[mapserver-users] What to do with WMS 1.3.0 and axis order of EPSG:2393?

2010-11-24 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Hi,
 
The Finnish KKJ projection EPSG:2393 belongs to those with axis order
Northing-Easting
http://www.epsg-registry.org/report.htm?type=selectionentity=urn:ogc:de
f:crs:EPSG::2393reportDetail=shortstyle=urn:uuid:report-style:default-
with-codestyle_name=OGP%20Default%20With%20Codetitle=EPSG:2393
 
However, Mapserver WMS 1.3.0 from MS version 5.6.5 does not honour the
official axis order but it is assuming the Easting-Northing BBOX also
with WMS 1.3.0. Any suggestions about how to solve this?  In addition to
the two I have, to stay with WMS 1.1.1 or to start using UTM projection
with a real Easting-Northing axis order.
 
Problem is not only with Mapserver, GDAL based clients like QGis are
creating WMS 1.3.0 request with Easting-Northing BBOX for EPSG:2393.
Good is that QGIS and Mapserver play nicely together with WMS 1.3.0.
Bad is that it is not a fair play because they  both are fooling with
the rules.
 
I was wondering if this could be handled somehow in a similar way than
Geoserver and deegree are doing it.  They are following the traditional
Easting-Northing axis order if CRS is given as EPSG:2393.  But if CRS is
given as 
urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2393 they are using the axis order that is defined
in the EPSG database.  This is a little bit fiddling with the standard,
but the urn-format is the official one and the alternative short format
gives better possibilities for success for the end user of ready made
WMS/WFS clients.
 
-Jukka Rahkonen-
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Re: [mapserver-users] What to do with WMS 1.3.0 and axis order of EPSG:2393?

2010-11-24 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Hi,

Thank you for the information. The situation now is that ArcMap as a WMS client 
is making valid 1.3.0 GetMap EPSG:2393 requests but Mapserver gives wrong 
response. Nice to know that the correction is planned already to 5.6.6. release.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

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Lähettäjä: Yewondwossen Assefa [mailto:yass...@dmsolutions.ca]
Lähetetty: ke 24.11.2010 15:58
Vastaanottaja: Rahkonen Jukka
Kopio: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
Aihe: Re: [mapserver-users] What to do with WMS 1.3.0 and axis order of 
EPSG:2393?
 
Hi Jukka,

  Issues that you raise here are discussed in the following bugs (as a 
reference):
http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/ticket/3582
  http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/ticket/3576

I think the idea of using ogr/gdal to reliably get the axis order is for 
may the best option. In that case when we use wms1.3.0 and up, wfs 1.1 
and up we always know that the axis order are the same regardless of the 
format in which the epsg is given.

regards,



On 24/11/2010 8:04 AM, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
 Hi,
 The Finnish KKJ projection EPSG:2393 belongs to those with axis order 
 Northing-Easting
 http://www.epsg-registry.org/report.htm?type=selectionentity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2393reportDetail=shortstyle=urn:uuid:report-style:default-with-codestyle_name=OGP%20Default%20With%20Codetitle=EPSG:2393
  
 http://www.epsg-registry.org/report.htm?type=selectionentity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2393reportDetail=shortstyle=urn:uuid:report-style:default-with-codestyle_name=OGP%20Default%20With%20Codetitle=EPSG:2393
 However, Mapserver WMS 1.3.0 from MS version 5.6.5 does not honour the 
 official axis order but it is assuming the Easting-Northing BBOX also 
 with WMS 1.3.0. Any suggestions about how to solve this?  In addition 
 to the two I have, to stay with WMS 1.1.1 or to start using UTM 
 projection with a real Easting-Northing axis order.
 Problem is not only with Mapserver, GDAL based clients like QGis are 
 creating WMS 1.3.0 request with Easting-Northing BBOX for EPSG:2393.  
 Good is that QGIS and Mapserver play nicely together with WMS 1.3.0.  
 Bad is that it is not a fair play because they  both are fooling with 
 the rules.
 I was wondering if this could be handled somehow in a similar way than 
 Geoserver and deegree are doing it.  They are following the 
 traditional Easting-Northing axis order if CRS is given as EPSG:2393.  
 But if CRS is given as
 urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2393 they are using the axis order that is 
 defined in the EPSG database.  This is a little bit fiddling with the 
 standard, but the urn-format is the official one and the alternative 
 short format gives better possibilities for success for the end user 
 of ready made WMS/WFS clients.
 -Jukka Rahkonen-


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