[libreoffice-marketing] more currencies for donations
Hello, I've just checked with our card provider, and we can now accept more currencies for donations. I've checked what PayPal and our provider support as common denominator, and have added that list to the dropdown of http://donate.libreoffice.org Florian -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board (Vorstandsvorsitzender) Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
Hi :) I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of Ubuntu's? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with LO is just like us that means very different things for different combinations of us. The marketing list and documentation lists are very polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome or even intimidated. Can we legislate against rudeness? Can we even define it? Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is acceptable behaviour. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
Hello Tom, I don't know why you posted this on the marketing list, perhaps we should continue this discussion on discuss@... anyway. Maybe such a code of conduct is needed, I don't dwell too much on the users list to be frank. However, what's really important is to have this code enforced, and that means to have community members who are able to moderate and help the mailing list in question to remain polite and helpful. In this sense, I would trust a few people more than I would trust a code of conduct. As you do spend much more time on the Users mailing list than me, do you think you need such a code, or do you need more people to help out users (in a polite tone, of course)? Best, Charles. Le mardi 25 septembre 2012 à 11:04 +0200, Florian Monfort a écrit : Hi Tom, Sure sounds like a great idea :) +1 -- Florian Monfort Marketing Apprentice at Red Hat Marketing Team at The Document Foundation Student at France Business School +33 6 58 97 15 61 florian.monf...@gmail.com On Sep 25, 2012 11:02 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of Ubuntu's? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with LO is just like us that means very different things for different combinations of us. The marketing list and documentation lists are very polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome or even intimidated. Can we legislate against rudeness? Can we even define it? Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is acceptable behaviour. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
Hi :) I'm not on the discuss list but i think you are right. It would be better there. The problem is enforcement. However, i tend to find that if a policy is reasonable enough then people self-moderate. The lack of a policy means people don't think about what might not be ok. There is a problem with having a small elite group of people acting as moderators as it makes the organisation seem quite hierarchical and patronising. Then various people dispute the rights of the moderators or feel they can legitimately mistreat the moderators and so on and on. If you create a police ofrce then you are more likely to need them. If you don't have one people tend to behave better. Just my experience of vaious co-operative group's meetings and demonstrations and stuff. Best to avoid moderators if possible. Ubuntu's Launchpad works really well without them. Anyway, best for the discuss group Regards from Tom :) From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 10:18 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct Hello Tom, I don't know why you posted this on the marketing list, perhaps we should continue this discussion on discuss@... anyway. Maybe such a code of conduct is needed, I don't dwell too much on the users list to be frank. However, what's really important is to have this code enforced, and that means to have community members who are able to moderate and help the mailing list in question to remain polite and helpful. In this sense, I would trust a few people more than I would trust a code of conduct. As you do spend much more time on the Users mailing list than me, do you think you need such a code, or do you need more people to help out users (in a polite tone, of course)? Best, Charles. Le mardi 25 septembre 2012 à 11:04 +0200, Florian Monfort a écrit : Hi Tom, Sure sounds like a great idea :) +1 -- Florian Monfort Marketing Apprentice at Red Hat Marketing Team at The Document Foundation Student at France Business School +33 6 58 97 15 61 florian.monf...@gmail.com On Sep 25, 2012 11:02 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of Ubuntu's? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with LO is just like us that means very different things for different combinations of us. The marketing list and documentation lists are very polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome or even intimidated. Can we legislate against rudeness? Can we even define it? Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is acceptable behaviour. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
