[libreoffice-marketing] Thinking about the future

2020-11-22 Thread Boudi van vlijmen
Dear all,


Pleas find attached a document about possible future opportunities I see for 
LibreOffice.
Hopefully it contributes to our thinking.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] MARKETING PLAN: Some Proposals

2020-11-09 Thread Boudi van vlijmen
Hi All,


I suggest to change "LibreOffice Free Edition” into "LibreOffice Sponsored 
Edition”



Free is to much like cheap. While it is real quality from the community. But 
sponsored by the contributors.
It might make it feel more desirable than cheap free stuff. And keeps user 
aware that they could help by contributing a bit.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Van: Telesto 

Datum: 9 november 2020 om 19:19:27 CET
Aan: marketing@global.libreoffice.org

Onderwerp: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] MARKETING PLAN: Some Proposals



LibreOffice Tech Edition [Technology/Technical/ Technology Preview]
LibreOffice Free Edition
LibreOffice Engineering Edition
LibreOffice Frontrunner Edition


Basic also feels limited. Classic sounds old.
Community/Personal are not it
Rolling doesn't sound well (still think it should be mentioned 
somewhere; but not as edition phrase)


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About position of the edition text: title bar, about box, start center, 
artwork etc.
No strong opinion here; as long as they as long as it blends in. Nice 
font, font color etc.





Op 9-11-2020 om 16:38 schreef sophi:
> 
> 
> Hi Italo, all,
> Le 09/11/2020 à 16:04, Italo Vignoli a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> So far, I have not participated to the discussion, hoping that this
>> could help others in pushing forward their proposals. Unfortunately,
>> this has not happened, so I am trying to share some thoughts and
>> proposals for the following action item:
>> 
>> 
>> 1. Product Label for the community supported version provided by TDF
>> 
>> 
>> First of all, it should be clear that this label is not targeted to
>> community members, but to the outside world of LibreOffice users (so,
>> probably to 99.9% of all users). Rejecting a label because it is not
>> seen as appropriate for community members is not helping the decision,
>> because we need to improve the positioning for all those people who do
>> not contribute at all to the project (apart from donations, which are
>> not seen as contributions for this decision).
>> 
>> 
>> The unfortunate reality is that the majority of enterprises is using
>> LibreOffice for free - is their right, but they usually save a rather
>> substantial amount of money by replacing MS Office licenses with
>> LibreOffice - without giving back anything, while they should support
>> the project at least in the same proportion of individuals who donate
>> (because they recognize the value of the software).
>> 
>> 
>> So, we need to exert some moral suasion on enterprises by making it
>> clear - with a label - that the LibreOffice version they are using is
>> not targeted to enterprises, as it is not supported professionally, or
>> it is not packaged according to the needs of enterprises deploying
>> LibreOffice on a large number of PCs.
>> 
>> 
>> Proposals in line with the objective:
>> 
>> 
>> COMMUNITY: makes the Community happy, but does not communicate to users
>> the right message, as Community is the feature-limited version of open
>> core projects (best case, competent users or 1% of all users), or the
>> organization where you treat addictions (worst case, or 98.9% of all
>> users). IMHO not applicable.
>> 
>> 
>> PERSONAL: does not make the Community happy because Personal is not
>> interpreted in the right way by OSS advocates (Personal as in personal
>> computer or personal productivity), on the contrary is rather clear for
>> users outside the community ("I can use it for free on my PC"), and is
>> providing the right message to enterprises (by the way, a label will not
>> stop anyone from using LibreOffice for free on hundreds or thousands of
>> PCs, but will give us a reason for a strong message). IMHO the best.
>> 
>> 
>> ROLLING: Rolling is a techie term for OSS advocates, based on several
>> Linux distros, although not popular amongst users provides a feeling of
>> something which

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [tdf-discuss] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?

2012-12-30 Thread Boudi van Vlijmen
I'll check it out with my OpenERP network.

