[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [el] translation of today's PR
Hi Kostas, Thanks for the translation. Has this been posted to the Greek mailing lists? I believe Florian's request was that whoever translated the page could post it to their own native language lists. Cheers, Marc Le 2012-09-28 18:30, Kostas Mousafiris a écrit : Please find below the Greek translation of the original PR text: Original Message Subject: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation celebrates its second anniversary Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:01:14 +0200 From: Italo Vignoliit...@documentfoundation.org Reply-to: it...@documentfoundation.org Organization: The Document Foundation To: annou...@documentfoundation.org Το Ίδρυμα The Document Foundation γιορτάζει τα δεύτερα γενέθλιά του και αρχίζει την συλλογή οικονομικών πόρων για να μπορέσει να προχωρήσει στο επόμενο στάδιο. Οι δωρεές του τετάρτου τριμήνου καθορίζουν τον προϋπολογισμό της Κοινότητας για τον επόμενο χρόνο. Βερολίνο, Σεπτέμβριος 28, 2012 - Το Ίδρυμα The Document Foundation γιορτάζει τα δεύτερα γενέθλιά του από την αρχική ανακοίνωση του project, στις 28 Σεπτεμβρίου του 2010. Κατά τους τελευταίους 12 μήνες, το TDF ιδρύθηκε στο Βερολίνο σύμφωνα με το νόμο και τα Μέλη του TDF εξέλεξαν το Διοικητικό Συμβούλιο και την Επιτροπή Μελών. Η ιδιότητα του Μέλους βασίζεται στην αξιοκρατία και δεν αποκτάται μετά από πρόσκληση, η Intel έγινε υποστηρικτής και ανακοινώθηκαν οι οικογένειες του LibreOffice 3.5 και του 3.6. Επιπλέον, το TDF παρουσίασε τα πρωτότυπα μίας έκδοσης του LibreOffice για το νέφος (cloud) και μίας για ταμπλέτες, που θα είναι διαθέσιμες κάποια στιγμή προς τα τέλη του 2013 ή στις αρχές του 2014. Την 1η Οκτωβρίου, το The Document Foundation θα εγκαινιάσει μία εκστρατεία συλλογής οικονομικών πόρων, με στόχο την υποστήριξη της επόμενης φάσης ανάπτυξης. Μέχρι τώρα, οι εθελοντές ήταν εκείνοι που προσέφεραν την περισσότερη δουλειά που ήταν απαραίτητη για τη διατήρηση του έργου, αλλά μετά την πάροδο δύο ετών, είναι υποχρεωτικό να αρχίσουμε να σκεφτόμαστε σε μια πραγματικά μεγάλη κλίμακα, λέει ο Italo Vignoli, ο εκπρόσωπος του Διοικητικού Συμβουλίου. Είχαμε ένα όνειρο και τώρα που χιλιάδες ανά τον κόσμο βοήθησαν να γίνει το όνειρο πραγματικότητα, θέλουμε να μπούμε στην υψηλότερη κατηγορία παραγωγής λογισμικού και υποστήριξης. Μέσω των δωρεών κατά τη διάρκεια του τετάρτου τριμήνου του 2012, οι δωρητές θα καθορίσουν τον προϋπολογισμό που θα έχουμε στη διάθεσή μας για το 2013. Τα μέλη της Κοινότητας έστησαν μια σελίδα αποκλειστικά για τις δωρεές - με πολλές και διάφορες επιλογές, περιλαμβανομένης και της δυνατότητας πληρωμής μέσω του PayPal ή και των πιστωτικών καρτών - στη διεύθυνση http://donate.libreoffice.org, για να υποστηριχθεί η εκστρατεία συλλογής οικονομκών πόρων. Η σελίδα θα ενημερώνεται on the fly, για να δείχνει τις μέχρι εκείνη τη στιγμή επιτυχίες και ποιους συγκεκριμμένους στόχους πετύχαμε με τις δωρεές. Μέσα σε μόλις 24 μήνες, καταφέραμε αυτό που πολλοί πίστευαν ως αδύνατον, όταν το έργο πρωτοξεκίνησε, λέει ο Thorsten Behrens, προγραμματιστής του SUSE και Αντιπρόεδρος στο Δ.Σ.. Καταφέραμε να συγκεντρώσουμε πολλούς ανθρώπους γύρω από την ιδέα ότι ένα ανεξάρτητο ίδρυμα ήταν η μόνη λογική επιλογή για να προσφέρουμε ένα διατηρήσιμο μέλλον στον κώδικα legacy του OOo. Σύμφωνα με τον Ohloh, μέσα σε μόλις δύο χρόνια, κατορθώσαμε να γίνουμε το τρίτο μεγαλύτερο έργο ελεύθερου λογισμικού, που εστιάζει στην ανάπτυξη μιας εφαρμογής για την επιφάνεια εργασίας, με 325 ενεργούς συνεισφέροντες (committers), κατά τη διάρκεια των τελευταίων 12 μηνών, μετά τον Firefox και το Chrome. Το LibreOffice είναι το αποτέλεσμα της συνδυασμένης δραστηριότητας 540 ανθρώπων που συνεισφέρουν - περιλαμβανομένων των πρώην προγραμματιστών του OpenOffice.org - αφού έκαναν παραπάνω από 40,000 commits. Το πρόγραμμα είναι γρηγορότερο και πιο αξιόπιστο και διαθέτει ένα πλουσιότερο σύνολο χαρακτηριστικών από ότι οι προκάτοχοί του και οι ανταγωνιστές του, χάρη σε μια αναπτυσσόμενη κοινότητα hacker, όπου οι περισσότερο έμπειροι προγραμματιστές εποπτεύουν και συμβουλεύουν τους νεότερους, για να τους βοηθήσουν να μπουν και αυτοί στην ίδια ταχύτητα. Σήμερα, η ομάδα είναι καλά ζυγισμένη, ανάμεσα στους ανθρώπους που φροντίζουν την υποδομή, τα νέα χαρακτηριστικά και τα διορθωτικά patches. Τα Downloads από τις 25 Ιανουαρίου του 2011, ημερομηνία κυκλοφορίας της πρώτης σταθερής έκδοσης, μόλις υπερέβησαν τα 18 εκατομμύρια, ενώ φθάνουν ακόμη και πάνω από 20 εκατομμύρια, αν προσθέσετε και τους εξωτερικούς ιστότοπους που προσφέρουν το ίδιο πακέτο. Επιπλέον, εκατομμύρια χρηστών εγκαθιστούν το LibreOffice από CD, που δημιουργήθηκαν είτε από εικόνες ISO διαθέσιμες online, είτε δόθηκαν μαζί με περιοδικά, σε πολλά μέρη. Περίπου το 90% των εγκαταστάσεων είναι σε περιβάλλον Windows, και ακόμη ένα περαιτέρω 10% σε περιβάλλον MacOS. Οι χρήστες Linux, αντιθέτως, παίρνουν το LibreOffice κατευθείαν μέσα από τα αποθετήρια της διανομής τους. Με βάση τους υπολογισμούς του IDC σχετικά τις νέες ή τις ενημερωμένες εγκαταστάσεις σε Linux, μέσα στο 2012, το TDF εκτιμά ένα
