RE: MI-L save window print resolution

2005-09-02 Thread Tim Smith
MapInfo doesn't support 16-colour RLE (run-length encoded) bitmaps (BMP). 
256-colour RLE bitmaps work fine.
I've got approx. 1-million map tiles that are in this format - that's gonna 
take a whole lotta processing
;)



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From: Uffe Kousgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 September 2005 18:33
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MapInfo 8.0 supports both GIF and TIFF-CMYK as output formats. I'm not sure 
how to achieve EPS, but perhaps some of the PDF printer drivers can.

Regards
Uffe

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Thanks for putting things more clearly than I did.. BTW, GIF isn't always 
lossless. It can do nasty things to your colors if you chose a low number of 
colors (less than there are in your maps).  But  it compress very well
if you have few colors.   Sometimes I export large Tiffs and convert them
to GIF in Photoshop. Anyway, you can't export directly from MIP, as was 
requested by the person who asked the question.

Also to be more precise :  png or tif is the way to go if you have to stay in 
raster mode. But if you have much details and fine lines in your maps, the 
vector format is always much better. It's really a pitty that MapInfo doesn't 
allow exportation in eps mode.. I wonder why it is so ?  because MIP don't want 
to be a fee to Adobe, or whoever invented that postscript
format ?   or may be it is because that would imply the translation from
rgb values in cmyk values and the implementation of a lot of new code ? who 
knows..  any way, it's a pain to be left with only the wmf format, because in 
the press world they don't like window things.. MIP should also implement CMYK 
palettes. With RGB printing to real world press print is a nightmare.


Christiane Roh



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Hi Christiane,

Please let me add a few comments on your raster formats. There are 3 kinds

of bitmap formats:

Uncompressed: TIF, BMP, PSD
Compressed, loss-less: PNG, TIF, GIF
Compressed, with loss: JPG

Main comment is PNG is not a compromise between size and quality, since quality 
is as good as in the uncompressed formats. Secondly: TIF exists both in 
compressed and uncompressed versions (both loss-less). That is called TIFF 
LZW in MapInfo.

But I agree, when you say PNG is the way to go :-)

Regards
Uffe

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Hi,

I encountered the same kind of problems one year ago while we prepared our 
atlas for print. When you chose to export your windows, there are several types 
of format which you can chose.

a) Raster format export your maps as if they were photographs. That could 
create huge files depending on your resolution and map dimension. Nowaday 
printers takes up to 1200dpi if they are good printers. But 600 dpi shold be 
good enough.. With raster format, things could go wrong in different ways; one 
important thing lies with PageMaker too : are you sure that you have chosen the 
right options in dealing with the picture ?  Sometimes it can compress pictures 
which isn't a good idea. There are two kinds of raster formats : the 
uncompressed ones : *.tif, *.bmp, *.psd;  the first is the most frequently 
used; the second is a Microsoft format and the last is a Photoshop format. Of 
the three, the tif format is probably the most frequently used. Among the 
compressed files format, you have the *.jpg and the *.png.  The frequently 
encountered jpg format, is a compressed format which creates bad artifacts with 
limits and could blurr your maps; it's made for photographic images, not for 
charts or maps which should keep clean borders. The *png format is also 
compressed but of better quality. It's the way to go if you want a good 
compromise between size and quality. If space isn't a criteria, then the Tif 
format is better. As far as compressed format goes, it would be better to have 
*.Gif format rather than *.jpg. The former is able to keep clean borders, while 
the other isn't.



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RE: MI-L Louisiana

2005-09-02 Thread Tim Smith
Apologies for sounding dumb, but what is 'Federal GIST within ROSS'?
I'm from the UK, so never heard of it.



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Mr. VanDruten,

I have waited to comment on your note, below, until I
could comment in civil terms and make any points in a
civil and ordered manner.

