RE: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support.
I got it to work... In case anyone is interested for future reference, it does have to do with the %PATH% not being configured properly to look at the SDE SDK files and I was unable to configure it correctly but placing the following files into the 'cgi-bin' folder where mapserv.exe resides allows it to run: Sde.dll Sg.dll Pe.dll Msvcp71d.dll <- if you have visual studio 2003 w/ C++ then you may not need to obtain this but I had to grab it online. Thanks for the help guys, Nelson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nelson Soto Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:50 AM To: Andreas Albarello Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: RE: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support. Makes sense. Unfortunately I'd really like to not have to stuff the files in the system32 folder but as a last resort it may have to be. It definitely seems to be an issue with the bath to my SDE SDK not being added and I can't seem to figure how to include the path to my SDK in the %PATH% variable because the folder name has spaces in it and while no error happens when running the batch, I still run into the same error so back to the drawing board. Oh, I meant to mention before that I had walked through mapserv.exe and libmap.dll but neither seemed to reference the dll at all... I think it only loads on request from the map file? ProcMon doesn't help me out either but its definitely a PATH variable thing.. -Original Message- From: Andreas Albarello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:25 PM To: Nelson Soto Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support. On 30 Sep 2008, at 21:56, Nelson Soto wrote: > After tracing dependencies with Dependency Walker, I can see sde.dll > and > libmap.dll aren't loading correctly when loading > 'msplugin_sde_92.dll'. > > Any ideas on how to alleviate this? Nelson, dynamically loaded plugin dlls which in turn require other statically compiled libraries is where Windows dll hell starts to get really ugly. Windows tries to locate your sde libraries either in one of the directories contained in your %PATH% (probably set by setenv.bat but I don't use MS4W so I can't help you there) or, preferably, in the application's folder. By that, if I'm not mistaken, they mean the directory which the main executable image of your app is launched from, so probably the one containing mapserv.exe (or maybe the one where libmap.dll resides?). It's definitely not going to work if you place them relative to the plugin inside your specialplugins folder as that dll is dynamically loaded into the main application's process space. What I'm saying is that Dependency Walker won't help you in this case if you launch it directly on msplugin_sde_92.dll, because what counts is what mapserver.exe/libmap.dll sees, not the plugin. Still, if all fails, you could always just drop the sde libs into c: \windows\system32 but I'm sure with some trial and error you'll find a place where they get picked up correctly. Best regards, -- Andreas Albarello Analysis & SW Development Territorium Online srl/GmbH Via Buozzi/Buozzistraße 12 - I 39100 Bolzano/Bozen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.territoriumonline.com ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
RE: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support.
Makes sense. Unfortunately I'd really like to not have to stuff the files in the system32 folder but as a last resort it may have to be. It definitely seems to be an issue with the bath to my SDE SDK not being added and I can't seem to figure how to include the path to my SDK in the %PATH% variable because the folder name has spaces in it and while no error happens when running the batch, I still run into the same error so back to the drawing board. Oh, I meant to mention before that I had walked through mapserv.exe and libmap.dll but neither seemed to reference the dll at all... I think it only loads on request from the map file? ProcMon doesn't help me out either but its definitely a PATH variable thing.. -Original Message- From: Andreas Albarello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:25 PM To: Nelson Soto Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support. On 30 Sep 2008, at 21:56, Nelson Soto wrote: > After tracing dependencies with Dependency Walker, I can see sde.dll > and > libmap.dll aren't loading correctly when loading > 'msplugin_sde_92.dll'. > > Any ideas on how to alleviate this? Nelson, dynamically loaded plugin dlls which in turn require other statically compiled libraries is where Windows dll hell starts to get really ugly. Windows tries to locate your sde libraries either in one of the directories contained in your %PATH% (probably set by setenv.bat but I don't use MS4W so I can't help you there) or, preferably, in the application's folder. By that, if I'm not mistaken, they mean the directory which the main executable image of your app is launched from, so probably the one containing mapserv.exe (or maybe the one where libmap.dll resides?). It's definitely not going to work if you place them relative to the plugin inside your specialplugins folder as that dll is dynamically loaded into the main application's process space. What I'm saying is that Dependency Walker won't help you in this case if you launch it directly on msplugin_sde_92.dll, because what counts is what mapserver.exe/libmap.dll sees, not the plugin. Still, if all fails, you could always just drop the sde libs into c: \windows\system32 but I'm sure with some trial and error you'll find a place where they get picked up correctly. Best regards, -- Andreas Albarello Analysis & SW Development Territorium Online srl/GmbH Via Buozzi/Buozzistraße 12 - I 39100 Bolzano/Bozen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.territoriumonline.com ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support.
On 30 Sep 2008, at 21:56, Nelson Soto wrote: After tracing dependencies with Dependency Walker, I can see sde.dll and libmap.dll aren't loading correctly when loading 'msplugin_sde_92.dll'. Any ideas on how to alleviate this? Nelson, dynamically loaded plugin dlls which in turn require other statically compiled libraries is where Windows dll hell starts to get really ugly. Windows tries to locate your sde libraries either in one of the directories contained in your %PATH% (probably set by setenv.bat but I don't use MS4W so I can't help you there) or, preferably, in the application's folder. By that, if I'm not mistaken, they mean the directory which the main executable image of your app is launched from, so probably the one containing mapserv.exe (or maybe the one where libmap.dll resides?). It's definitely not going to work if you place them relative to the plugin inside your specialplugins folder as that dll is dynamically loaded into the main application's process space. What I'm saying is that Dependency Walker won't help you in this case if you launch it directly on msplugin_sde_92.dll, because what counts is what mapserver.exe/libmap.dll sees, not the plugin. Still, if all fails, you could always just drop the sde libs into c: \windows\system32 but I'm sure with some trial and error you'll find a place where they get picked up correctly. Best regards, -- Andreas Albarello Analysis & SW Development Territorium Online srl/GmbH Via Buozzi/Buozzistraße 12 - I 39100 Bolzano/Bozen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.territoriumonline.com ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
RE: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support.