Hi :) The main problem as i see it is that a lot of the people that give the best answers and really fix most of the trickiest and seemingly intractable problems are the people with the bad attitude towards most of the people asking questions. We need them. There are a few people that are also pretty fantastic and still manage to treat people with respect and even in a friendly positive manner. Such people are very rare. We can't afford to lose all the rude ones. Imagine House MD with House or that music thing without Simon Cowl (or whatever his name is)!! There are some delicates balancing acts around this issue. Regards from Tom :) From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 10:18 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct Hello Tom, I don't know why you posted this on the marketing list, perhaps we should continue this discussion on discuss@... anyway. Maybe such a code of conduct is needed, I don't dwell too much on the users list to be frank. However, what's really important is to have this code enforced, and that means to have community members who are able to moderate and help the mailing list in question to remain polite and helpful. In this sense, I would trust a few people more than I would trust a code of conduct. As you do spend much more time on the Users mailing list than me, do you think you need such a code, or do you need more people to help out users (in a polite tone, of course)? Best, Charles. Le mardi 25 septembre 2012 à 11:04 +0200, Florian Monfort a écrit : Hi Tom, Sure sounds like a great idea :) +1 -- Florian Monfort Marketing Apprentice at Red Hat Marketing Team at The Document Foundation Student at France Business School +33 6 58 97 15 61 florian.monf...@gmail.com On Sep 25, 2012 11:02 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of Ubuntu's? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with LO is just like us that means very different things for different combinations of us. The marketing list and documentation lists are very polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome or even intimidated. Can we legislate against rudeness? Can we even define it? Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is acceptable behaviour. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice celebrates two years with trail at Latinoware 2012
Greetings!!! Sharing http://2012.latinoware.org/?p=1467 Best Eliane Domingos de Sousa Brazilian LibreOffice Community -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice celebrates two years with trail at Latinoware 2012
Hi :) Great article, good pics. I think the colour-balance on my screen here is a bit off and the pics look like they could have used some auto white-balance but even so the shots look good and well balanced. The English in the article is good. Regards from Tom :) From: Eliane Domingos de Sousa elianedomin...@libreoffice.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 13:06 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice celebrates two years with trail at Latinoware 2012 Greetings!!! Sharing http://2012.latinoware.org/?p=1467 Best Eliane Domingos de Sousa Brazilian LibreOffice Community -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] more currencies for donations
25 Eyl 2012 11:30 tarihinde Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org yazdı: Hello, Hi Florian, I've misse the recent updates about the donation page. Having credit card option is great, as the other methods are: * wire transfer - expensive and requires legal stuff * Paypal - increasing number of users but, registration and bank side applications etc. I think the easiest way to donate from Turkey is Credit card. And i was waiting that, though i have donated some on monday :) Well having more currencies great, but i wish Turkish Lira will be in this list. After debitting in foreign currencies, banks apply buy/sale transactions and the amount in local currency is calculated by using a higher rate as you know. If it is possible adding TRY - Turkish lira will be good. Also, -i've missed the thread as i mentioned above- i would like to ask about the localization of the Donate page. Currently it is only available in German besides English. We would be happy to translate it to Turkish and start our campaign to get donations from Turkey. Regards, Zeki Sent from my mobile. Sorry for the mistypings. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] more currencies for donations
FYI: I'm working on adding more currencies and improving the page, later today people can start translating - stay tuned :) Zeki Bildirici wrote on 2012-09-25 15:52: 25 Eyl 2012 11:30 tarihinde Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org yazdı: Hello, Hi Florian, I've misse the recent updates about the donation page. Having credit card option is great, as the other methods are: * wire transfer - expensive and requires legal stuff * Paypal - increasing number of users but, registration and bank side applications etc. I think the easiest way to donate from Turkey is Credit card. And i was waiting that, though i have donated some on monday :) Well having more currencies great, but i wish Turkish Lira will be in this list. After debitting in foreign currencies, banks apply buy/sale transactions and the amount in local currency is calculated by using a higher rate as you know. If it is possible adding TRY - Turkish lira will be good. Also, -i've missed the thread as i mentioned above- i would like to ask about the localization of the Donate page. Currently it is only available in German besides English. We would be happy to translate it to Turkish and start our campaign to get donations from Turkey. Regards, Zeki Sent from my mobile. Sorry for the mistypings. -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board (Vorstandsvorsitzender) Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] translating the new donation page
