Re: [libreoffice-marketing] OpenOffice.org Roles
Hi, Andy Brown wrote on 2010-10-16 20.24: It is a total shame that they are doing this. What next are they going to request all that are connected to the LibreOffice community that to stop being part of the OOo community? Those that are working on the Documentation project can not be connected to the LibO documentation project? What about the Distribution Project members? Can't offer both? What about the user support from the community members, not be allowed on mailing list for both projects. I totally agree. It's a shame to see that only one specific group out of the community forces us to make a decision, while the others either don't care/see any problem, or support our step. That's sad to hear, and that has nothing to do with a community, if one group can force the other... Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Joining the marketing list
Hi Melissa, Melissa Ladd wrote on 2010-10-17 10.45: I just joined this marketing mailing list. I am by no means techy but I was an OOo user and am now a LibreOffice user, and would like to be of help in any way I can. Perhaps more on the aesthetics and how to market to women, than the techy aspects,;-) hence this particular list. welcome on board! In fact, the secret master plan has always been to involve more women in this project, so some professional help is always welcome. :-) No, seriously: The marketing part is just being built, and you jumped in at the right time. We'll have a marketing conference call on the phone soon, and if you want to join, feel free to cast your vote on day and time at http://www.doodle.com/uiidvmmxcp53r4xs Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] OpenOffice.org Roles
Hi *, Florian Effenberger schrieb: Hi, Andy Brown wrote on 2010-10-16 20.24: It is a total shame that they are doing this. What next are they going to request all that are connected to the LibreOffice community that to stop being part of the OOo community? Those that are working on the Documentation project can not be connected to the LibO documentation project? What about the Distribution Project members? Can't offer both? What about the user support from the community members, not be allowed on mailing list for both projects. I totally agree. It's a shame to see that only one specific group out of the community forces us to make a decision, while the others either don't care/see any problem, or support our step. That's sad to hear, and that has nothing to do with a community, if one group can force the other... Florian +1 Heinz -- ++ Heinz W. Simoneit - Content Developer | Marketing OpenOffice.org ++ Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows: http://de.openoffice.org -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Free Bibliographic Software
Le 2010-10-16 18:26, j.martin.pedersen a écrit : Hi Martin Welcome to the marketing list and many thanks for your input. The purpose of the marketing list is to discuss the various approaches to marketing the LibreOffice brand. Your input is exaclty the type of input that I am particularly interested in hearing and documenting. LibO needs to take stock of missing functionalities that would make it a more viable tool in the academic arenas. I have often heard from people of the power of LibO (OpenOffice) however, the lacking tools for academia have made it such that many (in academia) who have tried it have had to abandon LibO for lack of tools in particular areas. So, I hope to make a list of these tools that are necessary to market LibO as a possible tool for our academic colleagues and hope that a dev (or many devs) will show interest in expanding these tools through whatever means possible either by plugin (obviously the preferred choice) or LibO coded addition (permanently coded into LibO -- not likely to happen) So, onto your list: Hi list, I have just subscribed because of a thread on the discuss list about bibliographic software for LO, because I am interested in academic use of Free Software, which for most people require being able to handle existing bibliographic databases. (Currently I am on the fringe of academia, doing bits of precarious research, funding application writing and teaching, having finished a PhD in February titled Property, Commoning and the Politics of Free Software.) There is a wealth of options, somehow. http://www.zotero.org/ is very interesting. Moving to the browser level makes a lot of sense for researchers - that's where you need it most of the time (auto-adding PDFs, URIs etc.) and if connected to ISBN databases it can make life a lot easier. I will be looking for comment on those using Zotero to see if this is a viable and functional plugin. I have tried Zotero, found it quite complete, however, not being involved in any academic research could not evaluate it in a real time situation. A friend of mine in Music Therapy research took a look at it and found it too complex to adopt. She reverted back to MSOffice on her MacBook. This is the only feedback I got from her as she said that she did not have enough time to research the plugin due to the time frame of her 1.5 project deadline. We will need more feedback from people using Zotero. I found it to be quite promising. But Bibus: http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - last update in 2009!?!? and: http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/ - Last updated in 2008!?! List address annou...