RE: MI-L save window print resolution
MapInfo doesn't support 16-colour RLE (run-length encoded) bitmaps (BMP). 256-colour RLE bitmaps work fine. I've got approx. 1-million map tiles that are in this format - that's gonna take a whole lotta processing ;) -Original Message- From: Uffe Kousgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 September 2005 18:33 To: Mapinfo-L Subject: Re: MI-L save window print resolution MapInfo 8.0 supports both GIF and TIFF-CMYK as output formats. I'm not sure how to achieve EPS, but perhaps some of the PDF printer drivers can. Regards Uffe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mapinfo-L mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:40 PM Subject: MI-L Réf. : Re: MI-L Réf. : MI-L save window print resolution Thanks for putting things more clearly than I did.. BTW, GIF isn't always lossless. It can do nasty things to your colors if you chose a low number of colors (less than there are in your maps). But it compress very well if you have few colors. Sometimes I export large Tiffs and convert them to GIF in Photoshop. Anyway, you can't export directly from MIP, as was requested by the person who asked the question. Also to be more precise : png or tif is the way to go if you have to stay in raster mode. But if you have much details and fine lines in your maps, the vector format is always much better. It's really a pitty that MapInfo doesn't allow exportation in eps mode.. I wonder why it is so ? because MIP don't want to be a fee to Adobe, or whoever invented that postscript format ? or may be it is because that would imply the translation from rgb values in cmyk values and the implementation of a lot of new code ? who knows.. any way, it's a pain to be left with only the wmf format, because in the press world they don't like window things.. MIP should also implement CMYK palettes. With RGB printing to real world press print is a nightmare. Christiane Roh Uffe Kousgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01.09.2005 18:20 Pour : Mapinfo-L mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Objet : Re: MI-L Réf. : MI-L save window print resolution Hi Christiane, Please let me add a few comments on your raster formats. There are 3 kinds of bitmap formats: Uncompressed: TIF, BMP, PSD Compressed, loss-less: PNG, TIF, GIF Compressed, with loss: JPG Main comment is PNG is not a compromise between size and quality, since quality is as good as in the uncompressed formats. Secondly: TIF exists both in compressed and uncompressed versions (both loss-less). That is called TIFF LZW in MapInfo. But I agree, when you say PNG is the way to go :-) Regards Uffe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:29 PM Subject: MI-L Réf. : MI-L save window print resolution Hi, I encountered the same kind of problems one year ago while we prepared our atlas for print. When you chose to export your windows, there are several types of format which you can chose. a) Raster format export your maps as if they were photographs. That could create huge files depending on your resolution and map dimension. Nowaday printers takes up to 1200dpi if they are good printers. But 600 dpi shold be good enough.. With raster format, things could go wrong in different ways; one important thing lies with PageMaker too : are you sure that you have chosen the right options in dealing with the picture ? Sometimes it can compress pictures which isn't a good idea. There are two kinds of raster formats : the uncompressed ones : *.tif, *.bmp, *.psd; the first is the most frequently used; the second is a Microsoft format and the last is a Photoshop format. Of the three, the tif format is probably the most frequently used. Among the compressed files format, you have the *.jpg and the *.png. The frequently encountered jpg format, is a compressed format which creates bad artifacts with limits and could blurr your maps; it's made for photographic images, not for charts or maps which should keep clean borders. The *png format is also compressed but of better quality. It's the way to go if you want a good compromise between size and quality. If space isn't a criteria, then the Tif format is better. As far as compressed format goes, it would be better to have *.Gif format rather than *.jpg. The former is able to keep clean borders, while the other isn't. - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17717 __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email
RE: MI-L Louisiana
Apologies for sounding dumb, but what is 'Federal GIST within ROSS'? I'm from the UK, so never heard of it. -Original Message- From: George Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 September 2005 19:26 To: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MI-L Louisiana Mr. VanDruten, I have waited to comment on your note, below, until I could comment in civil terms and make any points in a civil and ordered manner. Two individuals have asked what they could do to assist in a continuing natural disaster, in effect you told them not to bother, that the federal government would handle it and that their platform of choice was not of any use anyway. Perhaps you missed the lessons in grade school, for want of a horseshoe the kingdom was lost .I say to anyone who wants to see if they can help, you GO! Do your best and see how you can help. I would like to assist if there is any way to do so also. Mr VanDruten, you do not know how they can assist, of if whatever job they do will come up with