RE: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
Anyone got an extrude algorithm? That is, given a footprint and a few params (would need to define) a means to create multiple shapes. Steve From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Woodbridge [wood...@swoodbridge.com] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:01 PM To: Lime, Steve D (DNR) Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this? I like this idea, but anyway it is implemented I think it would be a good feature to have. Beyond OSM, I have run into quite a few people that are generating data sets with building outlines and some of them have height info. A lot of this data is getting generated from plot plans and tax roles where the number of floors is included which can be interpreted as height. -Steve Lime, Steve D (DNR) wrote: > Probably a bit of overkill for what amounts to a visual effect. I was > thinking about this a bit more this evening and wonder if we could > use the GEOMTRANSFORM functionality and create an "extrude" geometry > transform. A little trickier than the ones currently supported since > this one would produce multiple shapes rather than a single > multi-polygon. Would be kinda neat though and totally self contained. > Think about turning a line into a curtain for instance. > > Steve From: Jan Hartmann > [j.l.h.hartm...@uva.nl] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:31 AM To: > Lime, Steve D (DNR) Cc: Jackey Cheung; Lars Lingner; > mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can > map server do this? > > Looks a bit like Sketchup. How about a driver for Sketchup 3D? It has > already input- en output facilities for DXF and DEM > > Jan > > On 04/26/10 16:51, Lime, Steve D (DNR) wrote: > > I can't tell from the example but it doesn't look like the map itself > is oblique rather that the buildings are drawn in 2.5D. > > If so, this probably can be reduced to a data pre-processing > exercise. I created a small test case (see attached) where a the > pieces of a cube are drawn by MapServer. It was quick and dirty but > it shows MapServer can possibly render like the example you > referenced. Key is producing the cube (sides, top, and bottom) data. > I would expect that could be done ahead of time via a script where > you offset the footprint in the y direction by a height value and > then compute the sides- each as a separate shape. I suppose it would > be possible to create a plugin layer for this type of data (footprint > + height) but easiest route is probably data pre-processing > > Something to try anyway. > > Steve ___ From: > mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> > [mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org>] > On Behalf Of Jackey Cheung > [cheung.jac...@gmail.com<mailto:cheung.jac...@gmail.com>] Sent: > Monday, April 26, 2010 2:53 AM To: Lars Lingner Cc: > mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> > Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this? > > Your effect is shadow like effects, not the "cube" like effect. > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lars Lingner > mailto:m...@lingner.eu><mailto:m...@lingner.eu><mailto:m...@lingner.eu>> > wrote: Jackey Cheung schrieb: > > > Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, > except that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has > any idea which application can render this kind of image? > > > > > I got a similar result using opacity and offset with MapServer. See > image http://www.lingner.eu/mydownloads/pics/icc_building.png > > Lars > > ___ mapserver-users > mailing list > mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org><mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org><mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users > > > > > > > ___ mapserver-users > mailing list > mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users > > > ___ mapserver-users > mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
I like this idea, but anyway it is implemented I think it would be a good feature to have. Beyond OSM, I have run into quite a few people that are generating data sets with building outlines and some of them have height info. A lot of this data is getting generated from plot plans and tax roles where the number of floors is included which can be interpreted as height. -Steve Lime, Steve D (DNR) wrote: Probably a bit of overkill for what amounts to a visual effect. I was thinking about this a bit more this evening and wonder if we could use the GEOMTRANSFORM functionality and create an "extrude" geometry transform. A little trickier than the ones currently supported since this one would produce multiple shapes rather than a single multi-polygon. Would be kinda neat though and totally self contained. Think about turning a line into a curtain for instance. Steve From: Jan Hartmann [j.l.h.hartm...@uva.nl] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:31 AM To: Lime, Steve D (DNR) Cc: Jackey Cheung; Lars Lingner; mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this? Looks a bit like Sketchup. How about a driver for Sketchup 3D? It has already input- en output facilities for DXF and DEM Jan On 04/26/10 16:51, Lime, Steve D (DNR) wrote: I can't tell from the example but it doesn't look like the map itself is oblique rather that the buildings are drawn in 2.5D. If so, this probably can be reduced to a data pre-processing exercise. I created a small test case (see attached) where a the pieces of a cube are drawn by MapServer. It was quick and dirty but it shows MapServer can possibly render like the example you referenced. Key is producing the cube (sides, top, and bottom) data. I would expect that could be done ahead of time via a script where you offset the footprint in the y direction by a height value and then compute the sides- each as a separate shape. I suppose it would be possible to create a plugin layer for this type of data (footprint + height) but easiest route is probably data pre-processing Something to try anyway. Steve ___ From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> [mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org>] On Behalf Of Jackey Cheung [cheung.jac...@gmail.com<mailto:cheung.jac...@gmail.com>] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:53 AM To: Lars Lingner Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this? Your effect is shadow like effects, not the "cube" like effect. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lars Lingner mailto:m...@lingner.eu><mailto:m...@lingner.eu><mailto:m...@lingner.eu>> wrote: Jackey Cheung schrieb: Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, except that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has any idea which application can render this kind of image? I got a similar result using opacity and offset with MapServer. See image http://www.lingner.eu/mydownloads/pics/icc_building.png Lars ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org><mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org><mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
