RE: [MI-L] Feature Wish List - UT GDB

2006-10-27 Thread Flavio Hendry
Hi Mike

 I think that the FME product (of which Universal Translator is a
 subset)
 requires an ESRI product installed on the client for GeoDatabase
 translation.

depends wich you mean, there are now three you there:
- personal geodatabase (ms access based), FME requires ArcGIS installed
- SDE geodatabase, requires SDE
- the new file based geodatabase (sounds terrific), does not require
ArcGIS as far as I know.

Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards
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RE: [MI-L] feature wish list - Vertical Mapper

2006-10-27 Thread Jakob Lanstorp
I think there was no development on it since at least five years. This
thing is dead!

I agree, MapInfo Corp. should drop Vertical Mapper completely and become
a reseller of Engage3D. This would be best for everybody including
MapInfo Corp. A dead product leads to nothing..

If Encome would 'open up' Engage3D with an SDK to be access from
MapBasic and MapXtreme things would be really nice. 
 


Jakob Lanstorp
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Hi all

there is the often mentioned wish to integrate Vertical Mapper. I wonder
why, as this products is completely outdated and full of bugs, such as:
- does not work at all on large datasets
- vectorizing of contours and slope etc. does not work or is extremely
slow, results are poor (compared with i.e. Engage 3D, extremely fast and
creating smooth and gorgeous contours, as well on extremely large
datasets)
- import often does not work
- 3D capabilities are useless
- and and and ...

I think there was no development on it since at least five years. This
thing is dead!

If integrate something useful, then Engage 3D pleas, which is a full
fledge 3D product. See http://www.encom.com.au/template2.asp?pageid=24.

Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards
Flavio Hendry


TYDAC Web-Site:  http://www.tydac.ch
TYDAC MapServer: http://www.mapserver.ch

  Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [MI-L] Feature Wish List

2006-10-25 Thread David Reid
I've been watching the Feature... thread and don't recall this one little
item...


That is to add the [IF] functionality to SQL capabilities of the Query and
Label builders

Ex:

IF (FEATURE LIKE Mapinfo adds IF and other functionality and fixes),

   Print(Happy Mapinfo Customer +chr$(10)+ Happily Upgrades more often)

Else Print(Continue to just make do with the old version you're running)


Dave

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RE: [MI-L] Feature Wish List

2006-10-25 Thread Tim Rideout
I think the text labelling and the layouts require upgrading. Neither has
been touched for years and they have slipped behind. For example you always
seem to have to have a bit of a fight with the frames to get the map at the
correct display scale, and the legends often don't display correctly. On the
label front some more intelligence about fitting the names in (see
MAPublisher Version 7 for example which now has the option to fit the label
within the polygon or onto the base line by adjusting the font and letter
spacing), and proper curved text.

Regards

Tim


Dr Tim Rideout
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Visit XYZ at the Frankfurt Book Fair, Oct 4 - 8th 2006, Intergeo Munich Oct
10-13th 2006 or IMTA World in Singapore, Nov 2006.
 
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Dalhousie Road 
Dalkeith Scotland EH22 3NX

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Subject: Re: [MI-L] Feature Wish List

I've been watching the Feature... thread and don't recall this one little
item...


That is to add the [IF] functionality to SQL capabilities of the Query and
Label builders

Ex:

IF (FEATURE LIKE Mapinfo adds IF and other functionality and fixes),

   Print(Happy Mapinfo Customer +chr$(10)+ Happily Upgrades more often)

Else Print(Continue to just make do with the old version you're running)


Dave

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RE: [MI-L] Feature Wish List

2006-10-25 Thread Peter Horsbøll Møller
How about a more Excel like browser window 
- sort the values simpky by clicking in the header.
- move around with the arrow keys
- select mulitple cells across rows and records
- ...

More or less what some of us already have seen in the Grande Project.

Peter Horsbøll Møller
GIS Developer, MTM
Geographical Information  IT
 
COWI A/S
Odensevej 95
DK-5260 Odense S.
Denmark
 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:36 PM
To: 'Mapinfo-L'
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I think the text labelling and the layouts require upgrading. Neither has been 
touched for years and they have slipped behind. For example you always seem to 
have to have a bit of a fight with the frames to get the map at the correct 
display scale, and the legends often don't display correctly. On the label 
front some more intelligence about fitting the names in (see MAPublisher 
Version 7 for example which now has the option to fit the label within the 
polygon or onto the base line by adjusting the font and letter spacing), and 
proper curved text.