a way to save several or hundreds of lives, nesessity is the mother of invention. I congratulate you on being a certified as a Federal GIST within ROSS, it is certainly an accomplishment. When it comes to being in the right place at the right time and being able to assist someone in need, it doesn't mean squat. These two gentelmen can do whatever analysis they come up with and can hand over their work to FEMA or whoever else takes over so there will be something to start with. I know there are protocols and standards to observe, but helping out in an emergency means you do what you can with what you have where you are at. Perhaps we might look at this differently, how can we as a MapInfo community support the recovery effort. Can we work as a group on projects where there is no coverage, but a need? Is there something we can lend our talents to that might make a difference to the folks who have been so hard hit? We are a community who have professional talents that we can employ to help those who have lost most, if not all, of what they have. Let us not let wet blankets like Mr. VanDruten dampen our instincts to assist where we can to help others. Let's see what we can do. I'm contacting MSNBC to see what small town there are that need help and don't have any resources. It's a long shot, but it's something. George --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Just some FYI information. Although there may be a need right now, this type of info is probably being handled on the Federal Gov't end by the Incident Management Teams that are down their to provide relief. I myself am a federal GIST, recognized within the resource ordering system as one. You would have to be a GIST within ROSS and be made available to help. Even if you have years of experience, you can't just me made a GIST because there are protocols for data collection, naming conventions, etc. that are taught to GIST's. There was a huge need for GIS in the Columbia Space Shuttle response but I am not sure how much out of house personnel was used. That incident was managed in the same way the Katrina response is now. Also be aware that the federal standard for these type incidents is ArcGIS. I am not saying that there no chance your services might or can be used, just making the point of what is probably going on. On a side note, my wife is down there with a federal response team and they have no need for GIS services on their team at this time. Brian Van Druten (Embedded image moved to file: pic00491.jpg) Bagwell, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] alaccess.net To Eric Gagnon 08/31/2005 09:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mapinfo AMList MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com cc Subject RE: MI-L Louisiana
MI-L MapInfo-L Reminder
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MI-L Selecting my map window
Hello again, Dear List Hopefully this will be a quickie. I could spend all day searching through Help I want to disappear a particular layer, csrZonesInRoute, which I do by the following code: --- lnWindowID = FrontWindow() lnNoLayers = MapperInfo( lnWindowID, MAPPER_INFO_LAYERS) I = 1 Do while I = lnNoLayers If LayerInfo( lnWindowID, I, LAYER_INFO_NAME) = csrZonesInRoute then Remove Map Layer csrZonesInRoute I = lnNoLayers + 1 ' to get out of the loop Else I = I + 1 End If Loop Trouble is this layer has a legend window associated with it (I know the Legend window ID, BTW) So, if the Legend window is uppermost, the line: lnNoLayers = MapperInfo( lnWindowID, MAPPER_INFO_LAYERS) returns an error Expecting mapper window - obviously. So what I want to do is first to ensure that the mapper window is to the fore, i.e. selected front window. How do I do this? 'ppreciate it Terry McDonnell
MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina
To the list, Based on the emails I have been getting berating me, I guess some of you have interpreted my email in the wrong light. In no way was I trying to tell you that your help in unwanted, all I was trying to do was describe the process and the difficulties associated with it when working with federal teams in the incident management process. I HOPE ALL OF YOU FIND YOUR OWN WAY TO HELP BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE NEED IT! Based on the responses I have received, I may leave this list. It is a shame when you try to tell someone truthful info that you get bashed for it! I have gained a lot from this list as to my user skills but right now I don't know if the trade off is worth it! Sincerely, Brian Van Druten (Embedded image moved to file: pic17421.jpg) - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17728
RE: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina
Brain, don't leave the list. You are just telling the truth. Nothing is wrong with you. Be strong, and I am sure we are here for help if the help is needed. Jiye Zhang NYC DEP DWQC Field Operation (718) 595-6313 (718) 595-6399 (fax) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:48 AM To: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina To the list, Based on the emails I have been getting berating me, I guess some of you have interpreted my email in the wrong light. In no way was I trying to tell you that your help in unwanted, all I was trying to do was describe the process and the difficulties associated with it when working with federal teams in the incident management process. I HOPE ALL OF YOU FIND YOUR OWN WAY TO HELP BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE NEED IT! Based on the responses I have received, I may leave this list. It is a shame when you try to tell someone truthful info that you get bashed for it! I have gained a lot from this list as to my user skills but right now I don't know if the trade off is worth it! Sincerely, Brian Van Druten (Embedded image moved to file: pic17421.jpg) - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17729
