[libreoffice-marketing] The Microsoft dilemma

[Paolo Debortoli]

I ask often myself why public institutions don't use and supporto FOSS software 
as Amazon, Google and other big enterprises do. Here Is an answer:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=duaYLW7LQvg_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.marcosbox.org%2F_ve_path=Mjg2NjY=emb_logo

Paolo
-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Happy New Year

[Paolo Debortoli]

best wishes, everybody  everywhere  !!
 

On Monday, January 1, 2018 1:24 PM, Cor Nouws  wrote:
 

 best wishes for a year with lot's of people appreciating our events,
articles, social media posts for our projects!
With joy & growth in each ones personal life,

Cor

-- 
Cor Nouws
GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28  A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6
- vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org
- volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org
- The Document Foundation Member

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


   
-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] First steps guide for new Marketing Team contributors

[Paolo Debortoli]

Hi everybody!  Paolo from Italy, i work in a high school and am in contact with 
LibreItalia and a number of IT professionals (both from the public and the 
private sector).   Italo Vignoli and LibreItalia are making a very good job 
here and gaining successes (like the project LibreDifesa for the Italian army). 
 LO (and other free softwares) is also used here in public schools and offices 
of my region, but we have still a ratio of 50%.  My aim is mainly to provide 
info material, brochures and so on,  especially to teachers and students.

Paolo




On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 3:44 PM, Mike Saunders 
 wrote:
Hi everyone,

There's a lot of great content on our marketing wiki, but it can be a 
bit overwhelming for new contributors. So I've made a "first steps" 
guide here:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/First_Steps


-- 
Mike Saunders, Marketing & PR
The Document Foundation

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

[libreoffice-marketing] LO cited

[Paolo Debortoli]

http://opensource.com/life/13/8/how-create-ebook-open-source-way

LO cited in an article.  imho functions and formats used by professional users 
(such as latex and epub) will be important in the future and could be directly 
included.

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Engaging Users?

[Paolo Debortoli]

hi.  i had a similar idea time ago.  i suggested to insert an optional window 
in the installation  process or in the settings, something like  'want help?  
insert name and email to subscribe mailing list(s)  .   submit / skip / 
visit website'.   I don't think every user would join,  but that there is a 
number of users who would join if they would know.   maybe a mailing list just 
for announcements  (new releases, events, documentation, funding)  could be 
useful especially for system administrators  (my brother has libreoffice in his 
office, but a very dated version).  something similar could be used to ask for 
feedbacks and so on.




On Sunday, October 20, 2013 3:58 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 
Hi,

I wanted to discuss an idea that's been floating around for some time;
credits come to Ubuntu and Bjoern for having had something like this
since a few years already. In just  a few words, do you think we could
design a process (that would probably go through the website of course)
where we could enroll users (defined as people visiting libreoffice.org
to download LibreOffice) to join any team, such as marketing, QA, docs,
etc?

How  do you think this could work? Is it desirable?

Thanks,

-- 
Charles-H. Schulz 
Co-founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin
Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24.


-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Microsoft Office for Linux strong rumours and LibreOffice: What to fear about it?

[Paolo Debortoli]

Il 12/02/2013 16:20, timofonic timofonic ha scritto:

Hello.

As some of you probably know, there are rumours about Microsoft
porting Microsoft Office to Linux. While this may not happen, there's
the possibility this can someday happen.

What about if it happens? What are the advantages of LibreOffice vs
Microsoft Office? Despite being Free Software and at no cost (that's
relative, you would still require some customer support too), I wonder
about the rest of advantages LibreOffice have and if the weak points
are relevant to certain organizations (NGOs, companies, government
institutions...).

Regards.


http://www.datamation.com/applications/how-libreoffice-writer-tops-ms-word-12-features-1.html

there are some strong points and weak points...  costs of updates and 
interoperability  (using multiple formats on multiple platforms) are 
strong points, to say.


--
www.libreoffice.org


--
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Bounty Board

[Paolo Debortoli]

Il 19/01/2013 19:54, Dennis Roczek ha scritto:

Hello mailinglist!
this is my first here, so bear with me if I'm doing something wrong. I
was writing with Florian Effenberger and he wanted me to post here my idea.

I'm rather active at the English Wikipedia and they have there a so
called 'Bounty Board'. [1]

On that wikipage everybody is able to post his wish which article should
be improved to a certain
quality level or that an article is created for a reward. The rewards
look different. The most chosed rewards are:

* a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation (which is the foundation behind
Wikipedia),
* a 'donation' to the improver,
* an improvement to any other article (often bounded to a genre).


it's nice, yes.  some people have been talking until now about some 
ideas proposed such as a libreoffice 'brainstorming'  or  'easy hack'
(done on website or on google pages or facebbok), such as done by AOO or 
the ubuntu community. Many things are feasible; maybe the main problem 
is finding a number of people interested in.



I think this system would also work for LibreOffice. I know that at
least some users would pay money if a particular bug is resolved or any
wished improvements are made.


it's possible, yes, but I am not sure. for sure it would increase 
partecipation. rewards could be made in different ways (eg a prize for 
the most voted or innovative improvements).  another possible option 
could be something like (involving universities) giving students prizes 
for dissertations or thesis one the topics needed by the foundation 
(marketing subjects or technical solutions).



