[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Event Calendar
Hi Immanuel, Le 2012-12-29 09:33, Immanuel Giulea a écrit : Hello Florian, Marc and everyone, Good timing on the calendar. I was going to suggest having one on the wiki where everyone could contribute. Perhaps a Google Spreadsheet would be nice. Is the calendar open/crowd-sourced? Immanuel Our events calendar can be found both on the website in the About Us section, and, on the wiki. You can find the link in our Marketing section[1]. The calendar is a Google Calendar and the same information is the same on both the website and wiki page. The website calendar uses the an iFrame and can show more than one calendar at a time; the wiki calendar uses a wikimedia plugin, but this particular plugin does not allow for multiple calendars. The admins to the calendar are both Florian and myself. It would be great if there were just one more volunteer to help out with the calendar. There is very little work to do for it ... probably takes up no more than 1hr per month of work -- maybe less. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Happy New Year and a git from Brazilian LibreOffice Community
Hi Eliane, Le 2012-12-29 11:12, Eliane Domingos de Sousa a écrit : Dear Community, I have no enough words to wish you all a wonderful and spectacular 2013. I'm very greatful and happy to be part of this Community. Because of this, I prepare a simple gift for you. The LibreOffice Calendar 2013 in English, but I didn't insert the holidays. :) But no worries, I prepared the file in LibreOffice Draw and shared with you. As always, feel free to use and share. ODG file: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:HAPPY_NEW_YEAR_ENGLISH-2013.odg JPG file: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:HAPPY_NEW_YEAR_ENGLISH-2013.jpg Sincerely Eliane Domingos de Sousa Brazilian LibreOffice Community Thanks! Nice design! Could I add this also to our resources wiki page? Happy new year to you as well and many thanks to you and the BR-PT Community for your contributions. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
Hi Italo and Immanuel, Le 2012-12-29 16:49, Italo Vignoli a écrit : Sorry for top posting, but I think that the idea of creating a wiki page where we can brainstorm about the selling points for Windows (as Microsoft document is focused on Windows, which is their cash cow) is very good. All the points that have been raised so far are extremely good, and I think that we should pick them and paste in a starting document. I am currently working at the final version of the migration and training protocol for certification, and I do not have the time for creating this wiki page for a few days. Anyone could create the page though, in the Marketing area of TDF wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing I would call the page Selling Point vs MS Office, because this is the summary of the contents. Marc can definitely help in creating the page, if someone has problems with the wiki. I am definitely interested in helping with the contents, once I will have finished working on the certification protocols. I think Immanuel has offered to lead on this. I can help with setting up the page. I like the good arguments on this thread. We have to make sure that we are as factual as possible. MS will capitalize on any claims that we make that are not factual, so we have to watch carefully over our claims. Immanuel, let me know if you need any help with the wiki page. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Happy New Year and a git from Brazilian LibreOffice Community
Hi Marc, Sure! Best Eliane Domingos de Sousa Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil Liberte-se, para editar textos, planilhas e apresentações use http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/ é totalmente de graça. Em 30-12-2012 06:21, Marc Paré escreveu: Hi Eliane, Le 2012-12-29 11:12, Eliane Domingos de Sousa a écrit : Dear Community, I have no enough words to wish you all a wonderful and spectacular 2013. I'm very greatful and happy to be part of this Community. Because of this, I prepare a simple gift for you. The LibreOffice Calendar 2013 in English, but I didn't insert the holidays. :) But no worries, I prepared the file in LibreOffice Draw and shared with you. As always, feel free to use and share. ODG file: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:HAPPY_NEW_YEAR_ENGLISH-2013.odg JPG file: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:HAPPY_NEW_YEAR_ENGLISH-2013.jpg Sincerely Eliane Domingos de Sousa Brazilian LibreOffice Community Thanks! Nice design! Could I add this also to our resources wiki page? Happy new year to you as well and many thanks to you and the BR-PT Community for your contributions. Cheers, Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Piktochart Account
I have applied for a Charity Account at Piktochart, which is a cloud system to produce nice infographics (http://piktochart.com/charity/). The charity account costs 39,99 dollars per year, instead of 199,99 $ for the Pro Account, and allows to improve the overall appearance of infographics, and reduce at the same time the effort by using ready made templates. I do not know if it is possible to have more than one user, which would be the best solution for the marketing group, but I will let you know as soon as possible. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] ubuntu libreoffice bugs tracking