Re: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina
Brian, Don't worry about the abuse...most of it originates from sources completely unrelated to your email although the email brought it to the surface. We're all guilty of it at some point or another. You've probably learned a lot from this list and the list has probably learned a lot from you...I'm based in the UK and have extremely strong feelings about the disaster in New Orleans and I'm not involved or know anyone involved...just imagine how wound up others might be...At least they lost it at your email and not at a colleague/friend...yelling at a computer screen is one of my favorite stress-relievers. Your email carries weight, and once people calm down they see it for what it is, not what they think it is. Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17731
MI-L GIS Support
Hello everyone, I think we should put a list togethter, and have avaiable those willing to help. With a short description of qualifications: As an example, Myron Messak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Past Fire Chief NYS Certified Haz. Mat. Tech. NYS Certified Code Enforcement Officer 30 years Construction experience. NYS certified EMT. Profiecent in MapInfo and ArcView 3.3 Myron Messak [EMAIL PROTECTED] - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17732
Re: MI-L GIS Support
As Brian Van Druten told us originally, the authorities are only seeking GIS volunteers with strong ArcGIS 9 experience: http://www10.giscafe.com/nbc/articles/view_article.php?section=CorpNewsarticleid=202951 Regards Uffe - Original Message - From: Myron Messak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: MI-L GIS Support Hello everyone, I think we should put a list togethter, and have avaiable those willing to help. With a short description of qualifications: As an example, Myron Messak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Past Fire Chief NYS Certified Haz. Mat. Tech. NYS Certified Code Enforcement Officer 30 years Construction experience. NYS certified EMT. Profiecent in MapInfo and ArcView 3.3 Myron Messak [EMAIL PROTECTED] - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17733
Re: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina
Stay cool, folks. Flaming people for telling you something you don't want to hear isn't helping and is way out of line. Just because you want to jump in and help doesn't mean you will be helpful. In an emergency situation, the people who are *trained* to respond need to focus on their job and you can't expect that they've got time to train and support you as fast as you wish. Help needs to be available, but it also needs to be coordinated. Otherwise, you can easily become part of the problem. On the other hand, there's always something you can do. You could organize a web site to act as a clearing house to list poeple and expertise in the MapInfo community who are able and willing to help and get word of that to the emergency response organizations. At least then they have a way to know what resourses they can draw on. BTW, the request for help from GISCorps I posted yesterday seems to be take care of. See the following that came in via the GISCO list this morning: -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GISCorps Alert (fwd) Dear Volunteer, We would like to inform you that all 20 positions are filled at this time and the deployed volunteers are either on their way to Jackson or will arrive there in within the next day. The response to our alert has been extraordinary and we have added 260 new volunteers to our database since yesterday(it's over 530 now)! We are now adding the names of qualified volunteers to a wait list. Should any of the selected volunteers end up not going or if we are asked to provide more volunteers to other organizations, we will take your application into consideration. Thanks for your generosity and willingness to help out in these difficult times. Warm Regards, Shoreh Elhami, GISCorps Chair _www.giscorps.org_ (http://www.giscorps.org/) - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17734
MI-L Interesting article on maps and Louisiana on BBC website: Net offers map help after the flood
All, Here is a new insight on the help maps could provide in case of an emergency. I found it quite interesting. Experts can come from unexpected places! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4208070.stm Best regards Laure Dessemontet-Berthoud Laure Dessemontet-Berthoud - Géomaticienne/statisticienne Etat de Vaud - Dép. de la Formation et la Jeunesse ? DFJ Direction générale de l'enseignement obligatoire - DGEO - DOP Rue de la Barre 8 , CH - 1014 Lausanne Tél: +41(0)21 316 31 63 Tél: +41(0)21 316 32 19 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.dfj.vd.ch
MI-L float value to csv