Regards

Tim


Dr Tim Rideout
Director
 
Visit XYZ at the Frankfurt Book Fair, Oct 4 - 8th 2006, Intergeo Munich Oct 
10-13th 2006 or IMTA World in Singapore, Nov 2006.
 
The XYZ Digital Map Company
Unit 9 Phase 2 Hardengreen Business Park Dalhousie Road Dalkeith Scotland EH22 
3NX

Tel +44 131 454 0426

Fax +44 131 454 0443

Mobile + 44 7766 825937

E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Sent: 25 October 2006 07:49
To: 'Mapinfo-L'
Subject: Re: [MI-L] Feature Wish List

I've been watching the Feature... thread and don't recall this one little 
item...


That is to add the [IF] functionality to SQL capabilities of the Query and 
Label builders

Ex:

IF (FEATURE LIKE Mapinfo adds IF and other functionality and fixes),

   Print(Happy Mapinfo Customer +chr$(10)+ Happily Upgrades more often)

Else Print(Continue to just make do with the old version you're running)


Dave

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RE: [MI-L] feature wish list - Vertical Mapper

2006-10-24 Thread Lawley, Russell S

Flavio, 
I agree with your sentiments...but thats just the point of my request... in 
many respects VM is past it (3d! ho ho)..so why not bundle it in and let some 
MI-users carry forward the development..if we could have 'Engage' than that 
would be excellent..but Engage is a maintained (and valuable)  product ... i 
actually EXPECT to pay extra for that..(and to be honest,  as limited at VM may 
be i still use it in preference to the esri equivalents ..and they are still 
£! (and have you seen esri's contouring  eeuw!)...  so getting it bundled 
would be a true 'value-adding' exercise by MI corp and one that they could 
afford..)


Russel Lawley


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Subject: RE: [MI-L] feature wish list - Vertical Mapper


Hi all

there is the often mentioned wish to integrate Vertical Mapper. I wonder
why, as this products is completely outdated and full of bugs, such as:
- does not work at all on large datasets
- vectorizing of contours and slope etc. does not work or is extremely
slow, results are poor (compared with i.e. Engage 3D, extremely fast and
creating smooth and gorgeous contours, as well on extremely large
datasets) 
- import often does not work
- 3D capabilities are useless
- and and and ...

I think there was no development on it since at least five years. This
thing is dead!

If integrate something useful, then Engage 3D pleas, which is a full
fledge 3D product. See http://www.encom.com.au/template2.asp?pageid=24.

Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards
Flavio Hendry


TYDAC Web-Site:  http://www.tydac.ch
TYDAC MapServer: http://www.mapserver.ch

  Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Vedr.: RE: [MI-L] feature wish list - Vertical Mapper

2006-10-24 Thread Ole Gregor
Hi

I agree that VM is a dated product and that it’s necessary with
improvements, but it’s still better than most of it rivals (especially the
point aggregation, coincident point handling, HUFF, region/point analysis
and a qualified dialog in Kriging).

The interpolation of very large dataset is a limitation and where there is
room for other programs like Anudem, Engage etc., but both has other
limitations

Streambuilder has filled the lack of hydrological possibilities, but VM
could continue to be a valuable tool if they fixed the bugs and added a few
improvements:

One is easy automation and integration in the Mapbasic environment
Another is filters (e.g. 3’3 smoothing or sharpening)
Another is easier work with classified Grid
Another is CoKriging
Another is better import and export (more formats – especially Idrisi,
ER-Mapper and other classifications programs)
Another is dynamic hill shading like ER-mapper (it’s a very powerful way to
investigate structures in a dataset)
And of course better 2½ D view (and even simple flythrough like the old
Virtual Frontier)

Ole Gregor,
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Flavio,
I agree with your sentiments...but thats just the point of my request... in
many respects VM is past it (3d! ho ho)..so why not bundle it in and let
some MI-users carry forward the development..if we could have 'Engage' than
that would be excellent..but Engage is a maintained (and valuable)  product
... i actually EXPECT to pay extra for that..(and to be honest,  as limited
at VM may be i still use it in preference to the esri equivalents ..and
they are still £! (and have you seen esri's contouring  eeuw!)...  so
getting it bundled would be a true 'value-adding' exercise by MI corp and
one that they could afford..)