I don't know wether such bugs are already known or should be connected to LO bugzilla or so.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] ubuntu libreoffice bugs tracking
On 12/30/12 1:59 PM, Paolo Debortoli wrote: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice The question should be addressed to the QA or development mailing lists, and not on the marketing mailing list. I strongly suspect that Bjoern Michaelsen is aware of this list of bugs, but I have copied him just in case. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Event Calendar
Hi Marc, On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: The admins to the calendar are both Florian and myself. It would be great if there were just one more volunteer to help out with the calendar. There is very little work to do for it ... probably takes up no more than 1hr per month of work -- maybe less. You can count me as the extra volunteer :) Immanuel p.s. I am not on the marketing team, how do I join? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
Hi Marc and all, On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: I think Immanuel has offered to lead on this. I can help with setting up the page. I like the good arguments on this thread. We have to make sure that we are as factual as possible. MS will capitalize on any claims that we make that are not factual, so we have to watch carefully over our claims. Immanuel, let me know if you need any help with the wiki page. Cheers, Marc I am happy to help in any way I can. If you could be kind enough to run me through the 101 of wiki page creation, I can get started. I've only edited 1 or 2 wiki pages in my life. Immanuel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
Apologies for top posting. Marc is right. Immanuel has the lead on this but we will all contribute. In the end it should ideally become a nice looking page on our website, nof just a wiki page. Thanks Immanuel! Charles. Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit : Hi Italo and Immanuel, Le 2012-12-29 16:49, Italo Vignoli a écrit : Sorry for top posting, but I think that the idea of creating a wiki page where we can brainstorm about the selling points for Windows (as Microsoft document is focused on Windows, which is their cash cow) is very good. All the points that have been raised so far are extremely good, and I think that we should pick them and paste in a starting document. I am currently working at the final version of the migration and training protocol for certification, and I do not have the time for creating this wiki page for a few days. Anyone could create the page though, in the Marketing area of TDF wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing I would call the page Selling Point vs MS Office, because this is the summary of the contents. Marc can definitely help in creating the page, if someone has problems with the wiki. I am definitely interested in helping with the contents, once I will have finished working on the certification protocols. I think Immanuel has offered to lead on this. I can help with setting up the page. I like the good arguments on this thread. We have to make sure that we are as factual as possible. MS will capitalize on any claims that we make that are not factual, so we have to watch carefully over our claims. Immanuel, let me know if you need any help with the wiki page. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Envoyé de mon téléphone avec Kaiten Mail. Excusez la brièveté. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
Go ahead. If my memory serves me right there was an OpenErp booth at the last FOSDEM. I'll go talk to them then. Best, Charles. Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com a écrit : There was an OpenERP meetup in Montreal recently. I can get in touch with the local people here. Immanuel On Dec 29, 2012 5:12 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Anybody knows someone at openerp? Otherwise I'l lcontact them. Best, Charles. Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com a écrit : Sorry for top posting, but I think that the idea of creating a wiki page where we can brainstorm about the selling points for Windows (as Microsoft document is focused on Windows, which is their cash cow) is very good. All the points that have been raised so far are extremely good, and I think that we should pick them and paste in a starting document. I am currently working at the final version of the migration and training protocol for certification, and I do not have the time for creating this wiki page for a few days. Anyone could create the page though, in the Marketing area of TDF wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing I would call the page Selling Point vs MS Office, because this is the summary of the contents. Marc can definitely help in creating the page, if someone