Re: [mapserver-users] map file paths

[John Callahan]

The PHP mapscript wrapper looks promising.  Thanks. The examples would need
to be combined into one php file to handle both GetMap and GetCapabilities
requests. Seems doable.  I'm not a programmer and didn't want to get into
mapscript, however, modifying this script template doesn't seem too
difficult (if you already have PHP, which my server does.)

I'm not a big fan of copying and renaming the mapserv.exe file but it does
work well. We only publish a handful of services and do not expect to
significantly increase in the future.  If we do, scripting a batch file
would work just as well.  This is relatively easy and without the need to
install (re: maintenance, security) or learn additional programming
languages.

For me, it's also important to have short, easily readable URLs to send out
to people that use our WMS services.  I do not want the extra "?map=mymap"
parameters at the end of the URLs.  For one reason or another, things always
get screwed up when people start pasting these URLs into their desktop GIS
or other apps.  Simpler the better, even if it's not elegant or involves
slightly more work on my part.

- John

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On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Waberzeck, Thomas <
thomas.waberz...@liag-hannover.de> wrote:

> Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
> > P Kishor wrote:
> >
> > > So you have 15 copies of the binary floating around on your computer.
> > > What a nightmare. If you upgrade, you have to make 15 copies of the
> > > new version and replace the old version.
> >
> > > What would happen when you publish the 150th geologic map?
> >
> > > Use a single binary, and use a wrapper (or the env variable) to get
> > > the right query.
> >
> > I do not believe there are handy wrappers for Windows and the only way
> > I have been able to get SetEnvIf to work is to make copies of
> > mapserv.exe with different names. I maintain a batch file about our
> > services with lines like "COPY mapserv.exe WMS_service1" etc. and then
> > I only need to run the batch after update and publishing the 150th
> > service does not change anything.
>
>
> If you have php it's quite easy to write a small wrapper for it. See
> http://www.mapserver.org/ogc/mapscript.html#php-example so the only thing
> to do is to write the wrappers once and you have a single setup of
> Mapserver.
>
> Thomas
> BTW: The Example should be updated - I think php_mapscript_4.10.0.dll is
> out of date. The name of the .dll is just php_mapscript.dll.
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Re: [mapserver-users] map file paths

[Wim Vanbelle]

I'm pretty sure you can use the rewrite module in IIS to achieve what you
need. I use it myself for a couple of REST webservices. Do note that I am
using IIS 7.

Take a look here :
http://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/460/using-the-url-rewrite-module/



On 4 November 2010 07:53, Waberzeck, Thomas <
thomas.waberz...@liag-hannover.de> wrote:

> Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
> > P Kishor wrote:
> >
> > > So you have 15 copies of the binary floating around on your computer.
> > > What a nightmare. If you upgrade, you have to make 15 copies of the
> > > new version and replace the old version.
> >
> > > What would happen when you publish the 150th geologic map?
> >
> > > Use a single binary, and use a wrapper (or the env variable) to get
> > > the right query.
> >
> > I do not believe there are handy wrappers for Windows and the only way
> > I have been able to get SetEnvIf to work is to make copies of
> > mapserv.exe with different names. I maintain a batch file about our
> > services with lines like "COPY mapserv.exe WMS_service1" etc. and then
> > I only need to run the batch after update and publishing the 150th
> > service does not change anything.
>
>
> If you have php it's quite easy to write a small wrapper for it. See
> http://www.mapserver.org/ogc/mapscript.html#php-example so the only thing
> to do is to write the wrappers once and you have a single setup of
> Mapserver.
>
> Thomas
> BTW: The Example should be updated - I think php_mapscript_4.10.0.dll is
> out of date. The name of the .dll is just php_mapscript.dll.
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Re: [mapserver-users] map file paths

[Waberzeck, Thomas]

Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
> P Kishor wrote:
> 
> > So you have 15 copies of the binary floating around on your computer.
> > What a nightmare. If you upgrade, you have to make 15 copies of the
> > new version and replace the old version.
> 
> > What would happen when you publish the 150th geologic map?
> 
> > Use a single binary, and use a wrapper (or the env variable) to get
> > the right query.
> 
> I do not believe there are handy wrappers for Windows and the only way
> I have been able to get SetEnvIf to work is to make copies of
> mapserv.exe with different names. I maintain a batch file about our
> services with lines like "COPY mapserv.exe WMS_service1" etc. and then
> I only need to run the batch after update and publishing the 150th
> service does not change anything.


If you have php it's quite easy to write a small wrapper for it. See 
http://www.mapserver.org/ogc/mapscript.html#php-example so the only thing to do 
is to write the wrappers once and you have a single setup of Mapserver.

Thomas
BTW: The Example should be updated - I think php_mapscript_4.10.0.dll is out of 
date. The name of the .dll is just php_mapscript.dll.
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Re: [mapserver-users] map file paths

[Rahkonen Jukka]

P Kishor wrote:

> So you have 15 copies of the binary floating around on your computer.
> What a nightmare. If you upgrade, you have to make 15 copies of the
> new version and replace the old version.

> What would happen when you publish the 150th geologic map?

> Use a single binary, and use a wrapper (or the env variable) to get
> the right query.

I do not believe there are handy wrappers for Windows and the only way I have 
been able to get SetEnvIf to work is to make copies of mapserv.exe with 
different names. I maintain a batch file about our services with lines like 
"COPY mapserv.exe WMS_service1" etc. and then I only need to run the batch 
after update and publishing the 150th service does not change anything. 

-Jukka Rahkonen-



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Re: [mapserver-users] map file paths

[Richard Greenwood]

John, Puneet,

Being able to leave the .exe extension off in Windows is new to me and
medium cool. Based on some rather foggy recollection, I think that it
is limited to Apache. I don't think it works under IIS. But it's handy
if you're developing on Windows and serving on *NIX.

I'm kind of with Puneet in that I don't think multiple copies of
binaries is generally good advise. However, under Windows (Apache or
IIS) there is far less flexibility in wrapper scripts[1] than under
*NIX, so I can see the appeal.

Regards,
Rich

[1] The most common wrapper under Windows in an ASP script, which not
only restricts you to IIS, but ASP has been superseded by ASPX, and I
haven't seen an ASPX wrapper yet. You can install Perl (I know Puneet
doesn't think a computer is worth booting if it doesn't have Perl) but
that's just one more dependency for most Windows users. And it seems
like there should be an option to wrap a CGI in PHP, but I have yet to
find it.




On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:20 PM, John Callahan  wrote:
> Basically what I do is copy and rename mapserv.exe to some name I want in
> the URL.  Then, if a request goes to that file, set the MS_MAPFILE variable
> to the relevant map file.  This has worked well for me so far.
>
> For example, my organization recently published our 15th geologic map of out
> state.  I want people to refer to it as geomap15.  Therefore, I copied and
> renamed mapserv.exe to geomap15 (no exe extension, file still in cgi-bin
> directory).  Then, I have the following in my httpd.conf file:
>
> SetEnvIf Request_URI "/cgi-bin/geomap15"
> MS_MAPFILE=C:/pathtomapfile/geomap15.map
>
> My URLs then look something like: http://maps.dgs.udel.edu/cgi-bin/geomap15?
>
> (This map file in action here:
> http://www.dgs.udel.edu/datasets/dgs-geologic-map-no-15-georgetown-quadrangle-dataset)
>
> - John
>
> **
> John Callahan, Research Scientist
> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
> URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
> **
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Richard Greenwood
>  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:42 PM, David Hildebrand
>>  wrote:
>> > Is there a way of abbreviating pathnames to the map file?  For instance,
>> > my
>> > URL to produce a map is
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=//fileserver/PDP/Program_Dev/DHildebrand/geoprocessing_server/MapServer/sample.map&mode=map
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In my apache configuration file I have
>> > //fileserver/PDP/Program_Dev/DHildebrand/geoprocessing_server/ aliased
>> > to
>> > /test/ but the alias does not seem to work with CGI.  I’m just wondering
>> > if
>> > there is a workaround so that I don’t need to specify the whole file
>> > path in
>> > my URL.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > ===
>> > David V. Hildebrand
>> > Agriculture Financial Services Corporation
>> > (403) 782-8239
>>
>> In your Apache httpd.conf add:
>>   SetEnv MY_MAP  "C:/path/to/my/mapfile.map"
>>
>> and then your URL can be:
>>   http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=MYMAP&mode=map
>>
>> Shorter URL, better security.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> --
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>> www.greenwoodmap.com
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Re: [mapserver-users] map file paths

[P Kishor]

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:20 PM, John Callahan  wrote:
> Basically what I do is copy and rename mapserv.exe to some name I want in
> the URL.  Then, if a request goes to that file, set the MS_MAPFILE variable
> to the relevant map file.  This has worked well for me so far.
>
> For example, my organization recently published our 15th geologic map of out
> state.  I want people to refer to it as geomap15.  Therefore, I copied and
> renamed mapserv.exe to geomap15 (no exe extension, file still in cgi-bin
> directory).

So you have 15 copies of the binary floating around on your computer.
What a nightmare. If you upgrade, you have to make 15 copies of the
new version and replace the old version.

What would happen when you publish the 150th geologic map?

Use a single binary, and use a wrapper (or the env variable) to get
the right query.



