Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
t;> >>> The submarine development team has completed the following >>> preparations: >>> >>> 1. Established a temporary test repository on Github. >>> >>> 2. Change the package name of hadoop submarine from >>> org.hadoop.submarine >>> >> to >>> >>> org.submarine >>> >>> 3. Combine the Linkedin/TonY code into the Hadoop submarine module; >>> >>> 4. On the Github docked travis-ci system, all test cases have been >>> >> tested; >>> >>> 5. Several Hadoop submarine users completed the system test using the >>> >> code >>> >>> in this repository. >>> >>> >>> >>> 赵欣 于2019年7月22日周一 上午9:38写道： >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I am a teacher at Southeast University (https://www.seu.edu.cn/). >>> We >>> >> are >>> >>>> a major in electrical engineering. Our teaching teams and students >>> use >>> >>>> bigoop submarine for big data analysis and automation control of >>> >>> electrical >>> >>>> equipment. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many thanks to the hadoop community for providing us with machine >>> >>> learning >>> >>>> tools like submarine. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I wish hadoop submarine is getting better and better. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> == >>> >>>> 赵欣 >>> >>>> 东南大学电气工程学院 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> - >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Zhao XIN >>> >>>> >>> >>>> School of Electrical Engineering >>> >>>> >>> >>>> == >>> >>>> 2019-07-18 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> *From:* Xun Liu >>> >>>> *Date:* 2019-07-18 09:46 >>> >>>> *To:* xinzhao >>> >>>> *Subject:* Fwd: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache >>> >>>> project? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- Forwarded message - >>> >>>> 发件人： dashuiguailu...@gmail.com >>> >>>> Date: 2019年7月17日周三 下午3:17 >>> >>>> Subject: Re: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache >>> >> project? >>> >>>> To: Szilard Nemeth , runlin zhang < >>> >>>> runlin...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> Cc: Xun Liu , common-dev < >>> >>> common-...@hadoop.apache.org>, >>> >>>> yarn-dev , hdfs-dev < >>> >>>> hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org>, mapreduce-dev < >>> >>>> mapreduce-dev@hadoop.apache.org>, submarine-dev < >>> >>>> submarine-...@hadoop.apache.org> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> +1 ，Good idea, we are very much looking forward to it. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> dashuiguailu...@gmail.com >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> *From:* Szilard Nemeth >>> >>>> *Date:* 2019-07-17 14:55 >>> >>>> *To:* runlin zhang >>> >>>> *CC:* Xun Liu ; Hadoop Common >>> >>>> ; yarn-dev < >>> yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org>; >>> >>>> Hdfs-dev ; mapreduce-dev >>> >>>> ; submarine-dev >>> >>>> >>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache >>> project? >>> >>>> +1, this is a very great idea. >>> >>>> As Hadoop repository has already grown huge and contains many >>> >> projects, I >>> >>>> think in general it's a good idea to separate projects in the early >>> >>> phase. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 08:50 runlin zhang >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> +1 ，That will be great ！ >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> 在 2019年7月10日，下午3:34，Xun Liu 写道： >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> This is Xun Liu contributing to the Submarine project for deep >>> >>> learning >>> >>>>>> workloads running with big data workloads together on Hadoop >>> >>> clusters. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> There are a bunch of integrations of Submarine to other projects >>> >> are >>> >>>>>> finished or going on, such as Apache Zeppelin, TonY, Azkaban. The >>> >>> next >>> >>>>> step >>> >>>>>> of Submarine is going to integrate with more projects like Apache >>> >>>> Arrow, >>> >>>>>> Redis, MLflow, etc. & be able to handle end-to-end machine >>> learning >>> >>> use >>> >>>>>> cases like model serving, notebook management, advanced training >>> >>>>>> optimizations (like auto parameter tuning, memory cache >>> >> optimizations >>> >>>> for >>> >>>>>> large datasets for training, etc.), and make it run on other >>> >>> platforms >>> >>>>> like >>> >>>>>> Kubernetes or natively on Cloud. LinkedIn also wants to donate >>> TonY >>> >>>>> project >>> >>>>>> to Apache so we can put Submarine and TonY together to the same >>> >>>> codebase >>> >>>>>> (Page #30. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> https://www.slideshare.net/xkrogen/hadoop-meetup-jan-2019-tony-tensorflow-on-yarn-and-beyond#30 >>> >>>>>> ). >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> This expands the scope of the original Submarine project in >>> >> exciting >>> >>>> new >>> >>>>>> ways. Toward that end, would it make sense to create a separate >>> >>>> Submarine >>> >>>>>> project at Apache? This can make faster adoption of Submarine, and >>> >>>> allow >>> >>>>>> Submarine to grow to a full-blown machine learning platform. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> There will be lots of technical details to work out, but any >>> >> initial >>> >>>>>> thoughts on this? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Best Regards, >>> >>>>>> Xun Liu >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> - >>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: common-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org >>> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: common-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: yarn-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: yarn-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org >>> >>>
Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
> >>>> I am a teacher at Southeast University (https://www.seu.edu.cn/). We >> >> are >> >>>> a major in electrical engineering. Our teaching teams and students >> use >> >>>> bigoop submarine for big data analysis and automation control of >> >>> electrical >> >>>> equipment. >> >>>> >> >>>> Many thanks to the hadoop community for providing us with machine >> >>> learning >> >>>> tools like submarine. >> >>>> >> >>>> I wish hadoop submarine is getting better and better. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> == >> >>>> 赵欣 >> >>>> 东南大学电气工程学院 >> >>>> >> >>>> - >> >>>> >> >>>> Zhao XIN >> >>>> >> >>>> School of Electrical Engineering >> >>>> >> >>>> == >> >>>> 2019-07-18 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> *From:* Xun Liu >> >>>> *Date:* 2019-07-18 09:46 >> >>>> *To:* xinzhao >> >>>> *Subject:* Fwd: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache >> >>>> project? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- Forwarded message - >> >>>> 发件人： dashuiguailu...@gmail.com >> >>>> Date: 2019年7月17日周三 下午3:17 >> >>>> Subject: Re: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache >> >> project? >> >>>> To: Szilard Nemeth , runlin zhang < >> >>>> runlin...@gmail.com> >> >>>> Cc: Xun Liu , common-dev < >> >>> common-...@hadoop.apache.org>, >> >>>> yarn-dev , hdfs-dev < >> >>>> hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org>, mapreduce-dev < >> >>>> mapreduce-dev@hadoop.apache.org>, submarine-dev < >> >>>> submarine-...@hadoop.apache.org> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> +1 ，Good idea, we are very much looking forward to it. >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> dashuiguailu...@gmail.com >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> *From:* Szilard Nemeth >> >>>> *Date:* 2019-07-17 14:55 >> >>>> *To:* runlin zhang >> >>>> *CC:* Xun Liu ; Hadoop Common >> >>>> ; yarn-dev > >; >> >>>> Hdfs-dev ; mapreduce-dev >> >>>> ; submarine-dev >> >>>> >> >>>> *Subject:* Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache >> project? >> >>>> +1, this is a very great idea. >> >>>> As Hadoop repository has already grown huge and contains many >> >> projects, I >> >>>> think in general it's a good idea to separate projects in the early >> >>> phase. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 08:50 runlin zhang >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> +1 ，That will be great ！ >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> 在 2019年7月10日，下午3:34，Xun Liu 写道： >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Hi all, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> This is Xun Liu contributing to the Submarine project for deep >> >>> learning >> >>>>>> workloads running with big data workloads together on Hadoop >> >>> clusters. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> There are a bunch of integrations of Submarine to other projects >> >> are >> >>>>>> finished or going on, such as Apache Zeppelin, TonY, Azkaban. The >> >>> next >> >>>>> step >> >>>>>> of Submarine is going to integrate with more projects like Apache >> >>>> Arrow, >> >>>>>> Redis, MLflow, etc. & be able to handle end-to-end machine learning >> >>> use >> >>>>>> cases like model serving, notebook management, advanced training >> >>>>>> optimizations (like auto parameter tuning, memory cache >> >> optimizations >> >>>> for >> >>>>>> large datasets for training, etc.), and make it run on other >> >>> platforms >> >>>>> like >> >>>>>> Kubernetes or natively on Cloud. LinkedIn also wants to donate TonY >> >>>>> project >> >>>>>> to Apache so we can put Submarine and TonY together to the same >> >>>> codebase >> >>>>>> (Page #30. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> https://www.slideshare.net/xkrogen/hadoop-meetup-jan-2019-tony-tensorflow-on-yarn-and-beyond#30 >> >>>>>> ). >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> This expands the scope of the original Submarine project in >> >> exciting >> >>>> new >> >>>>>> ways. Toward that end, would it make sense to create a separate >> >>>> Submarine >> >>>>>> project at Apache? This can make faster adoption of Submarine, and >> >>>> allow >> >>>>>> Submarine to grow to a full-blown machine learning platform. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> There will be lots of technical details to work out, but any >> >> initial >> >>>>>> thoughts on this? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Best Regards, >> >>>>>> Xun Liu >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> - >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: common-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: common-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: yarn-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: yarn-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org >> >>
Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
