Fw: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question

2000-09-01 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.

Dennis:

Well, occasionally there are some extremely large and/or 
frequently updated datasets where it would be useful to
be able to map Shape directly..maybe in the MB to open
you could specify the projection (e.g. always NAD '83)
so it wouldn't have to be Interactive.. I realize you can
batch imut.exe but it's not suitable for files that take 1.5
hours to convert..

I don't know.. just a thought. MI Pro 6.5? 

Eric


- Original Message - 
From: "Waardenburg, Dennis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question


 Eric,
 
 I've never heard of any plans to incorporate this into MI.  But if they did,
 it wouldn't really be much different than the import process is now.  You'd
 still have to explicitly describe the projection/coordsys before the shape
 file could be read, and that's all you really have to do now when using the
 Univeral Translator.
 
 Once ESRI gets their act together and incorporates coordsys info into their
 files, I expect that we'll see native read capabilities in MI.
 
 Dennis
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.
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  Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 9:31 AM
  To: Waardenburg, Dennis
  Subject: Re: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question
  
  I am so excited..I did not know MI had implemented this...any idea
  if/when will they add this to MI Pro? 
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Waardenburg, Dennis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 7:38 AM
  Subject: RE: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question
  
  
   Richard,
   
   The major drawbacks you describe are the result of shortcomings native
  to
   Shape files, not MapX.  Shapefiles contain neither the
  projection/coordinate
   system nor the object style info for the layer, as Mapinfo TABs do.
  MapX
   can't read information that isn't there, so it's necessary for the coder
  to
   provide it.
   
   Dennis Waardenburg
   GIS Specialist
   The Environmental Company, Inc.
   
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Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 5:32 AM
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Subject: RE: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question

Dave,

MapX 4.x can read  display native ESRI shape files using the
'Map.Layers.Add LayerInfoObject' method.  There is a major drawback
  though
-
you have to know the projection of the data and specify that in the
'LayerInfoObject' - MapX does not seem to be able to get the
  projection
from
the shape file itself.  MapX also renders the goemetry in the MapX
  default
styles.

Richard Burkmar.

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Subject: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question




Does anybody out there know of any information regarding the reading
  and
editing
of ESRI Shapefiles using the MapX language?

Cheers

Dave Williams
Montgomery Watson


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Re: MI and Manifold

2000-08-24 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.

umm i am interested but have not had the experience with it
to give a definitive answer. 

1.) 4.5 is NOT going to replace MI by any means.. for one 
the labeling is always horizontal, in other words you cannot
print a usable street map.

2.) also, I understand trying to do a consistent layout for paper 
output exactly sucks (just hearsay)

3.) yet, I heard one lister refer to it as a pocket arc/info in the
sense that it has plenty of alghorithms---what they call solvers,
and built-in tools to accomplish some nice analysis...also it
has perfect import/export capability so you can use it to 
complement MI. (I'm sure you can do all this analysis in MB,
just have to get familiar with Fetch First/Next and the like..our
firm has dozens of such scripts but not always so immediately
reusable.. so in that sense learning Manifold's interface and 
quirks for doing analysis may save time compared to baking 
your own)

4.) I mentioned R4.5... they have a R5.0 slated for sometime
perhaps this year would be cool that might be worth evaluating
(note due to their funky promotional pricing I think you're still
better off buying R4.5 and then upgrading) Anyway, I'm 
definitely going to see if R5 has the goods and may invest
developing real skills in it... if nothing else for them, if their 
marketing interests users like me and if 1/3 of us cough up the
couple/few hundred bucks--pennies compared to more seats of
AV or MI--they might have the dough to pay their programmers..

just an off-the-cuff response, hope it hits the mark.. please
correct me and elaborate where I am wrong other listers...