> Then, I have the following in my httpd.conf file:
>
> SetEnvIf Request_URI "/cgi-bin/geomap15"
> MS_MAPFILE=C:/pathtomapfile/geomap15.map
>
> My URLs then look something like: http://maps.dgs.udel.edu/cgi-bin/geomap15?
>
> (This map file in action here:
> http://www.dgs.udel.edu/datasets/dgs-geologic-map-no-15-georgetown-quadrangle-dataset)
>
> - John
>
> **
> John Callahan, Research Scientist
> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
> URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
> **
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Richard Greenwood
>  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:42 PM, David Hildebrand
>>  wrote:
>> > Is there a way of abbreviating pathnames to the map file?  For instance,
>> > my
>> > URL to produce a map is
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=//fileserver/PDP/Program_Dev/DHildebrand/geoprocessing_server/MapServer/sample.map&mode=map
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In my apache configuration file I have
>> > //fileserver/PDP/Program_Dev/DHildebrand/geoprocessing_server/ aliased
>> > to
>> > /test/ but the alias does not seem to work with CGI.  I’m just wondering
>> > if
>> > there is a workaround so that I don’t need to specify the whole file
>> > path in
>> > my URL.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > ===
>> > David V. Hildebrand
>> > Agriculture Financial Services Corporation
>> > (403) 782-8239
>>
>> In your Apache httpd.conf add:
>>   SetEnv MY_MAP  "C:/path/to/my/mapfile.map"
>>
>> and then your URL can be:
>>   http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=MYMAP&mode=map
>>
>> Shorter URL, better security.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> --
>> Richard Greenwood
>> richard.greenw...@gmail.com
>> www.greenwoodmap.com
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Re: [mapserver-users] map file paths

[John Callahan]

Basically what I do is copy and rename mapserv.exe to some name I want in
the URL.  Then, if a request goes to that file, set the MS_MAPFILE variable
to the relevant map file.  This has worked well for me so far.

For example, my organization recently published our 15th geologic map of out
state.  I want people to refer to it as geomap15.  Therefore, I copied and
renamed mapserv.exe to geomap15 (no exe extension, file still in cgi-bin
directory).  Then, I have the following in my httpd.conf file:

SetEnvIf Request_URI "/cgi-bin/geomap15"
MS_MAPFILE=C:/pathtomapfile/geomap15.map

My URLs then look something like: http://maps.dgs.udel.edu/cgi-bin/geomap15?

(This map file in action here:
http://www.dgs.udel.edu/datasets/dgs-geologic-map-no-15-georgetown-quadrangle-dataset
)

- John

**
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Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
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On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Richard Greenwood <
richard.greenw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:42 PM, David Hildebrand
>  wrote:
> > Is there a way of abbreviating pathnames to the map file?  For instance,
> my
> > URL to produce a map is
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=//fileserver/PDP/Program_Dev/DHildebrand/geoprocessing_server/MapServer/sample.map&mode=map
> >
> >
> >
> > In my apache configuration file I have
> > //fileserver/PDP/Program_Dev/DHildebrand/geoprocessing_server/ aliased to
> > /test/ but the alias does not seem to work with CGI.  I’m just wondering
> if
> > there is a workaround so that I don’t need to specify the whole file path
> in
> > my URL.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > ===
> > David V. Hildebrand
> > Agriculture Financial Services Corporation
> > (403) 782-8239
>
> In your Apache httpd.conf add:
>   SetEnv MY_MAP  "C:/path/to/my/mapfile.map"
>
> and then your URL can be:
>   http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=MYMAP&mode=map
>
> Shorter URL, better security.
>
> Rich
>
> --
> Richard Greenwood
> richard.greenw...@gmail.com
> www.greenwoodmap.com
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Re: [mapserver-users] map file paths

[Richard Greenwood]

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:42 PM, David Hildebrand
 wrote:
> Is there a way of abbreviating pathnames to the map file?  For instance, my
> URL to produce a map is
>
>
>
> http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=//fileserver/PDP/Program_Dev/DHildebrand/geoprocessing_server/MapServer/sample.map&mode=map
>
>
>
> In my apache configuration file I have
> //fileserver/PDP/Program_Dev/DHildebrand/geoprocessing_server/ aliased to
> /test/ but the alias does not seem to work with CGI.  I’m just wondering if
> there is a workaround so that I don’t need to specify the whole file path in
> my URL.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> ===
> David V. Hildebrand
> Agriculture Financial Services Corporation
> (403) 782-8239

In your Apache httpd.conf add:
   SetEnv MY_MAP  "C:/path/to/my/mapfile.map"

and then your URL can be:
   http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=MYMAP&mode=map

Shorter URL, better security.

Rich

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Re: [mapserver-users] map file paths

[Rahkonen Jukka]

Hi,

See http://mapserver.org/ogc/wms_server.html#reference-section and there about 
wrapper shell script.

-Jukka Rahkonen-


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Is there a way of abbreviating pathnames to the map file?  For instance,
my URL to produce a map is

 

http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=//fileserver/PDP/Program_Dev/DH
ildebrand/geoprocessing_server/MapServer/sample.map&mode=map

 

In my apache configuration file I have
//fileserver/PDP/Program_Dev/DHildebrand/geoprocessing_server/ aliased
to /test/ but the alias does not seem to work with CGI.  I'm just
wondering if there is a workaround so that I don't need to specify the
whole file path in my URL.

 

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