Thanks Vinod for these great suggestions. I agree most of your comments above. "For the Apache Hadoop community, this will be treated simply as code-change and so need a committer +1?". IIUC, this should be treated as feature branch merge, so may be 3 committer +1 is needed here according to https://hadoop.apache.org/bylaws.html? bq. Can somebody who have cycles and been on the ASF lists for a while look into the process here? I can check with ASF members who has experience on this if no one haven't yet. Thanks, Junping Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli 于2019年7月29日周一 下午9:46写道： > Looks like there's a meaningful push behind this. > > Given the desire is to fork off Apache Hadoop, you'd want to make sure > this enthusiasm turns into building a real, independent but more > importantly a sustainable community. > > Given that there were two official releases off the Apache Hadoop project, > I doubt if you'd need to go through the incubator process. Instead you can > directly propose a new TLP at ASF board. The last few times this happened > was with ORC, and long before that with Hive, HBase etc. Can somebody who > have cycles and been on the ASF lists for a while look into the process > here? > > For the Apache Hadoop community, this will be treated simply as > code-change and so need a committer +1? You can be more gently by formally > doing a vote once a process doc is written down. > > Back to the sustainable community point, as part of drafting this > proposal, you'd definitely want to make sure all of the Apache Hadoop > PMC/Committers can exercise their will to join this new project as > PMC/Committers respectively without any additional constraints. > > Thanks > +Vinod > > > On Jul 25, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Wangda Tan wrote: > > > > Thanks everybody for sharing your thoughts. I saw positive feedbacks from > > 20+ contributors! > > > > So I think we should move it forward, any suggestions about what we > should > > do? > > > > Best, > > Wangda > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 5:36 PM neo wrote: > > > >> +1, This is neo from TiDB & TiKV community. > >> Thanks Xun for bring this up. > >> > >> Our CNCF project's open source distributed KV storage system TiKV, > >> Hadoop submarine's machine learning engine helps us to optimize data > >> storage, > >> helping us solve some problems in data hotspots and data shuffers. > >> > >> We are ready to improve the performance of TiDB in our open source > >> distributed relational database TiDB and also using the hadoop submarine > >> machine learning engine. > >> > >> I think if submarine can be independent, it will develop faster and > better. > >> Thanks to the hadoop community for developing submarine! > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> neo > >> www.pingcap.com / https://github.com/pingcap/tidb / > >> https://github.com/tikv > >> > >> Xun Liu 于2019年7月22日周一 下午4:07写道： > >> > >>> @adam.antal > >>> > >>> The submarine development team has completed the following > preparations: > >>> 1. Established a temporary test repository on Github. > >>> 2. Change the package name of hadoop submarine from > org.hadoop.submarine > >> to > >>> org.submarine > >>> 3. Combine the Linkedin/TonY code into the Hadoop submarine module; > >>> 4. On the Github docked travis-ci system, all test cases have been > >> tested; > >>> 5. Several Hadoop submarine users completed the system test using the > >> code > >>> in this repository. > >>> > >>> 赵欣 于2019年7月22日周一 上午9:38写道： > >>> > >>>> Hi > >>>> > >>>> I am a teacher at Southeast University (https://www.seu.edu.cn/). We > >> are > >>>> a major in electrical engineering. Our teaching teams and students use > >>>> bigoop submarine for big data analysis and automation control of > >>> electrical > >>>> equipment. > >>>> > >>>> Many thanks to the hadoop community for providing us with machine > >>> learning > >>>> tools like submarine. > >>>> > >>>> I wish hadoop submarine is getting better and better. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> == > >>>> 赵欣 > >>>> 东南大学电气工程学院 > >>>> > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> Zhao XIN > &
Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
Thanks Vinod, the proposal to make it be TLP definitely a great suggestion. I will draft a proposal and keep the thread posted. Best, Wangda On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 3:46 PM Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli wrote: > Looks like there's a meaningful push behind this. > > Given the desire is to fork off Apache Hadoop, you'd want to make sure > this enthusiasm turns into building a real, independent but more > importantly a sustainable community. > > Given that there were two official releases off the Apache Hadoop project, > I doubt if you'd need to go through the incubator process. Instead you can > directly propose a new TLP at ASF board. The last few times this happened > was with ORC, and long before that with Hive, HBase etc. Can somebody who > have cycles and been on the ASF lists for a while look into the process > here? > > For the Apache Hadoop community, this will be treated simply as > code-change and so need a committer +1? You can be more gently by formally > doing a vote once a process doc is written down. > > Back to the sustainable community point, as part of drafting this > proposal, you'd definitely want to make sure all of the Apache Hadoop > PMC/Committers can exercise their will to join this new project as > PMC/Committers respectively without any additional constraints. > > Thanks > +Vinod > > > On Jul 25, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Wangda Tan wrote: > > > > Thanks everybody for sharing your thoughts. I saw positive feedbacks from > > 20+ contributors! > > > > So I think we should move it forward, any suggestions about what we > should > > do? > > > > Best, > > Wangda > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 5:36 PM neo wrote: > > > >> +1, This is neo from TiDB & TiKV community. > >> Thanks Xun for bring this up. > >> > >> Our CNCF project's open source distributed KV storage system TiKV, > >> Hadoop submarine's machine learning engine helps us to optimize data > >> storage, > >> helping us solve some problems in data hotspots and data shuffers. > >> > >> We are ready to improve the performance of TiDB in our open source > >> distributed relational database TiDB and also using the