Hi All, I found that when print or write a float value to a csv file, the total number of digit will always be 8 if there is any decimal digits. So when print a value of -123.123456 to a csv file, the result will just be -123.123. This will lead to an accuracy loss. Any idea? My test code is as follow: Open File c:\test.csv For output As #1 dim x as float x = -123.1234567 'and the result is: print #1, str$(x) '-123.123 print #1, x '-123.123 Write #1, str$(x) '-123.123 Write #1, x '-123.123 Close File #1 Thanks in advance, David Hou
MI-L Re: your mail
You've got a point, for sure. I just know from experience that free help isn't always helpful if they aren't experienced in what to do. You don't need people working at cross purposes. I guess it's a matter of degree. When people are dying RIGHT NOW, you can always use help becuase those problems are obvious. But when you're trying to do regional search, rescue and evacuation with limited resources you need some coordination and commnication. Trouble is, with an emergency, there's always an element of confusion, not unlike the fog of war and if you are dealing with it, you really want the help to be in the right place and doing the right thing. And for sure, sometimes the authorities can't do the job right either... or as in this case, fast enough. So you have to do what you feel you have to do. There's plenty of time later to argue over whether it was wise or not. - Bill On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Bagwell, Ross wrote: I'd rather have 100 people jump and volunteer who are unqualified than have 99 sit there watching going wow, that sucks. This isn't intended to be a political thread, but I think we've caught FEMA with their pants down. Really. Look around the immediate area... Fort Polk is only 4 hours away, with an entire Brigade of the 10th Mountain readily available. Warehouses of water and MREs. Shut down training and get the help where it is needed... locally. Eglin AFB is only a days drive away, Fort Hood is only a days drive away, and then there are the bases that are only 2 days drive away... with warehouses full of MREs, water... abundant labor and vehicles to mobilize and send there. What about giving the entire region the week off of school and sending abudant numbers of school buses there to get those people out... spread them around in tent cities (that can be assembled VERY quickly) and then work on getting the place fixed, rather than spinning your wheels with having to secure the place. Seems like the people were just dumped off there and suddenly after a day or two they noticed that there aren't enough supplies to take care of them (duh). With all of the near misses in the past, were the various government groups (local and otherwise) not foreseeing such an event? Will this open up their eyes as to the reality of WHEN (not IF) it will happen again in the future? We can strategically place warehouses with food and water to aid in the annual disasters that occur... hurricane, tornado, flood or other. The world watches as we portray the lack of help and comraderie in our press - instead, we have people worrying about breaking in to the local Walmart so they can pick up a free flat screen TV. No wonder why the US has the reputation overseas. Just my .02 (adjusted for inflation and price gouging) -Original Message- From: Bill Thoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:13 AM To: MapInfo-L Subject: Re: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina Stay cool, folks. Flaming people for telling you something you don't want to hear isn't helping and is way out of line. Just because you want to jump in and help doesn't mean you will be helpful. In an emergency situation, the people who are *trained* to respond need to focus on their job and you can't expect that they've got time to train and support you as fast as you wish. Help needs to be available, but it also needs to be coordinated. Otherwise, you can easily become part of the problem. On the other hand, there's always something you can do. You could organize a web site to act as a clearing house to list poeple and expertise in the MapInfo community who are able and willing to help and get word of that to the emergency response organizations. At least then they have a way to know what resourses they can draw on. BTW, the request for help from GISCorps I posted yesterday seems to be take care of. See the following that came in via the GISCO list this morning: -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GISCorps Alert (fwd) Dear Volunteer, We would like to inform you that all 20 positions are filled at this time and the deployed volunteers are either on their way to Jackson or will arrive there in within the next day. The response to our alert has been extraordinary and we have added 260 new volunteers to our database since yesterday(it's over 530 now)! We are now adding the names of qualified volunteers to a wait list. Should any of the selected volunteers end up not going or if we are asked to provide more volunteers to other organizations, we will take your application into consideration. Thanks for your generosity and willingness to help out in these difficult times. Warm Regards, Shoreh Elhami, GISCorps Chair _www.giscorps.org_ (http://www.giscorps.org/) - List hosting
MI-L More update on suggestions for elping with Katrina efforts
