[libreoffice-marketing] more currencies for donations

2012-09-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

I've just checked with our card provider, and we can now accept more 
currencies for donations. I've checked what PayPal and our provider 
support as common denominator, and have added that list to the dropdown 
of http://donate.libreoffice.org


Florian

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[libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct

2012-09-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of 
Ubuntu's?

http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct



While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with
LO is just like us that means very different things for different
combinations of us.  The marketing list and documentation lists are very 
polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but 
the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome 
or even intimidated.  Can we legislate against rudeness?  Can we even define 
it?  Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is 
acceptable behaviour.  

Regards from
Tom :)  


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct

2012-09-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Tom,

I don't know why you posted this on the marketing list, perhaps we
should continue this discussion on discuss@... anyway. 

Maybe such a code of conduct is needed, I don't dwell too much on the
users list to be frank. However, what's really important is to have this
code enforced, and that means to have community members who are able to
moderate and help the mailing list in question to remain polite and
helpful. In this sense, I would trust a few people more than I would
trust a code of conduct. As you do spend much more time  on the Users
mailing list than me, do you think you need such a code, or do you need
more people to help out users (in a polite tone, of course)?

Best,
Charles. 

Le mardi 25 septembre 2012 à 11:04 +0200, Florian Monfort a écrit :
 Hi Tom,
 
 Sure sounds like a great idea :)
 
 +1
 
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 On Sep 25, 2012 11:02 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
  Hi :)
 
  I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of
  Ubuntu's?
 
  http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct
 
 
 
  While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with
  LO is just like us that means very different things for different
  combinations of us.  The marketing list and documentation lists are very
  polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions
  but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very
  unwelcome or even intimidated.  Can we legislate against rudeness?  Can we
  even define it?  Different people obviously have very different ideas about
  what is acceptable behaviour.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct

2012-09-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I'm not on the discuss list but i think you are right.  It would be better 
there.  


The problem is enforcement.  However, i tend to find that  if a policy is 
reasonable enough then people self-moderate.  The lack of a policy means people 
don't think about what might not be ok.  There is a problem with having a small 
elite group of people acting as moderators as it makes the organisation seem 
quite hierarchical and patronising.  Then various people dispute the rights of 
the moderators or feel they can legitimately mistreat the moderators and so on 
and on.  If you create a police ofrce then you are more likely to need them.  
If you don't have one people tend to behave better.  Just my experience of 
vaious co-operative group's meetings and demonstrations and stuff.  Best to 
avoid moderators if possible.  Ubuntu's Launchpad works really well without 
them.  


Anyway, best for the discuss group

Regards from
Tom :)







 From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 10:18
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
 
Hello Tom,

I don't know why you posted this on the marketing list, perhaps we
should continue this discussion on discuss@... anyway. 

Maybe such a code of conduct is needed, I don't dwell too much on the
users list to be frank. However, what's really important is to have this
code enforced, and that means to have community members who are able to
moderate and help the mailing list in question to remain polite and
helpful. In this sense, I would trust a few people more than I would
trust a code of conduct. As you do spend much more time  on the Users
mailing list than me, do you think you need such a code, or do you need
more people to help out users (in a polite tone, of course)?

Best,
Charles. 

Le mardi 25 septembre 2012 à 11:04 +0200, Florian Monfort a écrit :
 Hi Tom,
 
 Sure sounds like a great idea :)
 
 +1
 
 --
 Florian Monfort
 Marketing Apprentice at Red Hat
 Marketing Team at The Document Foundation
 Student at France Business School
 +33 6 58 97 15 61
 florian.monf...@gmail.com
 On Sep 25, 2012 11:02 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
  Hi :)
 
  I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of
  Ubuntu's?
 
  http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct
 
 
 
  While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with
  LO is just like us that means very different things for different
  combinations of us.  The marketing list and documentation lists are very
  polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions
  but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very
  unwelcome or even intimidated.  Can we legislate against rudeness?  Can we
  even define it?  Different people obviously have very different ideas about
  what is acceptable behaviour.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct

2012-09-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The main problem as i see it is that a lot of the people that give the best 
answers and really fix most of the trickiest and seemingly intractable problems 
are the people with the bad attitude towards most of the people asking 
questions.  We need them.  There are a few people that are also pretty 
fantastic and still manage to treat people with respect and even in a friendly 
positive manner.  Such people are very rare.  We can't afford to lose all the 
rude ones.  Imagine House MD with House or that music thing without Simon Cowl 
(or whatever his name is)!!  

There are some delicates balancing acts around this issue.  
Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 10:18
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
 
Hello Tom,

I don't know why you posted this on the marketing list, perhaps we
should continue this discussion on discuss@... anyway. 