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: SFD event coming up in Kenya
Hi Tom and Evans Le 2012-09-28 16:53, Tom Davies a écrit : From: Evans Ikuaikua.ev...@gmail.com To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 7 July 2012, 17:59 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] SFD event coming up in Kenya I have been lurking here for some time now. But I will be seeing some action soon. We are planning a Software Freedom Day event on 1st September here in Nairobi, Kenya. I would love to take this opportunity to market LO and any pointers will be welcome. Anyone with some designs of posters, banners etc? I would appreciate any pointers and advise. -- * Kind Regards, Evans Ikua,* lanetconsulting.com, lpi-eastafrica.org, ict-innovation.fossfa.net, Skype: @ikuae Cell: +254-722-955831 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Hi :) Just found this email! How did the event on the 1st go? Does anyone know? Any pics? Regards from Tom :) Actually, it would make for a wonderful blog article if there were photos to accompany a short summary of the event. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in MacWorld Australia
MacWorld Australia lists LibreOffice as one of its must have Mac Apps. http://www.macworld.com.au/features/must-have-mac-apps-73924/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
Hello, Op 25-09-12 11:01, Tom Davies schreef: Hi :) I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of Ubuntu's? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with LO is just like us that means very different things for different combinations of us. The marketing list and documentation lists are very polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome or even intimidated. Can we legislate against rudeness? Can we even define it? Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is acceptable behaviour. Regards from Tom :) If you see read rude comments on a list, go in discussion with the writer off-list and post a nice reply on-list. I am pretty sure this will help more then a Code of conduct which is very difficult to enforce. Best regards -- Leo Moons LibreOffice/nl Nous sommes condamnés à être libres -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be wrote: Hello, Op 25-09-12 11:01, Tom Davies schreef: Hi :) I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of Ubuntu's? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with LO is just like us that means very different things for different combinations of us. The marketing list and documentation lists are very polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome or even intimidated. Can we legislate against rudeness? Can we even define it? Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is acceptable behaviour. Regards from Tom :) If you see read rude comments on a list, go in discussion with the writer off-list and post a nice reply on-list. I am pretty sure this will help more then a Code of conduct which is very difficult to enforce. The way I use the Code of Conduct is to refer people there when they are rude or abusive. They might just have a bad time or it might be a more general attitude. If you were to take it off-list as standard practice, then it would consume you in the long run. It definetely does not scale, and *you* are very important to LibreOffice. Just like you might have people asking the same technical question on LibreOffice for the n-th time, and you simply refer them to a Wiki page, the Code of Conduct has the purpose of such a Wiki page on bad attitudes. The purpose is to show the bad attitudes are not acceptable and you refuse to enter the messy situation. I haven't personally witnessed a case for enforcing the code of conduct and that is fine. Let's say that you witness an ad feminam attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) which some consider acceptable even in the western societies. How would you deal with that off-list? Are ad feminam widespread? See https://lwn.net/Articles/417952/ which discusses unacceptable behaviour at open-source conferences. Whether someone starts volunteering their time to LibreOffice or some other free software project is a sensitive process. In many cases (citation needed), their decision may be dictacted on whether they happen to encounter bad behaviour. At the moment, the LibreOffice online community is relatively small, and mainly English speaking. The more LibreOffice grows, the more diverse the user-group gets. Some things that are acceptable at one place might not be acceptable elsewhere. Other communities, like at ubuntuforums.org, have over 1.7 million subscribed members and they have a code of conduct to help coordinators and other volunteers. The Ubuntu community plans to update to Code of Conduct v2, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/09/27/code-of-conduct-v2-request-for-feedback/ and there is a facility to translate the document in different languages. I believe that it would be great 1. to adopt a Code of Conduct document (perhaps similar to the Ubuntu one) 2. have it translated by the NL teams so that they can use locally 3. refer bad behaviour to the Code of Conduct instead of engaging As LibreOffice Marketing, you cannot engage with someone such as a troll. You need to deflect, and the Code of Conduct is one such tool. Simos (EL) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