RE: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
Probably a bit of overkill for what amounts to a visual effect. I was thinking about this a bit more this evening and wonder if we could use the GEOMTRANSFORM functionality and create an "extrude" geometry transform. A little trickier than the ones currently supported since this one would produce multiple shapes rather than a single multi-polygon. Would be kinda neat though and totally self contained. Think about turning a line into a curtain for instance. Steve From: Jan Hartmann [j.l.h.hartm...@uva.nl] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:31 AM To: Lime, Steve D (DNR) Cc: Jackey Cheung; Lars Lingner; mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this? Looks a bit like Sketchup. How about a driver for Sketchup 3D? It has already input- en output facilities for DXF and DEM Jan On 04/26/10 16:51, Lime, Steve D (DNR) wrote: I can't tell from the example but it doesn't look like the map itself is oblique rather that the buildings are drawn in 2.5D. If so, this probably can be reduced to a data pre-processing exercise. I created a small test case (see attached) where a the pieces of a cube are drawn by MapServer. It was quick and dirty but it shows MapServer can possibly render like the example you referenced. Key is producing the cube (sides, top, and bottom) data. I would expect that could be done ahead of time via a script where you offset the footprint in the y direction by a height value and then compute the sides- each as a separate shape. I suppose it would be possible to create a plugin layer for this type of data (footprint + height) but easiest route is probably data pre-processing Something to try anyway. Steve ___ From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> [mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org>] On Behalf Of Jackey Cheung [cheung.jac...@gmail.com<mailto:cheung.jac...@gmail.com>] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:53 AM To: Lars Lingner Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this? Your effect is shadow like effects, not the "cube" like effect. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lars Lingner mailto:m...@lingner.eu><mailto:m...@lingner.eu><mailto:m...@lingner.eu>> wrote: Jackey Cheung schrieb: Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, except that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has any idea which application can render this kind of image? I got a similar result using opacity and offset with MapServer. See image http://www.lingner.eu/mydownloads/pics/icc_building.png Lars ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org><mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org><mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
Seems to be a good approach, though I haven't thought about this before. I think I'll try look further into this. Thanks for the hint :D On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Lime, Steve D (DNR) < steve.l...@state.mn.us> wrote: > I can't tell from the example but it doesn't look like the map itself is > oblique rather that the buildings are drawn in 2.5D. > > If so, this probably can be reduced to a data pre-processing exercise. I > created a small test case (see attached) where a the pieces of a cube are > drawn by MapServer. It was quick and dirty but it shows MapServer can > possibly render like the example you referenced. Key is producing the > cube (sides, top, and bottom) data. I would expect that could be done ahead > of time via a script where you offset the footprint in the y direction > by a height value and then compute the sides- each as a separate shape. I > suppose it would be possible to create a plugin layer for this type of > data (footprint + height) but easiest route is probably data > pre-processing > > Something to try anyway. > > Steve > ___ > From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [ > mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jackey Cheung [ > cheung.jac...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:53 AM > To: Lars Lingner > Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org > Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this? > > Your effect is shadow like effects, not the "cube" like effect. > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lars Lingner m...@lingner.eu>> wrote: > Jackey Cheung schrieb: > > Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, except > > that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has any idea > > which application can render this kind of image? > > > > I got a similar result using opacity and offset with MapServer. See > image http://www.lingner.eu/mydownloads/pics/icc_building.png > > Lars > > ___ > mapserver-users mailing list > mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users > > ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