Two individuals have asked what they could do to
assist in a continuing natural disaster, in effect you
told them not to bother, that the federal government
would handle it and that their platform of choice was
not of any use anyway.   Perhaps you missed the
lessons in grade school, for want of a horseshoe the
kingdom was lost .I say to anyone who wants to
see if they can help, you GO!   Do your best and see
how you can help.   I would like to assist if there is
any way to do so also.

Mr VanDruten, you do not know how they can assist, of
if whatever job they do will come up with a way to
save several or hundreds of lives, nesessity is the
mother of invention.   I congratulate you on being a
certified as a Federal GIST within ROSS, it is
certainly an accomplishment.   When it comes to being
in the right place at the right time and being able to
assist someone in need, it doesn't mean squat.

These two gentelmen can do whatever analysis they come
up with and can hand over their work to FEMA or
whoever else takes over so there will be something to
start with.   I know there are protocols and standards
to observe, but helping out in an emergency means you
do what you can with what you have where you are at.

Perhaps we might look at this differently, how can we
as a MapInfo community support the recovery effort.  
Can we work as a group on projects where there is no
coverage, but a need?   Is there something we can lend
our talents to that might make a difference to the
folks who have been so hard hit?   We are a community
who have professional talents that we can employ to
help those who have lost most, if not all, of what
they have.

Let us not let wet blankets like Mr. VanDruten dampen
our instincts to assist where we can to help others.  
Let's see what we can do.   I'm contacting MSNBC to
see what small town there are that need help and don't
have any resources.   It's a long shot, but it's
something.

George

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 Hello List,
 
 Just some FYI information.  Although there may be a
 need right now, this
 type of info is probably being handled on the
 Federal Gov't end by the
 Incident Management Teams that are down their to
 provide relief.  I myself
 am a federal GIST, recognized within the resource
 ordering system as one.
 You would have to be a GIST within ROSS and be made available to 
 help. Even if you have years of experience, you can't just
 me made a GIST because
 there are protocols for data collection, naming
 conventions, etc. that are
 taught to GIST's.  There was a huge need for GIS in
 the Columbia Space
 Shuttle response but I am not sure how much out of
 house personnel was
 used.  That incident was managed in the same way the
 Katrina response is
 now.  Also be aware that the federal standard for
 these type incidents is
 ArcGIS.
 
 I am not saying that there no chance your services
 might or can be used,
 just making the point of what is probably going on.
 
 On a side note, my wife is down there with a federal
 response team and they
 have no need for GIS services on their team at this
 time.
 
 
 Brian Van Druten
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MI-L Selecting my map window

2005-09-02 Thread Terry McDonnell
Hello again, Dear List
 
Hopefully this will be a quickie.  I could spend all day searching
through Help
 
I want to disappear a particular layer, csrZonesInRoute, which I do by
the following code:
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lnWindowID = FrontWindow()  
lnNoLayers = MapperInfo( lnWindowID, MAPPER_INFO_LAYERS) 
I  = 1
Do while I = lnNoLayers
  If LayerInfo( lnWindowID, I, LAYER_INFO_NAME) = csrZonesInRoute then
 Remove Map Layer csrZonesInRoute
 I = lnNoLayers + 1   ' to get out of the loop
  Else
 I = I + 1
  End If
Loop

Trouble is this layer has a legend window associated with it (I know the
Legend window ID, BTW)
So, if the Legend window is uppermost, the line: lnNoLayers =
MapperInfo( lnWindowID, MAPPER_INFO_LAYERS) returns an error Expecting
mapper window - obviously.
 
So what I want to do is first to ensure that the mapper window is to the
fore, i.e. selected front window.  
 
How do I do this?
 
'ppreciate it
 
Terry McDonnell



MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina

2005-09-02 Thread Brian_VanDruten

To the list,

Based on the emails I have been getting berating me, I guess some of you
have interpreted my email in the wrong light.  In no way was I trying to
tell you that your help in unwanted, all I was trying to do was describe
the process and the difficulties associated with it when working with
federal teams in the incident management process.

I HOPE ALL OF YOU FIND YOUR OWN WAY TO HELP BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE NEED IT!

