date:20120609


I would like to propose this:

That the "LibreOffice in the Press" entries be input into a Google 
Calendar that could be read both on the wiki as well as on the website. 
The location of the link on the website would be under the "About Us" 
button next to the "Events Calendar" button.


This will serve the purpose of raising the profile of the "LibreOffice 
in the Press" page; allow visitors to the website to better see our 
mention in the press in a more visual way; the occasions where we record 
LibreOffice in the press material will be listed in a calendar sort, 
allowing visitors to better pick reading materials closer to a release 
date where it really matters to them (we could make note on the calendar 
of the different release dates as reference dates).


The present "LibreOffice in the Press" is really not being used for any 
purpose other than the occasional dissection for marketing purposes. 
This will raise its profile on our website and create more of a "buzz" 
for the product. We could still pull data from this form of reporting 
for marketing purposes.


How would the press clippings would be entered would be organized the 
same way as the events calendar which is the marketing team members 
would take care of the calendar management, and, we could ask for extra 
help from members to admin the calendar (just as we did with the events 
calendar).


Cheers,

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

2012-06-09 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Marc,

2012/6/9 Marc Paré 

> I would like to propose this:
>
> That the "LibreOffice in the Press" entries be input into a Google
> Calendar that could be read both on the wiki as well as on the website. The
> location of the link on the website would be under the "About Us" button
> next to the "Events Calendar" button.
>
> This will serve the purpose of raising the profile of the "LibreOffice in
> the Press" page; allow visitors to the website to better see our mention in
> the press in a more visual way; the occasions where we record LibreOffice
> in the press material will be listed in a calendar sort, allowing visitors
> to better pick reading materials closer to a release date where it really
> matters to them (we could make note on the calendar of the different
> release dates as reference dates).
>
> The present "LibreOffice in the Press" is really not being used for any
> purpose other than the occasional dissection for marketing purposes. This
> will raise its profile on our website and create more of a "buzz" for the
> product. We could still pull data from this form of reporting for marketing
> purposes.
>
> How would the press clippings would be entered would be organized the same
> way as the events calendar which is the marketing team members would take
> care of the calendar management, and, we could ask for extra help from
> members to admin the calendar (just as we did with the events calendar).
>



+1 from my side.

Thanks,

Charles.


>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

Hi :)
No-one would update it.  There are so many articles and things out there that 
it is easier just to do a google search if you need a list of articles.  

People who do get articles published have said they wouldn't want to update the 
wiki because they felt it would be inappropriate for them to promote their 
articles.  

Back when the page was created there was a need for it but now it's only really 
used as a historical record.  Now it would just absorb resources that would be 
better used elsewhere.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 9/6/12, Marc Paré  wrote:

From: Marc Paré 
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 9 June, 2012, 9:10

I would like to propose this:

That the "LibreOffice in the Press" entries be input into a Google Calendar 
that could be read both on the wiki as well as on the website. The location of 
the link on the website would be under the "About Us" button next to the 
"Events Calendar" button.

This will serve the purpose of raising the profile of the "LibreOffice in the 
Press" page; allow visitors to the website to better see our mention in the 
press in a more visual way; the occasions where we record LibreOffice in the 
press material will be listed in a calendar sort, allowing visitors to better 
pick reading materials closer to a release date where it really matters to them 
(we could make note on the calendar of the different release dates as reference 
dates).

The present "LibreOffice in the Press" is really not being used for any purpose 
other than the occasional dissection for marketing purposes. This will raise 
its profile on our website and create more of a "buzz" for the product. We 
could still pull data from this form of reporting for marketing purposes.

How would the press clippings would be entered would be organized the same way 
as the events calendar which is the marketing team members would take care of 
the calendar management, and, we could ask for extra help from members to admin 
the calendar (just as we did with the events calendar).

Cheers,

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

Some people think they shouldn't self-promote their articles? How weird!

--Jean

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:
> People who do get articles published have said they wouldn't want to update 
> the wiki because they felt it would be inappropriate for them to promote 
> their articles.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:
> I would like to propose this:
>
> That the "LibreOffice in the Press" entries be input into a Google Calendar
> that could be read both on the wiki as well as on the website. The location
> of the link on the website would be under the "About Us" button next to the
> "Events Calendar" button.
>
> This will serve the purpose of raising the profile of the "LibreOffice in
> the Press" page; allow visitors to the website to better see our mention in
> the press in a more visual way; the occasions where we record LibreOffice in
> the press material will be listed in a calendar sort, allowing visitors to
> better pick reading materials closer to a release date where it really
> matters to them (we could make note on the calendar of the different release
> dates as reference dates).
>
> The present "LibreOffice in the Press" is really not being used for any
> purpose other than the occasional dissection for marketing purposes. This
> will raise its profile on our website and create more of a "buzz" for the
> product. We could still pull data from this form of reporting for marketing
> purposes.
>
> How would the press clippings would be entered would be organized the same
> way as the events calendar which is the marketing team members would take
> care of the calendar management, and, we could ask for extra help from
> members to admin the calendar (just as we did with the events calendar).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc


+1
Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

2012-06-09 Thread Heinz W. Simoneit



Jean Weber schrieb, Am 09.06.2012 13:48:

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:

I would like to propose this:

That the "LibreOffice in the Press" entries be input into a Google Calendar
that could be read both on the wiki as well as on the website. The location
of the link on the website would be under the "About Us" button next to the
"Events Calendar" button.

This will serve the purpose of raising the profile of the "LibreOffice in
the Press" page; allow visitors to the website to better see our mention in
the press in a more visual way; the occasions where we record LibreOffice in
the press material will be listed in a calendar sort, allowing visitors to
better pick reading materials closer to a release date where it really
matters to them (we could make note on the calendar of the different release
dates as reference dates).

