Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Indian academic institutions forced to use MS Office
On 28 April 2013 00:24, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/25/2013 10:15 PM, Marc Paré wrote: If we are to expound the values of LibreOffice in the educational sphere we need to list those values that really count. We already know of the obvious ones of file compatibility etc., but we need to work on the assets that really count to educational organizations. Hi Marc, it looks like the situation is different, at least by continent. In Europe, the decision is 99% political, and 1% based on every other issue. It's more complex. It is different in different European countries. Some have more central political control than others. eg in Germany education is by the sixteen Länder in England individual schools have local management. The details are even different in Scotland and Wales. This is why it would make sense to find the country/region most open to LO take up in its schools and put the effort into one place and show how it works. Then show how it can be replicated and the unique selling points (USPs). Target the easiest first, don't waste time and effort on ones that are going to be nearly impossible. The early adopters will make it easier for those to come on board later. Once you identify the easiest target put all effort into a strategy that will make it a no brainer for them to adopt. If you can do that you have a chance. This is true not only for the educational system but also for governments, and this is the reason why proprietary software vendors invest a huge amount of money on lobbying. On the other hand, every point you mention would definitely increase the competitive positioning of LibreOffice, so they are at least worth some effort, with the exception of the LTS release issue, as our time based release schedule has been - and continues to be - instrumental in attracting new developers (which is one of the most important reasons of our success so far). -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications Headline points in the 2014 and 2015 school league tables www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] OT: Calling for colaborators for the next edition of Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine
Dear Community, The next edition of LibreOffice Magazine will be released in June/2013. Anyone interested in writing about topics LibreOffice, ODF or issues related to open source software, send your text until May 27, 2013 to the e-mail reda...@libreoffice.org, including a resume and photo of the author. We'll accept only text in English. Best -- Eliane Domingos de Sousa Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil Liberte-se, para editar textos, planilhas e apresentações use http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/ é totalmente de graça. Experimente o sistema de perguntas e respostas da Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil:http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Indian academic institutions forced to use MS Office
Le 27/04/13 07:24 PM, Italo Vignoli a écrit : On 04/25/2013 10:15 PM, Marc Paré wrote: If we are to expound the values of LibreOffice in the educational sphere we need to list those values that really count. We already know of the obvious ones of file compatibility etc., but we need to work on the assets that really count to educational organizations. Hi Marc, it looks like the situation is different, at least by continent. In Europe, the decision is 99% political, and 1% based on every other issue. This is true not only for the educational system but also for governments, and this is the reason why proprietary software vendors invest a huge amount of money on lobbying. On the other hand, every point you mention would definitely increase the competitive positioning of LibreOffice, so they are at least worth some effort, with the exception of the LTS release issue, as our time based release schedule has been - and continues to be - instrumental in attracting new developers (which is one of the most important reasons of our success so far). It seems to me that there seems to be a flaw in the ideology behind the project. There seems to be a want by some devs to keep the project on a time release schedule, which by and large is great in attracting devs, but, also a group of devs who are hoping that the distro will translate into income from the accreditation programme. Where I believe the whole project is disjointed is that without an LTS, the TDF/LibreOffice project cuts itself out of the large institutional/organizational market. I doubt very much that a large institution wishing to save money on licensing fees would be very willing to spend the savings on devs trying to keep a version of LibreOffice up and working from one budget period to the next reasonable budget term. To me, it would make much more sense to create an LTS version with our group of devs working at keeping it as current and solid for the period of the LTS term and this would allow the possibility of acceptance of LibreOffice by more organizations, thereby gaining larger income possibilities for a larger base of our (soon-to-be) accredited devs. Otherwise, we leave the door open to a larger institution who could accreditate its own devs and then fork its own version of LTS LibreOffice. I am not disputing the fact that it is political etc. Just pointing out that in the past, OpenOffice's slow/non-adoption into larger organizations was perhaps due to a flaw in our marketing angle and that perhaps a different approach may give us a better result. If it did not work before, well, it still won't work now. There is something in our approach that needs to be addressed and changed. Our present approach is well suited for LibreOffice adoption by the small office, home use where the need for an accredited dev is minimal if not zero. Larger organizations will just look at the fast-paced development, often-released versions which just seems to scream more money spent of development and keeping up to date of the software on their part if they were to adopt it. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