Based on the responses I have received, I may leave this list.  It is a
shame when you try to tell someone truthful info that you get bashed for
it!  I have gained a lot from this list as to my user skills but right now
I don't know if the trade off is worth it!

Sincerely,

Brian Van Druten
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RE: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina

2005-09-02 Thread Zhang, Jiye
Brain, don't leave the list. You are just telling the truth. Nothing is
wrong with you. Be strong, and I am sure we are here for help if the help is
needed.

Jiye Zhang
NYC DEP DWQC Field Operation
(718) 595-6313
(718) 595-6399 (fax)
 

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To the list,

Based on the emails I have been getting berating me, I guess some of you
have interpreted my email in the wrong light.  In no way was I trying to
tell you that your help in unwanted, all I was trying to do was describe
the process and the difficulties associated with it when working with
federal teams in the incident management process.

I HOPE ALL OF YOU FIND YOUR OWN WAY TO HELP BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE NEED IT!

Based on the responses I have received, I may leave this list.  It is a
shame when you try to tell someone truthful info that you get bashed for
it!  I have gained a lot from this list as to my user skills but right now
I don't know if the trade off is worth it!

Sincerely,

Brian Van Druten
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Re: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina

2005-09-02 Thread Ben Crane
Brian,

Don't worry about the abuse...most of it originates
from sources completely unrelated to your email
although the email brought it to the surface. We're
all guilty of it at some point or another. 

You've probably learned a lot from this list and the
list has probably learned a lot from you...I'm based
in the UK and have extremely strong feelings about the
disaster in New Orleans and I'm not involved or know
anyone involved...just imagine how wound up others
might be...At least they lost it at your email and not
at a colleague/friend...yelling at a computer screen
is one of my favorite stress-relievers.

Your email carries weight, and once people calm down
they see it for what it is, not what they think it is.

Ben

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MI-L GIS Support

2005-09-02 Thread Myron Messak

Hello everyone,
I think we should put a list togethter, and have avaiable those willing to 
help. With a short description of qualifications:

As an example,
Myron Messak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Past Fire Chief
NYS Certified Haz. Mat. Tech.
NYS Certified Code Enforcement Officer
30 years Construction experience.
NYS certified EMT.
Profiecent in MapInfo and ArcView 3.3


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Re: MI-L GIS Support

2005-09-02 Thread Uffe Kousgaard
As Brian Van Druten told us originally, the authorities are only seeking GIS 
volunteers with strong ArcGIS 9 experience:

http://www10.giscafe.com/nbc/articles/view_article.php?section=CorpNewsarticleid=202951

Regards
Uffe

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Hello everyone,
I think we should put a list togethter, and have avaiable those willing to 
help. With a short description of qualifications:

As an example,
Myron Messak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Past Fire Chief
NYS Certified Haz. Mat. Tech.
NYS Certified Code Enforcement Officer
30 years Construction experience.
NYS certified EMT.
Profiecent in MapInfo and ArcView 3.3


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Re: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina

2005-09-02 Thread Bill Thoen
Stay cool, folks. Flaming people for telling you something you don't want
to hear isn't helping and is way out of line. Just because you want to
jump in and help doesn't mean you will be helpful. In an emergency
situation, the people who are *trained* to respond need to focus on their
job and you can't expect that they've got time to train and support you as
fast as you wish. Help needs to be available, but it also needs to be
coordinated. Otherwise, you can easily become part of the problem.

On the other hand, there's always something you can do. You could organize
a web site to act as a clearing house to list poeple and expertise in the
MapInfo community who are able and willing to help and get word of that to
the emergency response organizations. At least then they have a way to
know what resourses they can draw on. 

BTW, the request for help from GISCorps I posted yesterday seems to be 
take care of. See the following that came in via the GISCO list this 
morning:

-- Forwarded message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GISCorps Alert (fwd)


Dear Volunteer,

We would like to inform you that all 20 positions are filled at this time
and the deployed volunteers are either on their way to Jackson or will
arrive there in within the next day. The response to our alert has been
extraordinary and we have added 260 new volunteers to our database since
yesterday(it's over 530 now)!