Looks a bit like Sketchup. How about a driver for Sketchup 3D? It has already input- en output facilities for DXF and DEM Jan On 04/26/10 16:51, Lime, Steve D (DNR) wrote: I can't tell from the example but it doesn't look like the map itself is oblique rather that the buildings are drawn in 2.5D. If so, this probably can be reduced to a data pre-processing exercise. I created a small test case (see attached) where a the pieces of a cube are drawn by MapServer. It was quick and dirty but it shows MapServer can possibly render like the example you referenced. Key is producing the cube (sides, top, and bottom) data. I would expect that could be done ahead of time via a script where you offset the footprint in the y direction by a height value and then compute the sides- each as a separate shape. I suppose it would be possible to create a plugin layer for this type of data (footprint + height) but easiest route is probably data pre-processing Something to try anyway. Steve ___ From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jackey Cheung [cheung.jac...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:53 AM To: Lars Lingner Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this? Your effect is shadow like effects, not the "cube" like effect. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lars Lingnermailto:m...@lingner.eu>> wrote: Jackey Cheung schrieb: Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, except that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has any idea which application can render this kind of image? I got a similar result using opacity and offset with MapServer. See image http://www.lingner.eu/mydownloads/pics/icc_building.png Lars ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
Looks a bit like Sketchup. How about a driver for Sketchup 3D? It has already input- en output facilities for DXF and DEM Jan On 04/26/10 16:51, Lime, Steve D (DNR) wrote: I can't tell from the example but it doesn't look like the map itself is oblique rather that the buildings are drawn in 2.5D. If so, this probably can be reduced to a data pre-processing exercise. I created a small test case (see attached) where a the pieces of a cube are drawn by MapServer. It was quick and dirty but it shows MapServer can possibly render like the example you referenced. Key is producing the cube (sides, top, and bottom) data. I would expect that could be done ahead of time via a script where you offset the footprint in the y direction by a height value and then compute the sides- each as a separate shape. I suppose it would be possible to create a plugin layer for this type of data (footprint + height) but easiest route is probably data pre-processing Something to try anyway. Steve ___ From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jackey Cheung [cheung.jac...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:53 AM To: Lars Lingner Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this? Your effect is shadow like effects, not the "cube" like effect. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lars Lingnermailto:m...@lingner.eu>> wrote: Jackey Cheung schrieb: Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, except that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has any idea which application can render this kind of image? I got a similar result using opacity and offset with MapServer. See image http://www.lingner.eu/mydownloads/pics/icc_building.png Lars ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
RE: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
I can't tell from the example but it doesn't look like the map itself is oblique rather that the buildings are drawn in 2.5D. If so, this probably can be reduced to a data pre-processing exercise. I created a small test case (see attached) where a the pieces of a cube are drawn by MapServer. It was quick and dirty but it shows MapServer can possibly render like the example you referenced. Key is producing the cube (sides, top, and bottom) data. I would expect that could be done ahead of time via a script where you offset the footprint in the y direction by a height value and then compute the sides- each as a separate shape. I suppose it would be possible to create a plugin layer for this type of data (footprint + height) but easiest route is probably data pre-processing Something to try anyway. Steve ___ From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jackey Cheung [cheung.jac...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:53 AM To: Lars Lingner Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this? Your effect is shadow like effects, not the "cube" like effect. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lars Lingner mailto:m...@lingner.eu>> wrote: Jackey Cheung schrieb: > Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, except > that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has any idea > which application can render this kind of image? > I got a similar result using opacity and offset with MapServer. See image http://www.lingner.eu/mydownloads/pics/icc_building.png Lars ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users <> test.map Description: test.map ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
Hi, There is a site that renders isometric 3D maps from OpenStreetMap data with something called POV-Ray: http://osm.kyblsoft.cz/3dmapa/?zoom=17&lat=75.72102&lon=14.49848&layers= B -Jukka Rahkonen- Jackey Cheung wrote: Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, except that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has any idea which application can render this kind of image? ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
Your effect is shadow like effects, not the "cube" like effect. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lars Lingner wrote: > Jackey Cheung schrieb: > > Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, except > > that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has any idea > > which application can render this kind of image? > > > > I got a similar result using opacity and offset with MapServer. See > image http://www.lingner.eu/mydownloads/pics/icc_building.png > > Lars > > ___ > mapserver-users mailing list > mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users > ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
Jackey Cheung schrieb: > Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, except > that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has any idea > which application can render this kind of image? > I got a similar result using opacity and offset with MapServer. See image http://www.lingner.eu/mydownloads/pics/icc_building.png Lars ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
[mapserver-users] Can map server do this?
Just found a web site today. The map looks pretty like Google map, except that it's not on Google. Can map server do this? Or anyone has any idea which application can render this kind of image? <>___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