The present "LibreOffice in the Press" is really not being used for any
purpose other than the occasional dissection for marketing purposes. This
will raise its profile on our website and create more of a "buzz" for the
product. We could still pull data from this form of reporting for marketing
purposes.

How would the press clippings would be entered would be organized the same
way as the events calendar which is the marketing team members would take
care of the calendar management, and, we could ask for extra help from
members to admin the calendar (just as we did with the events calendar).

Cheers,

Marc


+1
Jean


+1
Heinz





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal



The more good press we can get into the hands of our potential business 
users, the better.


If we make it easier for them to find and read all the good press, the 
better.


I have not gone through the youtube videos, but if there are any videos 
there that are "professionally done" it might be a good idea to make a 
list of videos connected to the "About Us" page.  Potential users who 
are not into seeing these youtube type of informational videos might 
like the idea of a set of videos to click on to get info about LO and 
TDF.  These videos would not be "how to use" type, but information about 
the LO suite and why it would be a good idea to try it.


Press clippings and videos would help.


On 06/09/2012 07:48 AM, Jean Weber wrote:

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:

I would like to propose this:

That the "LibreOffice in the Press" entries be input into a Google Calendar
that could be read both on the wiki as well as on the website. The location
of the link on the website would be under the "About Us" button next to the
"Events Calendar" button.

This will serve the purpose of raising the profile of the "LibreOffice in
the Press" page; allow visitors to the website to better see our mention in
the press in a more visual way; the occasions where we record LibreOffice in
the press material will be listed in a calendar sort, allowing visitors to
better pick reading materials closer to a release date where it really
matters to them (we could make note on the calendar of the different release
dates as reference dates).

The present "LibreOffice in the Press" is really not being used for any
purpose other than the occasional dissection for marketing purposes. This
will raise its profile on our website and create more of a "buzz" for the
product. We could still pull data from this form of reporting for marketing
purposes.

How would the press clippings would be entered would be organized the same
way as the events calendar which is the marketing team members would take
care of the calendar management, and, we could ask for extra help from
members to admin the calendar (just as we did with the events calendar).

Cheers,

Marc


+1
Jean




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:13 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P
 wrote:
>
> The more good press we can get into the hands of our potential business
> users, the better.
>
> If we make it easier for them to find and read all the good press, the
> better.
>
> I have not gone through the youtube videos, but if there are any videos
> there that are "professionally done" it might be a good idea to make a list
> of videos connected to the "About Us" page.  Potential users who are not
> into seeing these youtube type of informational videos might like the idea
> of a set of videos to click on to get info about LO and TDF.  These videos
> would not be "how to use" type, but information about the LO suite and why
> it would be a good idea to try it.
>
> Press clippings and videos would help.


+1 on this too.

Yes, it's more work for people to collect (and in some cases,
evaluate) press clips and videos, but some of us spot these things in
the course of our work and report on FB, Twitter, G+ anyway, so adding
to our own TDF/LO "in the press" list isn't that much extra work.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .

/[ PS I sent the email using the wrong address. ]/

Well, I just wanted to add that when I searched for "about LibreOffice",
the first video shown was dated May 2011 and was not "professional".
Most of the rest was about a feature or how to do something.

SO, if we wanted to present a "professional" video to potential users
that tells them about LO and why they should try it, the video searching
from that LO channel page does not cut it.

On 06/09/2012 08:31 AM, Tim Lungstrom wrote:

I went to the LO YouTube page and I was not pleased how it was organized.

Below is the [long] link I got to for the LO YouTube page. I hope
this was not the "official" channel for LO. I do not know the URL if
their is a different one.

I would like to see a set of pages organized by language, AND by topic.

If the page could be organized with topics like
About LO/TDF
Why should you install it
How to install it
How to do such and such
and any other topic that could use a category listing.

I have seen some good "official pages" out there with the videos
sorted in a way that makes it easy for a person find what they want by
looking at the category and the text blurb on what the video was about.

Maybe someone could look into doing this. IT would be a major project
to do this, but it is something that would really help the marketing
AND help people easily find a "help video" within the current "1021"
videos that the page lists are in the LO channel.

http://www.youtube.com/topic/rn4STOon-mQ/?feature=results_main&ytsession=VScCeGrQEHzuJTLYqFDzxnCfOqauukPLIn-AgGEXTsJOfxWDNxBrR-zuAMnVVUwJPC1pTuAko0nYsLDeDUy_wZI_5kwD43AMNamxrXQdSc9AmTJEGHzR9kGLe3lF54JEDO2Jr1wxDb0D2_mt9-PGSjADrss84JKniEuZpVngl0hrnTkZUL6c-YHPJHgRAwTZuDV1Tj8UtaDrp8LuiUxu_IJQfn60S-Ok211Dh6AjGla45IolQOAwAg27Rz00kjdLk8sh85SLfKosIZUIVyIn-czmkta1qkdy7-G68IIhqtg#popular

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .

I agree this is something very much worth doing. I've not been much
into YouTube until very recently, so I didn't even know there was a
way to have an official page with videos organised into topics. I'm
not volunteering to work on one for TDF/LO, being overextended
already, but it would certainly be great if someone (or a group) would
do so.

Several people have expressed interest through the Docs list about
creating how-to videos, and we definitely need them, but I agree we
also need some "professional" introductory videos. Drew Jensen has
done some good stuff; I'm not sure it's what you have in mind, but
it's well done.