@bibliographic.openoffice.org List descriptionA moderated mailing list for announce messages Total messages 2 This does not inspire confidence :) I will try to get back on the marketing list about these and development. I will try to contact them about their project's status at the moment. My feeling are that if they have not been worked on for such a long period of time, then they have most likely been abandoned and the project have been left open for some other groups adoption. I am sure someone will comment if they are aware of these projects. My questions are: What happened to the OOo Bibliography project? And what are the many competing visions for a bibliographical system that exist across platforms? Finally, how can the Free Software world create a bibliographic system that integrates all the best of existing systems in a cross-platform GUI that is compatible with the dominant systems (Endnote etc.) and which integrates with OOo, LO, and even that M$ Office thing and of course Firefox or Zotero? I believe our concern here is with LibO integration only. But this is open for comments. There should be a basis for a project with social and computing science departments. The time is right for institutions to explore cuts in their licensing costs. Always look on the bright side... -martin Agreed. PS: https://www.mendeley.com was suggested on that threat and that is a very interesting looking project, but it is not free, only as in beer. Thanks. I visited the site and, indeed, they do look promising and seem quite active. We will need some feedback on people using their product with LibO. It may integrate well with OpenOffice, but we will have to gauge if LibO integration is done smoothly. We may have to start a Wiki page on LibO Education Academia to track these options. Maybe a comment from Drew or Florian? Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Free Bibliographic Software
Le 2010-10-17 07:13, Marc Paré a écrit : Le 2010-10-16 18:26, j.martin.pedersen a écrit : Hi Martin Welcome to the marketing list and many thanks for your input. The purpose of the marketing list is to discuss the various approaches to marketing the LibreOffice brand. Your input is exaclty the type of input that I am particularly interested in hearing and documenting. LibO needs to take stock of missing functionalities that would make it a more viable tool in the academic arenas. I have often heard from people of the power of LibO (OpenOffice) however, the lacking tools for academia have made it such that many (in academia) who have tried it have had to abandon LibO for lack of tools in particular areas. So, I hope to make a list of these tools that are necessary to market LibO as a possible tool for our academic colleagues and hope that a dev (or many devs) will show interest in expanding these tools through whatever means possible either by plugin (obviously the preferred choice) or LibO coded addition (permanently coded into LibO -- not likely to happen) So, onto your list: Hi list, I have just subscribed because of a thread on the discuss list about bibliographic software for LO, because I am interested in academic use of Free Software, which for most people require being able to handle existing bibliographic databases. (Currently I am on the fringe of academia, doing bits of precarious research, funding application writing and teaching, having finished a PhD in February titled Property, Commoning and the Politics of Free Software.) There is a wealth of options, somehow. http://www.zotero.org/ is very interesting. Moving to the browser level makes a lot of sense for researchers - that's where you need it most of the time (auto-adding PDFs, URIs etc.) and if connected to ISBN databases it can make life a lot easier. I will be looking for comment on those using Zotero to see if this is a viable and functional plugin. I have tried Zotero, found it quite complete, however, not being involved in any academic research could not evaluate it in a real time situation. A friend of mine in Music Therapy research took a look at it and found it too complex to adopt. She reverted back to MSOffice on her MacBook. This is the only feedback I got from her as she said that she did not have enough time to research the plugin due to the time frame of her 1.5 project deadline. We will need more feedback from people using Zotero. I found it to be quite promising. But Bibus: http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - last update in 2009!?!? and: http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/ - Last updated in 2008!?! List address annou...