has problems with the wiki. I am definitely interested in helping with the contents, once I will have finished working on the certification protocols. On 12/29/12 10:07 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 12/29/2012 01:12 PM, Immanuel Giulea wrote: Well to be fair, I raised three points that seemed to me were the arguments of MS feature-wise. Other arguments are listed, and my suggestion was to create a new wiki page where we could compare (side-by-side) LO and MSO. Summary of arguments from MS against LO *Arguments about $$* * Total costs: Business impact; like software issues, integration, incompatibility, run-time errors, downtime, unreliable support and security vulnerability. Unreliable support? MS normally offers very limited direct user support - 1 or 2 incidents max if I remember correctly. Most user support will be from a help desk (internal or external). If it is from MS it is via separate contract or additional costs to the licensing agreement. Security is a joke because MS is notorious for shipping insecure products. Run-time errors? What about BSOD for Windows? Integration and incompatibility are very nebulous - do they mean file formats or being able to access the program from another? The first is really MSO not following standards and the later is a programming issue. * Total benefit: Such as reliable supports, updates, accessibility, and security. * Integration cost: The cost associated when you decide to use a different software platform. Different software platform - do they mean OS? If so, LO does this better even if the OS/distro is not officially support because the source code is available and can be compiled by someone for a very specific platform. With MSO, if a version is not provide you have no options (Linux version available). * Management: Can it be easily managed? Large companies tend to have this issue because they don't have a unified system. This is truly a management problem, is the management competent? * Deployment costs: Can it handle corporate size business productivity? In addition to the compromise or extra benefits of software alternatives. Software suitability should be determined for each case. There is no blanket answer for this. MS is implying that MSO is the only answer for businesses when in fact it is often not. Often the issue is that a company has an installed base of VB macros, etc for MSO that would need porting to LO * OpenOffice/LibreOffice does not provide the same depth of functionality as Microsoft Office as a result do not meet the needs of some end users. This will force your organization to manage multiple software suites potentially increasing IT costs. No software meets the needs of all users because all are design/feature compromises. * When running a mixed software environment you are also running the risk of interoperability issues which could further increase IT and helpdesk costs, inhibit productivity, and generate end users frustration. Most companies standardize on the software tools as much as possible to reduce these costs. However no single program/suite will cover all user needs so to some degree there will be a mixed software environment. * Additional factors that could create higher costs include integration with your existing systems and applications like ERP and content management systems and software updates. This is more of issue with the ERP and CMS software not LO per se. They
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
About Microsoft and Libreoffice I had seen a document (presented in a conference of TDF) with title: Dirty tactics against LibreOffice in public administration, and how to overcome them - Otto Kekäläinen Free Software Foundation Europe – FSFE.org with many considerations to take into account (for those who don't know them). It should be still available somewhere. However eventually someone can talk about advanced required new features. From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice? Go ahead. If my memory serves me right there was an OpenErp booth at the last FOSDEM. I'll go talk to them then. Best, Charles. Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com a écrit : There was an OpenERP meetup in Montreal recently. I can get in touch with the local people here. Immanuel On Dec 29, 2012 5:12 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Anybody knows someone at openerp? Otherwise I'l lcontact them. Best, Charles. Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com a écrit : Sorry for top posting, but I think that the idea of creating a wiki page where we can brainstorm about the selling points for Windows (as Microsoft document is focused on Windows, which is their cash cow) is very good. All the points that have been raised so far are extremely good, and I think that we should pick them and paste in a starting document. I am currently working at the final version of the migration and training protocol for certification, and I do not have the time for creating this wiki page for a few days. Anyone could create the page though, in the Marketing area of TDF wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing I would call the page Selling Point vs MS Office, because this is the summary of the contents. Marc can definitely help in creating the page, if someone has problems with the wiki. I am definitely interested in helping with the contents, once I will have finished working on the certification protocols. On 12/29/12 10:07 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 12/29/2012 01:12 PM, Immanuel Giulea wrote: Well to be fair, I raised three points that seemed to me were the arguments of MS feature-wise. Other arguments are listed, and my suggestion was to create a new wiki page where we could compare (side-by-side) LO and MSO. Summary of arguments from MS against LO *Arguments about $$* * Total costs: Business impact; like software issues, integration, incompatibility, run-time errors, downtime, unreliable support and security vulnerability. Unreliable support? MS normally offers very limited direct user support - 1 or 2 incidents max if I remember correctly. Most user support will be from a help desk (internal or external). If it is from MS it is via separate contract or additional costs to the licensing agreement. Security is a joke because MS is notorious for shipping insecure products. Run-time errors? What about BSOD for Windows? Integration and incompatibility are very nebulous - do they mean file formats or being able to access the program from another? The first is really MSO not following standards and the later is a programming issue. * Total benefit: Such as reliable supports, updates, accessibility, and security. * Integration cost: The cost associated when you decide to use a different software platform. Different software platform - do they mean OS? If so, LO does this better even if the OS/distro is not officially support because the source code is available and can be compiled by someone for a very specific platform. With MSO, if a version is not provide you have no options (Linux version available). * Management: Can it be easily managed? Large companies tend to have this issue because they don't have a unified system. This is truly a management problem, is the management competent? * Deployment costs: Can it handle corporate size business productivity? In addition to the compromise or extra benefits of software alternatives. Software suitability should be determined for each case. There is no blanket answer for this. MS is implying that MSO is the only answer for businesses when in fact it is often not. Often the issue is that a company has an installed base of VB macros, etc for MSO that would need porting to LO * OpenOffice/LibreOffice does not provide the same depth of functionality as Microsoft Office as a result do not meet the needs of some end users. This will force your organization to manage multiple software suites potentially increasing IT costs. No software meets the needs of all users because
[libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Call Doodle January
Hello, This call will be primarily about the 4.0 release and our team activities development. Times are expressed in CET (that is, Berlin, Paris, Rome time): http://doodle.com/rxen66dq79m35tw4 Please put your name and choose what day and time would fit the best. Best Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [tdf-discuss] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
I figured out how to create pages, so I started by creating: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Selling_points and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Selling_points_MSO an hour later, I also found: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office Should the Feature Comparison be moved to marketing or if left alone, referred to from the marketing materials? On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com wrote: The documentation linked below is from version 6.1 and included integration with OpenOffice only. We are assuming that LibreOffice would handle it the same. OpenERP released version 7 not long ago, and it would be better to confirm integration, and for them to update their docs. So far, I couldn't find the v7 docs. And the release notes only mention Google Docs in general without saying if text documents in .ODT are handled the same as .DOC format. Is there a section in the LO docs that integration with OpenERP can be addressed? Immanuel On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Boudi van Vlijmen bo...@vanvlijmen.nlwrote: OpenERP integrates best with LibreOffice and OpenOffice ( http://doc.openerp.com/v6.1/book/8/8_20_Config/8_20_Config_reports.html) and not with MS-Word. (more cost effective than other business solutions) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Mapping the community
Hello, As you will recall the Marketing project's mission is to act as an information broker inside the LibreOffice project, as well as from inside it to the outside. Let's start with a fundamental block of this role then: we should map our community. What does this mean? It means to draw both the structure and the workflows of our community, from one end of the project to the other. The end result can be anything from a chart to a logical diagram, I think only text might be too dry and complex but suggestions are welcome. Any takers ? Thanks, Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [tdf-discuss] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