--Jean


On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:40 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P
 wrote:
>
> /[  PS   I sent the email using the wrong address.   ]/
>
> Well, I just wanted to add that when I searched for "about LibreOffice", the
> first video shown was dated May 2011 and was not "professional".  Most of
> the rest was about a feature or how to do something.
>
> SO, if we wanted to present a "professional" video to potential users that
> tells them about LO and why they should try it, the video searching from
> that LO channel page does not cut it.
>
> On 06/09/2012 08:31 AM, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
>>
>>
>> I went to the LO YouTube page and I was not pleased how it was organized.
>>
>> Below is the [long] link I got to for the LO YouTube page.  I hope this
>> was not the "official" channel for LO.  I do not know the URL if their is a
>> different one.
>>
>> I would like to see a set of pages organized by language, AND by topic.
>>
>> If the page could be organized with topics like
>> About LO/TDF
>> Why should you install it
>> How to install it
>> How to do such and such
>> and any other topic that could use a category listing.
>>
>> I have seen some good "official pages" out there with the videos sorted in
>> a way that makes it easy for a person find what they want by looking at the
>> category and the text blurb on what the video was about.
>>
>> Maybe someone could look into doing this.  IT would be a major project to
>> do this, but it is something that would really help the marketing AND help
>> people easily find a "help video" within the current "1021" videos that the
>> page lists are in the LO channel.
>>

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[libreoffice-marketing] Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .

2012-06-09 Thread Tim Lungstrom

I went to the LO YouTube page and I was not pleased how it was organized.

Below is the [long] link I got to for the LO YouTube page. I hope this
was not the "official" channel for LO. I do not know the URL if their
is a different one.

I would like to see a set of pages organized by language, AND by topic.

If the page could be organized with topics like
About LO/TDF
Why should you install it
How to install it
How to do such and such
and any other topic that could use a category listing.

I have seen some good "official pages" out there with the videos sorted
in a way that makes it easy for a person find what they want by looking
at the category and the text blurb on what the video was about.

Maybe someone could look into doing this. IT would be a major project
to do this, but it is something that would really help the marketing AND
help people easily find a "help video" within the current "1021" videos
that the page lists are in the LO channel.

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .



I do not deal much with YouTube or any of the "social networks" like 
Facebook and Twitter, but many do.


I do go to this YouTube page
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePianoGuys
and it is much better than LO's page.

It is well organized for their type of videos so it can be done.

If someone would take the time and organized LO's videos enough to be 
placed on a well made "official channel", then it would go a long way 
towards giving LO users and potential users a good place to find the 
videos they need.



On 06/09/2012 08:52 AM, Jean Weber wrote:

I agree this is something very much worth doing. I've not been much
into YouTube until very recently, so I didn't even know there was a
way to have an official page with videos organised into topics. I'm
not volunteering to work on one for TDF/LO, being overextended
already, but it would certainly be great if someone (or a group) would
do so.

Several people have expressed interest through the Docs list about
creating how-to videos, and we definitely need them, but I agree we
also need some "professional" introductory videos. Drew Jensen has
done some good stuff; I'm not sure it's what you have in mind, but
it's well done.

--Jean


On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:40 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P
  wrote:

/[  PS   I sent the email using the wrong address.   ]/

Well, I just wanted to add that when I searched for "about LibreOffice", the
first video shown was dated May 2011 and was not "professional".  Most of
the rest was about a feature or how to do something.

SO, if we wanted to present a "professional" video to potential users that
tells them about LO and why they should try it, the video searching from
that LO channel page does not cut it.

On 06/09/2012 08:31 AM, Tim Lungstrom wrote:


I went to the LO YouTube page and I was not pleased how it was organized.

Below is the [long] link I got to for the LO YouTube page.  I hope this
was not the "official" channel for LO.  I do not know the URL if their is a
different one.

I would like to see a set of pages organized by language, AND by topic.

If the page could be organized with topics like
About LO/TDF
Why should you install it
How to install it
How to do such and such
and any other topic that could use a category listing.

I have seen some good "official pages" out there with the videos sorted in
a way that makes it easy for a person find what they want by looking at the
category and the text blurb on what the video was about.

Maybe someone could look into doing this.  IT would be a major project to
do this, but it is something that would really help the marketing AND help
people easily find a "help video" within the current "1021" videos that the
page lists are in the LO channel.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

Hi :)
I know!  before getting involved i thought the idea of writing articles was to 
get information, ideas and/or opinions and thoughts "out there" as far and wide 
as possible.  

Now i seem to find that people publish articles in the press in order to try to 
keep them as secret and "unheard of" as possible.  

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me so i'm obviously missing some crucial piece 
of information.  Maybe the best way of getting people to erad something is to 
keep it secret and exclusive?  I dunno.  Still doesn't make any sense to me.  
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Sat, 9/6/12, Jean Weber  wrote:

From: Jean Weber 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 9 June, 2012, 12:47

Some people think they shouldn't self-promote their articles? How weird!

--Jean

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:
> People who do get articles published have said they wouldn't want to update 
> the wiki because they felt it would be inappropriate for them to promote 
> their articles.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .

Hi :)
This does make sense!  I think any work on this would be rewarding and well 
used.  Go for it! :)
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sat, 9/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P  wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video 
collection setup . . .
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 9 June, 2012, 14:04


I do not deal much with YouTube or any of the "social networks" like 
Facebook and Twitter, but many do.

I do go to this YouTube page
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePianoGuys
and it is much better than LO's page.

It is well organized for their type of videos so it can be done.

If someone would take the time and organized LO's videos enough to be 
placed on a well made "official channel", then it would go a long way 
towards giving LO users and potential users a good place to find the 
videos they need.