hadoop submarine > >> machine learning engine. > >> > >> I think if submarine can be independent, it will develop faster and > better. > >> Thanks to the hadoop community for developing submarine! > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> neo > >> www.pingcap.com / https://github.com/pingcap/tidb / > >> https://github.com/tikv > >> > >> Xun Liu 于2019年7月22日周一 下午4:07写道： > >> > >>> @adam.antal > >>> > >>> The submarine development team has completed the following > preparations: > >>> 1. Established a temporary test repository on Github. > >>> 2. Change the package name of hadoop submarine from > org.hadoop.submarine > >> to > >>> org.submarine > >>> 3. Combine the Linkedin/TonY code into the Hadoop submarine module; > >>> 4. On the Github docked travis-ci system, all test cases have been > >> tested; > >>> 5. Several Hadoop submarine users completed the system test using the > >> code > >>> in this repository. > >>> > >>> 赵欣 于2019年7月22日周一 上午9:38写道： > >>> > >>>> Hi > >>>> > >>>> I am a teacher at Southeast University (https://www.seu.edu.cn/). We > >> are > >>>> a major in electrical engineering. Our teaching teams and students use > >>>> bigoop submarine for big data analysis and automation control of > >>> electrical > >>>> equipment. > >>>> > >>>> Many thanks to the hadoop community for providing us with machine > >>> learning > >>>> tools like submarine. > >>>> > >>>> I wish hadoop submarine is getting better and better. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> == > >>>> 赵欣 > >>>> 东南大学电气工程学院 > >>>> > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> Zhao XIN > >>>> > >>>> School of Electrical Engineering > >>>> > >>>> == > >>>> 2019-07-18 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *From:* Xun Liu > >>>> *Date:* 2019-07-18 09:46 > >>>> *To:* xinzhao > >>>> *Subject:* Fwd:
Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
Looks like there's a meaningful push behind this. Given the desire is to fork off Apache Hadoop, you'd want to make sure this enthusiasm turns into building a real, independent but more importantly a sustainable community. Given that there were two official releases off the Apache Hadoop project, I doubt if you'd need to go through the incubator process. Instead you can directly propose a new TLP at ASF board. The last few times this happened was with ORC, and long before that with Hive, HBase etc. Can somebody who have cycles and been on the ASF lists for a while look into the process here? For the Apache Hadoop community, this will be treated simply as code-change and so need a committer +1? You can be more gently by formally doing a vote once a process doc is written down. Back to the sustainable community point, as part of drafting this proposal, you'd definitely want to make sure all of the Apache Hadoop PMC/Committers can exercise their will to join this new project as PMC/Committers respectively without any additional constraints. Thanks +Vinod > On Jul 25, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Wangda Tan wrote: > > Thanks everybody for sharing your thoughts. I saw positive feedbacks from > 20+ contributors! > > So I think we should move it forward, any suggestions about what we should > do? > > Best, > Wangda > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 5:36 PM neo wrote: > >> +1, This is neo from TiDB & TiKV community. >> Thanks Xun for bring this up. >> >> Our CNCF project's open source distributed KV storage system TiKV, >> Hadoop submarine's machine learning engine helps us to optimize data >> storage, >> helping us solve some problems in data hotspots and data shuffers. >> >> We are ready to improve the performance of TiDB in our open source >> distributed relational database TiDB and also using the hadoop submarine >> machine learning engine. >> >> I think if submarine can be independent, it will develop faster and better. >> Thanks to the hadoop community for developing submarine! >> >> Best Regards, >> neo >> www.pingcap.com / https://github.com/pingcap/tidb / >> https://github.com/tikv >> >> Xun Liu 于2019年7月22日周一 下午4:07写道： >> >>> @adam.antal >>> >>> The submarine development team has completed the following preparations: >>> 1. Established a temporary test repository on Github. >>> 2. Change the package name of hadoop submarine from org.hadoop.submarine >> to >>> org.submarine >>> 3. Combine the Linkedin/TonY code into the Hadoop submarine module; >>> 4. On the Github docked travis-ci system, all test cases have been >> tested; >>> 5. Several Hadoop submarine users completed the system test using the >> code >>> in this repository. >>> >>> 赵欣 于2019年7月22日周一 上午9:38写道： >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I am a teacher at Southeast University (https://www.seu.edu.cn/). We >> are >>>> a major in electrical engineering. Our teaching teams and students use >>>> bigoop submarine for big data analysis and automation control of >>> electrical >>>> equipment. >>>> >>>> Many thanks to the hadoop community for providing us with machine >>> learning >>>> tools like submarine. >>>> >>>> I wish hadoop submarine is getting better and better. >>>> >>>> >>>> == >>>> 赵欣 >>>> 东南大学电气工程学院 >>>> >>>> - >>>> >>>> Zhao XIN >>>> >>>> School of Electrical Engineering >>>> >>>> == >>>> 2019-07-18 >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Xun Liu >>>> *Date:* 2019-07-18 09:46 >>>> *To:* xinzhao >>>> *Subject:* Fwd: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache >>>> project? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Forwarded message - >>>> 发件人： dashuiguailu...@gmail.com >>>> Date: 2019年7月17日周三 下午3:17 >>>> Subject: Re: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache >> project? >>>> To: Szilard Nemeth , runlin zhang < >>>> runlin...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: Xun Liu , common-dev < >>> common-...@hadoop.apache.org>, >>>> yarn-dev , hdfs-dev < >>>> hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org>, mapreduce-dev < >>>> mapreduce-dev@hadoop.apache.org>, submarine-dev &l
Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
Thanks everybody for sharing your thoughts. I saw positive feedbacks from 20+ contributors! So I think we should move it forward, any suggestions about what we should do? Best, Wangda On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 5:36 PM neo wrote: > +1, This is neo from TiDB & TiKV community. > Thanks Xun for bring this up. > > Our CNCF project's open source distributed KV storage system TiKV, > Hadoop submarine's machine learning engine helps us to optimize data > storage, > helping us solve some problems in data hotspots and data shuffers. > > We are ready to improve the performance of TiDB in our open source > distributed relational database TiDB and also using the hadoop submarine > machine learning engine. > > I think if submarine can be independent, it will develop faster and better. > Thanks to the hadoop community for developing submarine! > > Best Regards, > neo > www.pingcap.com / https://github.com/pingcap/tidb / > https://github.com/tikv > > Xun Liu 于2019年7月22日周一 下午4:07写道： > > > @adam.antal > > > > The submarine development team has completed the following preparations: > > 1. Established a temporary test repository on Github. > > 2. Change the package name of hadoop submarine from org.hadoop.submarine > to > > org.submarine > > 3. Combine the Linkedin/TonY code into the Hadoop submarine module; > > 4. On the Github docked travis-ci system, all test cases have been > tested; > > 5. Several Hadoop submarine users completed the system test using the > code > > in this repository. > > > > 赵欣 于2019年7月22日周一 上午9:38写道： > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I am a teacher at Southeast University (https://www.seu.edu.cn/). We > are > > > a major in electrical engineering. Our teaching teams and students use > > > bigoop submarine for big data analysis and automation control of > > electrical > > > equipment. > > > > > > Many thanks to the hadoop community for providing us with machine > > learning > > > tools like submarine. > > > > > > I wish hadoop submarine is getting better and better. > > > > > > > > > == > > > 赵欣 > > > 东南大学电气工程学院 > > > > > > --------- > > > > > > Zhao XIN > > > > > > School of Electrical Engineering > > > > > > ========== > > > 2019-07-18 > > > > > > > > > *From:* Xun Liu > > > *Date:* 2019-07-18 09:46 > > > *To:* xinzhao > > > *Subject:* Fwd: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache > > > project? > > > > > > > > > -- Forwarded message - > > > 发件人： dashuiguailu...@gmail.com > > > Date: 2019年7月17日周三 下午3:17 > > > Subject: Re: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache > project? > > > To: Szilard Nemeth , runlin zhang < > > > runlin...@gmail.com> > > > Cc: Xun Liu , common-dev < > > common-...@hadoop.apache.org>, > > > yarn-dev , hdfs-dev < > > > hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org>, mapreduce-dev < > > > mapreduce-dev@hadoop.apache.org>, submarine-dev < > > > submarine-...@hadoop.apache.org> > > > > > > > > > +1 ，Good idea, we are very much looking forward to it. > > > > > > -- > > > dashuiguailu...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > *From:* Szilard Nemeth > > > *Date:* 2019-07-17 14:55 > > > *To:* runlin zhang > > > *CC:* Xun Liu ; Hadoop Common > > > ; yarn-dev ; > > > Hdfs-dev ; mapreduce-dev > > > ; submarine-dev > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project? > > > +1, this is a very great idea. > > > As Hadoop repository has already grown huge and contains many > projects, I > > > think in general it's a good idea to separate projects in the early > > phase. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 08:50 runlin zhang wrote: > > > > > > > +1 ，That will be great ！ > > > > > > > > > 在 2019年7月10日，下午3:34，Xun Liu 写道： > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > This is Xun Liu contributing to the Submarine project for deep > > learning > > > > > workloads running with big data workloads together on Hadoop > > clusters. > > > > > > > > > &g
Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
@adam.antal The submarine development team has completed the following preparations: 1. Established a temporary test repository on Github. 2. Change the package name of hadoop submarine from org.hadoop.submarine to org.submarine 3. Combine the Linkedin/TonY code into the Hadoop submarine module; 4. On the Github docked travis-ci system, all test cases have been tested; 5. Several Hadoop submarine users completed the system test using the code in this repository. 赵欣 于2019年7月22日周一 上午9:38写道： > Hi > > I am a teacher at Southeast University (https://www.seu.edu.cn/). We are > a major in electrical engineering. Our teaching teams and students use > bigoop submarine for big data analysis and automation control of electrical > equipment. > > Many thanks to the hadoop community for providing us with machine learning > tools like submarine. > > I wish hadoop submarine is getting better and better. > > > == > 赵欣 > 东南大学电气工程学院 > > - > > Zhao XIN > > School of Electrical Engineering > > == > 2019-07-18 > > > *From:* Xun Liu > *Date:* 2019-07-18 09:46 > *To:* xinzhao > *Subject:* Fwd: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache > project? > > > ------ Forwarded message ----- > 发件人： dashuiguailu...@gmail.com > Date: 2019年7月17日周三 下午3:17 > Subject: Re: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project? > To: Szilard Nemeth , runlin zhang < > runlin...