Immanuel, Just leave the feature comparison page where it is; perhaps you could focus on a more synthetic document, and one that takes into account broader points (not just feature by feature)? Thanks, Charles. Le 30.12.2012 17:51, Immanuel Giulea a écrit : I figured out how to create pages, so I started by creating: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Selling_points and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Selling_points_MSO an hour later, I also found: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office Should the Feature Comparison be moved to marketing or if left alone, referred to from the marketing materials? On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com wrote: The documentation linked below is from version 6.1 and included integration with OpenOffice only. We are assuming that LibreOffice would handle it the same. OpenERP released version 7 not long ago, and it would be better to confirm integration, and for them to update their docs. So far, I couldn't find the v7 docs. And the release notes only mention Google Docs in general without saying if text documents in .ODT are handled the same as .DOC format. Is there a section in the LO docs that integration with OpenERP can be addressed? Immanuel On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Boudi van Vlijmen bo...@vanvlijmen.nlwrote: OpenERP integrates best with LibreOffice and OpenOffice ( http://doc.openerp.com/v6.1/book/8/8_20_Config/8_20_Config_reports.html) and not with MS-Word. (more cost effective than other business solutions) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Mapping the community
Hi Charles, all On 30/12/2012 17:56, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello, As you will recall the Marketing project's mission is to act as an information broker inside the LibreOffice project, as well as from inside it to the outside. Let's start with a fundamental block of this role then: we should map our community. What does this mean? It means to draw both the structure and the workflows of our community, from one end of the project to the other. The end result can be anything from a chart to a logical diagram, I think only text might be too dry and complex but suggestions are welcome. Any takers ? I usually use a mindmap for that, but it's not very sexy on a marketing point of view :) Anyway, I think that my knowledge of the community and its workflow/interaction can help here, so don't hesitate to count me in. Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Japanese page on FB
Hi all, Just to let you know about the Japanese page on FB here : https://www.facebook.com/LibreofficeStudyJapan From my (poor) Japanese understanding, it's about meetings on LibreOffice study currently in Kanto, Kansai and Kyushu. Anybody from the Japanese group to talk a bit more about it? Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Japanese page on FB
Hi Sophie, all, Thanks for comment to Japanese community work :) Just to let you know about the Japanese page on FB here : https://www.facebook.com/LibreofficeStudyJapan From my (poor) Japanese understanding, it's about meetings on LibreOffice study currently in Kanto, Kansai and Kyushu. Anybody from the Japanese group to talk a bit more about it? Yes, your understanding is perfect! This FB group is META group to discuss how we can start, continue or manage the LibreOffice offline meetings in each places. It's very young, limited target group, but I hope it helps people who want to do something about LibreOffice meetings in Japan. And we have another group LibreOffice (日本語) : https://www.facebook.com/LibreOfficeJa Its more famous, widely used FB group in Japan. We use the group to share the news, topics or something interest about LibreOffice in Japanese. currently 184 ppl likes it. To be honest, our core community members mostly likes ML or Twitter than FB, but we know FB is powerful tool to reach many casual (non-geek) users that's why we care the group. Thanks again, -- Naruhiko Ogasawara (naru...@gmail.com) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Japanese page on FB
Hi Naruhiko, On 30/12/2012 19:07, Naruhiko Ogasawara wrote: Hi Sophie, all, Thanks for comment to Japanese community work :) You're welcome :) I know your group is doing a lot of marketing and meetings, it's really great to see how you are active. Just to let you know about the Japanese page on FB here : https://www.facebook.com/LibreofficeStudyJapan From my (poor) Japanese understanding, it's about meetings on LibreOffice study currently in Kanto, Kansai and Kyushu. Anybody from the Japanese group to talk a bit more about it? Yes, your understanding is perfect! Thanks a lot :) This FB group is META group to discuss how we can start, continue or manage the LibreOffice offline meetings in each places. It's very young, limited target group, but I hope it helps people who want to do something about LibreOffice meetings in