On 06/09/2012 08:52 AM, Jean Weber wrote:
> I agree this is something very much worth doing. I've not been much
> into YouTube until very recently, so I didn't even know there was a
> way to have an official page with videos organised into topics. I'm
> not volunteering to work on one for TDF/LO, being overextended
> already, but it would certainly be great if someone (or a group) would
> do so.
>
> Several people have expressed interest through the Docs list about
> creating how-to videos, and we definitely need them, but I agree we
> also need some "professional" introductory videos. Drew Jensen has
> done some good stuff; I'm not sure it's what you have in mind, but
> it's well done.
>
> --Jean
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:40 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P
>   wrote:
>> /[  PS   I sent the email using the wrong address.   ]/
>>
>> Well, I just wanted to add that when I searched for "about LibreOffice", the
>> first video shown was dated May 2011 and was not "professional".  Most of
>> the rest was about a feature or how to do something.
>>
>> SO, if we wanted to present a "professional" video to potential users that
>> tells them about LO and why they should try it, the video searching from
>> that LO channel page does not cut it.
>>
>> On 06/09/2012 08:31 AM, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> I went to the LO YouTube page and I was not pleased how it was organized.
>>>
>>> Below is the [long] link I got to for the LO YouTube page.  I hope this
>>> was not the "official" channel for LO.  I do not know the URL if their is a
>>> different one.
>>>
>>> I would like to see a set of pages organized by language, AND by topic.
>>>
>>> If the page could be organized with topics like
>>> About LO/TDF
>>> Why should you install it
>>> How to install it
>>> How to do such and such
>>> and any other topic that could use a category listing.
>>>
>>> I have seen some good "official pages" out there with the videos sorted in
>>> a way that makes it easy for a person find what they want by looking at the
>>> category and the text blurb on what the video was about.
>>>
>>> Maybe someone could look into doing this.  IT would be a major project to
>>> do this, but it is something that would really help the marketing AND help
>>> people easily find a "help video" within the current "1021" videos that the
>>> page lists are in the LO channel.
>>>


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

2012-06-09 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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On 06/09/2012 04:10 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> I would like to propose this:
>
> That the "LibreOffice in the Press" entries be input into a Google
Calendar that could be read both on the wiki as well as on the website.
The location of the link on the website would be under the "About Us"
button next to the "Events Calendar" button.
> [...]
> The present "LibreOffice in the Press" is really not being used for any
purpose other than the occasional dissection for marketing purposes.
This will raise its profile on our website and create more of a "buzz"
for the product. We could still pull data from this form of reporting
for marketing purposes.
[...]

+1, although with a nuance concerning using Google tools. The tasks at
hand and the tools required should be two different decisions here.

I agree we need a better way to share such resources but most
importantly, to welcome and encourage people to keep an eye on such
references and gather+curate them. Using a tool like Zotero -
http://www.zotero.org - we could help preserve and curate such content
while making it available to press & scholars (and the general public
too), and inviting them to contribute without requiring a Google
account. This would be specially useful to people preparing proposals,
studies and research for LibreOffice.. while using LibreOffice + Zotero
:D I am no expert with Zotero, but I know a few. I personally favored
using bookmarking tools (ala Delicious) like Semantic Scuttle because
that's what I knew best, but I am learning about Zotero to use it as I
see more potential there.

Zotero "is free, open source reference management software to manage
bibliographic data and related research materials (such as PDFs).
Notable features include web browser integration, online syncing,
generation of in-text citations, footnotes and bibliographies, as well
as integration with the word processors Microsoft Word, LibreOffice,
OpenOffice.org Writer and NeoOffice. It is produced by the Center for
History and New Media of George Mason University (GMU)." (from
Wikipedia). It's also another way students / researchers in academia are
discovering / using LibreOffice, increasingly.

Regarding Semantic Scuttle, see
http://l1bre.ca/l/bookmarks.php/magicfab/libreoffice+press for an
example - add "+en" to the query for English bookmarks only. Both Zotero
and Semantic Scuttle - http://semanticscuttle.sourceforge.net/ - are
similar in the service they'd provide to what Italo Vignoli did at some
point with Evernote: http://www.evernote.com/pub/italovignoli/lofrench -
which requires an account there, I believe :( Zotero and Semantic
Scuttle are also free, open source software which can be implemented on
TDF's own servers for mutual benefits.

When you think about this kind of approach it is very consistent with
the TDF mission and goals. Yes, it requires more effort & time but we
need to aim for this in addition to the easy / quick solutions first. In
fact Semantic Scuttle/Zotero can be used to feed other information sources.

I recently was hospitalized after a surgery that had some complications
so my time is limited for this during the next 4-8 weeks, but I am
gradually coming back to online  / FLOSS consulting activities. This
reminds me to focus a bit more on gathering such resources (press) in
either/both my Zotero/Semantic Scuttle accounts, so in a few more days I
may be able to better make my point and help more with this. If others
feel this makes sense we can work together, otherwise I am happy to
share my resources and compare results later on so the best decision can
take this forward.

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

Hi :)
This is the approach that does work.  People seem to respond to this approach 
and take more interest.  

1.  An updated listing of articles would require that people update the central 
instead of, or at the same time as tweeting it (or whatever).  This will not 
happen.  People are happy to tweet (or whateve) but not to update a wiki.  
WIki's are too static and just not exciting enough for this sort of thing.  

2.  A listing would have to be promoted and given to people to view.  
a)  No-one would promote a static page like that.  It looks boring and dull 
when the reason for promoting it is to create energy
b)  People receiving a link like that would probably ignore it and do their own 
search on Bing because a a "testimoials" page from a company is bound to only 
express their company in a good-light so why bother even looking at it except 
just to laugh at obvious fanboy-isms?

Btw has anyone done a Bing search for LibreOffice?  Guess what is top of the 
list?  Compare to a google search.  

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sat, 9/6/12, Jean Weber  wrote:


 some of us spot these things in
the course of our work and report on FB, Twitter, G+ anyway, so adding
to our own TDF/LO "in the press" list isn't that much extra work.