@gmail.com> > Cc: Xun Liu , common-dev , > yarn-dev , hdfs-dev < > hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org>, mapreduce-dev < > mapreduce-dev@hadoop.apache.org>, submarine-dev < > submarine-...@hadoop.apache.org> > > > +1 ，Good idea, we are very much looking forward to it. > > -- > dashuiguailu...@gmail.com > > > *From:* Szilard Nemeth > *Date:* 2019-07-17 14:55 > *To:* runlin zhang > *CC:* Xun Liu ; Hadoop Common > ; yarn-dev ; > Hdfs-dev ; mapreduce-dev > ; submarine-dev > > *Subject:* Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project? > +1, this is a very great idea. > As Hadoop repository has already grown huge and contains many projects, I > think in general it's a good idea to separate projects in the early phase. > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 08:50 runlin zhang wrote: > > > +1 ，That will be great ！ > > > > > 在 2019年7月10日，下午3:34，Xun Liu 写道： > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > This is Xun Liu contributing to the Submarine project for deep learning > > > workloads running with big data workloads together on Hadoop clusters. > > > > > > There are a bunch of integrations of Submarine to other projects are > > > finished or going on, such as Apache Zeppelin, TonY, Azkaban. The next > > step > > > of Submarine is going to integrate with more projects like Apache > Arrow, > > > Redis, MLflow, etc. & be able to handle end-to-end machine learning use > > > cases like model serving, notebook management, advanced training > > > optimizations (like auto parameter tuning, memory cache optimizations > for > > > large datasets for training, etc.), and make it run on other platforms > > like > > > Kubernetes or natively on Cloud. LinkedIn also wants to donate TonY > > project > > > to Apache so we can put Submarine and TonY together to the same > codebase > > > (Page #30. > > > > > > https://www.slideshare.net/xkrogen/hadoop-meetup-jan-2019-tony-tensorflow-on-yarn-and-beyond#30 > > > ). > > > > > > This expands the scope of the original Submarine project in exciting > new > > > ways. Toward that end, would it make sense to create a separate > Submarine > > > project at Apache? This can make faster adoption of Submarine, and > allow > > > Submarine to grow to a full-blown machine learning platform. > > > > > > There will be lots of technical details to work out, but any initial > > > thoughts on this? > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Xun Liu > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: common-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: common-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org > > > > > >
Re: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
+1 (non-binding). Good initiative! A question to someone who has more insight on this area: how much effort would that mean - besides the straightforward maven work (modifying the pom.xmls). On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:40 AM dashuiguailu...@gmail.com < dashuiguailu...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1.Submarine is already in use at our company（贝壳找房） and is performing. > Looking forward to the next step to provide more features > > > > dashuiguailu...@gmail.com > > From: Oliver Hu > Date: 2019-07-19 07:50 > To: Jeff Zhang > CC: sid yu; Xun Liu; Hadoop Common; yarn-dev; Hdfs-dev; mapreduce-dev; > submarine-dev > Subject: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project? > +1 (non-binding). Make Submarine a separate project would make it easier to > integrate with other components in the ML pipeline and expand cross > platform. > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 2:48 AM Jeff Zhang wrote: > > > +1， This is Jeff Zhang from Zeppelin community. > > Thanks Xun for bring this up. Submarine has been integrated into Zeppelin > > several months ago, and I already see some early adoption of that in > China. > > AI is fast growing area, I believe moving into a separate project would > be > > helpful for Submarine to catch up with the new trend of AI and release > more > > new features quickly than before. > > > > > > > > sid yu 于2019年7月18日周四 下午2:06写道： > > > > > +1 We are look forward to it. The idea is great. > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Xun Liu wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > This is Xun Liu contributing to the Submarine project for deep > learning > > > > workloads running with big data workloads together on Hadoop > clusters. > > > > > > > > There are a bunch of integrations of Submarine to other projects are > > > > finished or going on, such as Apache Zeppelin, TonY, Azkaban. The > next > > > step > > > > of Submarine is going to integrate with more projects like Apache > > Arrow, > > > > Redis, MLflow, etc. & be able to handle end-to-end machine learning > use > > > > cases like model serving, notebook management, advanced training > > > > optimizations (like auto parameter tuning, memory cache optimizations > > for > > > > large datasets for training, etc.), and make it run on other > platforms > > > like > > > > Kubernetes or natively on Cloud. LinkedIn also wants to donate TonY > > > project > > > > to Apache so we can put Submarine and TonY together to the same > > codebase > > > > (Page #30. > > > > > > > > > > https://www.slideshare.net/xkrogen/hadoop-meetup-jan-2019-tony-tensorflow-on-yarn-and-beyond#30 > > > > ). > > > > > > > > This expands the scope of the original Submarine project in exciting > > new > > > > ways. Toward that end, would it make sense to create a separate > > Submarine > > > > project at Apache? This can make faster adoption of Submarine, and > > allow > > > > Submarine to grow to a full-blown machine learning platform. > > > > > > > > There will be lots of technical details to work out, but any initial > > > > thoughts on this? > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Xun Liu > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: common-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: common-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards > > > > Jeff Zhang > > >