Eric

Note: this sort of disturbs me (and still I like it) that we 
discuss other GIS's and any topic actually on this MI-list...
I just know arcview-l is moderated--they've turned down
a few of my innocuous queries about intl data--but to add
to the discussion regarding MI's marketing (I noticed 
several posts regarding their education sector efforts) couldn't
MI pony up to allow BT or anyone to sift through stuff? at 
least we would not be a prime deliver of KAK...(pun 
intended)



- Original Message - 
From: "John Maguire" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 6:12 PM
Subject: MI and Manifold


 
 Dear all,
 I recently discovered the web site for "Manifold GIS"
 http://www.manifold.net/index.html.
 Is it as good as they say?
 Has anyone out there had experience using both MI and Manifold, how do they
 compare?
 I'm trying to talk my boss into investing but he is loath to introduce another
 GIS system to the office.
 Is it worth getting to do some of the functions only MapInfo add-ons can perform
 at a considerable extra expense?
 
 Any comments would be appreciated.
 TIA
 
 John
 
 
 
 
 John Maguire
 Cartographer QNT
 
 GPO Box 1010
 Brisbane QLD 4001, Australia
 
 Phone: +61 7 3228 6812
 Fax:   +61 7 3228 6663
 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


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Re: MI using workspaces across a W98 peer to peer network

2000-08-23 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.

Natalie, Tim:

You can just open the workspace with a text editor like 
notepad and change the drive letter (and path if necessary) in 
the open statements..

The best solutions I came across when we were doing p2p 
is to place a subst statement in the autoexec on whatever 
computer is hosting the files and pick a standard drive letter.

The subst makes it basically map a local drive or folder to a
new drive letter, so for instance my C:\Work directory also
appears as the L:\ drive. (check "subst /?") I think you would
go: "subst L: C:\Work"

Then if I set a share on C:\Work and people map that as L:\,
we can share workspaces without a hitch... (I just have to 
remember not to click at c:\work when I want to do stuff, I
need to go to the L:\ drive.)

I think at one point, my computer was the L:\ drive, my 
neighbor's was the W:\ drive, and there was also an S:\
drive on someone else' computer...something like that.

Anyway, just a precaution about peer-to-peer, there are
viruses which will scan the network for unprotected shares,
grab saved and cached passworks from the registry and
hunt for Windows system folders to infect, so try to avoid
sharing anything above your windows folder like C:\  ;)

hope this is of some assistance, let me know if I can clarify 
anything,
Eric

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Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: MI using workspaces across a W98 peer to peer network


 PLEASE pass on any info.
 We've been struggling with the same problem for some time now.
 
 TIA
 Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Warman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:57 PM
 To: Mapinfo-L
 Subject: MI using workspaces across a W98 peer to peer network
 
 
 Listers,
 
 Has anyone run into the problem of sharing workspaces that were created on
 one machine, across a W98 peer-to-peer network? The problem is that all the
 file paths in the workspaces start with C:\, and of course that's not how
 the other machines on the network see my hard drive.
 
 I sure someone has dealt with this before.
 
 Cheers,
 
 _
 Tim Warman
 Geologist  GIS Specialist
 Richard C. Slade  Associates
 North Hollywood, CA
 (818) 506-0418


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Fw: MI 6.0 A plea to lock down the tool bars

2000-08-18 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.

I think I am not clear on the complaint or how save as default 
is the solution.

when you're working with the buttons a lot occasionally
you hit in the 'edge' area instead of right on the buttonpad
and swish it swaps positions with something else or floats
away...

I am starting to get the hang of the mouse now with you know
like 15 years practice but I still manage to do this at least
once a month.

is there a GlueAll API? maybe a function in WinBatch

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Thoen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "MapInfo-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: MI 6.0 A plea to lock down the tool bars


 Arrange the buttonpads in the normal way and then using a 1/4"
 Kluge, bore out two holes on either end of the buttonpads. Apply
 some Gate's GlueAll to the back of the buttonpad, wait until it's
 tacky (in Windows, things become tacky almost immediately), and
 press buttonpad firmly in place. Then secure with a pair hardened
 hacker bolts, and torque until the heads snap off (this insures that
 nobody else will ever mess with your settings). 
 
 Or you could just anchor them in any position, docked, floating ir
 hidden, with Options/Toolbars and check the "Save as default"
 checkbox.
 
 Also feel free to contact your vendor and raise hell any time.
 That's what vendors are for! ;-)
 
 - Bill Thoen
 
 GISnet, 1401 Walnut St., Suite C, Boulder, CO  80302
 tel: 303-786-9961, fax: 303-443-4856
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ctmap.com/gisnet
 
 
 David Reid wrote:
  
  I had hoped that one of the many bugs an upgrade would fix, would be the
  ability for the user to nail down those blasted, floatable toolbars!
  