The solution to offer such 'bounties' at the English Wikipedia was
created by other English contributors, so the technical solution is
rather bad, but with a small bunch of PHP code this could be rather a
great board: All is need is a small table in a database.

Moreover I thought this could be added to as an extension to the bug
submission wizard which has nearly all relevant parts.

Any thoughts? I heard there were already two attempts (before LO
existed), but failed. I think we could do it better!

Regards,
Dennis Roczek

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bounty_board




--
www.libreoffice.org


--
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Bounty Board

[Paolo Debortoli]

to make connection to the community easier, as is done with mozilla 
firefox, an idea could be to insert some voices in the help menu on the 
window. at the moment at the moment there is one sending users to the 
bug reporting page, fine, but more voices to send users to forums and 
mailing lists (something like 'get help online' or 'contact the 
foundation') to have more feedbacks and give more help could be inserted.



Il 19/01/2013 20:56, Paolo Debortoli ha scritto:

Il 19/01/2013 19:54, Dennis Roczek ha scritto:

Hello mailinglist!
this is my first here, so bear with me if I'm doing something wrong. I
was writing with Florian Effenberger and he wanted me to post here my 
idea.


I'm rather active at the English Wikipedia and they have there a so
called 'Bounty Board'. [1]

On that wikipage everybody is able to post his wish which article should
be improved to a certain
quality level or that an article is created for a reward. The rewards
look different. The most chosed rewards are:

* a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation (which is the foundation behind
Wikipedia),
* a 'donation' to the improver,
* an improvement to any other article (often bounded to a genre).


it's nice, yes.  some people have been talking until now about some 
ideas proposed such as a libreoffice 'brainstorming'  or 'easy 
hack'(done on website or on google pages or facebbok), such as 
done by AOO or the ubuntu community. Many things are feasible; maybe 
the main problem is finding a number of people interested in.



I think this system would also work for LibreOffice. I know that at
least some users would pay money if a particular bug is resolved or any
wished improvements are made.


it's possible, yes, but I am not sure. for sure it would increase 
partecipation. rewards could be made in different ways (eg a prize for 
the most voted or innovative improvements).  another possible option 
could be something like (involving universities) giving students 
prizes for dissertations or thesis one the topics needed by the 
foundation (marketing subjects or technical solutions).



The solution to offer such 'bounties' at the English Wikipedia was
created by other English contributors, so the technical solution is
rather bad, but with a small bunch of PHP code this could be rather a
great board: All is need is a small table in a database.

Moreover I thought this could be added to as an extension to the bug
submission wizard which has nearly all relevant parts.

Any thoughts? I heard there were already two attempts (before LO
existed), but failed. I think we could do it better!

Regards,
Dennis Roczek

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bounty_board







--
www.libreoffice.org


--
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice vs. MS Office

[Paolo Debortoli]

 From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice vs. MS Office
 
On 01/12/2013 01:00 PM, Kannan Moudgalya wrote:
 Dear All,
 
 I would like to re-open the discussion on this topic, which was discussed a 
 couple of weeks back.
 
 I already mentioned in a previous mail that we offer LibreOffice workshops 
 for clerical and support staff of many organisations, such as government 
 offices and universities, free of cost.  What is interesting is that the 
 participants learn advanced features of the software, for example, track 
 changes and the like.  Most of them, however, are not aware of such advanced 
 techniques in MS Office.  The reason is that no one teaches these things on 
 MS Office - the training programme is possibly expensive or only limited 
 seats are available in a training programme.
 
 Thus, even if LibreOffice is less powerful (for argument sake), it is used 
 effectively - even the advanced features are known to the users.  In 
 comparsion, the MS Office is used less effectively, even if it is more 
 powerful, once again, for argument sake.  Thus, the LibreOffice users end up 
 being better users of the software, compared to the MS Office users.
 
 The above observation got corroborated in a blender workshop that we 
 organised.  Here is a feedback from an official of the organisation, where we 
 conducted this workshop.
 
 /The workshop as informed to you earlier over phone was really successful. 
 By the end of four days the participants were very happy and confident in 
 developing 3D animation. Earlier they were using licensed products which did 
 not actually fulfill our requirements of 3 D animation. Added to that they 
 were also introduced to interactive game development using Blender. In the 
 four days they were introduced to modeling, lighting, 3D Animation and 
 interactive games. The best part was the spoken tutorials helped them get 
 ready with the installation, interface and utilities of Blender before  the 
 physical workshop in the IGNOU campus. Spoken tutorials were really useful as 
 the participants could use them time and again as reference material even 
 when the physical workshop was on. We are very happy with the workshop and 
 looking forward to an advanced level workshop.
 
 /Kannan
 
 
 

I know there was a link about spoken tutorial for India. It was an article 
link.

Yes having spoken word tutorials can be easier for people than printed text.  
Yes, we need more public workshops for the use [and marketing] of LibreOffice.  
If I did not have a communication issue brought about after 3 strokes, I 
would do one locally in my library, or even in a Adult Education center.