Hello everyone, sorry for the crosspostings, but I wanted to reach out to as many community members as possible. ;-) As some of you know, we have recently launched a new donation page at http://donate.libreoffice.org, and from now on, we also accept credit card donations without PayPal. I'd like to call out to the community, to make a translation of that page, to grow donations. If you want to help, 1. please ask at webmas...@documentfoundation.org to get appropriate rights in SilverStripe, so you can translate the page itself within the backend; if you are already registered within Silverstripe, please name your accounts e-mail address 2. send to webmas...@documentfoundation.org the following information: - a translation of the text Select one of the default values - a translation of the text Or enter a custom amount and currency (only those marked with * are also available via PayPal) - a translation of the button Donate via Credit Card - a translation of the button Donate via PayPal - your currency (see the dropdown box for the appropriate three-letter-code we need) - four predefined donation values (on the original page: 5, 10, 20 and 50) - a predefined custom value (on the original page: 25) The predefined amounts should roughly correlate with the value of Euro/USD in your country. If you are brave, you can directly edit the PHP source code and send it to us: $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['BUTTON_CARD'] = 'Donate via Credit Card'; $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['BUTTON_PAYPAL'] = 'Donate via PayPal'; $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['CHOICE_DEFAULT']= 'Select one of the default values'; $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['CUSTOM_CHOICE'] = 'Or enter a custom amount and currencybr/(Only those marked with * are also available via PayPal)'; $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['CUSTOM_AMOUNT_VALUE'] = '25'; $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DEFAULT_AMOUNT_EUR05']= '5'; $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DEFAULT_AMOUNT_EUR10']= '10'; $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DEFAULT_AMOUNT_EUR20']= '20'; $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DEFAULT_AMOUNT_EUR50']= '50'; $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DEFAULT_CURRENCY'] = 'USD'; Please do *NOT* send back the information as reply to this message, since it will most likely get to the webmasters with a delay. Send it, at least as Cc, to webmas...@documentfoundation.org Thank you very much for your support! Florian -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board (Vorstandsvorsitzender) Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I'm not on the discuss list but i think you are right. It would be better there. The problem is enforcement. However, i tend to find that if a policy is reasonable enough then people self-moderate. The lack of a policy means people don't think about what might not be ok. There is a problem with having a small elite group of people acting as moderators as it makes the organisation seem quite hierarchical and patronising. Then various people dispute the rights of the moderators or feel they can legitimately mistreat the moderators and so on and on. If you create a police ofrce then you are more likely to need them. If you don't have one people tend to behave better. Just my experience of vaious co-operative group's meetings and demonstrations and stuff. Best to avoid moderators if possible. Ubuntu's Launchpad works really well without them. The way it works with Ubuntu and the Ubuntu Code of conduct, is that you digitally sign the agreement in order to show that you are bound by it. This appears then in your Launchpad profile, so others can verify. Then, if you get into a nasty disagreement with someone that signed the Code of Conduct, you simply refer them to the document and refuse to escalate. I cannot recall a situation in Ubuntu that went sour and was not resolved. Since the Document Foundation does not offer per-user profile space, then it should simply add to the mailing list welcome e-mail the text: By subscribing to the mailing list, you accept to abibe by the LibreOffice Code of Conduct, found at http:///; Simos From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 10:18 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct Hello Tom, I don't know why you posted this on the marketing list, perhaps we should continue this discussion on discuss@... anyway. Maybe such a code of conduct is needed, I don't dwell too much on the users list to be frank. However, what's really important is to have this code enforced, and that means to have community members who are able to moderate and help the mailing list in question to remain polite and helpful. In this sense, I would trust a few people more than I would trust a code of conduct. As you do spend much more time on the Users mailing list than me, do you think you need such a code, or do you need more people to help out users (in a polite tone, of course)? Best, Charles. Le mardi 25 septembre 2012 à 11:04 +0200, Florian Monfort a écrit : Hi Tom, Sure sounds like a great idea :) +1 -- Florian Monfort Marketing Apprentice at Red Hat Marketing Team at The Document Foundation Student at France Business School +33 6 58 97 15 61 florian.monf...@gmail.com On Sep 25, 2012 11:02 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of Ubuntu's? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with LO is just like us that means very different things for different combinations of us. The marketing list and documentation lists are very polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome or even intimidated. Can we legislate against rudeness? Can we even define it? Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is acceptable behaviour. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?