@bibliographic.openoffice.org List description A moderated mailing list for announce messages Total messages 2 This does not inspire confidence :) I will try to get back on the marketing list about these and development. I will try to contact them about their project's status at the moment. My feeling are that if they have not been worked on for such a long period of time, then they have most likely been abandoned and the project have been left open for some other groups adoption. I am sure someone will comment if they are aware of these projects. My questions are: What happened to the OOo Bibliography project? And what are the many competing visions for a bibliographical system that exist across platforms? Finally, how can the Free Software world create a bibliographic system that integrates all the best of existing systems in a cross-platform GUI that is compatible with the dominant systems (Endnote etc.) and which integrates with OOo, LO, and even that M$ Office thing and of course Firefox or Zotero? I believe our concern here is with LibO integration only. But this is open for comments. There should be a basis for a project with social and computing science departments. The time is right for institutions to explore cuts in their licensing costs. Always look on the bright side... -martin Agreed. PS: https://www.mendeley.com was suggested on that threat and that is a very interesting looking project, but it is not free, only as in beer. Thanks. I visited the site and, indeed, they do look promising and seem quite active. We will need some feedback on people using their product with LibO. It may integrate well with OpenOffice, but we will have to gauge if LibO integration is done smoothly. We may have to start a Wiki page on LibO Education Academia to track these options. Maybe a comment from Drew or Florian? Marc I will start a new discussion thread called LibO in Academia which is more descriptive for this discussion. Could everyone answer on that discussion thread? Thanks Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Academia
Re: Free Bibliographic Software This is a copy of a thread that Martin had started re: Free bibliographic software. This copy also includes my answer to his thread. Marc === Le 2010-10-16 18:26, j.martin.pedersen a écrit : Hi Martin Welcome to the marketing list and many thanks for your input. The purpose of the marketing list is to discuss the various approaches to marketing the LibreOffice brand. Your input is exaclty the type of input that I am particularly interested in hearing and documenting. LibO needs to take stock of missing functionalities that would make it a more viable tool in the academic arenas. I have often heard from people of the power of LibO (OpenOffice) however, the lacking tools for academia have made it such that many (in academia) who have tried it have had to abandon LibO for lack of tools in particular areas. So, I hope to make a list of these tools that are necessary to market LibO as a possible tool for our academic colleagues and hope that a dev (or many devs) will show interest in expanding these tools through whatever means possible either by plugin (obviously the preferred choice) or LibO coded addition (permanently coded into LibO -- not likely to happen) So, onto your list: Hi list, I have just subscribed because of a thread on the discuss list about bibliographic software for LO, because I am interested in academic use of Free Software, which for most people require being able to handle existing bibliographic databases. (Currently I am on the fringe of academia, doing bits of precarious research, funding application writing and teaching, having finished a PhD in February titled Property, Commoning and the Politics of Free Software.) There is a wealth of options, somehow. http://www.zotero.org/ is very interesting. Moving to the browser level makes a lot of sense for researchers - that's where you need it most of the time (auto-adding PDFs, URIs etc.) and if connected to ISBN databases it can make life a lot easier. I will be looking for comment on those using Zotero to see if this is a viable and functional plugin. I have tried Zotero, found it quite complete, however, not being involved in any academic research could not evaluate it in a real time situation. A friend of mine in Music Therapy research took a look at it and found it too complex to adopt. She reverted back to MSOffice on her MacBook. This is the only feedback I got from her as she said that she did not have enough time to research the plugin due to the time frame of her 1.5 project deadline. We will need more feedback from people using Zotero. I found it to be quite promising. But Bibus: http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - last update in 2009!?!? and: http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/ - Last updated in 2008!?! List address annou...