FYI, I just received this update which is interesting and provides some suggestions for those that wish to help.. Note.. This is not the same message you saaw earlier so read on. It focuses on Kansas but is applicable to all Update on GIS Volunteers The GIS Coordinator in Jackson, MS contacted URISA's GIScorps (a volunteer group of GIS folks) asking for 20 volunteers. I happen to be a member of the GIScorps and knew at the time they were having difficulty filling the initial 20 slots, so knowing the Kansas and Missouri GIS communities as I do, I forwarded the information to the KCAIUG and MSDIS list serves. And I was right; as of this morning, I've received close to 60 responses! As of about noon yesterday, the initial 20 slots were filled. HOWEVER, there will be need for assistance in Louisianna and Mississippi for quite some time. If you've ever been involved in anything of this magnitude, you know how overwhelming the logisitcs are; unfortunately, managing individual responses offering assistance simply clogs up the works. Again, there are several ways to make yourself available as part of a resource pool. URISA is still collecting names of volunteers. You can sign up at www.giscorps.org. If you are a public employee in the state of Kansas, outside of Johnson County, send an email containing your name, work address, work number, home address, home number, your skills, and any equipment you can take with you to Micky Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He's compiling a consolidated list of available resources. If you are a public employee in Johnson County, send an email containing your name, work address, work number, home address, home number, your skills, and any equipment you can take with you to Carol McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I'm compiling a consolidated list of available resources in Johnson County. If you are a public employee in the state of Missouri, send the same type of email to Tony Spicci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you are a public employee in any other state, I would urge you to contact someone in your state Emergency Operations Center. Carol A. McCoy, Manager Geographic Information Services City of Olathe, Kansas 913.971.6658 voice 913.971.6288 fax Glenn Letham Founder, Managing Editor www.GISUser.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spatial Media LLC ph/fx: (250) 751-8737 txt me: 2506185037 Register for the GISuser Today Newsletter Keeping you informed about GIS Geospatial See http://www.GISuser.com/gisusertoday/ GISuser.com Taking You Beyond The Map We also suggest you visit our partner sites: www.MAPuser.com - land surveying www.theamericansurveyor.com - surveyors www.SymbianOne.com - mobile users developers www.LBSzone.com - mobile geospatial - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17738
RE: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina
Well said Bill.. Agreed, its hard not to get frustrated when you see everything going on... People doing everything humanly possible and yet everyone is looking for leadership and coordination... Truly amazing. Of interest, over the past several days I've been culling and organizing material and maps, images, data resources etc... And have somewhat of an organized page provided at http://www.gisuser.com/content/view/6785/28/. There's some useful information that will help to keep informed. We also have a very popular mapblog at http://www.flickr.com/photos/gisuser/ Some amazing imagery and some very informative maps. I've been contacted by a number of people wondering what they can do as well.. Its tough to find an answer. One guy was discussing the Google Map API and his point was that because it is so simple to use that it may be a very valuable resource in going door to door eventually and tracking survivors and the losses... As an example some of the apps like the running route google hacks provide this functionality. The guy who contacted my is an engineer from Alaska and is very eager to work with someone on a similar type project so anyone interested let me know and I can put you in touch with him Cheers and best wishes wo everyone that is being affected by this disaster in some way.. Stay safe Glenn -Original Message- From: Bill Thoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 6:13 AM To: MapInfo-L Subject: Re: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina Stay cool, folks. Flaming people for telling you something you don't want to hear isn't helping and is way out of line. Just because you want to jump in and help doesn't mean you will be helpful. In an emergency situation, the people who are *trained* to respond need to focus on their job and you can't expect that they've got time to train and support you as fast as you wish. Help needs to be available, but it also needs to be coordinated. Otherwise, you can easily become part of the problem. On the other hand, there's always something you can do. You could organize a web site to act as a clearing house to list poeple and expertise in the MapInfo community who are able and willing to help and get word of that to the emergency response organizations. At least then they have a way to know what resourses they can draw on. BTW, the request for help from GISCorps I posted yesterday seems to be take care of. See the following that came in via the GISCO list this morning: -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GISCorps Alert (fwd) Dear Volunteer, We would like to inform you that all 20 positions are filled at this time and the deployed volunteers are either on their way to Jackson or will arrive there in within the next day. The response to our alert has been extraordinary and we have added 260 new volunteers to our database since yesterday(it's over 530 now)! We are now adding the names of qualified volunteers to a wait list. Should any of the selected volunteers end up not going or if we are asked to provide more volunteers to other organizations, we will take your application into consideration. Thanks for your generosity and willingness to help out in these difficult times. Warm Regards, Shoreh Elhami, GISCorps Chair _www.giscorps.org_ (http://www.giscorps.org/) - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e- mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17734 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17739
