[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Extensions-Site: Renovation
Hello, first sorry for crossposting, but I want to reach as many project members as possible. The further discussion should take place at the website-list. The LibreOffice extensions website is currently running on Plone with an add-on called Plone Software Center. There were a discussion to renovate the extensions site some weeks ago. I started my work on new content types in the mean time. I created this new types in a new add-on for Plone that is based on Dexterity content types. This types are more future-proof because Dexterity creates smaller files, less overhead and will be the future of Plone. I created the following hierarchical structure of content types (current naming): * ExtCenter * ExtProject * ExtReleasesSection * ExtRelease * Downloadablefile The first four types are of the container class. The general configuration is done in the ExtCenter (e.g. LibreOffice versions, platforms etc.). Independent from the CMS, that we use for the reimplementation/renovation I would like to discuss with you the structure of the new extensions site, the fields that are displayed in the different pages (e.g. a project page, a release page, a downloadable file page) and the information (fields) we would like to fill in the contributors. I published already two screenshots of the new types on my blog (http://amantke.de/blog/2014/02/libreoffice-extensions-repository-draft-of-new-views-part-1/). They are pure Plone default layout. If we choose to go further with Plone a new layout will be added once the content add-on is finished. But I would like to discuss the structure of the new extensions site and the information (fields) - in the edit-form and in the public page of each content type on the website-list. My current work is only a first draft. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Who on Earth is the LibO installation target?
Hi :) I agree that quite a few things could be made much easier for corporate users. However, I'm a bit confused by the "No Stylist, no Navigator, missing settings.". Do you mean those things are not open by default? They seem to be there for me after doing an install but just not open and ready to use. I'm not sure if someone from documentation is also working on the types of things you are writing. Even if they are there is a good chance they have stalled and might appreciate someone else taking over what they have done so far and that might help give you some other ideas or confirm some of the ones you had already. Regards from Tom :) On 8 February 2014 14:30, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: > Hi, > > This has been posted as a contribution to another thread here. I feel > this is very important and should be discussed in a separate thread. So, > here we go. > > > *Who* is the LibreOffice installation target? > > -- Business and Corporate users? > > Why, then, is the tool un-finished when the installation is over? No > Stylist, no Navigator, missing settings. Worse, all these are hidden. If > no-one in the company IT dept knows how much efficiency can be pulled > from LibO, these gems stay hidden. This explains why thousands of users > are indeed struggling against the tool while LibO is designed to help them. > That's a real, real, shame. On a side note, this doesn't help getting > market shares from these targets. From some pov the current office > suites (unfortunately LibO is not alone), make me feel they are toys > until someone takes some time to configure them before handling them to > their in-house users. And I can tell you many IT depts won't ever change > one single bit after LibO has been installed: the user is left alone. > > -- John Doe? > > Ok, fine with me. But then, please, give the businesses and corporate > users a tool, a preset, something, anything to help them setting LibO to > reach the efficiency their users need everyday. > > > Currently the answer to the question is John Doe. Corporate users are > left in a no man's land where they have to deal with problems by > themselves with no help from any in-house dept. As a result, users just > struggle with the office software to have their documents done. The IT > dept generally have no clue to what's in a bird: they just install the > software. The bosses never mind: they take decisions but won't ever use > the tools. In the Office suite world, efficiency is just a motto. > > > > Don't you think our suite of predilection is worth better in corporate > environments? Design and Marketing, any idea? > > IMO, LibO could help in the following ways: > -- produce a document explaining what settings are better in a corporate > environment (I'm currently working on that); > -- having a document showing in details how to change the command-line > installation settings to fit corporate needs (this might already exist > but I failed to find it) > -- have a specific installation tool that would give a ready-for-use > suite right after intall. > > all this is *very* important in order to LibreOffice to make its way in > businesses and corporate environments. Failing to do so is shooting > oneself in the foot. > -- > Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Who on Earth is the LibO installation target?
Hello Tom, Le 08/02/2014 21:59, Tom Davies a écrit : > > However, I'm a bit confused by the "No Stylist, no Navigator, missing > settings.". Do you mean those things are not open by default? They > seem to be there for me after doing an install but just not open and > ready to use. In my FR installs the Stylist and the Navigator are installed but not displayed. I know very few users who actually know these tools exist and what they are meant for, not telling about displaying or using them :( As for the default settings, I have been wondering since the very first times of OOo 1.1.1 why the French apostrophe is not setup (the setting is available) while the French quote is. As a consequence most French users use the wrong character and create faulty documents. The automatic setting would be s easy to add... Other lacking settings: display non-printing chars, activate the backup copy, prefer the richer LibO dialogs, adjust zoom settings. In Writer: add an Insert from file toolbutton, set the Table toolbar position non-floating. In Draw: add a Fontwork toolbutton (the Fontwork toolbar can't do what this button does; or did I miss smthg?) Optionally, some extensions can really help, like AltSearch. > > > I'm not sure if someone from documentation is also working on the > types of things you are writing. Even if they are there is a good > chance they have stalled and might appreciate someone else taking over > what they have done so far and that might help give you some other > ideas or confirm some of the ones you had already. > Well, what I'm writing is about FR installs, though some common denominator could be found between languages (Stylist and Navigator come to mind). -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