Re: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
+1.Submarine is already in use at our company（贝壳找房） and is performing. Looking forward to the next step to provide more features dashuiguailu...@gmail.com From: Oliver Hu Date: 2019-07-19 07:50 To: Jeff Zhang CC: sid yu; Xun Liu; Hadoop Common; yarn-dev; Hdfs-dev; mapreduce-dev; submarine-dev Subject: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project? +1 (non-binding). Make Submarine a separate project would make it easier to integrate with other components in the ML pipeline and expand cross platform. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 2:48 AM Jeff Zhang wrote: > +1， This is Jeff Zhang from Zeppelin community. > Thanks Xun for bring this up. Submarine has been integrated into Zeppelin > several months ago, and I already see some early adoption of that in China. > AI is fast growing area, I believe moving into a separate project would be > helpful for Submarine to catch up with the new trend of AI and release more > new features quickly than before. > > > > sid yu 于2019年7月18日周四 下午2:06写道： > > > +1 We are look forward to it. The idea is great. > > > > > On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Xun Liu wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > This is Xun Liu contributing to the Submarine project for deep learning > > > workloads running with big data workloads together on Hadoop clusters. > > > > > > There are a bunch of integrations of Submarine to other projects are > > > finished or going on, such as Apache Zeppelin, TonY, Azkaban. The next > > step > > > of Submarine is going to integrate with more projects like Apache > Arrow, > > > Redis, MLflow, etc. & be able to handle end-to-end machine learning use > > > cases like model serving, notebook management, advanced training > > > optimizations (like auto parameter tuning, memory cache optimizations > for > > > large datasets for training, etc.), and make it run on other platforms > > like > > > Kubernetes or natively on Cloud. LinkedIn also wants to donate TonY > > project > > > to Apache so we can put Submarine and TonY together to the same > codebase > > > (Page #30. > > > > > > https://www.slideshare.net/xkrogen/hadoop-meetup-jan-2019-tony-tensorflow-on-yarn-and-beyond#30 > > > ). > > > > > > This expands the scope of the original Submarine project in exciting > new > > > ways. Toward that end, would it make sense to create a separate > Submarine > > > project at Apache? This can make faster adoption of Submarine, and > allow > > > Submarine to grow to a full-blown machine learning platform. > > > > > > There will be lots of technical details to work out, but any initial > > > thoughts on this? > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Xun Liu > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: common-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: common-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org > > > > > > -- > Best Regards > > Jeff Zhang >
Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
+1， This is Jeff Zhang from Zeppelin community. Thanks Xun for bring this up. Submarine has been integrated into Zeppelin several months ago, and I already see some early adoption of that in China. AI is fast growing area, I believe moving into a separate project would be helpful for Submarine to catch up with the new trend of AI and release more new features quickly than before. sid yu 于2019年7月18日周四 下午2:06写道： > +1 We are look forward to it. The idea is great. > > > On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Xun Liu wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > This is Xun Liu contributing to the Submarine project for deep learning > > workloads running with big data workloads together on Hadoop clusters. > > > > There are a bunch of integrations of Submarine to other projects are > > finished or going on, such as Apache Zeppelin, TonY, Azkaban. The next > step > > of Submarine is going to integrate with more projects like Apache Arrow, > > Redis, MLflow, etc. & be able to handle end-to-end machine learning use > > cases like model serving, notebook management, advanced training > > optimizations (like auto parameter tuning, memory cache optimizations for > > large datasets for training, etc.), and make it run on other platforms > like > > Kubernetes or natively on Cloud. LinkedIn also wants to donate TonY > project > > to Apache so we can put Submarine and TonY together to the same codebase > > (Page #30. > > > https://www.slideshare.net/xkrogen/hadoop-meetup-jan-2019-tony-tensorflow-on-yarn-and-beyond#30 > > ). > > > > This expands the scope of the original Submarine project in exciting new > > ways. Toward that end, would it make sense to create a separate Submarine > > project at Apache? This can make faster adoption of Submarine, and allow > > Submarine to grow to a full-blown machine learning platform. > > > > There will be lots of technical details to work out, but any initial > > thoughts on this? > > > > Best Regards, > > Xun Liu > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: common-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: common-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org > > -- Best Regards Jeff Zhang
Re: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