Re: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina
To the List, In my note from yesterday I was rather harsh to Mr. Van Druten, however I stand beside my assessment of his previous email. How many of us have made pronouncements that are factually correct and still made others mad enough to chew tacks and spit nails, I know I have. It's rather like the various Microsoft jokes where the punch line is, You must be from Microsoft, the answer you gave was technically correct and utterly useless. How many of us try to tell those who depend on us for maps and analysis of data have made factual statements that sank the project we were arguing for? How many times have we responded to situations where a higher up is screaming for the very data they excised from the year's budget, and you tried to argue for as necessary, and you get blamed for both failing to get the funding request into the budget and the lack of the critical data that request would have taken care of? We are humans and we need to develop not only our technical skills but our people skills as well. To get projects funded from people who are ignorant to three decimal places in our field, we have to learn not only to state facts, but do so in a manner that produces the outcome that we desire. It is said that leadership is being able to not only tell some one to go to hell, but make them anticipate the trip. My aim was not to disgrace Mr. Van Druten, but to let him know that the manner in which he presented what he said was, to my sensibilities, not appropriate. It was also to encourage those who wished to volunteer to find some way to do so and not to be discouraged. In this I believe that Mr. Van Druten and I shared the same aim, though we expressed ourselves differently. I am also sure Mr. Van Druten's skills and certifications were hard won and he has every reason to be confident in his abilities and satisfied with his achievements. It is not for me to pass judgement on a person who I do not know and who I have never had the opportunity to associate with. The only thing I can weigh were the words in the email I read. Mr. Van Druten, perhaps instead of leaving the list you would consider sticking around and continuing to hone both your professional and people skills. It is up to you, but I think that you might get more out of staying than by leaving. I wish you the best. George Johnston Anchorage, Alaska --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the list, Based on the emails I have been getting berating me, I guess some of you have interpreted my email in the wrong light. In no way was I trying to tell you that your help in unwanted, all I was trying to do was describe the process and the difficulties associated with it when working with federal teams in the incident management process. I HOPE ALL OF YOU FIND YOUR OWN WAY TO HELP BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE NEED IT! Based on the responses I have received, I may leave this list. It is a shame when you try to tell someone truthful info that you get bashed for it! I have gained a lot from this list as to my user skills but right now I don't know if the trade off is worth it! Sincerely, Brian Van Druten (Embedded image moved to file: pic17421.jpg) - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17728 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17740
MI-L Oracle Spatial MapXtreme
hi can i connect to oracle spatial from mapxtreme 2004, how? what tools utilize for store a digital map in oracle spatial? greetings - Correo Yahoo! Comprueba qué es nuevo, aquí http://correo.yahoo.es
MI-L Albers Equal-Area projection Clarke spheroid? (ARC to MAPINFO)
I can't find this one in Universal Translator? thanks! *** Any opinions expressed in the email are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, or if you are concerned with the content of this email please e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The contents of an attachment to this e-mail may contain software viruses which could damage your own computer system. While the sender has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise this risk, we cannot accept liability for any damage which you sustain as a result of software viruses. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachments to this e-mail. - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17742
MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything
Perspective is important. Evidently more so outside the US. Estimated death toll as of December 31, 2004 in South Asian Tsunami. 1. Indonesia: 79,940 2. Sri Lanka: 24,743 3. India (inc Andaman and Nicobar Is): 7,330 4. Thailand: 2,394 5. Somalia: 120 6. Burma: 90 7. Maldives: 67 8. Malaysia: 65 9. Tanzania: 10 10. Seychelles: 1 11. Bangladesh: 2 12. Kenya: 1 Confirmed death toll in September 11 attacks: 2,819 Confirmed US troops killed in Iraq: 1885 Estimated death toll in Katrina: 55-80.
RE: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything
Don't even try this, not now. It will be months before all of the water is out and before they find the remains of those people who didn't make it out. Those who are dead and contained under the water in a house or building. Just mentioning those troops strikes a hard nerve. I just returned off of a 14-month deployment with the National Guard. And that has NOTHING to do with natural disaster. -R -Original Message- From: Penfold, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:06 PM To: Mapinfo-L (E-mail) Subject: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything Perspective is important. Evidently more so outside the US. Estimated death toll as of December 31, 2004 in South Asian Tsunami. 1. Indonesia: 79,940 2. Sri Lanka: 24,743 3. India (inc Andaman and Nicobar Is): 7,330 4. Thailand: 2,394 5. Somalia: 120 6. Burma: 90 7. Maldives: 67 8. Malaysia: 65 9. Tanzania: 10 10. Seychelles: 1 11. Bangladesh: 2 12. Kenya: 1 Confirmed death toll in September 11 attacks: 2,819 Confirmed US troops killed in Iraq: 1885 Estimated death toll in Katrina: 55-80. *** Any opinions expressed in the email are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, or if you are concerned with the content of this email please e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The contents of an attachment to this e-mail may contain software viruses which could damage your own computer system. While the sender has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise this risk, we cannot accept liability for any damage which you sustain as a result of software viruses. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachments to this e-mail. - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17744
RE: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything
I do not believe this! What are you even trying to say here!? NOT the place for this. -Original Message- From: Penfold, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:06 PM To: Mapinfo-L (E-mail) Subject: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything Perspective is important. Evidently more so outside the US. Estimated death toll as of December 31, 2004 in South Asian Tsunami. 1. Indonesia: 79,940 2. Sri Lanka: 24,743 3. India (inc Andaman and Nicobar Is): 7,330 4. Thailand: 2,394 5. Somalia: 120 6. Burma: 90 7. Maldives: 67 8. Malaysia: 65 9. Tanzania: 10 10. Seychelles: 1 11. Bangladesh: 2 12. Kenya: 1 Confirmed death toll in September 11 attacks: 2,819 Confirmed US troops killed in Iraq: 1885 Estimated death toll in Katrina: 55-80. - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17745
RE: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything
His death-toll estimates for the hurricane are incorrect, anyway. -Original Message- From: Alan Gunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:19 PM To: Penfold, Robert; mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: RE: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything I do not believe this! What are you even trying to say here!? NOT the place for this. -Original Message- From: Penfold, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:06 PM To: Mapinfo-L (E-mail) Subject: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything Perspective is important. Evidently more so outside the US. Estimated death toll as of December 31, 2004 in South Asian Tsunami. 1. Indonesia: 79,940 2. Sri Lanka: 24,743 3. India (inc Andaman and Nicobar Is): 7,330 4. Thailand: 2,394 5. Somalia: 120 6. Burma: 90 7. Maldives: 67 8. Malaysia: 65 9. Tanzania: 10 10. Seychelles: 1 11. Bangladesh: 2 12. Kenya: 1 Confirmed death toll in September 11 attacks: 2,819 Confirmed US troops killed in Iraq: 1885 Estimated death toll in Katrina: 55-80. - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17745 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17746
Re: MI-L Selecting my map window
Hi Terry, MapperInfo() only works on windows that is a mapper. So you need to check it before using MapperInfo(), like this: If WindowInfo(lnWindowID,WIN_INFO_TYPE) = WIN_MAPPER Then ... Best regards/Med venlig hilsen Lars V. Nielsen GisPro, Denmark http://www.gispro.dk/ - Original Message - From: Terry McDonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: MI-L Selecting my map window Hello again, Dear List Hopefully this will be a quickie. I could spend all day searching through Help I want to disappear a particular layer, csrZonesInRoute, which I do by the following code: --- lnWindowID = FrontWindow() lnNoLayers = MapperInfo( lnWindowID, MAPPER_INFO_LAYERS) I = 1 Do while I = lnNoLayers If LayerInfo( lnWindowID, I, LAYER_INFO_NAME) = csrZonesInRoute then Remove Map Layer csrZonesInRoute I = lnNoLayers + 1 ' to get out of the loop Else I = I + 1 End If Loop Trouble is this layer has a legend window associated with it (I know the Legend window ID, BTW) So, if the Legend window is uppermost, the line: lnNoLayers = MapperInfo( lnWindowID, MAPPER_INFO_LAYERS) returns an error Expecting mapper window - obviously. So what I want to do is first to ensure that the mapper window is to the fore, i.e. selected front window. How do I do this? 'ppreciate it Terry McDonnell - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17747