Hi :) Also dealing with it off-list doesn't let other witnesses know that the behaviour may not have been acceptable unless and until the person being rude accepts, agrees and issues an apology to the list. Going off-list only usually works with someone that is normally polite and considerate but had a momentary aberration = perhaps a bad-hair-day, illness, stress or whatever. At worst the problem escalates and ends with one or other getting bullied or attacked. Finishing it quickly on-list means there are other people around to keep it real If people want examples of rude behaviour directed at people whose only crime was to be new to lists and new to OpenSource then i have a folder full i could pass on. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 29/9/12, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct To: Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 29 September, 2012, 12:29 On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be wrote: Hello, Op 25-09-12 11:01, Tom Davies schreef: Hi :) I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of Ubuntu's? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with LO is just like us that means very different things for different combinations of us. The marketing list and documentation lists are very polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome or even intimidated. Can we legislate against rudeness? Can we even define it? Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is acceptable behaviour. Regards from Tom :) If you see read rude comments on a list, go in discussion with the writer off-list and post a nice reply on-list. I am pretty sure this will help more then a Code of conduct which is very difficult to enforce. The way I use the Code of Conduct is to refer people there when they are rude or abusive. They might just have a bad time or it might be a more general attitude. If you were to take it off-list as standard practice, then it would consume you in the long run. It definetely does not scale, and *you* are very important to LibreOffice. Just like you might have people asking the same technical question on LibreOffice for the n-th time, and you simply refer them to a Wiki page, the Code of Conduct has the purpose of such a Wiki page on bad attitudes. The purpose is to show the bad attitudes are not acceptable and you refuse to enter the messy situation. I haven't personally witnessed a case for enforcing the code of conduct and that is fine. Let's say that you witness an ad feminam attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) which some consider acceptable even in the western societies. How would you deal with that off-list? Are ad feminam widespread? See https://lwn.net/Articles/417952/ which discusses unacceptable behaviour at open-source conferences. Whether someone starts volunteering their time to LibreOffice or some other free software project is a sensitive process. In many cases (citation needed), their decision may be dictacted on whether they happen to encounter bad behaviour. At the moment, the LibreOffice online community is relatively small, and mainly English speaking. The more LibreOffice grows, the more diverse the user-group gets. Some things that are acceptable at one place might not be acceptable elsewhere. Other communities, like at ubuntuforums.org, have over 1.7 million subscribed members and they have a code of conduct to help coordinators and other volunteers. The Ubuntu community plans to update to Code of Conduct v2, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/09/27/code-of-conduct-v2-request-for-feedback/ and there is a facility to translate the document in different languages. I believe that it would be great 1. to adopt a Code of Conduct document (perhaps similar to the Ubuntu one) 2. have it translated by the NL teams so that they can use locally 3. refer bad behaviour to the Code of Conduct instead of engaging As LibreOffice Marketing, you cannot engage with someone such as a troll. You need to deflect, and the Code of Conduct is one such tool. Simos (EL) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more:
Good to have, not good to enforce Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