Japan. I'm sure it will, it's a very good idea. And we have another group LibreOffice (日本語) : https://www.facebook.com/LibreOfficeJa Its more famous, widely used FB group in Japan. We use the group to share the news, topics or something interest about LibreOffice in Japanese. currently 184 ppl likes it. well 185 now ;) To be honest, our core community members mostly likes ML or Twitter than FB, but we know FB is powerful tool to reach many casual (non-geek) users that's why we care the group. And you're right, any media that can help us to gather people is welcome. But the Japanese group is far from the French one for example, I didn't meet enough people to open a FB page, or a G+ or even a twitter account. Naruhiko, don't hesitate to report here what you're are doing, your initiatives or anything you're putting in place. It's very interesting for all of us and help us to learn how to put the same things in place in our own language. Thanks again, Thanks to you and your community for the great investment in LibreOffice. Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [tdf-discuss] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
I'll check it out with my OpenERP network. Met vriendelijke groet, Kind regards, Boudi van Vlijmen http://www.vanvlijmen.nl *Open standards or Open Wallets that is the question!* http://forumstandaardisatie.nl/ Beleidsquote Rijksdiensten moeten vanaf april 2008 ODF ondersteunen. Mede-overheden en overige instellingen volgen uiterlijk december 2008. ODF = .odt voor tekst, .ods voor spreadsheets, .odp voor presentaties http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.comwrote: The documentation linked below is from version 6.1 and included integration with OpenOffice only. We are assuming that LibreOffice would handle it the same. OpenERP released version 7 not long ago, and it would be better to confirm integration, and for them to update their docs. So far, I couldn't find the v7 docs. And the release notes only mention Google Docs in general without saying if text documents in .ODT are handled the same as .DOC format. Is there a section in the LO docs that integration with OpenERP can be addressed? Immanuel On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Boudi van Vlijmen bo...@vanvlijmen.nlwrote: OpenERP integrates best with LibreOffice and OpenOffice ( http://doc.openerp.com/v6.1/book/8/8_20_Config/8_20_Config_reports.html) and not with MS-Word. (more cost effective than other business solutions) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
Charles-H. Schulz wrote (30-12-12 14:52) Go ahead. If my memory serves me right there was an OpenErp booth at the last FOSDEM. I'll go talk to them then. If it may be necessary later, I do have some contacts here in the Netherlands. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [tdf-discuss] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
Hi Immanuel, Thanks for your initiative and input for this! Immanuel Giulea wrote (29-12-12 22:04) What are the plans on CIMS for LO 4.0 ? https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0#Core I've some documentation from some years back. Will try next weeks (overloaded, sorry) to see what is up to date and then send it here. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
I asked one of the team members on the Montreal committee to make introductions to Fabien Pinckaers, CEO at OpenERP. I also contacted two other OpenERP providers in Montreal to get feedback about integration. There are four in total. Two members on the Montreal committee are from the fourth one, and I'll touch base with them in the New Year. Cor, if you know him already, maybe you can approach him as well. It can't hurt to approach him from two people. On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Charles-H. Schulz wrote (30-12-12 14:52) Go ahead. If my memory serves me right there was an OpenErp booth at the last FOSDEM. I'll go talk to them then. If it may be necessary later, I do have some contacts here in the Netherlands. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+help@global.** libreoffice.org marketing%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/**marketing/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [tdf-discuss] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
From the 4.0 Release Notes, I understand that LO is aiming to compatible with CIMS protocol. I'll try to take a deeper look at this. Don't know enough about the CIMS protocol right now. On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Hi Immanuel, Thanks for your initiative and input for this! Immanuel Giulea wrote (29-12-12 22:04) What are the plans on CIMS for LO 4.0 ? https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**ReleaseNotes/4.0#Corehttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0#Core I've some documentation from some years back. Will try next weeks (overloaded, sorry) to see what is up to date and then send it here. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Silent Updates