  PLEASE!!!   Has anyone found a fix for this???
  
  David Reid
  GIS/Database Mngr
  Colbert County E-9-1-1
  Colbert County, Alabama
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Fw: MI Is MapInfo going to die?

2000-08-16 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.

Zoran, Alex:

I'm sure the Manifold marketing guy would love to
key in here haha..

I think if they could update the interface to look like
Office 2000 (---especially the crazy buttonpads!)
that would go a long way to allay such comments like 
this, even though it's really just window dressing
(excuse the pun) but I don't know how hard that is,
maybe they just need to hire a couple decent windows
programmers who could knock that out in a few weeks.
6.0.1 patch? just a suggestion...

I love MapInfo Pro, so flexible and handy for GIS work,
my favorite work tool... but have to admit I am curious
about ESRI's vapor announcements regarding the new
ArcView and wonder in darker moments if MapInfo is
actually more focused on landing more enterprise clients 
like Sprint.

Eric Frost
HR and Associates, Inc.
- Original Message - 
From: "Markovic, Zoran" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'ITSSA-Gerencia'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: MI Is MapInfo going to die?


 I agree with you Alex.
 
 But, MapInfo is only following the product strategy of all
 other software companies - the common practice in the
 industry.
 
 This strategy is to keep the workhorse product, such as
 MapInfo Pro, as a bait - the first product that you buy.  Then,
 they sell you all additional features as add-ons, extras
 and additional products.
 
 This is why MapInfo Pro has "not advanced much".  But,
 the range of add-ons is getting bigger and better (and more
 costly).
 
 Also, MapInfo is a fairly clean and stable software product,
 comparable with the best practice of the software industry,
 arguably better than MS-Office.
 
 I am pritty sure that MapInfo will have version 7 and 8 etc
 but those will not have major improvements either
 (compatibility with Oracle and 3D rendering were the only
 two real improvements over the last couple of years).
 
 Just keep budgeting for the very expensive add-ons if you
 want to do any useful GIS work.
 
 Zoran Markovic
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ITSSA-Gerencia [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2000 8:13
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: MI Is MapInfo going to dead ?
  
  Is Mapinfo and Mapbasic going to dead ??
  Anyone knows if will be a Mapinfo 7.0, 8.0 etc ..
  And MapBasic ?
  Will exist MapInfo and Mapbasic in 5 years ?
  I saw the improvements made in the last 3 releases are very poor at least
  for my expectant.
  Are the list agree with me ?
   
  regards,
  Alex
 
 
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MI LAYER_INFO_NAME and ObjectInfo

2000-08-14 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.


What is wrong with this code:

Include "MapBasic.Def"

Dim szLayerName As String
szLayerName = LayerInfo(FrontWindow(), 1, LAYER_INFO_NAME)

Fetch First From szLayerName

Dim obj_type As Integer
obj_type = ObjectInfo(szLayerName.obj, OBJ_INFO_TYPE) 

I have tried all sorts of work-arounds like assigning the object to an
object variable and Run Command but have not hit on the solution.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: MI LAYER_INFO_NAME and ObjectInfo

2000-08-14 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.

Yannick Leduc,

That works perfectly...thanks for such a fast
response!

Eric
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From: "Leduc, Yannick" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: MI LAYER_INFO_NAME and ObjectInfo


Hi Eric,

try this:

Include "MapBasic.Def"

Dim szLayerName As String
szLayerName = LayerInfo(FrontWindow(), 1, LAYER_INFO_NAME)

Fetch First From szLayerName

Dim obj_type As Integer
Dim objt As object
dim Alias_obj As Alias

alias_obj = szLayerName+".obj"
objt = alias_obj
obj_type = ObjectInfo(objt, OBJ_INFO_TYPE)

When I use a Fetch, I define an alias that will point the object, and then,
I put the object in a variable. It works. I hope it will do the same for
you.

