Re: [MAPSERVER-USERS] PostGIS data in EPSG:31300 using for Google Maps overlay

2008-04-09 Thread cfb

Hi Steven,

I had the same problems, my data were in EPSG:23030 but when I wanted to
overlay my WMS in Google Earth, even If I'd included EPSG:4326 in the
wms_srs list, It showed a difference between my map and Google. So, first of
all, you must include the 4326 in your wms_srs list (in the header and in
the layers), then you must set EPSG:4326 as your projection object in the
header, leaving the layers projections as 31300, and then you must look at
the epsg file in the PROJ library (\\ms4w\proj\nad), because probably your
EPSG code (31300) asn't all the parameters needed to reproject correctly the
data...

Look something like +towgs84, and try to find some parameter that help
MapServer to reproject better the data...like this you won't have to
reproject your original data

Regards







gisaalter wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 I have some data in PostGIS I wish to overlay in Google Maps using WMS
 I'm using the same data in a mapserver application, where EPSG code
 31300 is used.
 Now for overlay in Google Maps, 4326 is required.
 I have made a copy of my map-file and specified 4326 as projection
 system.Yet, non of my data is showing up.
 
 Do I need to reproject my data for this use ? I thought PostGIS was
 capable of doing reprojection on the fly ?
 
 Can someone with some more experience help me out ?
 
 Thanks
 Steven
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Re: [MAPSERVER-USERS] PostGIS data in EPSG:31300 using for Google Maps overlay

2008-04-09 Thread Steven De Vriendt
thanks Carla, although I'm not sure about that last bit. So I have
searched for the epsg parameters of 31300 (Belge Lambert 72), and now
I have to add some parameters ? I'm not sure which parameters I have
to add/adjust..

31300 +proj=lcc +lat_1=49.84 +lat_2=51.16
+lat_0=90 +lon_0=4.3569397 +x_0=15.01256 +y_0=5400088.4378
+ellps=intl +units=m +no_defs  no_defs 

Thanks
Steven

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:04 AM, cfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi Steven,

  I had the same problems, my data were in EPSG:23030 but when I wanted to
  overlay my WMS in Google Earth, even If I'd included EPSG:4326 in the
  wms_srs list, It showed a difference between my map and Google. So, first of
  all, you must include the 4326 in your wms_srs list (in the header and in
  the layers), then you must set EPSG:4326 as your projection object in the
  header, leaving the layers projections as 31300, and then you must look at
  the epsg file in the PROJ library (\\ms4w\proj\nad), because probably your
  EPSG code (31300) asn't all the parameters needed to reproject correctly the
  data...

  Look something like +towgs84, and try to find some parameter that help
  MapServer to reproject better the data...like this you won't have to
  reproject your original data

  Regards









  gisaalter wrote:
  
   Hi list,
  
   I have some data in PostGIS I wish to overlay in Google Maps using WMS
   I'm using the same data in a mapserver application, where EPSG code
   31300 is used.
   Now for overlay in Google Maps, 4326 is required.
   I have made a copy of my map-file and specified 4326 as projection
   system.Yet, non of my data is showing up.
  
   Do I need to reproject my data for this use ? I thought PostGIS was
   capable of doing reprojection on the fly ?
  
   Can someone with some more experience help me out ?
  
   Thanks
   Steven

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Re: [mapserver-users] PostGIS data in EPSG:31300 using for Google Maps overlay

2008-04-09 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde

Hi Steven,
Just to add some thoughts:
As Brent suggests, both postgis and mapserver can reproject. What you 
are doing now is let postgis (or actually the proj-library that's doing 
the hardwork for the transform(..)-function). But mapserver is also able 
to do the 'on the fly' projection (and also using a proj-lib for that).


Difference for this two methods is that if you let mapserver do it, then 
you can use wms-service (one mapfile with one layer definition) be used 
for several different projection requests. So using brents example, you 
can do:


METADATA
  wms_title My WMS Server
  wms_srs   EPSG:4326 EPSG:28992 EPSG:900913 EPSG 31300
END
and mapserver has to know the 'native' projection as brent said:
LAYER
  ...
  PROJECTION
init=epsg:31300
  END
  ...
END
In this way mapserver's proj is doing the heavy lifting and you can use 
different clients using different projections to connect to the same wms 
service.