Hi :) Errr, just to clarify that i think having a policy to quickly point to would be a good thing. Setting-up enforcement and a formal part of the grievance procedure to deal with it would be tooo heavy-handed and probably counter-productive. When i say i have a folder full, that has been built-up over 2 years on an international list with people from all sorts of different backgrounds and cultures. It's not nothing and just because certain people haven't noticed it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It has been just about manageable over the last couple of years but does keep on having to be dealt with in an unsatisfactory way. Having a policy to draw to people's attention to would probably solve it. Regards from Tom :) From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be; Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 29 September 2012, 12:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct Hi :) Also dealing with it off-list doesn't let other witnesses know that the behaviour may not have been acceptable unless and until the person being rude accepts, agrees and issues an apology to the list. Going off-list only usually works with someone that is normally polite and considerate but had a momentary aberration = perhaps a bad-hair-day, illness, stress or whatever. At worst the problem escalates and ends with one or other getting bullied or attacked. Finishing it quickly on-list means there are other people around to keep it real If people want examples of rude behaviour directed at people whose only crime was to be new to lists and new to OpenSource then i have a folder full i could pass on. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 29/9/12, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct To: Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 29 September, 2012, 12:29 On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be wrote: Hello, Op 25-09-12 11:01, Tom Davies schreef: Hi :) I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of Ubuntu's? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with LO is just like us that means very different things for different combinations of us. The marketing list and documentation lists are very polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome or even intimidated. Can we legislate against rudeness? Can we even define it? Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is acceptable behaviour. Regards from Tom :) If you see read rude comments on a list, go in discussion with the writer off-list and post a nice reply on-list. I am pretty sure this will help more then a Code of conduct which is very difficult to enforce. The way I use the Code of Conduct is to refer people there when they are rude or abusive. They might just have a bad time or it might be a more general attitude. If you were to take it off-list as standard practice, then it would consume you in the long run. It definetely does not scale, and *you* are very important to LibreOffice. Just like you might have people asking the same technical question on LibreOffice for the n-th time, and you simply refer them to a Wiki page, the Code of Conduct has the purpose of such a Wiki page on bad attitudes. The purpose is to show the bad attitudes are not acceptable and you refuse to enter the messy situation. I haven't personally witnessed a case for enforcing the code of conduct and that is fine. Let's say that you witness an ad feminam attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) which some consider acceptable even in the western societies. How would you deal with that off-list? Are ad feminam widespread? See https://lwn.net/Articles/417952/ which discusses unacceptable behaviour at open-source conferences. Whether someone starts volunteering their time to LibreOffice or some other free software project is a sensitive process. In many cases (citation needed), their decision may be dictacted on whether they happen to encounter bad behaviour. At the moment, the LibreOffice online community is relatively small, and mainly English speaking. The more LibreOffice grows, the more diverse the user-group gets. Some things that are acceptable at one place might not be acceptable elsewhere. Other communities, like at ubuntuforums.org, have over 1.7 million subscribed members and they have a code of conduct to help coordinators and other volunteers. The Ubuntu community plans to update to Code of Conduct v2,