@bibliographic.openoffice.org List description A moderated mailing list for announce messages Total messages 2 This does not inspire confidence :) I will try to get back on the marketing list about these and development. I will try to contact them about their project's status at the moment. My feeling are that if they have not been worked on for such a long period of time, then they have most likely been abandoned and the project have been left open for some other groups adoption. I am sure someone will comment if they are aware of these projects. My questions are: What happened to the OOo Bibliography project? And what are the many competing visions for a bibliographical system that exist across platforms? Finally, how can the Free Software world create a bibliographic system that integrates all the best of existing systems in a cross-platform GUI that is compatible with the dominant systems (Endnote etc.) and which integrates with OOo, LO, and even that M$ Office thing and of course Firefox or Zotero? I believe our concern here is with LibO integration only. But this is open for comments. There should be a basis for a project with social and computing science departments. The time is right for institutions to explore cuts in their licensing costs. Always look on the bright side... -martin Agreed. PS: https://www.mendeley.com was suggested on that threat and that is a very interesting looking project, but it is not free, only as in beer. Thanks. I visited the site and, indeed, they do look promising and seem quite active. We will need some feedback on people using their product with LibO. It may integrate well with OpenOffice, but we will have to gauge if LibO integration is done smoothly. We may have to start a Wiki page on LibO Education Academia to track these options. Maybe a comment from Drew or Florian? Marc === -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All
[libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
I am interested in the marketing of LibO as an effective tool in education. In particular JK (kindergarten) to the end of High School (or comparable to this internationally as well). Is LibO, in your opinion, a good and effective tool for educational purposes? If we were to project target the educational establishment (School Boards, Educational governing bodies), would LibO have any attractive selling points or is there any missing functionality in the suite that should be considered to make it a better option for its adoption by these organisations? We know that the obvious price advantage is one selling point. Support is perhaps one the largest consideration for these organisations. They normally want both support at the IT level and support at the student level. Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] OpenOffice.org Roles
+1 from my side - sadly it seems as if the decision is not up to us... Andy Brown wrote on 2010-10-17 17.55: I am starting to see the effects and don't like what I see. The community is the volunteers. From the developers to the end users that provide user support on the list/forums. The elected CC members should not be removed without a vote of those that elected them. -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Academia
In addition to the bibliography tools you mention in an offshoot of this thread, I've heard many requests for a note-taking application of some kind. (With the interface of Writer and the backend data storage provided by Base, maybe?) -Ben On Oct 17, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Marc Paré wrote: This thread is to explore the LibO use in Academia and tools necessary to make it more appealing. Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] First Branding Material Arrived :-)
Hi all, some people already asked for the branding material source data (e.g. SVGs) to join the graphic creation wave. I have also been asked by the TDF team, whether I could explain how to use the graphics - at the moment, we really aim to not only to create a great basis for the community project, we also aim for a consistent branding that helps everyone (especially users) to gain some trust. Well, after some blog posts (more to come) that explain how we came up with some stuff, I started a wiki page to start the branding guidelines and best practices. It is still work-in-progress, so please expect some (hopefully positive) changes in the next few days. But what can you expect today? Let's see: * SVG data for the logo including what to do and what to avoid * The color palette including a palette file for Inkscape / The Gimp * The description of our name (e.g. LibreOffice, The DocumentFoundation, LibO) * Font explanations and the download location * More detailed information to most of the topics (references to the blog posts). Things to be done: * Explain some branding basics. * Explain the key visuals, e.g. the small triangle or the gradients you can see in LibreOffice Beta and the website. * Improve the access to the logo (I think a matrix for the different scalable / pixel-optimized versions would be helpful) * Improve the color palette; there has been a proposal for an additional color by Bernhard. And we need the CMYK values. * More examples, e.g. how did the initial website design look like? * Make it really work: Feedback required! (Your job, by the way *g*) Here it is: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding By the way, it would be great if somebody could proof-read the page and tell me whether the location in the wiki is correct. I skipped some of the discussion and simply hijacked the already existing Marketing page. Finally, thanks to all who directly and indirectly contributed (already)! All the material (e.g. the pronunciation files), or the feedback (e.g. in the blog postings, on the mailing list) helped a lot. @Bernhard: Did I forget anything? Cheers, Christoph -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] IRC channel?