Russel Lawley


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Subject: RE: [MI-L] feature wish list - Vertical Mapper


Hi all

there is the often mentioned wish to integrate Vertical Mapper. I wonder
why, as this products is completely outdated and full of bugs, such as:
- does not work at all on large datasets
- vectorizing of contours and slope etc. does not work or is extremely
slow, results are poor (compared with i.e. Engage 3D, extremely fast and
creating smooth and gorgeous contours, as well on extremely large
datasets)
- import often does not work
- 3D capabilities are useless
- and and and ...

I think there was no development on it since at least five years. This
thing is dead!

If integrate something useful, then Engage 3D pleas, which is a full
fledge 3D product. See http://www.encom.com.au/template2.asp?pageid=24.

Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards
Flavio Hendry


TYDAC Web-Site:  http://www.tydac.ch
TYDAC MapServer: http://www.mapserver.ch

  Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards
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RE: [MI-L] Feature Wish List - Geodatabase Translator

2006-10-24 Thread SCISOFT








For the ESRI Personal Geodatabase, does FWTools (ie, OGC and the
PGeo driver) do more than get into the MDB file by ODBC and extract SHP files? 

The description (at http://www.gdal.org/ogr/drv_pgeo.html)
isn't very informative: 

ESRI Personal GeoDatabase

OGR
optionally supports reading ESRI Personal GeoDatabase .mdb files via ODBC.
Personal GeoDatabase is a Microsoft Access database with a set of tables
defined by ESRI for holding geodatabase metadata, and with geometry for
features held in a BLOB column in a custom format (essentially Shapefile
geometry fragments). This drivers accesses the personal geodatabase via ODBC
but does not depend on any ESRI middle-ware.



Personal
Geodatabases are accessed by passing the file name of the .mdb file to be accessed
as the data source name. No ODBC DSN is required.



OGR
treats all feature tables as layers. Most geometry types should be supported,
including 3D data. Measures information will be discarded. Coordinate system
information should be properly associated with layers.



Currently
the OGR Personal Geodatabase driver does not take advantage of spatial indexes
for fast spatial queries, though that may be added in the future.



I read that to get into the ESRI Personal Geodatabase with (?)
Linux / Unix requires the unixODBC driver to be installed (which may be why
Bill Thoen couldn't get it to work). 

IL Thomas

GeoSciSoft - Perth, Australia



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On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 05:55:20PM -0400, Mike Osbourn
wrote:

 I think that the FME product (of which Universal
Translator is a subset)

 requires an ESRI product installed on the client
for GeoDatabase

 translation.

 

 I would love to be corrected on this if I'm
wrong.



I think it needs an Access dll. When I installed the
Win32 version of the

Open Source tool FWTools I was able to translate
Geodatabase files, but the

Linux version of FWTools does not work. I don't have
any ESRI software on

my XP systems, but that translator seems to work
there, so my guess is that

you don't need any.

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RE: [MI-L] feature wish list - Vertical Mapper

2006-10-23 Thread Flavio Hendry
Hi all

there is the often mentioned wish to integrate Vertical Mapper. I wonder
why, as this products is completely outdated and full of bugs, such as:
- does not work at all on large datasets
- vectorizing of contours and slope etc. does not work or is extremely
slow, results are poor (compared with i.e. Engage 3D, extremely fast and
creating smooth and gorgeous contours, as well on extremely large
datasets) 
- import often does not work
- 3D capabilities are useless
- and and and ...

I think there was no development on it since at least five years. This
thing is dead!

If integrate something useful, then Engage 3D pleas, which is a full
fledge 3D product. See http://www.encom.com.au/template2.asp?pageid=24.

Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards
Flavio Hendry


TYDAC Web-Site:  http://www.tydac.ch
TYDAC MapServer: http://www.mapserver.ch

  Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards
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Re: [MI-L] feature wish list

2006-10-22 Thread Data Directions
Further to Richards observation, I also agree that MapInfo should provide 
the MapInfo-L community with their proposed plans for MapInfo, especially 
since myself (and others) decided to subscribe to the annual maintenance 
program primarily because of the imminent arrival of Grande.


One of the key selling pitches (though not in an overt way) used at a user 
group meeting in June (or so) 2005, was that users on the maintenance plan 
would receive a beta version of Grande later in the year. Of course that 
didn't eventuate, but was one of my main reasons for my upgrading to the 
current release at that user group and then joining the annual maintenance 
plan.