Met vriendelijke groet,
Kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen <http://www.vanvlijmen.nl>

*Open standards or Open Wallets that is the question!*
http://forumstandaardisatie.nl/
Beleidsquote "Rijksdiensten moeten vanaf april 2008 ODF ondersteunen.
Mede-overheden en overige instellingen volgen uiterlijk december 2008.
ODF = .odt voor tekst, .ods voor spreadsheets, .odp voor presentaties"
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument



On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Immanuel Giulea
wrote:

> The documentation linked below is from version 6.1 and included
> integration with OpenOffice only.
> We are assuming that LibreOffice would handle it the same.
> OpenERP released version 7 not long ago, and it would be better to confirm
> integration, and for them to update their docs.
> So far, I couldn't find the v7 docs. And the release notes only mention
> Google Docs in general without saying if text documents in .ODT are handled
> the same as .DOC format.
>
> Is there a section in the LO docs that integration with OpenERP can be
> addressed?
>
> Immanuel
>
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Boudi van Vlijmen wrote:
>
>> OpenERP integrates best with LibreOffice and OpenOffice (
>> http://doc.openerp.com/v6.1/book/8/8_20_Config/8_20_Config_reports.html)
>> and not with MS-Word. (more cost effective than other business solutions)
>
>
>

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [tdf-discuss] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?

2012-12-29 Thread Boudi van Vlijmen
Congratulations! The good news is: Microsoft takes the effort to write a
document against LO&OO! If there is no threath, there is no reason to do so!

   - OpenERP integrates best with LibreOffice and OpenOffice (
   http://doc.openerp.com/v6.1/book/8/8_20_Config/8_20_Config_reports.html)
   and not with MS-Word. (more cost effective than other business solutions)
   - Work tool aware organisations don't fall in the MS overtooling trap (a
   big issue for document management). Work files should be .odf and
   presentation and archiving files should be .pdf
   - MS - Office does not support all .odf 1.2 functionality (comments?)
   - Email clients for desktops will soon be outdated. Not for no reason
   Mozilla stoped with the Thunderbird development Calendering today is a
   typical cloud application.
  - By the way sending documents with email from LO works fine...
   - MS Outlook integration is based on legacy standards causing all kind
   of problems for receivers with no MS software (The .dat attachment
   problem)
   - Desktop calendaring (Outlook) will soon be outdated
   - Cloud colaberation tools like Google Drive work fine with OO and
   LO. Who needs colaboration tools outside the cloud?
   - Pivot tables work (different)
   - Last but not least LibreOffice features NO foot in the door file
   format trap! Also called vendor-lock.

So where is the argument?
LibreOffice;
Write is a perfect workdocument editing tool with great archive (pdf)
creation tool integrated,
Calc is a perfect spreadsheet tool with great archive (pdf) creation tool
integrated,
Impress is a perfect presentation creation tool with great archive (pdf)
creation tool integrated,
is a great platform for business administration automation with an
integrated IDE and a nice set of database tools included,

All for less than half the price! ;-)
And LibreOffice  Works on Windows and OSX for the same price.

In fact all the USPs for Word, Excel and Powerpoint disappear in a cloud of
dust.
MS clearly tries to sell outdated USPs as unique to the Late Majority. Time
for the Early Majority to switch! Time for LibreOffice!

Met vriendelijke groet,
Kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen <http://www.vanvlijmen.nl>

*Open standards or Open Wallets that is the question!*
http://forumstandaardisatie.nl/
Beleidsquote "Rijksdiensten moeten vanaf april 2008 ODF ondersteunen.
Mede-overheden en overige instellingen volgen uiterlijk december 2008.
ODF = .odt voor tekst, .ods voor spreadsheets, .odp voor presentaties"
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument



On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Immanuel Giulea
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Microsoft put out a three-page document that hits on some of the weaknesses
> of LO (and bundles LO with OOo):
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/D/0/D/D0DA0C4B-22DE-40C7-A84D-0C7E03347A9C/Considering-LibreOffice-and-OO-v2.pdf
>
> Is there some materials that can explain the strong points of LO and offer
> counter-arguments to what MS says ?
>
> Some of the key points would be:
> - lack of calendaring/email
> - collaboration tools
> - pivot tables
>
>
> Immanuel
>
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