Re: Good to have, not good to enforce Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Errr, just to clarify that i think having a policy to quickly point to would be a good thing. Setting-up enforcement and a formal part of the grievance procedure to deal with it would be tooo heavy-handed and probably counter-productive. For the part of the marketing, there is little use for enforcement, as the offenders will be probably outside the LibreOffice project. In the specific case of the future LibreOffice forum, it would be an issue of the admins/coordinators to deal with. It would be up to them to figure out how a case should be resolved. I expect that in the extreme case of an unrepentant troll, the admins/coordinators would consider imposing a ban. Would that be 'enforcing the code of conduct'? I would say that taking an action such as banning an unrepentant troll is a decision of the coordinators on a case-by-case basis, and the decision is assisted because there was already in place this code of conduct. I've spent time as a coordinator in forums; if you do not deal with the antisocial behaviour, then the forum collapses. When i say i have a folder full, that has been built-up over 2 years on an international list with people from all sorts of different backgrounds and cultures. It's not nothing and just because certain people haven't noticed it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It has been just about manageable over the last couple of years but does keep on having to be dealt with in an unsatisfactory way. Having a policy to draw to people's attention to would probably solve it. Up to now we (LibreOffice) did not have a proportionate online community. Compared to Linux distributions, LibreOffice is more widely used. If it is done right, the online communities will have millions of members. Simos From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be; Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 29 September 2012, 12:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct Hi :) Also dealing with it off-list doesn't let other witnesses know that the behaviour may not have been acceptable unless and until the person being rude accepts, agrees and issues an apology to the list. Going off-list only usually works with someone that is normally polite and considerate but had a momentary aberration = perhaps a bad-hair-day, illness, stress or whatever. At worst the problem escalates and ends with one or other getting bullied or attacked. Finishing it quickly on-list means there are other people around to keep it real If people want examples of rude behaviour directed at people whose only crime was to be new to lists and new to OpenSource then i have a folder full i could pass on. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 29/9/12, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Code of Conduct To: Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 29 September, 2012, 12:29 On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be wrote: Hello, Op 25-09-12 11:01, Tom Davies schreef: Hi :) I was wondering if we could set-up a Code of Conduct along the lines of Ubuntu's? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with LO is just like us that means very different things for different combinations of us. The marketing list and documentation lists are very polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very unwelcome or even intimidated. Can we legislate against rudeness? Can we even define it? Different people obviously have very different ideas about what is acceptable behaviour. Regards from Tom :) If you see read rude comments on a list, go in discussion with the writer off-list and post a nice reply on-list. I am pretty sure this will help more then a Code of conduct which is very difficult to enforce. The way I use the Code of Conduct is to refer people there when they are rude or abusive. They might just have a bad time or it might be a more general attitude. If you were to take it off-list as standard practice, then it would consume you in the long run. It definetely does not scale, and *you* are very important to LibreOffice. Just like you might have people asking the same technical question on LibreOffice for the n-th time, and you simply refer them to a Wiki page, the Code of Conduct has the purpose of such a Wiki page on bad attitudes. The purpose is to show the bad attitudes are not acceptable and you refuse to enter the messy situation. I haven't personally witnessed a case for enforcing the code of conduct and that is fine. Let's
[libreoffice-marketing] donation campaign flyer
Dear all, I prepared a flyer for the donation campaign in Brazil. I'm sharing the source file. * SVG: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Flyer-donate.libo.svg * PNG: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Flyer-donate.libo.png * Font: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Vegur.zip _* *__*Translations:*_ DONATION CAMPAIGN Help with a donation the LibreOffice Project. Best, Eliane Domingos de Sousa Brazilian LibreOffice Community -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] The Document Foundation and Open Source LibreOffice Enter Year Three article
A short but positive article on LibreOffice. It mentions it against the development of AOO.[1] Cheers, Marc [1] http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/the-document-foundation-and-open-source-libreoffice-enter-year-three.html -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