After tracing dependencies with Dependency Walker, I can see sde.dll and libmap.dll aren't loading correctly when loading 'msplugin_sde_92.dll'. Any ideas on how to alleviate this? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nelson Soto Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:45 PM To: Huey Brantley; Steve Lime Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: RE: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support. Unfortunately, I'm trying to get the msplugin_sde_92.dll to even load as a plug in at all. I get the following error : msDrawMap(): Image handling error. Failed to draw layer named 'parcels-sde'. loadCustomLayerDLL: General error message. Failed to load dynamic Layer LIB: D:\ms4w\Apache\specialplugins\msplugin_sde_92.dll msGetSymbol(): General error message. Can't load requested dynamic library: D:\ms4w\Apache\specialplugins\msplugin_sde_92.dll The path is correct but is likely one of that dll's dependencies... Ogrinfo and gdalinfo took some time to report 'SDE' in the formats list and it was due to not being able to find the ArcGIS SDK dlls... I couldn't figure out why (I did run SETENV.bat) so I just copied them into the gdal-ogr folder and didn't overwrite any of the files that perhaps may be shared but I'm sure this will lead to issues... What steps did you follow to get this set up correctly? I have used ms4w instructions for enabling and this doesn't seem to be effective... I have the ArcSDE 9.3 C API SDK installed. -Original Message- From: Huey Brantley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:29 PM To: Steve Lime Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org; Nelson Soto Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support. I use MapServer with ArcGIS 9.3 with no problems. On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 13:34 -0500, Steve Lime wrote: > My assumption is that if it is not specifically stated that something WON'T work with a particular > version then it probably will work. I'd say try it. I don't have that version handy or I'd do it myself. > > Steve > > >>> On 9/30/2008 at 12:06 PM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Nelson > Soto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have seen this question asked but have not found any answers; Is > > Mapserver capable of displaying and working with SDE 9.3??? The last > > noted version I can see is 9.2 and am curious as it is not explicitly > > labeled as not working on the MapServer website. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Nelson > > ___ > mapserver-users mailing list > mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support.
I use MapServer with ArcGIS 9.3 with no problems. On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 13:34 -0500, Steve Lime wrote: > My assumption is that if it is not specifically stated that something WON'T > work with a particular > version then it probably will work. I'd say try it. I don't have that version > handy or I'd do it myself. > > Steve > > >>> On 9/30/2008 at 12:06 PM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Nelson > Soto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have seen this question asked but have not found any answers; Is > > Mapserver capable of displaying and working with SDE 9.3??? The last > > noted version I can see is 9.2 and am curious as it is not explicitly > > labeled as not working on the MapServer website. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Nelson > > ___ > mapserver-users mailing list > mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
RE: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support.
Unfortunately, I'm trying to get the msplugin_sde_92.dll to even load as a plug in at all. I get the following error : msDrawMap(): Image handling error. Failed to draw layer named 'parcels-sde'. loadCustomLayerDLL: General error message. Failed to load dynamic Layer LIB: D:\ms4w\Apache\specialplugins\msplugin_sde_92.dll msGetSymbol(): General error message. Can't load requested dynamic library: D:\ms4w\Apache\specialplugins\msplugin_sde_92.dll The path is correct but is likely one of that dll's dependencies... Ogrinfo and gdalinfo took some time to report 'SDE' in the formats list and it was due to not being able to find the ArcGIS SDK dlls... I couldn't figure out why (I did run SETENV.bat) so I just copied them into the gdal-ogr folder and didn't overwrite any of the files that perhaps may be shared but I'm sure this will lead to issues... What steps did you follow to get this set up correctly? I have used ms4w instructions for enabling and this doesn't seem to be effective... I have the ArcSDE 9.3 C API SDK installed. -Original Message- From: Huey Brantley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:29 PM To: Steve Lime Cc: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org; Nelson Soto Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support. I use MapServer with ArcGIS 9.3 with no problems. On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 13:34 -0500, Steve Lime wrote: > My assumption is that if it is not specifically stated that something WON'T work with a particular > version then it probably will work. I'd say try it. I don't have that version handy or I'd do it myself. > > Steve > > >>> On 9/30/2008 at 12:06 PM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Nelson > Soto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have seen this question asked but have not found any answers; Is > > Mapserver capable of displaying and working with SDE 9.3??? The last > > noted version I can see is 9.2 and am curious as it is not explicitly > > labeled as not working on the MapServer website. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Nelson > > ___ > mapserver-users mailing list > mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] ArcSDE 9.3 Support.
My assumption is that if it is not specifically stated that something WON'T work with a particular version then it probably will work. I'd say try it. I don't have that version handy or I'd do it myself. Steve >>> On 9/30/2008 at 12:06 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Nelson Soto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have seen this question asked but have not found any answers; Is > Mapserver capable of displaying and working with SDE 9.3??? The last > noted version I can see is 9.2 and am curious as it is not explicitly > labeled as not working on the MapServer website. > > > > Thanks, > Nelson ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
