[libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants opinion on how good it is

2011-11-15 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I received an email today.  It looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants 
my opinion on how good it is.


Since Symphony is based on OOo's code and now OOo is now a product of 
the group that created Apache, it may be that the next OOo will be 
coming out soon, or IBM did not wait and just did their own updating.  
Maybe they decided to take some of LO's coding instead of OOo's?


I could be wrong, but why else would I get an email after all this time 
asking me how I like Symphony?


Still, I am a LibreOffice user and do not think I will switch in the 
foreseeable future, unless the programmers of LO goes on strike or 
something.  Oh wait, the cannot strike since they are all volunteers and 
dedicated volunteers never would do anything like striking.  They 
would just make a new fork.  I doubt that would happen with the way the 
people who are in control are so positive and want to help the 
programmers, marketers, and users as much as possible, unlike some 
open-source groups I have dealt with.


So, maybe someone might want to look at Symphony and see what they have 
to offer.  Then we can have information about OOo and Symphony compared 
to LibreOffice.  That way we can say how much better LO is and have 
proof based upon the other package's performance info.


I still think we need a check list chart comparing LO with all of the 
other open-source office suites, plus MS Office.  That way the marketers 
can have the info in the style that people are use to.  Most package web 
sites have check lists showing what each version has compared to the 
others that they offer.  MSO has one for its product line of office 
suites.  It would be nice to see one created and maintained for LibreOffice.






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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants opinion on how good it is

2011-11-15 Thread Ian Lynch
 I still think we need a check list chart comparing LO with all of the
 other open-source office suites, plus MS Office.


I'd include Google Docs in that since it is getting more and more use,
especially the spreadsheet because of the convenience of collaboration.

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Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: donation page

2011-11-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/15/11 6:33 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants opinion on how good it is

2011-11-15 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Perhaps 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_office_suites#Comparison_of_general_and_technical_information
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants 
opinion on how good it is
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 15 November, 2011, 14:25

 I still think we need a check list chart comparing LO with all of the
 other open-source office suites, plus MS Office.


I'd include Google Docs in that since it is getting more and more use,
especially the spreadsheet because of the convenience of collaboration.

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Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and
Wales.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants opinion on how good it is

2011-11-15 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


What I really was thinking about is a more detailed comparison list.

This list would have things like
read/write .docx files
able to use JPEG 2000 image files
edits PDF files
list of popular formal types
list of transition effects for Impress vs PowerPoint

and things like that for each module of LO vs MSO and other office 
packages.  Give details of the capabilities of LO and what it is 
comparing to.  The lists in the link below is not detailed enough.  Also 
it states there is not image viewer for LO.  I thought Draw was a viewer 
and editor.


It is nice to have some simple package comparisons, but more and more 
users are concerned with specific details about it LO or any other free 
package can do the specific type of work they need to do.  That include 
file types for read/writing, importing of various image files, formulas 
and macros, etc., etc..  This list would show that LO exports to PDF 
directly, which MSO did not do the last time I used it.


The idea of cross platform use - Windows, Mac, Linux OSs - is nice, but 
since more people will be concerned with Windows-only operation, it 
needs lists of operation functions, and other things that is needed by 
their day to day work needs.  Specifics.


The linked list is a start, but having a side by side function 
comparison between Writer and Word, Calc and Excel, etc., is needed.


On 11/15/2011 05:36 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Perhaps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_office_suites#Comparison_of_general_and_technical_information
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 15/11/11, Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com  wrote:

From: Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants 
opinion on how good it is
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 15 November, 2011, 14:25


I still think we need a check list chart comparing LO with all of the
other open-source office suites, plus MS Office.


I'd include Google Docs in that since it is getting more and more use,
especially the spreadsheet because of the convenience of collaboration.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants opinion on how good it is

2011-11-15 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It is possible to use the existing resource and just add to it.  WIki's are 
fairly easy to edit although tables are a bit weird.
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants 
opinion on how good it is
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 15 November, 2011, 23:09


What I really was thinking about is a more detailed comparison list.

This list would have things like
read/write .docx files
able to use JPEG 2000 image files
edits PDF files
list of popular formal types
list of transition effects for Impress vs PowerPoint

and things like that for each module of LO vs MSO and other office packages.  
Give details of the capabilities of LO and what it is comparing to.  The lists 
in the link below is not detailed enough.  Also it states there is not image 
viewer for LO.  I thought Draw was a viewer and editor.

It is nice to have some simple package comparisons, but more and more users are 
concerned with specific details about it LO or any other free package can do 
the specific type of work they need to do.  That include file types for 
read/writing, importing of various image files, formulas and macros, etc., 
etc..  This list would show that LO exports to PDF directly, which MSO did not 
do the last time I used it.

The idea of cross platform use - Windows, Mac, Linux OSs - is nice, but since 
more people will be concerned with Windows-only operation, it needs lists of 
operation functions, and other things that is needed by their day to day work 
needs.  Specifics.

The linked list is a start, but having a side by side function comparison 
between Writer and Word, Calc and Excel, etc., is needed.

On 11/15/2011 05:36 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Perhaps
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_office_suites#Comparison_of_general_and_technical_information
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 --- On Tue, 15/11/11, Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 From: Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants 
 opinion on how good it is
 To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 15 November, 2011, 14:25
 
 I still think we need a check list chart comparing LO with all of the
 other open-source office suites, plus MS Office.
 
 I'd include Google Docs in that since it is getting more and more use,
 especially the spreadsheet because of the convenience of collaboration.
 


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants opinion on how good it is

2011-11-15 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

Yes
Tables in Wiki's are weird.

The problem for me is I do not have any MSO copies to deal with.  I 
already used my one trial of MSO-2010 to do some conversions from 
complex .docx files to the standard .doc files.  I did this last years 
before LO ever came out.  What we need is someone with both LO and MSO 
experience, and software, to fill in the check list comparisons people 
come up with.


I do not use LO or MSO 2003 [when I had it] heavily or with business 
needs and business functions. I do more simple documents over complex 
ones.  I do little with Calc or Impress, and almost no work with Draw.  
So I could not help with that either.  We need people who use each 
module to their limits, or at least with a large number of common functions.


I am not that type of user anymore.

On 11/15/2011 06:12 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It is possible to use the existing resource and just add to it.  WIki's are 
fairly easy to edit although tables are a bit weird.
Regards from
Tom :)

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Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants 
opinion on how good it is
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 15 November, 2011, 23:09


What I really was thinking about is a more detailed comparison list.

This list would have things like
read/write .docx files
able to use JPEG 2000 image files
edits PDF files
list of popular formal types
list of transition effects for Impress vs PowerPoint

and things like that for each module of LO vs MSO and other office packages.  
Give details of the capabilities of LO and what it is comparing to.  The lists 
in the link below is not detailed enough.  Also it states there is not image 
viewer for LO.  I thought Draw was a viewer and editor.

It is nice to have some simple package comparisons, but more and more users are 
concerned with specific details about it LO or any other free package can do 
the specific type of work they need to do.  That include file types for 
read/writing, importing of various image files, formulas and macros, etc., 
etc..  This list would show that LO exports to PDF directly, which MSO did not 
do the last time I used it.

The idea of cross platform use - Windows, Mac, Linux OSs - is nice, but since 
more people will be concerned with Windows-only operation, it needs lists of 
operation functions, and other things that is needed by their day to day work 
needs.  Specifics.

The linked list is a start, but having a side by side function comparison 
between Writer and Word, Calc and Excel, etc., is needed.

On 11/15/2011 05:36 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Perhaps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_office_suites#Comparison_of_general_and_technical_information
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 15/11/11, Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com   wrote:

From: Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] looks like OOo based IBM Symphony wants 
opinion on how good it is
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 15 November, 2011, 14:25


I still think we need a check list chart comparing LO with all of the
other open-source office suites, plus MS Office.

I'd include Google Docs in that since it is getting more and more use,
especially the spreadsheet because of the convenience of collaboration.



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