+1 ，Good idea, we are very much looking forward to it. dashuiguailu...@gmail.com From: Szilard Nemeth Date: 2019-07-17 14:55 To: runlin zhang CC: Xun Liu; Hadoop Common; yarn-dev; Hdfs-dev; mapreduce-dev; submarine-dev Subject: Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project? +1, this is a very great idea. As Hadoop repository has already grown huge and contains many projects, I think in general it's a good idea to separate projects in the early phase. On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 08:50 runlin zhang wrote: > +1 ，That will be great ！ > > > 在 2019年7月10日，下午3:34，Xun Liu 写道： > > > > Hi all, > > > > This is Xun Liu contributing to the Submarine project for deep learning > > workloads running with big data workloads together on Hadoop clusters. > > > > There are a bunch of integrations of Submarine to other projects are > > finished or going on, such as Apache Zeppelin, TonY, Azkaban. The next > step > > of Submarine is going to integrate with more projects like Apache Arrow, > > Redis, MLflow, etc. & be able to handle end-to-end machine learning use > > cases like model serving, notebook management, advanced training > > optimizations (like auto parameter tuning, memory cache optimizations for > > large datasets for training, etc.), and make it run on other platforms > like > > Kubernetes or natively on Cloud. LinkedIn also wants to donate TonY > project > > to Apache so we can put Submarine and TonY together to the same codebase > > (Page #30. > > > https://www.slideshare.net/xkrogen/hadoop-meetup-jan-2019-tony-tensorflow-on-yarn-and-beyond#30 > > ). > > > > This expands the scope of the original Submarine project in exciting new > > ways. Toward that end, would it make sense to create a separate Submarine > > project at Apache? This can make faster adoption of Submarine, and allow > > Submarine to grow to a full-blown machine learning platform. > > > > There will be lots of technical details to work out, but any initial > > thoughts on this? > > > > Best Regards, > > Xun Liu > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: common-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: common-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org > >
Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
+1, this is a very great idea. As Hadoop repository has already grown huge and contains many projects, I think in general it's a good idea to separate projects in the early phase. On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 08:50 runlin zhang wrote: > +1 ，That will be great ！ > > > 在 2019年7月10日，下午3:34，Xun Liu 写道： > > > > Hi all, > > > > This is Xun Liu contributing to the Submarine project for deep learning > > workloads running with big data workloads together on Hadoop clusters. > > > > There are a bunch of integrations of Submarine to other projects are > > finished or going on, such as Apache Zeppelin, TonY, Azkaban. The next > step > > of Submarine is going to integrate with more projects like Apache Arrow, > > Redis, MLflow, etc. & be able to handle end-to-end machine learning use > > cases like model serving, notebook management, advanced training > > optimizations (like auto parameter tuning, memory cache optimizations for > > large datasets for training, etc.), and make it run on other platforms > like > > Kubernetes or natively on Cloud. LinkedIn also wants to donate TonY > project > > to Apache so we can put Submarine and TonY together to the same codebase > > (Page #30. > > > https://www.slideshare.net/xkrogen/hadoop-meetup-jan-2019-tony-tensorflow-on-yarn-and-beyond#30 > > ). > > > > This expands the scope of the original Submarine project in exciting new > > ways. Toward that end, would it make sense to create a separate Submarine > > project at Apache? This can make faster adoption of Submarine, and allow > > Submarine to grow to a full-blown machine learning platform. > > > > There will be lots of technical details to work out, but any initial > > thoughts on this? > > > > Best Regards, > > Xun Liu > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: common-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: common-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org > >
Re: Any thoughts making Submarine a separate Apache project?
+1 This is a fantastic recommendation. I can see the community grows fast and good collaborative, submarine can be an independent project at now, thanks for all contributors. FYI, Wanqiang Ji On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:34 PM Xun Liu wrote: > Hi all, > > This is Xun Liu contributing to the Submarine project for deep learning > workloads running with big data workloads together on Hadoop clusters. > > There are a bunch of integrations of Submarine to other projects are > finished or going on, such as Apache Zeppelin, TonY, Azkaban. The next step > of Submarine is going to integrate with more projects like Apache Arrow, > Redis, MLflow, etc. & be able to handle end-to-end machine learning use > cases like model serving, notebook management, advanced training > optimizations (like auto parameter tuning, memory cache optimizations for > large datasets for training, etc.), and make it run on other platforms like > Kubernetes or natively on Cloud. LinkedIn also wants to donate TonY project > to Apache so we can put Submarine and TonY together to the same codebase > (Page #30. > > https://www.slideshare.net/xkrogen/hadoop-meetup-jan-2019-tony-tensorflow-on-yarn-and-beyond#30 > ). > > This expands the scope of the original Submarine project in exciting new > ways. Toward that end, would it make sense to create a separate Submarine > project at Apache? This can make faster adoption of Submarine, and allow > Submarine to grow to a full-blown machine learning platform. > > There will be lots of technical details to work out, but any initial > thoughts on this? > > Best Regards, > Xun Liu >
