Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO resources ready for final version announcements
Hi Marc, thanks for pushing this forward! We can also talk about this during today's call, but in general: Marc Paré wrote on 2010-11-11 06.42: With the release date for the LibO final version approaching, I am just wondering what should we be getting reading ready from the viewpoint of marketing/publicity for the release of LibO to the public? Is there a list of products? Flyers, presentation (I believe this is being worked on), communiqué, after-release resources. We should also talk about how to keep the buzz going for the post-release LibO. Regionally speaking, on a country per country basis, should we be preparing publicity for the release date? Lots of materials are still missing. We should draft a PR soon, and should also collect a list of features and what's new, illustrated with images. That would be really helpful. Anything else we can get, like flyers, brochures, presentations, are of course highly welcome. I'll put that topic on the agenda for today's marketing call. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: Libre Office's future strategy - suggestions from a Computer Weekly article that may be of use to the Foundation
> > >wasn't Google offering its products to enterprises for private clouds? (Or > was it MS?) > > Both of them. Google might have gotten down to a large small business. > Neither addressed the needs/requirements of a SOHO that needed a > private cloud on their premises. > > >In any case, Ubuntu certainly does market private clouds [1]. > > So I've discovered. > > jonathon > > In terms of basic strategy one thing that MS and Google have (and to a lesser extent Canonical) that we don't have is development resources. It seems to me that we can maintain LO with a few tweaks but we have no means to make big changes that take a lot of resources. So the most fundamental part of any strategy is to work out how to get more resources for development. Once there is resource, the political argument can begin on the best way to use it :-). -- Ian -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Res: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO resources ready for final version announcements
Hello Marc Paré. Excellent observation:) I thought of something like FLISOL Festival (Latin American Free Software Installation). Imagine the worldwide launch of Libo. Where people would be talking about the same on the same day in different cities around the world! No, Microsoft would not be able to do this so well! We may have a general presentation (presentation model), indicating the news of Libo available for volunteers / speakers. But may be adjusted due to its designer regional factors - for example in Brazil would be interesting to more vibrant colors in shades of green and yellow in some detail in the slide. Then we can send pictures and events of the event for the wiki or blogs Libo. In addition to sending to newspapers, websites and blogs about technology. If the idea of the paper airplane go forward, we can make paper airplanes with flyers announcing the event and distribute at universities in our cities. In addition to banner paper airplane flying fitting and the logo of Libo friends on blogs and websites ... just thoughts:) Até mais, Lucas Filho Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços http://www.open-ce.com.br ::@strogildo - Educação a distância http://astrogildo.blogspot.com Coordenador Estadual GUBRO-Ceará http://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce Blog Pessoal http://lucasfilho.blogspot.com Agradecemos a Deus por tudo - Mensagem original De: Marc Paré Para: marketing@libreoffice.org Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 11 de Novembro de 2010 2:42:49 Assunto: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO resources ready for final version announcements With the release date for the LibO final version approaching, I am just wondering what should we be getting reading ready from the viewpoint of marketing/publicity for the release of LibO to the public? Is there a list of products? Flyers, presentation (I believe this is being worked on), communiqué, after-release resources. We should also talk about how to keep the buzz going for the post-release LibO. Regionally speaking, on a country per country basis, should we be preparing publicity for the release date? Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: LibO resources ready for final version announcements
Le 2010-11-11 09:39, Lucas Filho a écrit : Hello Marc Paré. Excellent observation:) I thought of something like FLISOL Festival (Latin American Free Software Installation). Imagine the worldwide launch of Libo. Where people would be talking about the same on the same day in different cities around the world! No, Microsoft would not be able to do this so well! Once the launch day is past we should have some strategy at keeping the LibreOffice in the news. We need more blogs, but we need to make sure that they are coming in from all parts of the world, not just some regions. Maybe we should make a list of blogs already on our Blogosphere, from where they are coming from and then canvass/encourage LibO blogging from members from different countries. We may have a general presentation (presentation model), indicating the news of