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

Hi :)
This would be brilliant for organising YouTube videos, HowTos, conference 
videos, all that sort of thing.  Putting this level of work into that would be 
a real challenge and would result in something that all users would appreciate  
AND would be a good thing to show-off in marketing.  
Regards from
Tom :)  

--- On Sat, 9/6/12, Fabian Rodriguez  wrote:

From: Fabian Rodriguez 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 9 June, 2012, 14:31

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On 06/09/2012 04:10 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> I would like to propose this:
>
> That the "LibreOffice in the Press" entries be input into a Google
Calendar that could be read both on the wiki as well as on the website.
The location of the link on the website would be under the "About Us"
button next to the "Events Calendar" button.
> [...]
> The present "LibreOffice in the Press" is really not being used for any
purpose other than the occasional dissection for marketing purposes.
This will raise its profile on our website and create more of a "buzz"
for the product. We could still pull data from this form of reporting
for marketing purposes.
[...]

+1, although with a nuance concerning using Google tools. The tasks at
hand and the tools required should be two different decisions here.

I agree we need a better way to share such resources but most
importantly, to welcome and encourage people to keep an eye on such
references and gather+curate them. Using a tool like Zotero -
http://www.zotero.org - we could help preserve and curate such content
while making it available to press & scholars (and the general public
too), and inviting them to contribute without requiring a Google
account. This would be specially useful to people preparing proposals,
studies and research for LibreOffice.. while using LibreOffice + Zotero
:D I am no expert with Zotero, but I know a few. I personally favored
using bookmarking tools (ala Delicious) like Semantic Scuttle because
that's what I knew best, but I am learning about Zotero to use it as I
see more potential there.

Zotero "is free, open source reference management software to manage
bibliographic data and related research materials (such as PDFs).
Notable features include web browser integration, online syncing,
generation of in-text citations, footnotes and bibliographies, as well
as integration with the word processors Microsoft Word, LibreOffice,
OpenOffice.org Writer and NeoOffice. It is produced by the Center for
History and New Media of George Mason University (GMU)." (from
Wikipedia). It's also another way students / researchers in academia are
discovering / using LibreOffice, increasingly.

Regarding Semantic Scuttle, see
http://l1bre.ca/l/bookmarks.php/magicfab/libreoffice+press for an
example - add "+en" to the query for English bookmarks only. Both Zotero
and Semantic Scuttle - http://semanticscuttle.sourceforge.net/ - are
similar in the service they'd provide to what Italo Vignoli did at some
point with Evernote: http://www.evernote.com/pub/italovignoli/lofrench -
which requires an account there, I believe :( Zotero and Semantic
Scuttle are also free, open source software which can be implemented on
TDF's own servers for mutual benefits.

When you think about this kind of approach it is very consistent with
the TDF mission and goals. Yes, it requires more effort & time but we
need to aim for this in addition to the easy / quick solutions first. In
fact Semantic Scuttle/Zotero can be used to feed other information sources.

I recently was hospitalized after a surgery that had some complications
so my time is limited for this during the next 4-8 weeks, but I am
gradually coming back to online  / FLOSS consulting activities. This
reminds me to focus a bit more on gathering such resources (press) in
either/both my Zotero/Semantic Scuttle accounts, so in a few more days I
may be able to better make my point and help more with this. If others
feel this makes sense we can work together, otherwise I am happy to
share my resources and compare results later on so the best decision can
take this forward.

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .

2012-06-09 Thread Florian Reisinger

Am 09.06.2012 14:31, schrieb Tim Lungstrom:

I went to the LO YouTube page and I was not pleased how it was organized.

Below is the [long] link I got to for the LO YouTube page. I hope
this was not the "official" channel for LO. I do not know the URL if
their is a different one.

No, this channal is made by youtuve automatically...
No official one yet

I would like to see a set of pages organized by language, AND by topic.

If the page could be organized with topics like
About LO/TDF
Why should you install it
How to install it
How to do such and such
and any other topic that could use a category listing.

+1
(What about a better search term IMHO??)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .

2012-06-09 Thread Florian Reisinger


Hi!

Skipping everything to only say the most important: If I am not alone, I 
would try to do this, although I am not used to YouTube...


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .


On 06/09/2012 12:57 PM, Florian Reisinger wrote:

Hi!

Skipping everything to only say the most important: If I am not alone, 
I would try to do this, although I am not used to YouTube...


I have tried several search phrases to get only "what is LibreOffice", 
"about LibreOffice", etc., and keep getting info about how to do 
something or some "non professional" out-of-date video talking about 
LibreOffice.


Is there a link out there of an English language video for "introducing 
LO" to the general public and letting people know why it would be a good 
alternative to MSO?


There is one from "nixiedoeslinux" that states MSO is 2 years old and 
there is LO to use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sloEMUt7n5Q

There is a user called "LibreOffice" but that set of videos seems to 
show "personal views" by a single person, not from TDF/LO.


If the LibreOffice user is not associated with TDF, there might be some 
problems with getting an "official LibreOffice" channel, since there 
already is a Libreoffice "user".


Still, I would like to find a good more-professional video that is from 
TDF/LO people telling potential users why LO is a good options for them, 
instead of buying MSO.  It would be nice to have it and link to it from 
the different TDF/LO pages that are geared to provide the initial 
information about LO to the potential users.


The video does not have to be a high-end type of production, but some 
good audio and video of a computer display showing LO in use and maybe 
some "presentation" style of information about the advantages of LO as a 
users default office suite.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .

Hi :)
At a quick guess the person using the "Libreoffice" name on YouTube might be 
thrilled to elt TDF take over the name.  They probably set it up to give to TDF 
originally and then found a lack of interest at the time.  
Regards from
Tom :)  

--- On Sat, 9/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P  wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video 
collection setup . . .
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 9 June, 2012, 19:47

On 06/09/2012 12:57 PM, Florian Reisinger wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Skipping everything to only say the most important: If I am not alone, I 
> would try to do this, although I am not used to YouTube...
> 
I have tried several search phrases to get only "what is LibreOffice", "about 
LibreOffice", etc., and keep getting info about how to do something or some 
"non professional" out-of-date video talking about LibreOffice.