The tricky stuff here is to know which proj (or actually which epsg 
file) is used for which library/component. For example postgis has it's 
proj parameters in a table 'spatial_ref_sys', so when you want to use a 
exotic projection you have to add it here. But if you want to use this 
exotic projection for mapserver/ms4w, you have to add it to: 
C:\ms4w\proj\nad\epsg


Groet
Richard Duivenvoorde

Steven De Vriendt wrote:

Brent,

Maybe quite a basic question, but I'm not used to define my data
syntax as the one you propose.
Can you help me out with the gid declaration.
I'm quite confused what to fill in for gid

Do I leave it like it is and just write gid or doi I have
or do I have to define my primary key column (f.i.: tbl_b_cabu_pkey).

For both I get an error message, saying either column OID does not
exist or column tbl_b_cabu_pkey does not exist.
However there are both there...

DATA new_geom from (select gid, transform(the_geom,4326) as new_geom from
  table) as mytable using unique gid using srid=4326

Thanks for helping out !

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Steven De Vriendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Brent,

 Very, very usefull info. Thanks.  I was just about to reprojecting my data :-)
 I thought the SRID table was constrained to the geometry and you couldn't
 change it. Seems like that's why the 'virtual' table is there for. Ok,
 well, I'll give
 it a try. Thanks for your input !

 Regards,
 Steven



 On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Brent Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   --- Steven De Vriendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hi list,
   
I have some data in PostGIS I wish to overlay in Google Maps using WMS
I'm using the same data in a mapserver application, where EPSG code
31300 is used.
Now for overlay in Google Maps, 4326 is required.
I have made a copy of my map-file and specified 4326 as projection
system.Yet, non of my data is showing up.
   
Do I need to reproject my data for this use ? I thought PostGIS was
capable of doing reprojection on the fly ?
 
   Hi Steven,
 
   Both mapserver  POstGIS can reproject the data on the fly, but they need 
to be
   told the input  output projections.
 
   As your data is all displayed via mapserver, the instructions either way 
will
   be in your mapfile.
 
   To reproject using PostGIS, edit the SQL command in your data statement 
which
   retrieves the PostGIS data. You need to tell PostGIS to return a virtual 
table
   to mapserver, and transform the data to the required projection in this. 
Edit
   the data line in the layer something like this:
 
   DATA new_geom from (select gid, transform(the_geom,4326) as new_geom from
   table) as mytable using unique gid using srid=4326
 
 
   To reproject in mapserver, you need to set the main mapfile projection to
   EPSG:4326, using, in the global header part of the mapfile:
 
   UNITS DD
   PROJECTION
init=epsg:4326
   END
 
   In the METADATA section, you'll need to set the output projection for WMS, 
eg:
   METADATA
wms_title My WMS Server
wms_srs   EPSG:4326
   END
 
   Then in the layer definition, you specify the layer's native projection, so
   mapserver can reproject from one to the other:
 
   LAYER
...
PROJECTION
  init=epsg:31300
END
...
   END
 
   Note that to reproject in PostGIS, Proj.4 support must be compiled into
   PostGIS, and similarly for mapserver if you do the reprojection there. If 
you
   compiled these from source, this is not done by default,  you'll need to 
run
   configure with the appropriate flag. If you installed from a package, or on
   Windows, proj support is generally built in.
 
 
   HTH,
 
Brent Wood
 


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[mapserver-users] PostGIS data in EPSG:31300 using for Google Maps overlay

2008-04-08 Thread Steven De Vriendt
Hi list,

I have some data in PostGIS I wish to overlay in Google Maps using WMS
I'm using the same data in a mapserver application, where EPSG code
31300 is used.
Now for overlay in Google Maps, 4326 is required.
I have made a copy of my map-file and specified 4326 as projection
system.Yet, non of my data is showing up.

Do I need to reproject my data for this use ? I thought PostGIS was
capable of doing reprojection on the fly ?

Can someone with some more experience help me out ?