Maybe such a code of conduct is needed, I don't dwell too much on the
users list to be frank. However, what's really important is to have this
code enforced, and that means to have community members who are able to
moderate and help the mailing list in question to remain polite and
helpful. In this sense, I would trust a few people more than I would
trust a code of conduct. As you do spend much more time  on the Users
mailing list than me, do you think you need such a code, or do you need
more people to help out users (in a polite tone, of course)?

Best,
Charles. 

Le mardi 25 septembre 2012 à 11:04 +0200, Florian Monfort a écrit :
 Hi Tom,
 
 Sure sounds like a great idea :)
 
 +1
 
 --
 Florian Monfort
 Marketing Apprentice at Red Hat
 Marketing Team at The Document Foundation
 Student at France Business School
 +33 6 58 97 15 61
 florian.monf...@gmail.com
 On Sep 25, 2012 11:02 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
  Hi :)
 
  I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of
  Ubuntu's?
 
  http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct
 
 
 
  While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with
  LO is just like us that means very different things for different
  combinations of us.  The marketing list and documentation lists are very
  polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions
  but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very
  unwelcome or even intimidated.  Can we legislate against rudeness?  Can we
  even define it?  Different people obviously have very different ideas about
  what is acceptable behaviour.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice celebrates two years with trail at Latinoware 2012

2012-09-25 Thread Eliane Domingos de Sousa

Greetings!!!

Sharing

http://2012.latinoware.org/?p=1467

Best

Eliane Domingos de Sousa
Brazilian LibreOffice Community

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice celebrates two years with trail at Latinoware 2012

2012-09-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Great article, good pics.  I think the colour-balance on my screen here is a 
bit off and the pics look like they could have used some auto white-balance 
but even so the shots look good and well balanced.  The English in the article 
is good.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Eliane Domingos de Sousa elianedomin...@libreoffice.org
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 13:06
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice celebrates two years with trail 
at Latinoware 2012
 
Greetings!!!

Sharing

http://2012.latinoware.org/?p=1467

Best

Eliane Domingos de Sousa
Brazilian LibreOffice Community

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] more currencies for donations

2012-09-25 Thread Zeki Bildirici
25 Eyl 2012 11:30 tarihinde Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org yazdı:

 Hello,

Hi Florian,

I've misse the recent updates about the donation page.

Having credit card option is great, as the other methods are:
* wire transfer - expensive and requires legal stuff
* Paypal - increasing number of users but, registration and bank side
applications etc.

I think the easiest way to donate from Turkey is Credit card. And i was
waiting that, though i have donated some on monday :)

Well having more currencies great, but i wish Turkish Lira will be in this
list.

After debitting in foreign currencies, banks apply buy/sale transactions
and the amount in local currency is calculated by using a higher rate as
you know. If it is possible adding  TRY - Turkish lira will be good.

Also, -i've missed the thread as i mentioned above- i would like to ask
about the localization of the Donate page. Currently it is only available
in German besides English.

We would be happy to translate it to Turkish and start our campaign to get
donations from Turkey.

Regards,
Zeki

Sent from my mobile. Sorry for the mistypings.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] more currencies for donations

2012-09-25 Thread Florian Effenberger
FYI: I'm working on adding more currencies and improving the page, later 
today people can start translating - stay tuned :)


Zeki Bildirici wrote on 2012-09-25 15:52:

25 Eyl 2012 11:30 tarihinde Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org yazdı:


Hello,


Hi Florian,

I've misse the recent updates about the donation page.

Having credit card option is great, as the other methods are:
* wire transfer - expensive and requires legal stuff
* Paypal - increasing number of users but, registration and bank side
applications etc.

I think the easiest way to donate from Turkey is Credit card. And i was
waiting that, though i have donated some on monday :)

Well having more currencies great, but i wish Turkish Lira will be in this
list.

After debitting in foreign currencies, banks apply buy/sale transactions
and the amount in local currency is calculated by using a higher rate as
you know. If it is possible adding  TRY - Turkish lira will be good.

Also, -i've missed the thread as i mentioned above- i would like to ask
about the localization of the Donate page. Currently it is only available
in German besides English.

We would be happy to translate it to Turkish and start our campaign to get
donations from Turkey.

Regards,
Zeki

Sent from my mobile. Sorry for the mistypings.



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[libreoffice-marketing] translating the new donation page

2012-09-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello everyone,

sorry for the crosspostings, but I wanted to reach out to as many 
community members as possible. ;-)


As some of you know, we have recently launched a new donation page at 
http://donate.libreoffice.org, and from now on, we also accept credit 
card donations without PayPal.


