Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Crowdfunding campaign for interoperability with Microsoft® Office
HI Raffaele Am 10.02.21 um 18:33 schrieb Raffaele Mancuso: (1) I don't agree that the increase in file size by embedding fonts would be a problem. Nowadays kids download 30 GB videogames over the internet. Besides the arguments brought up there is one further: The main problem afaik is the mirror network which we use to distribute the binaries. Those who operate it freely are rather constraining in regard of disk space and especially bandwith. And LO by design is rather lavish on this, so we are rather reserved in reclaiming even more capacities. For instance this is why the Mac version needs a separate download of your preferred language (if not English). -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Altmann -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Crowdfunding campaign for interoperability with Microsoft® Office
Hi All, Not to ruin the mood, but please consult a (or few) developers (like Justin). The whole interoperability thing is pretty quirky topic as the function set and/or ground design of LibreOffice being different. So interoperability always end in awful 'limitations' or needs massive amount of work. Anchors to character are converted. Text boxes changes to frames (or something else). Page breaks being paragraph setting in Writer and 'object' in Writer. Or the Highlighting/background color topic. Or the default font topic (save Calc file into xls & reopen... font changed). Or the styles system of LibreOffice not being compatible with Word [I think, not 100% sure] So kind of skeptical if what is 'desired' being even achievable. Or even there is any acceptance at all I did quite some reports on things being different in Writer compared to Word. Aside from incompatibility, you get , Writer isn't Word and isn't expected it to be. Nor is Writer a clone of Microsoft Office. So really get the desire, but kind of doubt if there is big desire/support. And next comes total sum needed to 'fix' it. I would imagine half a million euro not to be unrealistic; but well not a developer and not good at estimating.. so this likely gets 'correct'. Or people don't even dare put a budget on it. ICT projects & budget mostly tricky topic. But well, hoping Justin having some time to shed some light on the matter. Cheers, Telesto -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Crowdfunding campaign for interoperability with Microsoft(R) Office
Hi all, As a non expert but interested party I find this a very important conversation. I think compatibility wherever possible with Microsoft Office is critical for the long term success of LibreOffice. If I understand this discussion correctly it is about document transferability between Microsoft and non Microsoft platforms. I think it would be the perfect opportunity to bundle the metric compatible Microsoft 'C' fonts like Carlito with LibreOffice by default for all those people on non Microsoft platforms and have some logic in LibreOffice to map these to the metric compatible fonts. I appreciate the size concern as bloat is a very real issue. I suppose you need to prioritise what is important for the long term growth of the project. Can I just ask those people with more knowledge what type of additional size are we talking about to include these fonts and possible mappings? If under 5 Megabytes would that be acceptable? Is there less frequently used fonts that could be removed to facilitate this and keep the download size roughly the same? As someone who has to use multiple operating systems for work and different office software I find reproducibility critical to my workflow. This is why I believe that Microsoft Office compatibility in general should be a primary goal to strive for as many people feel that this is a detrimental issue for LibreOffice currently, however that is a different discussion for now. Thank you for your feedback. Regards, James On Sat, 13 Feb 2021, 14:43 Uwe Altmann, wrote: > HI Raffaele > > Am 10.02.21 um 18:33 schrieb Raffaele Mancuso: > > (1) I don't agree that the increase in file size by embedding fonts > would > > be a problem. Nowadays kids download 30 GB videogames over the internet. > > Besides the arguments brought up there is one further: > The main problem afaik is the mirror network which we use to distribute > the > binaries. Those who operate it freely are rather constraining in regard of > disk space and especially bandwith. And LO by design is rather lavish on > this, so we are rather reserved in reclaiming even more capacities. For > instance this is why the Mac version needs a separate download of your > preferred language (if not English). > > -- > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > Uwe Altmann > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