Libo available for volunteers / speakers. But may be adjusted due to its designer regional factors - for example in Brazil would be interesting to more vibrant colors in shades of green and yellow in some detail in the slide. I think this is being prepared. I have just forgotten who is working on this. We should maybe put up a link on our resources page to the actual model and this way we could keep up to the progress of the model or maybe even help out. Of course later cooperate and the different language and national versions. Then we can send pictures and events of the event for the wiki or blogs Libo. In addition to sending to newspapers, websites and blogs about technology. Absolutely. We should also have a monthly newsletter detailing "What's new at "LibreOffice" to show that there is active participation on the project. If the idea of the paper airplane go forward, we can make paper airplanes with flyers announcing the event and distribute at universities in our cities. In addition to banner paper airplane flying fitting and the logo of Libo friends on blogs and websites ... just thoughts:) That sounds neat! Even if the idea doesn't "fly" :-) we could post online a model of a paper airplane with the LibO advertising on it. Then people could print their own airplanes and fly them where they want! We could place the LibO publicity words on them in such a way as to leave enough room on the page so that people could later use one side of the page for personal correspondence, grocery list, ... That way, the paper would not go to waste as one side or both sides could still be used for writing. We do not want to be blamed for wasting paper, but it would be a cool way of advertising! We could develop a black/white version and a colour version. We should have a LibO slogan. Até mais, Lucas Filho Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Here are a few of my suggestions: "LibreOffice, a suite deal." "Memories brought to you by LibreOffice" "Take note, with LibreOffice." "Penmanship begins with LibreOffice." "There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues." "LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust." "LibreOffice ... we are all free to live." "LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered." "We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed" Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
FW: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
I like this one. "LibreOffice ... we are all free to live." Or maybe even better in English: LibreOffice ... Free to Live! Or in Spanish: LibreOffice ... Libertad para Vivir! From: Marc Paré [m...@marcpare.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:36 AM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Here are a few of my suggestions: "LibreOffice, a suite deal." "Memories brought to you by LibreOffice" "Take note, with LibreOffice." "Penmanship begins with LibreOffice." "There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues." "LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust." "LibreOffice ... we are all free to live." "LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered." "We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed" Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
One second though, Maybe better for the English version LibreOffice ... Freedom to Live! From: Marc Paré [m...@marcpare.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:36 AM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Here are a few of my suggestions: "LibreOffice, a suite deal." "Memories brought to you by LibreOffice" "Take note, with LibreOffice." "Penmanship begins with LibreOffice." "There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues." "LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust." "LibreOffice ... we are all free to live." "LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered." "We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed" Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
One slogan, loosely translated into languages, would seem best to me. In other words, not a literal translation, but same idea translated. _ From: Brenden Seibel [bsei...@guateconexion.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:49 AM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan One second though, Maybe better for the English version LibreOffice ... Freedom to Live! From: Marc Paré [m...@marcpare.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:36 AM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Here are a few of my suggestions: "LibreOffice, a suite deal." "Memories brought to you by LibreOffice" "Take note, with LibreOffice." "Penmanship begins with LibreOffice." "There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues." "LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust." "LibreOffice ... we are all free to live." "LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered." "We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed" Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 16:41 +, Brenden Seibel wrote: > One slogan, loosely translated into languages, would seem best to me. > In other words, not a literal translation, but same idea translated. Would seem to make sense - I was doodling with ideas over this last weekend also and "Liberate Your Life" came to mind. I used it in a first draft for a poster http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew/miss-liberty-backgrounds Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi, Diego Germán Gonzalez wrote on 2010-11-11 19.24: Obviously I am suscript because I receive all the messages some idea? maybe you're subscribed with a different address? Or you receive the digests, then you have to use marketing+unsubscribe-dig...@libreoffice.org? Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork
Hi Jens, :-) I like your septipus :-) [1] The seven tentacles remind me of the different applications packaged in LibO. This character is one that, IMHO, will easily stay in people's minds, too. And it has all the other possibilities of a "living" mascot. Nice job! Great start, Jens! :-) 1) So that can *become* the logo in its own right? 2) Or else, in large graphics, could one integrate it inside the sheet of paper? 3) Or will Septipus wrap his tentacles *around* the paper sheet? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#Jonata.27s_logo.2Fmime_artwork_proposal David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
Hi Drew, 2010/11/11 Drew Jensen : > On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 16:41 +, Brenden Seibel wrote: >> One slogan, loosely translated into languages, would seem best to me. >> In other words, not a literal translation, but same idea translated. > > Would seem to make sense - I was doodling with ideas over this last > weekend also and "Liberate Your Life" came to mind. I used it in a first > draft for a poster > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew/miss-liberty-backgrounds > Somewhat nice idea, but may I remind you to obey the branding rules: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding Thx Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
Le 2010-11-11 10:36, Marc Paré a écrit : There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Here are a few of my suggestions: "LibreOffice, a suite deal." "Memories brought to you by LibreOffice" "Take note, with LibreOffice." "Penmanship begins with LibreOffice." "There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues." "LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust." "LibreOffice ... we are all free to live." "LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered." "We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed" Marc Some nice ideas. I think the main slogan should remind people that LibreOffice is a series of programs that help one to write, draw, calculate... Maybe I am paranoid, but I think we should avoid: names that remind one of competitive software. So I would not recommend: – Take note... because of OneNote and Lotus Notes – We conquered space... too far away I like: – LibreOffice, a suite deal – With LibreOffice, you really are in control of your documents (i.e. reference to open file formats) – LibreOffice: your documents, you're in control! In French, these would work, depending on how much text we want: – LibreOffice, une suite qui a de la classe – Avec LibreOffice, vous avez plein contrôle, jusqu'au bout ! – LibreOffice vous permet d'être maître de vos documents ! -- Michel Gagnon Montréal (Québec, Canada) -- http://mgagnon.net -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork
Hi David, hi Jens, * David Nelson schrieb: Hi Jens, :-) I like your septipus :-) [1] The seven tentacles remind me of the different applications packaged in LibO. This character is one that, IMHO, will easily stay in people's minds, too. And it has all the other possibilities of a "living" mascot. Nice job! Great start, Jens! :-) 1) So that can *become* the logo in its own right? 2) Or else, in large graphics, could one integrate it inside the sheet of paper? 3) Or will Septipus wrap his tentacles *around* the paper sheet? For small graphics and icons it might be too detailed if it would be used as our main logo. As an additional graphic it might work, even if I don't feel comfortable with tentacles around the corners of my documents... (wrong association - quite the opposite to "libre") [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#Jonata.27s_logo.2Fmime_artwork_proposal Jens' work is presented above the section you link: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#Designs_by_Jens_Habermann_.2801.2F11.2F2010.29 Please scroll down a bit for the septipus. The direct link to the file is here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Septipus.png Best regards Bernhard -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Branding Color Refinement Step 3 of 3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/10/2010 04:35 PM, Johannes Bausch wrote: > I've uploaded information on the three most common vision disabilities. Thanks. jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM3GgjAAoJEOpnmQXT8Ln/iAgH/3VnneugN1BBEtshHnjdbpgv 8zIr1vzn1RfIQfL8ON8Pavz825rWz0IfQ4gTX5J3IjDg+L8OAn8q+rVJUqb7vbEQ T1LJFKmMRgrRsL+zkrhdS7S4cGdEGV1dJiyVA0LVVnapHyZlXVkYXCj+Soyiv8nA bk0mQ84SmTGBVKgPrIW0yC3MUJ03k6UE+JfG1+7hKCdzruZE01KsNMPyovyKhAje PoT6PZ533uSTXXCoIIWWrMi/rLO5BCzm+onIwGwhKFM3fxPGZbU1quUbrBV88XDG jDPS1bEJomi76DZUmDYJSEsTq1gxi/rH3Xaf4eOsSxLKSNSQZXn2xRQNl2rVI2o= =lwYL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Branding Color Refinement Step 3 of 3 (was: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming)
Hi Johannes, very cool! Thanks!!! I had a look at the tables, so is there anything we can suggest to the creators of artwork? For critical content, a useful combination seems to be Green and Purple ... or Blue and Yellow. It would be great if somebody could have another look at it ... it would be great to come up with a list with some suggestions how to create accessible graphics with the given colors. @ Johannes: How did you the comparison - I usually used Gimp filters for offline comparison, but it is a bit clumsy, since it doesn't provide (simple) saving to files. Cheers, Christoph Am Mittwoch, den 10.11.2010, 17:35 +0100 schrieb Johannes Bausch: > > The color files still miss some testing - so please give them a try. But > > not only the compatibility, also some color blindness issue descriptions > > would help a lot! > > I've uploaded information on the three most common vision > disabilities. The link is right below your color table. > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Color_blindness_issues > > Joey > -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 20:53 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: > Somewhat nice idea, but may I remind you to obey the branding rules: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding sure - that is part of why I placed it up here - do you think it fails? How could I make it pass - or you just want to see draft 2 and see if it is closer? Thanks drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Welcome to marketing@libreoffice.org
Hi David, welcome Andy! Andy, as you sent similar mails to the different mailing lists you subscribed to, it seems that we really lack in communication about the topic of the different lists as well as how to use them in general. So we should create a wiki page (might be moved over to the website later on) containing the necessary information. David Nelson schrieb: Hi Andy, :-) [...] Are you interested in developing content for http://test.documentfoundation.org? You probably mean the LibreOffice website (actually at http://test.libreoffice.org) instead of the TDF website. [...] Im newish to the mailing list for LibreOffice, but I would like to offer some help with LibreOffice in some shape or form going forward (but not programming at the moment). That's the way most of us are trying to support LibreOffice. [...] I mainly come from an administration background in work, but am moving more and more to my preferred role as IT becomes more utilised in my work place. If you could suggest some areas which I can assist in longterm, or suggestions, or have any questions or need any more information please email me. As you probably found out by now, we post our replies, suggestions and questions to the mailing list address and the list servers distributes them to all the people subscribed to the list. This is better than PM (personal mail) in most cases, because other people can join the discussion or know that the question has been replied already. The only one able to find out the right area for your contribution is just yourself. As David already mentioned, it depends on your interests - technical skills as you mention might be very helpful in QA (quality assurance) and documentation (network install and things like that), but these topics are discussed on dedicated mailing lists (I don't know if you are subscribed to libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org or documentat...@libreoffice.org). Here in marketing we work on different ways to improve public recognition for LibO, on branding and visual design and so on. Im not to sure of how best to start the LibreOffice community but am open for direction to the correct people etc. There are quite a number of interesting threads (follow-ups of mails created by replying to an existent mail - most mail clients allow to sort the mails by these threads) discussed here on the list (and on the other lists you subscribed to). Feel free to share your thoughts on these topics by replying to any interesting mail. To start a new topic, don't reply to an existent mail, but create a new mail and send it to the mailing list. Best regards Bernhard -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?
Hi all, in the today's marketing conference call (Agenda at [1]), some people mentioned that the number of mails and the diversity of topics is a bit too much for a single mailing list like marketing. So my (unofficial) question is, whether you think that another communication channel (mailing list, in the first step) might help. What do you think? Personally, I think that the combination of topics like "artwork", "usability", "branding", "visual design", ... would make sense. On the one hand, it prevents coming up with far too many lists", on the other hand, it might engage collaboration of those, who hadn't the chance to work together (in the past). An additional rationale is that there are already some other people ready to join - a separate mailing list would make it more easy for them to follow the topics. Cheers, Christoph PS: "Unofficial question" (see above) means, that I am interested in what you think about that. Once we are clear what to do, we might ask the SC to set this up ... but not if we consider this unhelpful. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls#Agenda -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?