As with other comments on the list, I would like to see some significant 
changes to the product, especially in the area of producing professional 
cartographic output, with minimal output. Encom's Discover (an add-on for 
MapInfo) has certainly made life a lot easier with its Scaled Output, Legend 
creation and numerous text utilities, mainly because of a series of 
excellent descriptive dialog boxes with pulldowns that allow the user to 
achieve a good result. Although I have not used it, I have heard from fellow 
GIS'ers that ArcGIS map production capabilities are absolutely fantastic 
 certainly looking at the annual ESRI Map book that is produced speaks 
for itself.


My MapInfo 9.0 feature list would include the following:

- 7 parameter transformation for Australia GDA94 (3 parameter just doesn't 
cut it)

- improved text labelling
- improved scaled output functionality (including overlay grids, titleblocks 
and company logos)
- fixing the bug of having a layer close or browser close when doing a 
Table  Maintenance operation
- fixing the new 8.5 zoom to objects extent when doing a copy/paste 
operation (a real bugger with text labels)
- remember several previous views that you can navigate back through (not 
just the current one-only)
- if editing several layers at once, an easy method to change editable and 
selectable layers (maybe mouse control functionality?)
- expanding the 256 colour palette to one where you can easily define 
additional colour schemes and have 512, 1024 colours ...
- add the ability to bring across ArcGIS polygon colours (it can be done as 
one fellow in Queensland has written a program that does it and sells it for 
about $ 200 Australian)
- better table update functionality so that if you are doing numerous 
queries and table updates, you don't accidentally overwrite the master data 
(something Data Assistant does quite well ... yes I know, a plug for my own 
MapInfo add-on)
- when writing an expression for labelling or thematic mapping, offer a 
function to save the expression (currently have to copy and paste to/from a 
Wordpad document)
- implement significantly better error handing functionality when writing 
SQL queries or label expressions so that the obscure Syntax Error - Please 
correct message does not appear. For the average user, this message doesn't 
tell them what to fix. Again third party add-ons such as Discover and Data 
Assistant offer behind the scenes data validation as the expression is being 
constructed.
- remove the comma which appears in columns defined as small integer or 
integer (at least have it as a preference to be set of not)
- remove the useless error message when creating points that occurs when you 
pulldown the X-column, and the same column is listed (by default) for the 
Y-column. This occurs because MapInfo displays the first two numeric columns 
it encounters in a table. However if the first numeric column contains 
Sample numbers and the second numeric column contains Longitude it ticks me 
off to no end to change Sample numbers to Longitude (which by default sits 
in the Y-column) and have MapInfo ask Use same column for X and Y field 
and then change the Y column anyway because if you click No, it boots you 
out and expects you to change the Y value first.


Anyway, enough rambling for a Sunday arvo ... time to go to the local pub 
for a brewski.


Cheers,

Bill

=
I commend all of the entusiasm, but let's get real. MI abandoned
'Grande' because they are adandoning their desktop product. Like have
we heard a beep from MI regarding any future plans for MI Pro?

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Re: [MI-L] Feature Wish List

2006-10-22 Thread Richard Greenwood

On 10/22/06, Chuck Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mat Elfstrőm's wish list specifies two items I think are essential. Routing
capabilities and adding MapBasic to the core product. I think the Universal
Translator should be updated and provisions made to allow import and export
of ESRI's new geodatabase file format.


ESRI's personal geodatabase format is not exactly 'new', it is
actually being phased out, starting in 9.2 with a new file-based
format. The personal geodatabase (not to be confused with SDE) is
built on the Microsoft Access MDB format. ERSI is moving toward a new,
proprietary, file-based personal geodatabase format.

As Bill T. pointed out, FW Tools supports the current MDB geodatabase
format (Although I have not tried it myself).

And just for the record, I second the motion to include an MB compiler
w/ MI Pro.

Rich

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Re: [MI-L] Feature Wish List

2006-10-22 Thread Eric Gagnon




About universal translator.. I wonder if MapInfo could strike a deal
with safe software..  http://www.safe.com/
Although I've never tried FME I have heard very positive feedback from
users. 

I sure hope MI corporation will take this list seriously. 
After all this list should be considered high priority by MI when it
come to feedback or even reporting bugs..

Come to think of it, people from the RD dept. at MI corp. who
monitor this list can use this info to improve their software.
We could be considered like testing mice in a laboratory..You can learn
alot from mice like us. It's a great ressource fro MI. 
Like I said the other day in another posting: Alot of people in this
list are very "Hardcore Users" and most of us will upgrade are licenses
every year or a every major upgrade.
keep the positive feedback and suggestions comming!!

just my 2 cents..