Perhaps this info should be added to the wiki? :) Sadiq S mailto: sadiq.9...@gmail.com Blog: www.staticsafe.me Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.orgwrote: Is on Freenode: #documentfoundation is for discussion #libreoffice is for technical support On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Sadiq Saif sadiq.9...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was curious, does LibreOffice/TDF have an official IRC channel for discussion/support? Sorry if this was posted on the discuss mailing list. Sadiq S mailto: sadiq.9...@gmail.com Blog: www.staticsafe.me Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bh...@libreoffice.org marketing%2bh...@libreoffice.org marketing%252bh...@libreoffice.orgfor instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bh...@libreoffice.orgfor instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libhttp://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ * * reoffice.org/lists/marketing/ http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Joining the marketing list
Melissa Ladd wrote on 2010-10-17 10.45: I just joined this marketing mailing list. I am by no means techy but I was an OOo user and am now a LibreOffice user, and would like to be of help in any way I can. Perhaps more on the aesthetics and how to market to women, than the techy aspects,;-) hence this particular list. welcome on board! In fact, the secret master plan has always been to involve more women in this project, so some professional help is always welcome. :-) No, seriously: The marketing part is just being built, and you jumped in at the right time. We'll have a marketing conference call on the phone soon, and if you want to join, feel free to cast your vote on day and time at http://www.doodle.com/uiidvmmxcp53r4xs Also, if you're located in or near the USA, you may want to join our regional list. To subscribe, send an email to marketing+subscr...@us.libreoffice.org As Florian says, we definitely need new and fresh perspectives (not just techies) to participate in our marketing efforts around the world! -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] OpenOffice.org Roles
On Sun Oct 17 2010 19:24:11 GMT-0700 (PDT) Ramon Sole wrote: Hi *, I disagree, I feel same people can't be ruling OOo and TDF. And I see a clear Conflict of Interest for people in the Community Council. Both communities will be able to collaborate in tons of things, but the project leaders can't share responsabilities in both projects. If so, why to have two Communities? The shame is that a such simple thing has been to be asked by the OOo Council members to some people. You can't fork a open source project and keep leading the original one! It's atonishing just trying to do it. Best Greetings, Hi Ramon, As a member of the overall community is that the CC members be recalled by those that elected them. For Oracle just have them removed it not right. A special election should be help to replace them. That is all I am asking for. Andy -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Le 2010-10-17 19:27, Sadiq Saif a écrit : Price may be one marketing point, though this may be offset by training and support costs. But we must keep in mind the huge amount of mind share that MS Office has build up over the years. People are too used to Office and how it works. In fact even if LibreOffice is better (we hope) than MS Office, we still won't see a widespread adoption of LibreOffice or FOSS software for that matter. I am pretty sure that big school boards like the TDSB have contracts with Microsoft as well. Sadiq S mailto: sadiq.9...@gmail.com Blog: www.staticsafe.me Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: Thanks for the note Sadiq. Yes, the training and support costs could be a problem if LibO does not have the infrastructure to take care of a general use help desk type of mailist. But so far, the user mailist on OOo has been great. Our new LibO user mailist is new and is just started to attract attention from users. We just have to market it properly. BTW, you speak of large boards like the TDSB. Are you Canadian? Marc Waterloo, Canada -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Yes, indeed I'm a Canadian living in Toronto and a student in the TDSB. Sadiq S mailto: sadiq.9...@gmail.com Blog: www.staticsafe.me Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-10-17 19:27, Sadiq Saif a écrit : Price may be one marketing point, though this may be offset by training and support costs. But we must keep in mind the huge amount of mind share that MS Office has build up over the years. People are too used to Office and how it works. In fact even if LibreOffice is better (we hope) than MS Office, we still won't see a widespread adoption of LibreOffice or FOSS software for that matter. I am pretty sure that big school boards like the TDSB have contracts with Microsoft as well. Sadiq S mailto: sadiq.9...@gmail.com Blog: www.staticsafe.me Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: Thanks for the note Sadiq. Yes, the training and support costs could be a problem if LibO does not have the infrastructure to take care of a general use help desk type of mailist. But so far, the user mailist on OOo has been great. Our new LibO user mailist is new and is just started to attract attention from users. We just have to market it properly. BTW, you speak of large boards like the TDSB. Are you Canadian? Marc Waterloo, Canada -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bh...@libreoffice.orgfor instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