Florian Monfort wrote (29-12-12 11:18) I think in this case you... Think too much haha. Pls don't write too much to... Let's describe the average user here and think about it: - When the average user downloads, he just ... Downloads... Mostly because it's free and he needs an Office Suite ASAP. If there is the possibility to make sure that the average user get's an automatic update, I have no objection. Just remains to be done: a. make it technically possible; b. make sure that power users and companies are not hindered; AD a - is not up to us... AD b - could prolly simply be done by asking a question after installation: do you want new stable versions being installed automatically or such. And yes, I agree that for many users it would be fine. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Happy New Year and a git from Brazilian LibreOffice Community
Dear Eliane, Eliane Domingos de Sousa wrote (29-12-12 17:12) I have no enough words to wish you all a wonderful and spectacular 2013. Thanks for your good wishes. I wish you and all friends and members in you Brazilian community the same, inspiration for and success in 2013. Your graphic contributions are nice and often inspiring :-) Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Google AdWords
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote (29-12-12 12:09) I've been playing with it a bit, and set up the following ads for testing: LibreOffice needs help -- Your donation helps making a better product. donate.libreoffice.org [...] This is just a first test-drive to see if everything is working as expected. Early next year, I'd like to work with all of you together on crafting our ads. It might help a lot with marketing our 4.0 release, our fundraising and other acitivies. Thanks for these initial tests. It's good to learn by experience (is what I learned from experience ;-) ). I suppose we can have various campaigns at the same time, so that we can have a variety of adds, linked with different searches? Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Event Calendar
On 12/30/12 2:42 PM, Immanuel Giulea wrote: p.s. I am not on the marketing team, how do I join? You have already joined: this is a meritocracy, and team members are those who help. We do not have a formal team, alhtough there are some recognized members active for a longer time. Marc is one of our heros, and is based in Canada. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
Hi Immanuel, Le 2012-12-30 08:44, Immanuel Giulea a écrit : Hi Marc and all, On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: I think Immanuel has offered to lead on this. I can help with setting up the page. I like the good arguments on this thread. We have to make sure that we are as factual as possible. MS will capitalize on any claims that we make that are not factual, so we have to watch carefully over our claims. Immanuel, let me know if you need any help with the wiki page. Cheers, Marc I am happy to help in any way I can. If you could be kind enough to run me through the 101 of wiki page creation, I can get started. I've only edited 1 or 2 wiki pages in my life. Immanuel I can see you already have an account and started the page[1]. You can find most frequently used types of wiki markup on the wikimedia site and from there, there are links on the bottom of that page with more markup help pages.[2] To begin with, I would type in the information/data and then format/beautify the page once all or most of the information is on the page. I also often cruise the wiki to see pages that have been formatted a particular way that I like and then view the markup text to see if I could adapt the text to the page(s) I am working on. Cheers, Marc [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Selling_points_MSO [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Japanese page on FB
Hi Naruhiko, Le 2012-12-30 13:23, Sophie Gautier a écrit : Hi Naruhiko, Naruhiko, don't hesitate to report here what you're are doing, your initiatives or anything you're putting in place. It's very interesting for all of us and help us to learn how to put the same things in place in our own language. Thanks again, Thanks to you and your community for the great investment in LibreOffice. Kind regards Sophie Just to add to this, if there are any events happening in JA, leave a note here on the marketing list and we will add them to our Events Calendar (website and wiki). This will give you more exposure for your group.[1] Cheers, Marc [1] http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/libreoffice-international-events-calendar/ -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Event Calendar
Hi Immanuel, Le 2012-12-30 08:42, Immanuel Giulea a écrit : Hi Marc, On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: The admins to the calendar are both Florian and myself. It would be great if there were just one more volunteer to help out with the calendar. There is very little work to do for it ... probably takes up no more than 1hr per month of work -- maybe less. You can count me as the extra volunteer :) Immanuel p.s. I am not on the marketing team, how do I join? You will need a GMail account. Just send me your GMail account off-list and I will make you admin. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted