Re: [libreoffice-marketing] remove
Hi Tom, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-03-03 13.38: Ok, so it seems to be another problem that some people do have and some people don't. I have noticed that Windows users seem to have the problem and i have seen it in Ubuntu. Perhaps it is just Yahoo misbehaving again. I have written to Yahoo customer support a number of times about various issues but have never heard back. There is a user forum but their answers are along the lines the lines of Look, ponies. I was hoping their new beta testing might accept user-input or just be fixed but sadly not. Still they are very popular and used by a LOT of people so we need to be able to work with them in some way rather than blaming users for the faults created by organisations. I agree that it's sad that so many users are affected -- or in theory could be affected, as it seems that this problem doesn't occur for everyone. Christian Lohmaier wrote it works for him, so having some more feedback on this (which we should discuss on the website list probably) would be helpful to nail down the issue. :) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: Texas LinuxFest and Libre Office
Another person with an excellent name. The correct Tom is Tom King, not me! Regards from Tom :) From: sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com To: marketing@libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 4 March, 2011 5:21:17 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: Texas LinuxFest and Libre Office Hi all, Could you please keep in contact with Tom if you're planing to organize something for texaslinuxfest? Thanks in advance kind regards Sophie Original Message Subject: Texas LinuxFest and Libre Office Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:44:53 -0600 From: Tom King king...@tomslinux.homelinux.org To: i...@documentfoundation.org Greetings! I'm on the planning committee for the 2011 Texas LinuxFest (www.texaslinuxfest.org) coming up in April and would like to see if anyone in the Foundation would be able to give a presentation. If you cannot give a definite topic but would like to at least reserve a segment, please let me know as soon as you are able. Thanks! Tom King Concern for man and his fate must always form the chief interest of all technical endeavors. Never forget this in the midst of your diagrams and equations. --Albert Einstein -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] help please - accessibility info
Hi Charles, all, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2011-03-03 12:12 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I do not want to be a part of the Accessibility List, but I would like to know what is being done to help those with this type of issue. Wrong list. If you want to learn about whales, you don't ask about them on the telephones list. Wrong assumption. Marketing is about spreading LibreOffice and thus about spreading information about it's features. Even if the disabled are a marketing area neglected by many other products - I don't think that we need to follow this way. In the opposite: We should consider Accessibility Marketing as an important part of our strategy. If we didn't by now, this is neither Timothy's nor any other's fault. Wrong comparison. He doesn't want to learn to talk to whales, but asks for information about whales on the list of a mammal research institute. Wrong tone. If you don't have any *positive* contribution it is far better to shut up and let others comment his request. Providing him with the necessary links to find out himself as Drew did would have helped much. And using this posting as basis for the creation of a dedicated marketing activity about accessibility would be even better... Best regards Bernhard PS: And if you think it is better to subscribe to a list and unsubscribe after a few days - that's your opinion and you could have told this in a friendly manner. Do you know how easy it is for impaired people? I don't - and neither me nor you have the right to judge. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] help please - accessibility info
On 03/04/2011 09:09 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Charles, all, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2011-03-03 12:12 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I do not want to be a part of the Accessibility List, but I would like to know what is being done to help those with this type of issue. Wrong list. If you want to learn about whales, you don't ask about them on the telephones list. Wrong assumption. Marketing is about spreading LibreOffice and thus about spreading information about it's features. Even if the disabled are a marketing area neglected by many other products - I don't think that we need to follow this way. In the opposite: We should consider Accessibility Marketing as an important part of our strategy. If we didn't by now, this is neither Timothy's nor any other's fault. Thanks Bernhard. I get ticked-off [I would use other language, but not here] when people do not seem to want to deal with helping people with accessibility issues within their packages. As I understand it, from staff on agencies that work with the disables/impaired individuals, the numbers of individuals needing accessibility options is a growing percent of the population in the USA. I am one of those individuals. I have learned to compensate for my issues since the early 1970's. My typing skill is affected but back when I started typing, there was no options to use to help people. With the spread of speech-to-screen computer controlling packages, this helps many individuals, but not me. My speech is also affected since my first stroke. But, I deal with it my own way. So it would be nice to get information to be passed on to those agency staffers. I did get someone to point me to a wiki page to help me see the goals of the LibreOffice Accessibility work. I thank that individual for his help. Wrong comparison. He doesn't want to learn to talk to whales, but asks for information about whales on the list of a mammal research institute. Wrong tone. If you don't have any *positive* contribution it is far better to shut up and let others comment his request. Providing him with the necessary links to find out himself as Drew did would have helped much. And using this posting as basis for the creation of a dedicated marketing activity about accessibility would be even better... Best regards Bernhard PS: And if you think it is better to subscribe to a list and unsubscribe after a few days - that's your opinion and you could have told this in a friendly manner. Do you know how easy it is for impaired people? I don't - and neither me nor you have the right to judge. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: help please - accessibility info
Le 2011-03-03 18:03, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : On 03/03/2011 04:44 PM, drew wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 16:42 -0500, drew wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 16:16 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Someone on this list must know where I can get my answers without subscribing to the various list. Ok - let's start here - have you looked at the wiki page? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility If you start with that page, what other information are you looking for? sorry for answering myself - but - for one thing the extensions information is well a bit weak, the information regarding ODTBraille.oxt is not present and the others lacking, IMO. I was even given that information. Hi Tim: I am on the accessibility list as well. I have to say that the traffic is quite low for now (2-3 messages/month) although the members are quite knowledgeable. The list is quite a new area for me and I joined out of curiosity about accessibility considerations in LibreOffice. It sounds like the Accessibility area of our main website is perhaps not as descriptive and informative as it should be. I'll leave a note on the list asking if some of the members could take a look at the page to see if there is a need for more information. Perhaps we are not that strong in this area and it is reflected by the amount of information provided on the website page. I'm not sure. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: help please - accessibility info
Le 2011-03-04 11:41, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : But back to the Accessibility issue. It would be nice to be known as an organization the cares about the needs of better accessibility for software packages. Though it is a small market group, it seems to be good press. And the more good press LibreOffice gets, the better it is, Right? I am not sure about different jurisdictions or countries, but in some, to be considered for institutional installation, the software must comply to certain accessibility rules/laws. I believe the accessibility aspect of LibreOffice is not really a choice it is part of being accepted as a serious contender in the office suite arena. And yes, we should be putting in advertising/marketing any aspect that the LibreOffice suite fills now and sometimes a hint of things to come, as you suggest, would perhaps be better enticement for governments to consider adopting the suite for their institutions. Thanks for the reminder. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Fundraising Challenge Continues Flyer
For anyone interested, I have left a copy of a LibreOffice Fundraising Challenge Continues Flyer on the Marketing pages for download[1]. It is in grey-scale, fits landscape and cut in half. The information on the left hand side is the same as on the right hand side. I have also left the banner .svg (editable in Inkscape) for NL groups who would wish to modify the banner language to their own. The flyer is a modification of the one used at the SCALE conference. The Flyer is suitable for conferences, LUG meetings etc. Feel free to use. Let us know if you need help with the banner in Inkscape. BTW ... For those who have not done so in a while, you may want to visit the Marketing pages to check up on anything new on those pages. Feel free to suggest any items that you would like to see on these pages. [2] Cheers Marc [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Challenge [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: help please - accessibility info
On 03/04/2011 01:36 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-03-04 11:41, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : But back to the Accessibility issue. It would be nice to be known as an organization the cares about the needs of better accessibility for software packages. Though it is a small market group, it seems to be good press. And the more good press LibreOffice gets, the better it is, Right? I am not sure about different jurisdictions or countries, but in some, to be considered for institutional installation, the software must comply to certain accessibility rules/laws. I believe the accessibility aspect of LibreOffice is not really a choice it is part of being accepted as a serious contender in the office suite arena. Microsoft Office relies on Windows to do everything for accessibility. Linux and MacOSX has built in or add on accessibility options external to the software packages. I tried to get a Windows machine to work for a lady that needed very large fonts and such so she can read. I know a doctor that uses a special magnifying device to read his 30 inch computer screen to use the medical office's required MS based system. If we can tell people that we are easier to set up the accessibility options that what it takes to get MSO to work, that would be a big win for the agencies that need such accessibility for their clients. At least have GOOD documents helping get all the currently available accessibility options working for our users needs. That is much more that MS offers for their systems, the last time I looked for such documentation. The more that LibreOffice proves they care about their users, unlike the 600 pound gorilla company who proves they do not care about the users except for heir money. Just that one point, we care about our users office suite needs and wants, will make LibreOffice a better option than MS is. Accessibility is just part of that we care statement. And yes, we should be putting in advertising/marketing any aspect that the LibreOffice suite fills now and sometimes a hint of things to come, as you suggest, would perhaps be better enticement for governments to consider adopting the suite for their institutions. Now that the White House [i.e. USA Government] supports Open Source, that might help with the USA market. The UK government seems to support open source as well. Now we just need them to support LibreOffice by name. Thanks for the reminder. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