Hi Christoph, all, Christoph Noack schrieb: Hi all, in the today's marketing conference call (Agenda at [1]), some people mentioned that the number of mails and the diversity of topics is a bit too much for a single mailing list like marketing. So my (unofficial) question is, whether you think that another communication channel (mailing list, in the first step) might help. What do you think? Personally, I think that the combination of topics like "artwork", "usability", "branding", "visual design", ... would make sense. On the one hand, it prevents coming up with far too many lists", on the other hand, it might engage collaboration of those, who hadn't the chance to work together (in the past). I agree that it is not easy to follow the threads on the topics you mention, but from our experience with the OOo Art project and even more the Branding Initiative there are important topics to be shared between the "general marketing" guys and the "designers/artist" working on branding and visual design. Perhaps it could be a compromise to add dedicated [TAG]s to the subject of artwork, UX and design related topics, so they can be found very easily while not leaving the marketing list. I'd propose to use the tag [DESIGN], as it covers not only artwork, branding and visual design, but usability design and UI design too. If this tag is not sufficient to differ these topics from general marketing, we should definitely ask for a dedicated list (and consistent with the tag I'd call it des...@libreoffice.org - what actually has been Christoph's idea I present now shamelessly) Best regards Bernhard -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
Hi Marc, all,
this topic is one I like very much :-)
A few years back we had a similar activity in the OOo marketing project
with lots of proposals, a voting and finally one official slogan
(positioner) for OpenOffice.org. ("Open. For Business")
(Search the OOo marketing list archive for "positioner")
Marc Paré schrieb:
There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different
words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO?
Definitively yes!
Should we develop a
different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan
for languages?
Most of the slogans don't translate easily. But we should try to find a
common central conclusion.
Here are a few of my suggestions:
"LibreOffice, a suite deal."
"Memories brought to you by LibreOffice"
"Take note, with LibreOffice."
"Penmanship begins with LibreOffice."
"There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution
continues."
"LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust."
"LibreOffice ... we are all free to live."
"LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered."
"We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you
will succeed"
Marc
Would you mind to position them on a new wiki page?
As the list will probably become longer, it might be problematical to
work on them here at the list.
Best regards
Bernhard
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
Drew Jensen schrieb: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 20:53 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: Somewhat nice idea, but may I remind you to obey the branding rules: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding sure - that is part of why I placed it up here - do you think it fails? How could I make it pass - or you just want to see draft 2 and see if it is closer? ... wrong font (Didn't you mention you used the SVG source of the logo?) ... wrong aspect ratio (probably related to the point above) ... bold "Office" part ... dark background Please have a look at the "Guidelines and Best Practices" areas on the wiki page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_2 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_3 As these rules are not carved in stone, they might be adjusted if reasonable / necessary. Best regards Bernhard -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 01:16 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > Drew Jensen schrieb: > > On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 20:53 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: > >> Somewhat nice idea, but may I remind you to obey the branding rules: > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding > > > > sure - that is part of why I placed it up here - do you think it fails? > > > > How could I make it pass - or you just want to see draft 2 and see if it > > is closer? > > > ... wrong font (Didn't you mention you used the SVG source of the logo?) Yup that is it, it is directly from the logo. > > ... wrong aspect ratio (probably related to the point above) This is the problem - I didn't take the time to qualify the ratio, just pulled it out for a basic layout pass. > > ... bold "Office" part hmm - yes noticed that, I think the svg file is out of date on that..isn't it? I figured the one I was using form the wiki currently was, so didn't really sweat it yet. > > ... dark background Yes - it is, but surely we aren't going to pass on all dark backgrounds- I can use the white out logo but it really doesn't come across as well, IMO in a big way - still I can put one together and put it up to compare against. I also have a second background that might work for the event, it has a better local tie, but the Statue of Liberty (even the iconic tourist novelty rendition) is a very powerful image for the USA. Also, I faux lightened the background with a transparency overlay - but that is a terrible solution I think, so for a next pass would play a bit with lightning the background image a bit and lose the added layer. > > Please have a look at the "Guidelines and Best Practices" areas on the > wiki page: I have, and will again. I sure appreciate everyones feed back or if anyone has some great tip to give given the subject (dark background) matter I'm really open to hearing it. > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_2 > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_3 > > As these rules are not carved in stone, they might be adjusted if > reasonable / necessary. later then, Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 19:39 -0500, Drew Jensen wrote: > ... dark background > > Yes - it is, but surely we aren't going to pass on all dark > backgrounds- > I can use the white out logo but it really doesn't come across as > well, > IMO in a big way Then again if I put the whole logo in place http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Miss-liberty-2.png that's not bad. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Res: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?
Hello Marc and all, I put on my record another version of the logo Libo. This time I made the plane with scribbles to convey a larger idea of liberty and deviate slightly from the images of other logos that have paper airplane. Libo was added words and TDF on the plane as shown in the magnified image. Link: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rht5jt8ISZiVAHIbyJ_Qbg?feat=directlink Até mais, Lucas Filho Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços http://www.open-ce.com.br ::@strogildo - Educação a distância http://astrogildo.blogspot.com Coordenador Estadual GUBRO-Ceará http://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce Blog Pessoal http://lucasfilho.blogspot.com Agradecemos a Deus por tudo - Mensagem original De: Marc Paré Para: marketing@libreoffice.org Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 5 de Novembro de 2010 1:47:18 Assunto: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon? Le 2010-11-05 00:12, Lucas Filho a écrit : > Hello Community, > > I did some sketches using the idea of the paper airplane and a small set of > icons, We provide the link [1]. > > Drafts and are not bothered with the sample color palette. > > There are two versions A and B. And I'd like to see other examples of the same > element. And whether the idea of the paper airplane must evolve or not so > that >I > and other friends are not redoing something that can not be used. > > [1]:http://picasaweb.google.com/lucascoe/Diversos?feat=directlink > > > Hi Lucas: A 01 and B 01 - I don't particularly like the back view of the plane I do like however the other icons with the trailing tail. This is quite unique as I have not seen any other paper plane icons with this. It shows movement. Of the 2 sets, I like the A02 with the shorter trailing tail and shaded plane. Small sets: A01, I like without colour fill. I wonder how it would look like with a trailing tail? Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Res: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
Hello, I think the picture with a lot of "fantasy". In this link we have very interesting pictures of the Statue of Liberty that can be used freely (please see details for each image you will use). Link: http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=search&w=1&txt=Statue+of+Liberty&p=1 Até mais, Lucas Filho Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços http://www.open-ce.com.br ::@strogildo - Educação a distância http://astrogildo.blogspot.com Coordenador Estadual GUBRO-Ceará http://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce Blog Pessoal http://lucasfilho.blogspot.com Agradecemos a Deus por tudo - Mensagem original De: Drew Jensen Para: marketing@libreoffice.org Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 11 de Novembro de 2010 21:39:26 Assunto: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 01:16 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > Drew Jensen schrieb: > > On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 20:53 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: > >> Somewhat nice idea, but may I remind you to obey the branding rules: > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding > > > > sure - that is part of why I placed it up here - do you think it fails? > > > > How could I make it pass - or you just want to see draft 2 and see if it > > is closer? > > > ... wrong font (Didn't you mention you used the SVG source of the logo?) Yup that is it, it is directly from the logo. > > ... wrong aspect ratio (probably related to the point above) This is the problem - I didn't take the time to qualify the ratio, just pulled it out for a basic layout pass. > > ... bold "Office" part hmm - yes noticed that, I think the svg file is out of date on that..isn't it? I figured the one I was using form the wiki currently was, so didn't really sweat it yet. > > ... dark background Yes - it is, but surely we aren't going to pass on all dark backgrounds- I can use the white out logo but it really doesn't come across as well, IMO in a big way - still I can put one together and put it up to compare against. I also have a second background that might work for the event, it has a better local tie, but the Statue of Liberty (even the iconic tourist novelty rendition) is a very powerful image for the USA. Also, I faux lightened the background with a transparency overlay - but that is a terrible solution I think, so for a next pass would play a bit with lightning the background image a bit and lose the added layer. > > Please have a look at the "Guidelines and Best Practices" areas on the > wiki page: I have, and will again. I sure appreciate everyones feed back or if anyone has some great tip to give given the subject (dark background) matter I'm really open to hearing it. > >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_2 >2 > >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_3 >3 > > As these rules are not carved in stone, they might be adjusted if > reasonable / necessary. later then, Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Res: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 19:06 -0800, Lucas Filho wrote: > In this link we have very interesting pictures of the Statue of > Liberty that can > be used freely (please see details for each image you will use). > > Link: http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=search&w=1&txt=Statue+of > +Liberty&p=1 Thanks Lucas, I will look those over. Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 21:26 -0500, Drew Jensen wrote: > Then again if I put the whole logo in place > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Miss-liberty-2.png > > that's not bad. and here is the alternative background I was thinking of. http://oucv.org/libreoffice/scale-9x-griffith-poster-2.png (That is a shot of Los Angeles from the Griffith Observatory) The background image is from http://www.flickr.com/photos/nevercoolinschool/2785475907/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Thanks Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork
Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:54, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > For small graphics and icons it might be too detailed if it would be used as > our main logo. As an additional graphic it might work, even if I don't feel > comfortable with tentacles around the corners of my documents... (wrong > association - quite the opposite to "libre") I'll post some re-sized versions on the wiki, so we can get an idea of how Septipus looks at diffent sizes. I suspect he might become difficult to clearly distinguish at sizes below 32x32px. (Or 48x48px?) Whether or not Septipus could become the project's prime logo is a something we'd need to sound out here on the marketing/artwork list. (And also maybe with our end users on the [tdf-discuss]/user support lists, too?) However, Septipus could be a great central figure for the LibO starter pane, either as a side graphic or else right in the middle, with a tentacle pointing to each app or icon in the starter pane. Maybe the apps could be in a kind-of circular arrangement around him. Ultimately, I'd suggest naming this mascot LibO. 0.2 cents. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibO Slogan
Le 2010-11-11 23:07, Drew Jensen a écrit : On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 21:26 -0500, Drew Jensen wrote: Then again if I put the whole logo in place http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Miss-liberty-2.png that's not bad. and here is the alternative background I was thinking of. http://oucv.org/libreoffice/scale-9x-griffith-poster-2.png (That is a shot of Los Angeles from the Griffith Observatory) The background image is from http://www.flickr.com/photos/nevercoolinschool/2785475907/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Thanks Drew Hi Drew: Nice! I like this one better. I wonder if the Southern California people would have a better reception to this background rather than the NY Statue of Liberty. Usually, geographic areas have unspoken competition issues with other geographic areas Southern California vs NY. Or am I wrong? Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibO Slogan
Hi, :-) "Do what you want" David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibO Slogan
Le 2010-11-11 15:34, Michel Gagnon a écrit : Some nice ideas. I think the main slogan should remind people that LibreOffice is a series of programs that help one to write, draw, calculate... Maybe I am paranoid, but I think we should avoid: names that remind one of competitive software. Agree strongly. As well, avoid any negatives. So I would not recommend: – Take note... because of OneNote and Lotus Notes I had not thought of notes this way but yes. – We conquered space... too far away Play on words ... not spatial space. LOL I like: – LibreOffice, a suite deal – With LibreOffice, you really are in control of your documents (i.e. reference to open file formats) – LibreOffice: your documents, you're in control! In French, these would work, depending on how much text we want: – LibreOffice, une suite qui a de la classe Also: LibreOffice, toute suite!" – Avec LibreOffice, vous avez plein contrôle, jusqu'au bout ! – LibreOffice vous permet d'être maître de vos documents ! Merci Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibO Slogan
Le 2010-11-11 11:41, Brenden Seibel a écrit : One slogan, loosely translated into languages, would seem best to me. In other words, not a literal translation, but same idea translated. Thanks I have added this to the wiki page that I am creating for LibO Slogans. Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?
Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:57, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > I agree that it is not easy to follow the threads on the topics you mention, > but from our experience with the OOo Art project and even more the Branding > Initiative there are important topics to be shared between the "general > marketing" guys and the "designers/artist" working on branding and visual > design. My idea would be that we shouldn't get *too* granular about this. I'd see two lists: 1) Marketing (event organization, flyers, templates, certification planning/design, etc) and 2) Artwork (technical graphics, branding graphics, mime graphics, UX, UI, etc). Obviously, there are quite a few subjects of overlapping interest, so having just two lists makes it easier for people to monitor both but primarily contribute to the list more central to their particular area of expertise. > Perhaps it could be a compromise to add dedicated [TAG]s to the subject of > artwork, UX and design related topics, so they can be found very easily > while not leaving the marketing list. Tags depend on *posting discipline*, and this seems to break down fairly quickly after one lays down the ground rules... Further to the discussions during to the conference call, my POV concerning "communications channels" is that lists don't make a good information storage medium. People quote badly, people go OT, people rant, and ideas and info easily get lost in the noise. They *can* be good for brainstorming. But very soon after each important thread reaches a natural conclusion, someone needs to collate and summarize the results and then post them to the wiki. Really, personally, I prefer forums. I know different people have different preferences, though. (Google Wave is also great for brainstorming, in many ways, but takes some getting used to, and also demands "posting discipline".) It's useful to have an "IM" medium, too, as a complement for the above. IMHO, communal Skype chats are better than IRC: easier for many people to access and use. Plus a great feature of Skype chats is that you can *unsay and edit* your posts when you say something stupid/incorrect/regrettable. I really enjoy the conference calls, and feel that those discussions facilitate good communication and enable quick arrival at a conclusion about the topic under discussion (*providing* that people maintain good discipline). I'd definitely like to see these continue regularly. HTH. 0.2 cents. :-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?
P.S. If it's not already done, I'd recommend that TDF set-up Google Apps for documentfoundation.org and/or libreoffice.org. There's a host of really useful stuff for collaboration, etc. Plus you can fulfill your mail needs without busting your heads configuring and maintaining a mail server. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [DESIGN] Poster - [was: LibO Slogan]
Hi Drew, Drew Jensen wrote: > On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 01:16 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > Drew Jensen schrieb: > > > On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 20:53 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: > > >> Somewhat nice idea, but may I remind you to obey the branding rules: > > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding > > > > > > sure - that is part of why I placed it up here - do you think it fails? > > > > > > How could I make it pass - or you just want to see draft 2 and see if it > > > is closer? > > > > > ... wrong font (Didn't you mention you used the SVG source of the logo?) > Yup that is it, it is directly from the logo. Probably you used the version with text (left on the SVG) instead of the one turned into paths. If you imported in in Draw, the font might have been replaced by your standard font (Liberation sans?), while the differentiation between bold and regular text wasn't imported correctly. This is obviously our fault - we shouldn't provide the text version at all... > > > > > ... wrong aspect ratio (probably related to the point above) > This is the problem - I didn't take the time to qualify the ratio, just > pulled it out for a basic layout pass. Same as above - should work without problems if you take the path version > > > > > ... bold "Office" part > hmm - yes noticed that, I think the svg file is out of date on > that..isn't it? I figured the one I was using form the wiki currently > was, so didn't really sweat it yet. Not really out of date, just providing one version too much ;-) > > > > > ... dark background > > Yes - it is, but surely we aren't going to pass on all dark backgrounds- This is a general problem with logos on colored backgrounds / photos. >From the branding aspect it should stand alone, not merged with the background (and without adding shadows, 3D-effects and so on). It would work, if the logo would be taken as unity with a white background area - placing it as an opaque graphical element (with fading borders, if appropriate) on top of the image. But this will create a different general impression of the general design. It's always a question about the importance of a strict branding design comparted to the creative liberty of artists. As we are the one to define it for LibreOffice, it's up to us to decide about the priorities. > I can use the white out logo but it really doesn't come across as well, > IMO in a big way - still I can put one together and put it up to compare > against. Saw the link in your next mail (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Miss-liberty-2.png): It keeps the language of the poster while being more consistent with the branding. I'd just propose to use the Vegur font (link at the branding wiki page) for the additional text: Might improve the general impression even better. Best regards Bernhard -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