Regards, 

Eric
Eric Gagnon, B.Sc.
Maptica
www.maptica.com


Chuck Lockwood wrote:

  Mat Elfstrőm's wish list specifies two items I think are essential. Routing
capabilities and adding MapBasic to the core product. I think the Universal
Translator should be updated and provisions made to allow import and export
of ESRI's new geodatabase file format. 

Chuck Lockwood

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Hi All!

Adding to the wish list, which I feel is of utmost importance if MapInfo
Corp really wants to enhance the next release (if Project Grande has made
its grand exit). 
I think there are those who are fed up with upgrades which only add cosmetic
changes. They really must make it worthwhile to continue upgrading. Else I
fear some users will look at alternative platforms.

1 Incorporate Vertical Mapper in the core product MapInfo Pro (and the sdk
into MapBasic).
2 Add routing capabilities (route mapper or something) to the core product.
3 Add MapBasic to the core product.

By doing this, Mi Corp would give upgrading users some real and useful value
on  their chosen platform, and maybe even gain one or two new users at the
same time.
Their latest effort, Envinsa,  seems to be very US centric as many other
additions have been lately. 
Us Swedes have been struck twice by language specific changes, and I am not
sure if Universal Translator has been brought up to speed in version 8.5.
My point is that if you aim to an international market, efforts should be
international and not confined to the American market.

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On 10/21/06, Mats Elfstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
Hi All!

Adding to the wish list, which I feel is of utmost importance if 
MapInfo Corp really wants to enhance the next release (if Project 
Grande has made its grand exit).
I think there are those who are fed up with upgr

RE: [MI-L] Feature Wish List

2006-10-22 Thread Mike Osbourn
I think that the FME product (of which Universal Translator is a subset)
requires an ESRI product installed on the client for GeoDatabase
translation.

I would love to be corrected on this if I'm wrong.

Mike Osbourn


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Mat Elfstrőm's wish list specifies two items I think are essential. Routing
capabilities and adding MapBasic to the core product. I think the Universal
Translator should be updated and provisions made to allow import and export
of ESRI's new geodatabase file format. 

Chuck Lockwood

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   1. RE: feature wish list (Mats Elfstr?m)
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Hi All!

Adding to the wish list, which I feel is of utmost importance if MapInfo
Corp really wants to enhance the next release (if Project Grande has made
its grand exit). 
I think there are those who are fed up with upgrades which only add cosmetic
changes. They really must make it worthwhile to continue upgrading. Else I
fear some users will look at alternative platforms.

1 Incorporate Vertical Mapper in the core product MapInfo Pro (and the sdk
into MapBasic).
2 Add routing capabilities (route mapper or something) to the core product.
3 Add MapBasic to the core product.

By doing this, Mi Corp would give upgrading users some real and useful value
on  their chosen platform, and maybe even gain one or two new users at the
same time.
Their latest effort, Envinsa,  seems to be very US centric as many other
additions have been lately. 
Us Swedes have been struck twice by language specific changes, and I am not
sure if Universal Translator has been brought up to speed in version 8.5.
My point is that if you aim to an international market, efforts should be
international and not confined to the American market.

Hdlsning Mats.E
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On 10/21/06, Mats Elfstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All!

 Adding to the wish list, which I feel is of utmost importance if 
 MapInfo Corp really wants to enhance the next release (if Project 
 Grande has made its grand exit).
 I think there are those who are fed up with upgrades which only add 
 cosmetic changes. They really must make it worthwhile to continue 
 upgrading. Else I fear some users will look at alternative platforms.

 1 Incorporate Vertical Mapper in the core product MapInfo Pro (and the 
 sdk into MapBasic).
 2 Add routing capabilities (route mapper or something) to the core
product.
 3 Add MapBasic to the core product.

 By doing this, Mi Corp would give upgrading users some real and useful 
 value on  their chosen platform, and maybe even gain one or two new 
 users at the same time.
 Their latest effort

Re: [MI-L] Feature Wish List - Geodatabase Translator

2006-10-22 Thread Bill Thoen
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 05:55:20PM -0400, Mike Osbourn wrote:
 I think that the FME product (of which Universal Translator is a subset)
 requires an ESRI product installed on the client for GeoDatabase
 translation.
 
 I would love to be corrected on this if I'm wrong.