Good luck

Yannick Leduc


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What is wrong with this code:

Include "MapBasic.Def"

Dim szLayerName As String
szLayerName = LayerInfo(FrontWindow(), 1, LAYER_INFO_NAME)

Fetch First From szLayerName

Dim obj_type As Integer
obj_type = ObjectInfo(szLayerName.obj, OBJ_INFO_TYPE)

I have tried all sorts of work-arounds like assigning the object to an
object variable and Run Command but have not hit on the solution.

Thanks in advance!

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MI SUM: Mapping Out U.S. Economic Growth and Employment Data by County

2000-06-14 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



I was looking for econ growth and employment data 
by 
county for 
the US a last week for a mapping project and 

said I'd summarize... 

+The employment data from the Bureau of Labor 
Statistics
is wonderful! 

You can download 
about 240 MB of text files that have the 
data for EVERY month 
going back more than 10 years for 
several levels of 
geography including county. This is at:
http://stats.bls.gov/lauhome.htm
go to FTP | Local 
Area Unemployment Statistics.

+The Bureau of Economic Analysis has data 
at:
http://www.bea.doc.gov

They have Gross State Product and income data 
by
county for 1977 to 1997 (1998 #'s to be released 
later
this year). You could probably use the Gross 
State
Product and fudge it into a Gross County 
Product
using the income data...(maybe even use the 
census
state pop projections to extend the 
data...census.gov)

So far everything's free.

Another source with all this data as well as many 
other
variables at the county level can also be purchased 
from
a research outfit at http://www.rfa.com ... go to Products 
|
Forecast Services | RFA Forecast Data Buffet | 
Counties.
I think their salesperson said theycompile 
this quarterly.

The RFA stuff is expensive but may be a bargain 
depending
on your needs.

Hope this is of use to someone, sorry it 
isoff-topic on the 
MapInfo list...(though MapInfo does have 
proportionately 

more business users ?) I'll look for a business 
geographics
list.







MI economic data

2000-06-07 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



Hi:

Does anyone know where I can get good economic 
growth
and employment data at the county 
level?

Does a government agency disseminate 
this?

Thanks
Eric



Fw: MI economic data

2000-06-07 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



Hola Mappers,

At a fine suggestion (see below), I've decided to 
re-post my 
query:

I am looking for U.S. economic data by county for 
retail 
purposesin particular fast food. Something like 
Gross
County Product like the Gross State or Gross 
Domestic
Product would be ideal, or whatever is the most 
decent
proxy for that...perhaps income? perhaps 
employment?

Any suggestions are welcome...IWILL summarize 
( in the
arcview-l traditionmy last query regarding 
units of 
measurement in Puerto Rico generated literally 
dozens 
of posts to the list ) so just send your responses 
to me 
please, i'll summarize.

Eric

P.S. Be assured this is the moreinteresting 
list.. :) Hi Bill

- Original Message - 
From: Steve 
Smith 
To: Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc. 

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: MI economic data
EricMapInfo-L is an international user 
group. You need to be a little morespecificwhen you ask for 
data. You should probably include a brief summary ofwhat thedata 
is to be used for and the coverage you require so that you have 
abetterchance of acquiring useful data.Best of 
luckSteve"Eric Frost / HR and Associates, 
Inc." [EMAIL PROTECTED]on08/06/2000 
07:42:48To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: 
(bcc: Steve Smith/Staff/ABS)Subject: MI 
economic dataHi:Does anyone know where I can get 
good economic growthand employment data at the county level?Does a 
government agency disseminate 
this?ThanksEric


MI US Virgin Islands and Jamaica

2000-05-26 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



Hi Mappers:

I am looking for streets and demographics 
for
the US Virgin Islands and Jamaica.

Geoscape.com lists detailed streets for 
Jamaica.

Does the US Census operate in the Virgin 
Islands?
(census.gov is innacessible at the 
moment.)

I will summarize.. 

Thanks,
Eric



MI miles or kilometers

2000-05-22 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



quick question... does Puerto Rico always use KM? I 
have
addresses with KM markers so I assume it is 
kilometers?

then for reference: Is the U.S. the only country 
using miles?
How about the British? Hawaii must be 
miles?