Is there a link out there of an English language video for "introducing LO" to 
the general public and letting people know why it would be a good alternative 
to MSO?

There is one from "nixiedoeslinux" that states MSO is 2 years old and there is 
LO to use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sloEMUt7n5Q

There is a user called "LibreOffice" but that set of videos seems to show 
"personal views" by a single person, not from TDF/LO.

If the LibreOffice user is not associated with TDF, there might be some 
problems with getting an "official LibreOffice" channel, since there already is 
a Libreoffice "user".

Still, I would like to find a good more-professional video that is from TDF/LO 
people telling potential users why LO is a good options for them, instead of 
buying MSO.  It would be nice to have it and link to it from the different 
TDF/LO pages that are geared to provide the initial information about LO to the 
potential users.

The video does not have to be a high-end type of production, but some good 
audio and video of a computer display showing LO in use and maybe some 
"presentation" style of information about the advantages of LO as a users 
default office suite.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .

2012-06-09 Thread drew jensen

On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 23:02 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> At a quick guess the person using the "Libreoffice" name on YouTube might be 
> thrilled to elt TDF take over the name.  They probably set it up to give to 
> TDF originally and then found a lack of interest at the time.  
> Regards from
> Tom :)  

Howdy Tom,

Absolutely, if you want to start using it today that can happen.

I saw the conversation start and have been late getting into it.

Seriously, the account is ready for anyone that wants to work it - even
if you just have ideas of 'exactly' what you want to see there.

One item that I mentioned before, that is worth a follow up mention.
YouTube supports a non-profit page status, which would make it much
better for the foundations use, the web page discussing states that if
you have a US Tax exempt number sign up is via a web form. I think it's
worth someone, particularly someone who can knows someone in Google
directly, addressing the question of a special exemption of the US
requirement for TDF. Given the legal status in Germany it seems at least
worth an email.

Anyway, again if you want to do something specific with site, or anyone,
just let me know - right now that requires shared account credentials,
for a shared admin, which is acceptable for 2 or 3 people I think. The
non-profit status would be the way to go however..

//drew

> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 9/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P  wrote:
> 
> From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video 
> collection setup . . .
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Saturday, 9 June, 2012, 19:47
> 
> On 06/09/2012 12:57 PM, Florian Reisinger wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Skipping everything to only say the most important: If I am not alone, I 
> > would try to do this, although I am not used to YouTube...
> > 
> I have tried several search phrases to get only "what is LibreOffice", "about 
> LibreOffice", etc., and keep getting info about how to do something or some 
> "non professional" out-of-date video talking about LibreOffice.
> 
> Is there a link out there of an English language video for "introducing LO" 
> to the general public and letting people know why it would be a good 
> alternative to MSO?
> 
> There is one from "nixiedoeslinux" that states MSO is 2 years old and there 
> is LO to use.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sloEMUt7n5Q
> 
> There is a user called "LibreOffice" but that set of videos seems to show 
> "personal views" by a single person, not from TDF/LO.
> 
> If the LibreOffice user is not associated with TDF, there might be some 
> problems with getting an "official LibreOffice" channel, since there already 
> is a Libreoffice "user".
> 
> Still, I would like to find a good more-professional video that is from 
> TDF/LO people telling potential users why LO is a good options for them, 
> instead of buying MSO.  It would be nice to have it and link to it from the 
> different TDF/LO pages that are geared to provide the initial information 
> about LO to the potential users.
> 
> The video does not have to be a high-end type of production, but some good 
> audio and video of a computer display showing LO in use and maybe some 
> "presentation" style of information about the advantages of LO as a users 
> default office suite.
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 8:18 AM, drew jensen  wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 23:02 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> At a quick guess the person using the "Libreoffice" name on YouTube might be 
>> thrilled to elt TDF take over the name.  They probably set it up to give to 
>> TDF originally and then found a lack of interest at the time.
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>
> Howdy Tom,
>
> Absolutely, if you want to start using it today that can happen.
>
> I saw the conversation start and have been late getting into it.
>
> Seriously, the account is ready for anyone that wants to work it - even
> if you just have ideas of 'exactly' what you want to see there.
>
> One item that I mentioned before, that is worth a follow up mention.
> YouTube supports a non-profit page status, which would make it much
> better for the foundations use, the web page discussing states that if
> you have a US Tax exempt number sign up is via a web form. I think it's
> worth someone, particularly someone who can knows someone in Google
> directly, addressing the question of a special exemption of the US
> requirement for TDF. Given the legal status in Germany it seems at least
> worth an email.
>
> Anyway, again if you want to do something specific with site, or anyone,
> just let me know - right now that requires shared account credentials,
> for a shared admin, which is acceptable for 2 or 3 people I think. The
> non-profit status would be the way to go however..
>
> //drew


I thought that might be you, Drew!

I agree, if someone can follow up on getting a non-profit page for LO
on YouTube, that would be best.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal


Hi Fabian

Le 2012-06-09 09:31, Fabian Rodriguez a écrit :


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On 06/09/2012 04:10 AM, Marc Paré wrote:

I would like to propose this:

That the "LibreOffice in the Press" entries be input into a Google

Calendar that could be read both on the wiki as well as on the website.
The location of the link on the website would be under the "About Us"
button next to the "Events Calendar" button.

[...]
The present "LibreOffice in the Press" is really not being used for any

purpose other than the occasional dissection for marketing purposes.
This will raise its profile on our website and create more of a "buzz"
for the product. We could still pull data from this form of reporting
for marketing purposes.
[...]

+1, although with a nuance concerning using Google tools. The tasks at
hand and the tools required should be two different decisions here.

I agree we need a better way to share such resources but most
importantly, to welcome and encourage people to keep an eye on such
references and gather+curate them. Using a tool like Zotero -
http://www.zotero.org - we could help preserve and curate such content
while making it available to press&  scholars (and the general public
too), and inviting them to contribute without requiring a Google
account. This would be specially useful to people preparing proposals,
studies and research for LibreOffice.. while using LibreOffice + Zotero
:D I am no expert with Zotero, but I know a few. I personally favored
using bookmarking tools (ala Delicious) like Semantic Scuttle because
that's what I knew best, but I am learning about Zotero to use it as I
see more potential there.

Zotero "is free, open source reference management software to manage
bibliographic data and related research materials (such as PDFs).
Notable features include web browser integration, online syncing,
generation of in-text citations, footnotes and bibliographies, as well
as integration with the word processors Microsoft Word, LibreOffice,
OpenOffice.org Writer and NeoOffice. It is produced by the Center for
History and New Media of George Mason University (GMU)." (from
Wikipedia). It's also another way students / researchers in academia are
discovering / using LibreOffice, increasingly.

Regarding Semantic Scuttle, see
http://l1bre.ca/l/bookmarks.php/magicfab/libreoffice+press for an
example - add "+en" to the query for English bookmarks only. Both Zotero
and Semantic Scuttle - http://semanticscuttle.sourceforge.net/ - are
similar in the service they'd provide to what Italo Vignoli did at some
point with Evernote: http://www.evernote.com/pub/italovignoli/lofrench -
which requires an account there, I believe :( Zotero and Semantic
Scuttle are also free, open source software which can be implemented on
TDF's own servers for mutual benefits.

When you think about this kind of approach it is very consistent with
the TDF mission and goals. Yes, it requires more effort&  time but we
need to aim for this in addition to the easy / quick solutions first. In
fact Semantic Scuttle/Zotero can be used to feed other information sources.

I recently was hospitalized after a surgery that had some complications
so my time is limited for this during the next 4-8 weeks, but I am
gradually coming back to online  / FLOSS consulting activities. This
reminds me to focus a bit more on gathering such resources (press) in
either/both my Zotero/Semantic Scuttle accounts, so in a few more days I
may be able to better make my point and help more with this. If others
feel this makes sense we can work together, otherwise I am happy to
share my resources and compare results later on so the best decision can
take this forward.

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca



Sound good. I am all for seeing LibreOffice tools being used for any 
work. It would be nice to see an example of this at work, just to see 
how much of a learning curve our members would need to use such a system.


Maybe, in the meantime, we could set up a Google Calendar and if Zotero 
(this seems to be the one that most academics are using with LibreOffice 
-- just by the feedback I have read on many LibreOffice lists) could 
take care of managing such a list as well as preserve/curate the list 
works out, we could transition to it.


This would also go a great way to show the ability of the 
LibreOffice+Zotero combo of doing more that just academic value usage.


If you have time later on, feel free to mount a "proof of concept" page 
on the wiki so that we could see it at work.


Take time to heal! I am also on the mend from some life-changing 
surgeries. Life is full of surprises.


Cheers,

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Is there a better YouTube video collection setup . . .

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Jean Weber  wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 8:18 AM, drew jensen  
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 23:02 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
>>> Hi :)
>>> At a quick guess the person using the "Libreoffice" name on YouTube might 
>>> be thrilled to elt TDF take over the name.  They probably set it up to give 
>>> to TDF originally and then found a lack of interest at the time.
>>> Regards from
>>> Tom :)
>>
>> Howdy Tom,
>>
>> Absolutely, if you want to start using it today that can happen.
>>
>> I saw the conversation start and have been late getting into it.
>>
>> Seriously, the account is ready for anyone that wants to work it - even
>> if you just have ideas of 'exactly' what you want to see there.
>>
>> One item that I mentioned before, that is worth a follow up mention.
>> YouTube supports a non-profit page status, which would make it much
>> better for the foundations use, the web page discussing states that if
>> you have a US Tax exempt number sign up is via a web form. I think it's
>> worth someone, particularly someone who can knows someone in Google
>> directly, addressing the question of a special exemption of the US
>> requirement for TDF. Given the legal status in Germany it seems at least
>> worth an email.
>>
>> Anyway, again if you want to do something specific with site, or anyone,
>> just let me know - right now that requires shared account credentials,
>> for a shared admin, which is acceptable for 2 or 3 people I think. The
>> non-profit status would be the way to go however..
>>
>> //drew
>
>
> I thought that might be you, Drew!
>
> I agree, if someone can follow up on getting a non-profit page for LO
> on YouTube, that would be best.
>
> --Jean

I'll add that if I thought I had a chance of finding time to do
something about it myself, I would offer to do so. I don't like saying
"someone should do it" instead of "I volunteer," but I also don't like
to volunteer unless I think I have a good chance of following through
in a timely manner.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal


Hi everyone,

I'm taking the easy way out and responding to everyone on the list this way.

So, it sounds like there are no real disagreements on the concept other 
than the time it would take for people to maintain such a calendar.


Here are my thoughts after reading all of the responses:

NOTE: I maintain the "Events Calendar" (found in the "About Us" section 
of our website) and I really only spend, at the most, maybe 15 minutes a 
week or two updating the calendar. I also cruise ALL of the EN lists; 
the FR, ES users/discuss lists; DE discuss list -- for any mention of 
any events that I may have missed. The BR-PT is very vocal about any 
events happening in Brazil and the community participate very well on 
our Marketing pages -- so there is no real need to monitor their list 
(besides, my PT is awful).


So the time spent at keeping the "Events Calendar" is quite small. The 
only worry I have is that Florian is the other admin (he is quite busy 
with important TDF/LibreOffice work) and we should really have one more 
member offer to help out -- one extra person would guarantee the 
continuation of the Events calendar page should one of us drop out of 
the admin role. Lift your hand up if you are interested! [*smile*]


* We should try to keep the admin of the "LibreOffice in the Press" 
calendar down to the most basic common denominator for potential admins. 
A great many users will have a G-Account and will have already seen/used 
a G-Calendar. The learning curve is quite short and we really only need 
about a total of 3-4 people to maintain the calendar; if it got busier, 
then we could ask for more help. I also think that the marketing team 
should take care of the admin/update of these calendar/pages, just as we 
have undertaken with the "Events" calendar pages. I would, of course, 
offer my help as an admin on the "LibreOffice in the Press" calendar page.


* The "LibreOffice in the Press" would be a calendar where our website 
visitors click on a date->copy-paste a link to the original article 
website (live links are not yet possible, but I believe Google is 
working on making the links live in a later version).


Let's just say that, that particular area would be our "magazine rack" 
of TDF/LibreOffice and not every single mention of TDF/LibreOffice would 
be mentioned, but, some of the more important ones. If people think that 
our choices are too one-sided on this calendar, then, they will 
certainly let us know of it -- critics are always vocal.


* we should keep the admin as simple as possible to maximize the number 
of potential helpers


Re: Fabian's proposal of a LibreOffice+Zotero combo to do the heavy 
lifting: this does sound like quite a great suggestion. We should try to 
set it up to see how much work this would involve as well as the 
learning curve for admins. I personally would like to see a demo of it, 
and maybe decide to use this method to upkeep the calendar page.


But ... in the meantime, we could just go ahead and set up the Google 
Calendar for both wiki/Website. We can still keep the wiki "LibreOffice 
in the Press" page[1] for others to update, and, the calendar version 
admins could keep an eye on the page and update the calendar as changes 
are made to the wiki page.


How does that sound?

Cheers,

Marc

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_In_The_Press


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal

Hi :)

Maybe change the name to 

"LibreOffice Press Articles"



I still think that this sort of activity is a waste of time that would
be best spent on other things.  A couple of years ago it made sense. 
All of the people saying it's a good idea have made NO effort to update
or modify the existing page.  Whenever the marketing team has been
asked to contribute to the existing page it has resulted in NO effort
from anyone.  



Lots of people in the docs team about a year ago were keen for the docs
team to have a blog and many promised they would update it often.  



People like the sound of these sorts of things but never even bother to promote 
it or use it let alone contribute.  

Regards from

Tom :)  

--- On Sun, 10/6/12, Marc Paré  wrote:

From: Marc Paré 
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice in the Press -- Proposal
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 10 June, 2012, 1:04

Hi everyone,

I'm taking the easy way out and responding to everyone on the list this way.

So, it sounds like there are no real disagreements on the concept other than 
the time it would take for people to maintain such a calendar.

Here are my thoughts after reading all of the responses:

NOTE: I maintain the "Events Calendar" (found in the "About Us" section of our 
website) and I really only spend, at the most, maybe 15 minutes a week or two 
updating the calendar. I also cruise ALL of the EN lists; the FR, ES 
users/discuss lists; DE discuss list -- for any mention of any events that I 
may have missed. The BR-PT is very vocal about any events happening in Brazil 
and the community participate very well on our Marketing pages -- so there is 
no real need to monitor their list (besides, my PT is awful).

So the time spent at keeping the "Events Calendar" is quite small. The only 
worry I have is that Florian is the other admin (he is quite busy with 
important TDF/LibreOffice work) and we should really have one more member offer 
to help out -- one extra person would guarantee the continuation of the Events 
calendar page should one of us drop out of the admin role. Lift your hand up if 
you are interested! [*smile*]

* We should try to keep the admin of the "LibreOffice in the Press" calendar 
down to the most basic common denominator for potential admins. A great many 
users will have a G-Account and will have already seen/used a G-Calendar. The 
learning curve is quite short and we really only need about a total of 3-4 
people to maintain the calendar; if it got busier, then we could ask for more 
help. I also think that the marketing team should take care of the admin/update 
of these calendar/pages, just as we have undertaken with the "Events" calendar 
pages. I would, of course, offer my help as an admin on the "LibreOffice in the 
Press" calendar page.

* The "LibreOffice in the Press" would be a calendar where our website visitors 
click on a date->copy-paste a link to the original article website (live links 
are not yet possible, but I believe Google is working on making the links live 
in a later version).

Let's just say that, that particular area would be our "magazine rack" of 
TDF/LibreOffice and not every single mention of TDF/LibreOffice would be 
mentioned, but, some of the more important ones. If people think that our 
choices are too one-sided on this calendar, then, they will certainly let us 
know of it -- critics are always vocal.

* we should keep the admin as simple as possible to maximize the number of 
potential helpers

Re: Fabian's proposal of a LibreOffice+Zotero combo to do the heavy lifting: 
this does sound like quite a great suggestion. We should try to set it up to 
see how much work this would involve as well as the learning curve for admins. 
I personally would like to see a demo of it, and maybe decide to use this 
method to upkeep the calendar page.

But ... in the meantime, we could just go ahead and set up the Google Calendar 
for both wiki/Website. We can still keep the wiki "LibreOffice in the Press" 
page[1] for others to update, and, the calendar version admins could keep an 
eye on the page and update the calendar as changes are made to the wiki page.

How does that sound?

Cheers,

Marc

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_In_The_Press


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[libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Team blog added to the "Websites and Web Services used by The Document Foundation" wiki page


FYI,

I have added the "Marketing Team blog" to the "Websites and Web Services 
used by The Document Foundation" wiki page[1]. I have added my name as 
the site maintainer.


Cheers,

Marc

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Web_Sites_services


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