I'd like to call out to the community, to make a translation of that 
page, to grow donations. If you want to help,


1. please ask at webmas...@documentfoundation.org to get appropriate 
rights in SilverStripe, so you can translate the page itself within the 
backend; if you are already registered within Silverstripe, please name 
your accounts e-mail address


2. send to webmas...@documentfoundation.org the following information:

- a translation of the text Select one of the default values
	- a translation of the text Or enter a custom amount and currency 
(only those marked with * are also available via PayPal)

- a translation of the button Donate via Credit Card
- a translation of the button Donate via PayPal
	- your currency (see the dropdown box for the appropriate 
three-letter-code we need)

- four predefined donation values (on the original page: 5, 10, 20 and 
50)
- a predefined custom value (on the original page: 25)

The predefined amounts should roughly correlate with the value of 
Euro/USD in your country. If you are brave, you can directly edit the 
PHP source code and send it to us:


$lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['BUTTON_CARD']   = 'Donate via Credit Card';
$lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['BUTTON_PAYPAL'] = 'Donate via PayPal';
$lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['CHOICE_DEFAULT']= 'Select one of the 
default values';
$lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['CUSTOM_CHOICE'] = 'Or enter a custom 
amount and currencybr/(Only those marked with * are also available via 
PayPal)';

$lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['CUSTOM_AMOUNT_VALUE'] = '25';
$lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DEFAULT_AMOUNT_EUR05']= '5';
$lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DEFAULT_AMOUNT_EUR10']= '10';
$lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DEFAULT_AMOUNT_EUR20']= '20';
$lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DEFAULT_AMOUNT_EUR50']= '50';
$lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DEFAULT_CURRENCY'] = 'USD';

Please do *NOT* send back the information as reply to this message, 
since it will most likely get to the webmasters with a delay. Send it, 
at least as Cc, to webmas...@documentfoundation.org


Thank you very much for your support!
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct

2012-09-25 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi :)
 I'm not on the discuss list but i think you are right.  It would be better 
 there.


 The problem is enforcement.  However, i tend to find that  if a policy is 
 reasonable enough then people self-moderate.  The lack of a policy means 
 people don't think about what might not be ok.  There is a problem with 
 having a small elite group of people acting as moderators as it makes the 
 organisation seem quite hierarchical and patronising.  Then various people 
 dispute the rights of the moderators or feel they can legitimately mistreat 
 the moderators and so on and on.  If you create a police ofrce then you are 
 more likely to need them.  If you don't have one people tend to behave 
 better.  Just my experience of vaious co-operative group's meetings and 
 demonstrations and stuff.  Best to avoid moderators if possible.  Ubuntu's 
 Launchpad works really well without them.


The way it works with Ubuntu and the Ubuntu Code of conduct, is that
you digitally sign the agreement in order to show that you are bound
by it. This appears then in your Launchpad profile, so others can
verify.
Then, if you get into a nasty disagreement with someone that signed
the Code of Conduct, you simply refer them to the document and refuse
to escalate.
I cannot recall a situation in Ubuntu that went sour and was not resolved.

Since the Document Foundation does not offer per-user profile space,
then it should simply add to the mailing list welcome e-mail the text:

By subscribing to the mailing list, you accept to abibe by the
LibreOffice Code of Conduct, found at http:///;

Simos



 From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 10:18
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct

Hello Tom,

I don't know why you posted this on the marketing list, perhaps we
should continue this discussion on discuss@... anyway.

Maybe such a code of conduct is needed, I don't dwell too much on the
users list to be frank. However, what's really important is to have this
code enforced, and that means to have community members who are able to
moderate and help the mailing list in question to remain polite and
helpful. In this sense, I would trust a few people more than I would
trust a code of conduct. As you do spend much more time  on the Users
mailing list than me, do you think you need such a code, or do you need
more people to help out users (in a polite tone, of course)?

Best,
Charles.

Le mardi 25 septembre 2012 à 11:04 +0200, Florian Monfort a écrit :
 Hi Tom,

 Sure sounds like a great idea :)

 +1

 --
 Florian Monfort
 Marketing Apprentice at Red Hat
 Marketing Team at The Document Foundation
 Student at France Business School
 +33 6 58 97 15 61
 florian.monf...@gmail.com
 On Sep 25, 2012 11:02 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

  Hi :)
 
  I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of
  Ubuntu's?
 
  http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct
 
 
 
  While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with
  LO is just like us that means very different things for different
  combinations of us.  The marketing list and documentation lists are very
  polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions
  but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very
  unwelcome or even intimidated.  Can we legislate against rudeness?  Can we
  even define it?  Different people obviously have very different ideas 
  about
  what is acceptable behaviour.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
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