I think it needs an Access dll. When I installed the Win32 version of the
Open Source tool FWTools I was able to translate Geodatabase files, but the
Linux version of FWTools does not work. I don't have any ESRI software on
my XP systems, but that translator seems to work there, so my guess is that
you don't need any.
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Re: [MI-L] feature wish list

2006-10-21 Thread Bill Thoen
On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 12:27:35PM +0100, Lawley, Russell S wrote:
 heres mine:

 better pattern/colour /font support for all objects 

 some proper tools for making layouts that dont look like they have been
 drawn by an amatuer with a crayon(including proper map-graticules and
 wysiwyg legends)

 legends that are easier to build, dynamic, show map-visible only content
 and are at last, bug free

YES! Down with crayons and maps that look like 'toons! Up with maps as art!! 


 built in vertical mapper sdk into mapbasic

This is reasonable now that we don't have to worry about bringing VM into
the .NET environment. The VM SDK needs a bit of an overhaul anyway.

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RE: [MI-L] feature wish list

2006-10-21 Thread Mats Elfström
Hi All!

Adding to the wish list, which I feel is of utmost importance if MapInfo
Corp
really wants to enhance the next release (if Project Grande has made its
grand exit). 
I think there are those who are fed up with upgrades which only add cosmetic
changes. They really must make it worthwhile to continue upgrading. Else I
fear some users will look at alternative platforms.

1 Incorporate Vertical Mapper in the core product MapInfo Pro (and the sdk
into MapBasic).
2 Add routing capabilities (route mapper or something) to the core product.
3 Add MapBasic to the core product.

By doing this, Mi Corp would give upgrading users some real and useful value
on  their chosen platform, and maybe even gain one or two new users at the
same time.
Their latest effort, Envinsa,  seems to be very US centric as many other
additions have been lately. 
Us Swedes have been struck twice by language specific changes, and I am not
sure if Universal Translator has been brought up to speed in version 8.5.
My point is that if you aim to an international market, efforts should be
international and not confined to the American market.

Hälsning Mats.E
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On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 12:27:35PM +0100, Lawley, Russell S wrote:
 heres mine:

 better pattern/colour /font support for all objects 

 some proper tools for making layouts that dont look like they have been
 drawn by an amatuer with a crayon(including proper map-graticules and
 wysiwyg legends)

 legends that are easier to build, dynamic, show map-visible only content
 and are at last, bug free

YES! Down with crayons and maps that look like 'toons! Up with maps as art!!



 built in vertical mapper sdk into mapbasic

This is reasonable now that we don't have to worry about bringing VM into
the .NET environment. The VM SDK needs a bit of an overhaul anyway.

- Bill Thoen
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Re: [MI-L] feature wish list

2006-10-21 Thread Richard Greenwood

On 10/21/06, Mats Elfström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All!

Adding to the wish list, which I feel is of utmost importance if MapInfo
Corp
really wants to enhance the next release (if Project Grande has made its
grand exit).
I think there are those who are fed up with upgrades which only add cosmetic
changes. They really must make it worthwhile to continue upgrading. Else I
fear some users will look at alternative platforms.

1 Incorporate Vertical Mapper in the core product MapInfo Pro (and the sdk
into MapBasic).
2 Add routing capabilities (route mapper or something) to the core product.
3 Add MapBasic to the core product.

By doing this, Mi Corp would give upgrading users some real and useful value
on  their chosen platform, and maybe even gain one or two new users at the
same time.
Their latest effort, Envinsa,  seems to be very US centric as many other
additions have been lately.
Us Swedes have been struck twice by language specific changes, and I am not
sure if Universal Translator has been brought up to speed in version 8.5.
My point is that if you aim to an international market, efforts should be
international and not confined to the American market.

Hälsning Mats.E
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From: Bill Thoen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:23:24 +0200
Subject: Re: [MI-L] feature wish list
On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 12:27:35PM +0100, Lawley, Russell S wrote:
 heres mine:

 better pattern/colour /font support for all objects

 some proper tools for making layouts that dont look like they have been
 drawn by an amatuer with a crayon(including proper map-graticules and
 wysiwyg legends)

 legends that are easier to build, dynamic, show map-visible only content
 and are at last, bug free

YES! Down with crayons and maps that look like 'toons! Up with maps as art!!



 built in vertical mapper sdk into mapbasic

This is reasonable now that we don't have to worry about bringing VM into
the .NET environment. The VM SDK needs a bit of an overhaul anyway.


I commend all of the entusiasm, but let's get real. MI abandoned
'Grande' because they are adandoning their desktop product. Like have
we heard a beep from MI regarding any future plans for MI Pro?

Rich

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