We are now adding the names of qualified volunteers to a wait list. Should
any of the selected volunteers end up not going or if we are asked to
provide more volunteers to other organizations, we will take your
application into consideration.

Thanks for your generosity and willingness to help out in these  difficult
times.

Warm Regards,

Shoreh Elhami, GISCorps Chair
_www.giscorps.org_ (http://www.giscorps.org/)




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MI-L Interesting article on maps and Louisiana on BBC website: Net offers map help after the flood

2005-09-02 Thread laure . dessemontet
All, 

Here is a new insight on the help maps could provide in case of an 
emergency. I found it quite interesting. Experts can come from unexpected 
places!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4208070.stm

Best regards

Laure Dessemontet-Berthoud

Laure Dessemontet-Berthoud - Géomaticienne/statisticienne
Etat de Vaud - Dép. de la Formation et la Jeunesse ? DFJ 
Direction générale de l'enseignement obligatoire - DGEO - DOP
Rue de la Barre 8 , CH - 1014 Lausanne
Tél: +41(0)21 316 31 63 
Tél: +41(0)21 316 32 19
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MI-L float value to csv

2005-09-02 Thread Dewen Hou





Hi All,

I found that when print or write a float value to a csv file, the total
number of digit will always be 8 if there is any decimal digits. So when
print a value of -123.123456 to a csv file, the result will just be
-123.123. This will lead to an accuracy loss.  Any idea?

My test code is as follow:

Open File c:\test.csv For output As #1
dim x as float
x = -123.1234567
  'and the result is:
print #1, str$(x)   '-123.123
print #1, x   '-123.123
Write #1, str$(x)   '-123.123
Write #1, x   '-123.123

Close File #1

Thanks in advance,

David Hou

MI-L Re: your mail

2005-09-02 Thread Bill Thoen
You've got a point, for sure. I just know from experience that free help 
isn't always helpful if they aren't experienced in what to do. You don't 
need people working at cross purposes. I guess it's a matter of degree. 
When people are dying RIGHT NOW, you can always use help becuase those 
problems are obvious. But when you're trying to do regional search, rescue 
and evacuation with limited resources you need some coordination and 
commnication. Trouble is, with an emergency, there's always an element of 
confusion, not unlike the fog of war and if you are dealing with it, you 
really want the help to be in the right place and doing the right thing.

And for sure, sometimes the authorities can't do the job right either... 
or as in this case, fast enough. So you have to do what you feel you have 
to do. There's plenty of time later to argue over whether it was wise or 
not. 

- Bill


On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Bagwell, Ross wrote:

 I'd rather have 100 people jump and volunteer who are unqualified than have 
 99 sit there watching going wow, that sucks.
 
 This isn't intended to be a political thread, but I think we've caught FEMA 
 with their pants down. Really. Look around the immediate area... Fort Polk is 
 only 4 hours away, with an entire Brigade of the 10th Mountain readily 
 available. Warehouses of water and MREs. Shut down training and get the help 
 where it is needed... locally. Eglin AFB is only a days drive away, Fort Hood 
 is only a days drive away, and then there are the bases that are only 2 days 
 drive away... with warehouses full of MREs, water... abundant labor and 
 vehicles to mobilize and send there. What about giving the entire region the 
 week off of school and sending abudant numbers of school buses there to get 
 those people out... spread them around in tent cities (that can be assembled 
 VERY quickly) and then work on getting the place fixed, rather than spinning 
 your wheels with having to secure the place.
 
 Seems like the people were just dumped off there and suddenly after a day or 
 two they noticed that there aren't enough supplies to take care of them 
 (duh). With all of the near misses in the past, were the various government 
 groups (local and otherwise) not foreseeing such an event? Will this open up 
 their eyes as to the reality of WHEN (not IF) it will happen again in the 
 future? We can strategically place warehouses with food and water to aid in 
 the annual disasters that occur... hurricane, tornado, flood or other.
 
 The world watches as we portray the lack of help and comraderie in our press 
 - instead, we have people worrying about breaking in to the local Walmart so 
 they can pick up a free flat screen TV. No wonder why the US has the 
 reputation overseas.
 
 Just my .02 (adjusted for inflation and price gouging)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Thoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:13 AM
 To: MapInfo-L
 Subject: Re: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina
 
 
 Stay cool, folks. Flaming people for telling you something you don't want
 to hear isn't helping and is way out of line. Just because you want to
 jump in and help doesn't mean you will be helpful. In an emergency
 situation, the people who are *trained* to respond need to focus on their
 job and you can't expect that they've got time to train and support you as
 fast as you wish. Help needs to be available, but it also needs to be
 coordinated. Otherwise, you can easily become part of the problem.
 
 On the other hand, there's always something you can do. You could organize
 a web site to act as a clearing house to list poeple and expertise in the
 MapInfo community who are able and willing to help and get word of that to
 the emergency response organizations. At least then they have a way to
 know what resourses they can draw on. 
 
 BTW, the request for help from GISCorps I posted yesterday seems to be 
 take care of. See the following that came in via the GISCO list this 
 morning:
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: GISCorps Alert (fwd)
 
 
 Dear Volunteer,
 
 We would like to inform you that all 20 positions are filled at this time
 and the deployed volunteers are either on their way to Jackson or will
 arrive there in within the next day. The response to our alert has been
 extraordinary and we have added 260 new volunteers to our database since
 yesterday(it's over 530 now)!
 
 We are now adding the names of qualified volunteers to a wait list. Should
 any of the selected volunteers end up not going or if we are asked to
 provide more volunteers to other organizations, we will take your
 application into consideration.
 
 Thanks for your generosity and willingness to help out in these  difficult
 times.
 
 Warm Regards,
 
 Shoreh Elhami, GISCorps Chair
 _www.giscorps.org_ (http://www.giscorps.org/)
 
 
 
 
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MI-L More update on suggestions for elping with Katrina efforts

2005-09-02 Thread GISuser.com - Glenn
FYI, I just received this update which is interesting and provides some
suggestions for those that wish to help.. Note.. This is not the same
message you saaw earlier so read on. It focuses on Kansas but is
applicable to all

Update on GIS Volunteers 

The GIS Coordinator in Jackson, MS contacted URISA's GIScorps (a 
volunteer group of GIS folks) asking for 20 volunteers.  I happen to 
be a member of the GIScorps and knew at the time they were having 
difficulty filling the initial 20 slots, so knowing the Kansas and 
Missouri GIS communities as I do, I forwarded the information to the 
KCAIUG and MSDIS list serves.  And I was right; as of this morning, 
I've received close to 60 responses! 

As of about noon yesterday, the initial 20 slots were filled.   
HOWEVER, there will be need for assistance in Louisianna and 
Mississippi for quite some time.  If you've ever been involved in 
anything of this magnitude, you know how overwhelming the logisitcs 
are; unfortunately, managing individual responses offering assistance 
simply clogs up the works.  Again, there are several ways to make 
yourself available as part of a resource pool. 

URISA is still collecting names of volunteers.  You can sign 
up at www.giscorps.org. 

If you are a public employee in the state of Kansas, outside 
of Johnson County, send an email containing your name, work address, 
work number, home address, home number, your skills, and any equipment 
you can take with you to Micky Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  He's 
compiling a consolidated list of available resources. 

If you are a public employee in Johnson County, send an  
email containing your name, work address, work number, home address, 
home number, your skills, and any equipment you can take with you to 
Carol McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  I'm compiling a consolidated list 
of available resources in Johnson County. 

If you are a public employee in the state of Missouri, send 
the same type of email to Tony Spicci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). 

If you are a public employee in any other state, I would urge 
you to contact someone in your state Emergency Operations Center. 

Carol A. McCoy, Manager 
Geographic Information Services 
City of Olathe, Kansas 
913.971.6658 voice 
913.971.6288 fax 



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RE: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina

2005-09-02 Thread GISuser.com - Glenn
Well said Bill.. Agreed, its hard not to get frustrated when you see
everything going on... People doing everything humanly  possible and yet
everyone is looking for leadership and coordination... Truly amazing.

Of interest, over the past several days I've been culling and organizing
material and maps, images, data resources etc... And have somewhat of an
organized page provided at http://www.gisuser.com/content/view/6785/28/.
There's some useful information that will help to keep informed. We also
have a very popular mapblog at http://www.flickr.com/photos/gisuser/ 
Some amazing imagery and some very informative maps. 

I've been contacted by a number of people wondering what they can do as
well.. Its tough to find an answer. One guy was discussing the Google
Map API and his point was that because it is so simple to use that it
may be a very valuable resource in going door to door eventually and
tracking survivors and the losses... As an example some of the apps like
the running route google hacks provide this functionality. The guy who
contacted my is an engineer from Alaska and is very eager to work with
someone on a similar type project so anyone interested let me know and I
can put you in touch with him

Cheers and best wishes wo everyone that is being affected by this
disaster in some way.. Stay safe

Glenn










 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Thoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 6:13 AM
 To: MapInfo-L
 Subject: Re: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina
 
 
 Stay cool, folks. Flaming people for telling you something 
 you don't want to hear isn't helping and is way out of line. 
 Just because you want to jump in and help doesn't mean you 
 will be helpful. In an emergency situation, the people who 
 are *trained* to respond need to focus on their job and you 
 can't expect that they've got time to train and support you 
 as fast as you wish. Help needs to be available, but it also 
 needs to be coordinated. Otherwise, you can easily become 
 part of the problem.
 
 On the other hand, there's always something you can do. You 
 could organize a web site to act as a clearing house to list 
 poeple and expertise in the MapInfo community who are able 
 and willing to help and get word of that to the emergency 
 response organizations. At least then they have a way to know 
 what resourses they can draw on. 
 
 BTW, the request for help from GISCorps I posted yesterday 
 seems to be 
 take care of. See the following that came in via the GISCO list this 
 morning:
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: GISCorps Alert (fwd)
 
 
 Dear Volunteer,
 
 We would like to inform you that all 20 positions are filled 
 at this time and the deployed volunteers are either on their 
 way to Jackson or will arrive there in within the next day. 
 The response to our alert has been extraordinary and we have 
 added 260 new volunteers to our database since yesterday(it's 
 over 530 now)!
 
 We are now adding the names of qualified volunteers to a wait 
 list. Should any of the selected volunteers end up not going 
 or if we are asked to provide more volunteers to other 
 organizations, we will take your application into consideration.
 
 Thanks for your generosity and willingness to help out in 
 these  difficult times.
 
 Warm Regards,
 
 Shoreh Elhami, GISCorps Chair
 _www.giscorps.org_ (http://www.giscorps.org/)
 
 
 
 
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Re: MI-L My email about GIS support for Katrina

2005-09-02 Thread George Johnston
To the List,

In my note from yesterday I was rather harsh to Mr.
Van Druten, however I stand beside my assessment of
his previous email.

How many of us have made pronouncements that are
factually correct and still made others mad enough to
chew tacks and spit nails, I know I have.   It's
rather like the various Microsoft jokes where the
punch line is, You must be from Microsoft, the answer
you gave was technically correct and utterly useless.
  How many of us try to tell those who depend on us
for maps and analysis of data have made factual
statements that sank the project we were arguing for? 
 How many times have we responded to situations where
a higher up is screaming for the very data they
excised from the year's budget, and you tried to argue
for as necessary, and you get blamed for both failing
to get the funding request into the budget and the
lack of the critical data that request would have
taken care of?

We are humans and we need to develop not only our
technical skills but our people skills as well.   To
get projects funded from people who are ignorant to
three decimal places in our field, we have to learn
not only to state facts, but do so in a manner that
produces the outcome that we desire.   It is said that
leadership is being able to not only tell some one to
go to hell, but make them anticipate the trip.

My aim was not to disgrace Mr. Van Druten, but to let
him know that the manner in which he presented what he
said was, to my sensibilities, not appropriate.   It
was also to encourage those who wished to volunteer to
find some way to do so and not to be discouraged.   In
this I believe that Mr. Van Druten and I shared the
same aim, though we expressed ourselves differently.

I am also sure Mr. Van Druten's skills and
certifications were hard won and he has every reason
to be confident in his abilities and satisfied with
his achievements.   It is not for me to pass judgement
on a person who I do not know and who I have never had
the opportunity to associate with.   The only thing I
can weigh were the words in the email I read.

Mr. Van Druten, perhaps instead of leaving the list
you would consider sticking around and continuing to
hone both your professional and people skills.   It is
up to you, but I think that you might get more out of
staying than by leaving.   I wish you the best.

George Johnston
Anchorage, Alaska

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 To the list,
 
 Based on the emails I have been getting berating me,
 I guess some of you
 have interpreted my email in the wrong light.  In no
 way was I trying to
 tell you that your help in unwanted, all I was
 trying to do was describe
 the process and the difficulties associated with it
 when working with
 federal teams in the incident management process.
 
 I HOPE ALL OF YOU FIND YOUR OWN WAY TO HELP BECAUSE
 THOSE PEOPLE NEED IT!
 
 Based on the responses I have received, I may leave
 this list.  It is a
 shame when you try to tell someone truthful info
 that you get bashed for
 it!  I have gained a lot from this list as to my
 user skills but right now
 I don't know if the trade off is worth it!
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Brian Van Druten
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MI-L Oracle Spatial MapXtreme

2005-09-02 Thread Wilfredo Rios M.
hi
 
can i connect to oracle spatial from mapxtreme 2004, how?
what tools utilize for store a digital map in oracle spatial?
 
greetings


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MI-L Albers Equal-Area projection Clarke spheroid? (ARC to MAPINFO)

2005-09-02 Thread Bagwell, Ross
I can't find this one in Universal Translator?

thanks!

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MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything

2005-09-02 Thread Penfold, Robert
Perspective is important.  Evidently more so outside the US.
 
 
Estimated death toll as of December 31, 2004 in South Asian Tsunami.
1. Indonesia: 79,940
2. Sri Lanka: 24,743
3. India (inc Andaman and Nicobar Is): 7,330
4. Thailand: 2,394 
5. Somalia: 120
6. Burma: 90
7. Maldives: 67
8. Malaysia: 65 
9. Tanzania: 10
10. Seychelles: 1
11. Bangladesh: 2
12. Kenya: 1
 
Confirmed death toll in September 11 attacks: 2,819
Confirmed US troops killed in Iraq: 1885
 
Estimated death toll in Katrina: 55-80.
 
 


RE: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything

2005-09-02 Thread Bagwell, Ross
Don't even try this, not now.

It will be months before all of the water is out and before they find the 
remains of those people who didn't make it out. Those who are dead and 
contained under the water in a house or building.

Just mentioning those troops strikes a hard nerve. I just returned off of a 
14-month deployment with the National Guard. And that has NOTHING to do with 
natural disaster.

-R

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From: Penfold, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:06 PM
To: Mapinfo-L (E-mail)
Subject: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is
everything


Perspective is important.  Evidently more so outside the US.
 
 
Estimated death toll as of December 31, 2004 in South Asian Tsunami.
1. Indonesia: 79,940
2. Sri Lanka: 24,743
3. India (inc Andaman and Nicobar Is): 7,330
4. Thailand: 2,394 
5. Somalia: 120
6. Burma: 90
7. Maldives: 67
8. Malaysia: 65 
9. Tanzania: 10
10. Seychelles: 1
11. Bangladesh: 2
12. Kenya: 1
 
Confirmed death toll in September 11 attacks: 2,819
Confirmed US troops killed in Iraq: 1885
 
Estimated death toll in Katrina: 55-80.
 