Thanks!
Eric





MI batch generation

2000-05-02 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



Hi GIS-ers:

I'm trying to do a command-line conversion with the 
Universal Translator, it
seems to work fine like this:

L:\HRAGiS\Tools\imut generate Shape MapInfo 
m:\streets\shape street_convert.fmeL:\HRAGIS\Tools\imut street_convert.fme 
--SourceDataset m:\streets\shape --DestDataset m:\streets\mitab

Except! How do I specify a coordinate system?? It 
comes in as Non-Earth and I
need to specify Lat/Lon NAD 83...

Or, is there a better tool to do this?

Thanks a bunch in advance! I will 
summarize.

Eric




MI The Islands

2000-04-25 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



Mappers:

I am working on a GIS for a major client and 
they
are curious about detailed street and 
demographic
data for the French Antilles, Jamaica, 
Trinidad,
Bahamas, etc.

Can anyone point me in the right 
direction?

Thanks in advance! I will summarize.

Eric



MI Voronoi Polygons

2000-04-03 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



Hi Folks:

I'm sure I used to have a tool that would create 
voronoi polygons
but I seem to have misplaced it!

As I remember, it was very slow, but gave you an 
option to put
in a maximum radius---so that a store with no other 
store within
a few miles could just appear as a circle with 2 
mile radius for
instance...

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Eric



MI LARGE # of Shape Files to Tab

2000-03-28 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



Hi:

I have about 3140 shape files I would like 
to
convert to tab..the Universal Tranlator 
GUI
does not allow me to choose this many 
files..

Anyone have experience converting tons 
of
shape to tab? What's the best way to 
go?

When I tried doing this at the command 
line
with imut.exe it generates a 30 MB fme file:
L:\HRAGiS\Tools\UT\imut generate Shape MapInfo 
r:\mydata\shape myfme.fme


this next step takes about 12 hours to read the 
fme
fileand then doesn't get very far doing the actual 
conversion beforereporting "system low on resources" 
and stopping:

L:\HRAGIS\Tools\UT\imut myfme.fme --SourceDataset 
r:\mydata\shape --DestDataset r:\mydata\mitab

Anyone have any ideas on how to make this 
work?

Should I generate a huge batch file with these 
two
imut lines and convert each file 
separately?

Thanks!

Eric Frost
HR and Associates, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




MI SDE and MapInfo

2000-03-08 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



Hello Mappers!

We need to integrate very closely with one of 
our
main client's SDE server. Of course we have 
started
using ArcView more lately to connect to it but we 
are 
a MapInfoshop.. blah blah blah enough history.

What is the state of SDE and MapInfo 
integration?
What can be accomplished, automated in an 
end-user
application, etc? Anythingnew on the horizon?

Also, what third-party companies have offerings 
in
this area?

All insights appreciated! I will 
summarize.

Eric Frost
HR and Associates, Inc.


MI annoying feature of Windows 2K Pro?

2000-03-02 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



Dear Mappers:

With Windows2K Pro and MapInfo 6.0 beta, when I 
have
a MapInfo running and double-click on a table or a 
workspace
in Explorer, 
it loads it into the currently running MapInfo rather 
than starting a new 
instance.

Is this a "feature" of Windows 2K or MapInfo 6.0 
beta? How 
can I turn off this 
"feature"?

Thanks for any help or insights in 
advance!

Eric Frost




Fw: MI annoying feature of Windows 2K Pro?

2000-03-02 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.



Mappers:

Steve Wallace suggested I turn off DDE 
under
Tool | Folder Options | File Options.. this 
worked
perfectly.

I tried retaining the original entry (as an 
option
in the context menu) but Win2K Pro seems to 
have trouble setting the defaultassociation.. 
oh well. Anyway, just turning off DDE handles 
it.

Thanks 
Eric

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc. 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: MI annoying feature of Windows 2K Pro?

Dear Mappers:

With Windows2K Pro and MapInfo 6.0 beta, when I 
have
a MapInfo running and double-click on a table or a 
workspace
in Explorer, 
it loads it into the currently running MapInfo rather 
than starting a new 
instance.

Is this a "feature" of Windows 2K or MapInfo 6.0 
beta? How 
can I turn off this 
"feature"?

Thanks for any help or insights in 
advance!

Eric Frost