Thanks
Steven
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Re: [mapserver-users] PostGIS data in EPSG:31300 using for Google Maps overlay

2008-04-08 Thread Brent Wood

--- Steven De Vriendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 I have some data in PostGIS I wish to overlay in Google Maps using WMS
 I'm using the same data in a mapserver application, where EPSG code
 31300 is used.
 Now for overlay in Google Maps, 4326 is required.
 I have made a copy of my map-file and specified 4326 as projection
 system.Yet, non of my data is showing up.
 
 Do I need to reproject my data for this use ? I thought PostGIS was
 capable of doing reprojection on the fly ?

Hi Steven,

Both mapserver  POstGIS can reproject the data on the fly, but they need to be
told the input  output projections.

As your data is all displayed via mapserver, the instructions either way will
be in your mapfile. 

To reproject using PostGIS, edit the SQL command in your data statement which
retrieves the PostGIS data. You need to tell PostGIS to return a virtual table
to mapserver, and transform the data to the required projection in this. Edit
the data line in the layer something like this:

DATA new_geom from (select gid, transform(the_geom,4326) as new_geom from
table) as mytable using unique gid using srid=4326 


To reproject in mapserver, you need to set the main mapfile projection to
EPSG:4326, using, in the global header part of the mapfile:

UNITS DD
PROJECTION
  init=epsg:4326
END

In the METADATA section, you'll need to set the output projection for WMS, eg:
METADATA
  wms_title My WMS Server
  wms_srs   EPSG:4326
END

Then in the layer definition, you specify the layer's native projection, so
mapserver can reproject from one to the other:

LAYER
  ...
  PROJECTION
init=epsg:31300
  END
  ...
END

Note that to reproject in PostGIS, Proj.4 support must be compiled into
PostGIS, and similarly for mapserver if you do the reprojection there. If you
compiled these from source, this is not done by default,  you'll need to run
configure with the appropriate flag. If you installed from a package, or on
Windows, proj support is generally built in.


HTH,

  Brent Wood
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Re: [mapserver-users] PostGIS data in EPSG:31300 using for Google Maps overlay

2008-04-08 Thread Steven De Vriendt
Brent,

Very, very usefull info. Thanks.  I was just about to reprojecting my data :-)
I thought the SRID table was constrained to the geometry and you couldn't
change it. Seems like that's why the 'virtual' table is there for. Ok,
well, I'll give
it a try. Thanks for your input !

Regards,
Steven

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Brent Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  --- Steven De Vriendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi list,
  
   I have some data in PostGIS I wish to overlay in Google Maps using WMS
   I'm using the same data in a mapserver application, where EPSG code
   31300 is used.
   Now for overlay in Google Maps, 4326 is required.
   I have made a copy of my map-file and specified 4326 as projection
   system.Yet, non of my data is showing up.
  
   Do I need to reproject my data for this use ? I thought PostGIS was
   capable of doing reprojection on the fly ?

  Hi Steven,

  Both mapserver  POstGIS can reproject the data on the fly, but they need to 
 be
  told the input  output projections.

  As your data is all displayed via mapserver, the instructions either way will
  be in your mapfile.

  To reproject using PostGIS, edit the SQL command in your data statement which
  retrieves the PostGIS data. You need to tell PostGIS to return a virtual 
 table
  to mapserver, and transform the data to the required projection in this. Edit
  the data line in the layer something like this:

  DATA new_geom from (select gid, transform(the_geom,4326) as new_geom from
  table) as mytable using unique gid using srid=4326


  To reproject in mapserver, you need to set the main mapfile projection to
  EPSG:4326, using, in the global header part of the mapfile:

  UNITS DD
  PROJECTION
   init=epsg:4326
  END

  In the METADATA section, you'll need to set the output projection for WMS, 
 eg:
  METADATA
   wms_title My WMS Server
   wms_srs   EPSG:4326
  END

  Then in the layer definition, you specify the layer's native projection, so
  mapserver can reproject from one to the other:

  LAYER
   ...
   PROJECTION
 init=epsg:31300
   END
   ...
  END

  Note that to reproject in PostGIS, Proj.4 support must be compiled into
  PostGIS, and similarly for mapserver if you do the reprojection there. If you
  compiled these from source, this is not done by default,  you'll need to run
  configure with the appropriate flag. If you installed from a package, or on
  Windows, proj support is generally built in.


  HTH,

   Brent Wood

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