 

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RE: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything

2005-09-02 Thread Alan Gunn
I do not believe this! What are you even trying to say here!? NOT the
place for this. 

-Original Message-
From: Penfold, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:06 PM
To: Mapinfo-L (E-mail)
Subject: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is
everything

Perspective is important.  Evidently more so outside the US.
 
 
Estimated death toll as of December 31, 2004 in South Asian Tsunami.
1. Indonesia: 79,940
2. Sri Lanka: 24,743
3. India (inc Andaman and Nicobar Is): 7,330
4. Thailand: 2,394 
5. Somalia: 120
6. Burma: 90
7. Maldives: 67
8. Malaysia: 65 
9. Tanzania: 10
10. Seychelles: 1
11. Bangladesh: 2
12. Kenya: 1
 
Confirmed death toll in September 11 attacks: 2,819
Confirmed US troops killed in Iraq: 1885
 
Estimated death toll in Katrina: 55-80.
 
 

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RE: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is everything

2005-09-02 Thread Evan MacDougall
His death-toll estimates for the hurricane are incorrect, anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Alan Gunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:19 PM
To: Penfold, Robert; mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com
Subject: RE: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is
everything


I do not believe this! What are you even trying to say here!? NOT the
place for this. 

-Original Message-
From: Penfold, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:06 PM
To: Mapinfo-L (E-mail)
Subject: MI-L email about GIS support for Katrina - perspective is
everything

Perspective is important.  Evidently more so outside the US.
 
 
Estimated death toll as of December 31, 2004 in South Asian Tsunami.
1. Indonesia: 79,940
2. Sri Lanka: 24,743
3. India (inc Andaman and Nicobar Is): 7,330
4. Thailand: 2,394 
5. Somalia: 120
6. Burma: 90
7. Maldives: 67
8. Malaysia: 65 
9. Tanzania: 10
10. Seychelles: 1
11. Bangladesh: 2
12. Kenya: 1
 
Confirmed death toll in September 11 attacks: 2,819
Confirmed US troops killed in Iraq: 1885
 
Estimated death toll in Katrina: 55-80.
 
 

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Re: MI-L Selecting my map window

2005-09-02 Thread Lars V. Nielsen (GisPro)
Hi Terry,

MapperInfo() only works on windows that is a mapper.

So you need to check it before using MapperInfo(), like this:

If WindowInfo(lnWindowID,WIN_INFO_TYPE) = WIN_MAPPER Then ...

Best regards/Med venlig hilsen
Lars V. Nielsen
GisPro, Denmark
http://www.gispro.dk/

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From: Terry McDonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:53 PM
Subject: MI-L Selecting my map window


Hello again, Dear List
 
Hopefully this will be a quickie.  I could spend all day searching
through Help
 
I want to disappear a particular layer, csrZonesInRoute, which I do by
the following code:
---
lnWindowID = FrontWindow()  
lnNoLayers = MapperInfo( lnWindowID, MAPPER_INFO_LAYERS) 
I  = 1
Do while I = lnNoLayers
  If LayerInfo( lnWindowID, I, LAYER_INFO_NAME) = csrZonesInRoute then
 Remove Map Layer csrZonesInRoute
 I = lnNoLayers + 1   ' to get out of the loop
  Else
 I = I + 1
  End If
Loop

Trouble is this layer has a legend window associated with it (I know the
Legend window ID, BTW)
So, if the Legend window is uppermost, the line: lnNoLayers =
MapperInfo( lnWindowID, MAPPER_INFO_LAYERS) returns an error Expecting
mapper window - obviously.
 
So what I want to do is first to ensure that the mapper window is to the
fore, i.e. selected front window.  
 
How do I do this?
 
'ppreciate it
 
Terry McDonnell



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