as it gets?
>
> thanks
>
> Bill Holden
> Senior Planner I
> *   Demographics
> *   Statistical Analysis
> *   Planning Information
>
> Planning Research and Information Resource Centre
> City Planning Branch
> Community Services Department
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Re: Summary - MI Oracle and MapInfo - Map/nHand?

2000-08-25 Thread Gary Schwartz

Hi,

I just wanted to chime in on this Wireless conversation.  While MapInfo's
pre-packaged solutions are Java/Oracle based, that doesn't mean that wireless
mapping can't be done with MapInfo products without Java and Oracle.  All that's
required is a server-side application that supports the WAP protocol which is
very well documented -- check out Nokia's site at
http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/1,6668,1_1,00.html (requires you to sign up, but
it's free and includes a very cool wap-enabled phone simulator for testing).
Another good resource is The Wireless FAQ at http://allnetdevices.com/faq/

As a test, I wrote an Active Server Pages application using MapXsite
(significantly less expensive than MapXtreme!) to do a scaled-down dealer
locator.  It worked fine with the Nokia simulator.  I haven't tested it with
anything else, but as a proof of concept I think it was a success.  The only
real difference between what I wrote and a traditional MapXsite application is
that instead of spitting out HTML, the application has to write WML (which is
similar to HTML).  Of course, MapInfo would prefer to sell larger (read more
expensive) solutions in this arena because the players tend to have a lot of
dough.  To be honest, I like to make money, too.  But if we can leverage
existing, lower cost products, then I think we have the ability to make our
money on the application development side and still provide a lower-cost
alternative to the customer.

I believe that the real challenge is not from a programming standpoint, but from
a cartographic.  How can we make useful, engaging maps that display on a
monochrome screen within miniscule real estate?  I'm not sure how big the
PalmPilot screen is, but I think the Nokia phone is only 96 pixels wide by 65
pixels high!  I'd love to hear some discussion on this topic, especially
considering the fact that these devices are likely to get smaller and smaller.
I think I heard somewhere that IBM has developed a prototype wristwatch with
wireless capability.  How are we going to display maps on that?!?

Gary Schwartz
Manager Application Development
Mapping Analytics


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Re: MI Label Placement

2000-08-25 Thread Mark Denil

No GIS handles text or labels very well, and in fact all GIS graphics
handling is, at its very best, barely adequate. A map is a complex graphic
product which requires sophisticated graphics tools for creation and
manipulation. A GIS is for storage, retrieval, manipulation and analysis of
geographic information. Once that is done and one wants to make a MAP (ie a
GRAPHIC) the data must be rolled into a graphics program. 
That said, I was impressed last year at the International Cartographic
Association conference with the ESRI Maplex demonstration I saw. There was
also a Norwegian (?) company, whose name escapes me, which had some
improved map graphics tools which worked with major vendor GIS data. I must
search for the brochure...
Mark Denil
Halifax NS

>I have seen a product called Label-EZ which is used to place labels in
>MapInfo (and other GIS's) a lot more cleverly than MapInfo can. It can also
>handle curved labels, leadering, contour labelling etc. It is also very
>expensive. Are there any other label placement/enhancement products in use
>out there that can be recommended? Any of you that are producing high
>quality map products, what do you use? Do some of you export and do the
>labelling outside of MapInfo?
>
>Regards
>Tony
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>Gore District Council
>Gore, New Zealand
>Gore, the brown trout capital
>www.goredc.govt.nz
>www.mataura.com
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2000-08-25 Thread saptech

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RE: MI Importing from Mapguide to Mapinfo/MapX.

2000-08-25 Thread Doug

ESRI format is published so you could use the MapGuide SDF SDK to generate
the actual ArcView stuff easy.  Unfortunately, MI hold their cards closer to
their chest but a TAB SDK is available where business case is appropriate.
This means that from the SDF SDK you could be creating MI files and
bypassing the need to purchase FME - note that I am not knocking FME! It is
a great product and IMHO should be on every GIS professional's desk.  For
reasons of automation, you do not need it - but i think u have to get the
TAB SDK deal direct from MI.
doug


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Sent: 25 August 2000 09:05
To: 'climber'
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Subject: RE: MI Importing from Mapguide to Mapinfo/MapX.


The word from the MapGuide community is in agreement:

Convert to SDL using the SDF Loader, then import into MI using FME...

-Original Message-
From: climber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 August 2000 00:33
To: Martin, Christopher (WSA Telford)
Cc: 'Pablo Francisco Sparta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MI Importing from Mapguide to Mapinfo/MapX.


You should check out Vancouver, Canada's, Safe Software, and their
Translators: FME Professional Suite, or FME Professional ESRI Suite.
It's
worth the money considering the power to translate geospatial
information.
Both MapInfo and ESRI use a subset of FME for their products
translators.
http://www.safe.com/

I can attest to FME Professional Suite for MapInfo and it's ability to
correctly translate CARIS NTX files.  Provided the data is exported
properly
from CARIS.

Stan Johnston
Geologist

"Martin, Christopher (WSA Telford)" wrote:

> I'm not aware of a more direct route (but that doesn't mean to say
there
> isn't one!), but you can use the SDF COM Toolkit to manipulate (ie.
> read) your SDF's. If another lister can provide you with the necessary
> information to create TABs etc..
>
> [The mapguide SDF loader can also create SDLs - ASCII-versions of
SDFs]
>
> CJM
> -Original Message-
> From: Pablo Francisco Sparta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 24 August 2000 15:11
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: MI Importing from Mapguide to Mapinfo/MapX.
>
> How can I import from Mapguide format (SDF) to Mapinfo/MapX formats
> (TAB)?
> Thank you,
> Pablo Sparta.
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MI Back to basics....NTF styles

2000-08-25 Thread Harry Bell

Hello All

Is there a guide somewhere to 'recommended' NTF Landline styles & text?
It's something I've always wondered about as everyone seems to use different
styles & layers.  It seems to me to be fairly important to get right first
time as all your subsequent workspaces will depend on the presence of
certain files.

Harry Bell
GIS Project Manager
East Dorset District Council

*(01202) 886201  extn.2243
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MI/MB default 'dialog' font

2000-08-25 Thread Ian Allan

Hi

Can anyone tell me if there is a way to change the default font used in
dialog boxes to be courier. I'm trying to get columns of text to align
in mapbasic, but in the absense of courier, this seems as though it will
be impossible.

Thanks

Ian Allan

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MI Friday Humour - Breaking News...

2000-08-25 Thread Andy

Ireland's* worst air disaster occurred early this morning when a small
two-seater Cessna plane crashed into a cemetery. Irish search and rescue
workers have recovered 826 bodies so far and expect that number to climb as
digging continues into the night.




*If you are Irish, feel free to swap nations as appropriate.

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Re: MI predefined styles

2000-08-25 Thread Niklas (DGIS.se)



Lars,
 
try the address below and download a product called 
ScreenDig 2.0 demo. I think it's what you are looking for, except it handles 
symbols, lines and polygons (not text). The point is that the information you 
want to digitize is read from .Tab files or MS Access files at startup, so you 
define your own set of symbols, lines and polygons to use.
 
http://www.dgis.se
 
Cheers
 
Niklas Grytting
DGIS Software
Tel: +46 (0) 70 373 97 98
Fax: +46 (0) 8 514 410 19
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RE: MI Importing from Mapguide to Mapinfo/MapX.

2000-08-25 Thread Martin, Christopher (WSA Telford)

The word from the MapGuide community is in agreement:

Convert to SDL using the SDF Loader, then import into MI using FME...

-Original Message-
From: climber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 August 2000 00:33
To: Martin, Christopher (WSA Telford)
Cc: 'Pablo Francisco Sparta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MI Importing from Mapguide to Mapinfo/MapX.


You should check out Vancouver, Canada's, Safe Software, and their
Translators: FME Professional Suite, or FME Professional ESRI Suite.
It's
worth the money considering the power to translate geospatial
information.
Both MapInfo and ESRI use a subset of FME for their products
translators.
http://www.safe.com/

I can attest to FME Professional Suite for MapInfo and it's ability to
correctly translate CARIS NTX files.  Provided the data is exported
properly
from CARIS.

Stan Johnston
Geologist

"Martin, Christopher (WSA Telford)" wrote:

> I'm not aware of a more direct route (but that doesn't mean to say
there
> isn't one!), but you can use the SDF COM Toolkit to manipulate (ie.
> read) your SDF's. If another lister can provide you with the necessary
> information to create TABs etc..
>
> [The mapguide SDF loader can also create SDLs - ASCII-versions of
SDFs]
>
> CJM
> -Original Message-
> From: Pablo Francisco Sparta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 24 August 2000 15:11
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: MI Importing from Mapguide to Mapinfo/MapX.
>
> How can I import from Mapguide format (SDF) to Mapinfo/MapX formats
> (TAB)?
> Thank you,
> Pablo Sparta.
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RE: MI exporting maps to word

2000-08-25 Thread Justusson Christer

Hi!

The fastest way which gives least problems I've found to be like this.
Have the map window active, press Ctrl+C to copy it. 
Change to Word and take Paste special and choose Image (I hope thats what it
is called in the English version) instead of MapInfo Mapobject.
Paste special gives an image that is easier to move around in the document.
It's great for day to day work instructions.
Sorry to say it doesn't work on layout window there's the only way I've
found to save window as wmf or print to file.

Have a nice weekend
Regards Christer

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Subject: MI exporting maps to word


hi

we are exporting map windows (mapinfo professional 6) to word (save window
as...file format..insert picture) with poor results.  i searched the archive
and saw some stuff suggesting this process back in the v.4 days.  is this as
good as it gets? 

thanks


Bill Holden
Senior Planner I
*   Demographics
*   Statistical Analysis
*   Planning Information

Planning Research and Information Resource Centre
City Planning Branch
Community Services Department
http://www.city.saskatoon.sk.ca/departments/planning/
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Re: MI thematic mapping problem- solutions

2000-08-25 Thread Steven_Kalma

Thanks to those who offered solutions. It works fine now.

solution 1:
Run Command "Create Ranges From water_levels With "+col_name+" Use ""Equal
Count"" Number 4 Round 0.1 Into Variable GW_ranges"

solution 2:
dim a as atring
a=" Create Ranges From  water_levels  With "+col_name+" Use """Equal
Count""" Number 4 Round 0.1 Into Variable GW_ranges"
run command a

solution 3:
Dim tMyAliasColName As Alias
Dim col_name As String
tMyAliasColName = col_name
Create Ranges
>From water_levels
With tMyAliasColName Use "Equal Count"
Number 4
Round 0.1
Into Variable GW_ranges


Steven Kalma
URS/Dames & Moore
The Netherlands
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Hi,
I am having some difficulties with a thematic mapping task with MapBasic.
Maybe someone out there in MapInfo land can help me?

I have an application in which I want to create a thematic map using 4
equal count ranges based on information from a given table (called "
water_levels"). The problem is that the column in the "water_levels" table
on which the thematic map is going to be created is not always the same.
The column name is stored in the string variable "col_name" and is in the
form "col4" etc.

The code that is causing problems is:

Create Ranges
>From water_levels
With col_name
Use "Equal Count"
Number 4
Round 0.1
Into Variable GW_ranges

At run time this results in an error of the form "Invalid variable type".
If I replace the variable "col_name" in the above code with col4 everything
goes fine, the only problem being that it is not always col4 which I want
to shade!

Anyone able to give me some advice?

Steven Kalma
URS/Dames & Moore
The Netherlands
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MI: column info

2000-08-25 Thread Ken Goraya
Title: MI: column info





Hi list !
I know it is very simple question, but please help. How can I get information of a particular column from a selected record in the text format using mapbasic window.?

TIA,
Ken