It would be great if some professional quality presentation is created for 
teaching LO to users.  That that presentation and display it in a room of users 
via a projection monitor system.  Have handout material included.  Make it all 
on a DVD set of disks that can be downloaded.  I was think about having videos 
along with Impress presentations and have some working examples worked through 
showing the users how to do these things.  Make these free so local marketing 
people can present LO in a workshop.  I do not know how to do many things that 
are not basic or things I have never needed to do, but that does not mean I 
would not be willing to do a workshop if someone created the materials for me 
that would show the workshop how to do these things.

MS Office is more powerful than LibreOffice for one main reason, it is bloated 
with so many features that it takes in-depth guides to know they even exist.  
There has been figures like less that 1% of 1% of the business users either 
know these features or know how to use them.  Do you really need to do things 
like edit a spreadsheet table inside a Word document?  Do you really need to do 
things in LibreOffice that are used by 1 out of 1,000,000 business users? Sure 
some feature are going to be used, but using a package like Word or Writer for 
desktop publishing of a 100+ page magazine with all of the fancy text and image 
options you can think of, might not be very useful to the users we are 
targeting LO towards.  Sure, making newsletters and other multi-column 
text/image documents under 20 pages or so is useful, but more than that may not 
be for our market.  I would not even want to try it with Word or LO, but I know 
there are those that do use a
 word processor for very large desktop publishing needs.  Doable but not 
recommended.

The key is ease of use for the standard user not the 1 in 100,000 user.  The 
key is not adding so many features that it takes 1 to 5 GB of disk space to 
install the package and 2 or 3 minutes to load up to the point where you then 
can type or edit the document.  I still work on/with desktops and laptops that 
take 3+ minutes to 

[libreoffice-marketing] suggestions

[Paolo Debortoli]

openoffice's perspective:    1263 people have submitted 924 ideas and cast 
13852 votes but what do you think ?  please sign in to vote on ideas and 
suggest your own. on:    
http://www.slideshare.net/pescetti/aceu-2012openofficeatapache

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Idea_Handling

At the moment, feature enhancements and improvements to OpenOffice.org are 
based on the following sources: 
* ideas by the OpenOffice.org community 
* feedback by the customers of companies which participate in the 
OpenOffice.org development 
* competitive analysis of other software applications 

https://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=2011d5t=2011d5.4c
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49t=10451


ideas and feedbacks are collected in different places and ways.  facebook could 
be an alternative.

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

[libreoffice-marketing] how does a software lobby work

[Paolo Debortoli]

it is the cse for many industries / big companies.  unfair weapons,  non 
technical matters which influence the market...  people should know:


http://techrights.org/2011/02/01/francois-fillon-and-microsoft/

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

[libreoffice-marketing] ubuntu libreoffice bugs tracking

[Paolo Debortoli]

I don't know wether such bugs are already known or should be connected to LO 
bugzilla or so..


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice
-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?

[Paolo Debortoli]

About Microsoft and Libreoffice I had seen a document  (presented in a 
conference of TDF)  with title:   Dirty tactics against LibreOffice in public 
administration, and how to overcome them  -  Otto Kekäläinen   Free Software 
Foundation Europe – FSFE.org  with many considerations to take into account 
(for those who don't know them).  It should be still available somewhere.

However eventually someone can talk about advanced required new features.




 From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing material 
suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
 
Go ahead. If my memory serves me right there was an OpenErp booth at the last 
FOSDEM. I'll go talk to them then.

Best,

Charles.


Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com a écrit :

There was an OpenERP meetup in Montreal recently. I can get in touch
with
the local people here.

Immanuel
On Dec 29, 2012 5:12 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Anybody knows someone at openerp? Otherwise I'l lcontact them.

 Best,
 Charles.


 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Sorry for top posting, but I think that the idea of creating a wiki
 page
 where we can brainstorm about the selling points for Windows (as
 Microsoft document is focused on Windows, which is their cash cow)
is
 very good. All the points that have been raised so far are extremely
 good, and I think that we should pick them and paste in a starting
 document.
 
 I am currently working at the final version of the migration and
 training protocol for certification, and I do not have the time for
 creating this wiki page for a few days. Anyone could create the page
 though, in the Marketing area of TDF wiki:
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing
 
 I would call the page Selling Point vs MS Office, because this is
the
 summary of the contents.
 
 Marc can definitely help in creating the page, if someone has
problems
 with the wiki.
 
 I am definitely interested in helping with the contents, once I will
 have finished working on the certification protocols.
 
 On 12/29/12 10:07 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
  On 12/29/2012 01:12 PM, Immanuel Giulea wrote:
  Well to be fair, I raised three points that seemed to me were the
  arguments of MS feature-wise.
 
  Other arguments are listed, and my suggestion was to create a new
 wiki
  page where we could compare (side-by-side) LO and MSO.
 
  Summary of arguments from MS against LO
 
  *Arguments about $$*
 
    * Total costs: Business impact; like software issues,
integration,
      incompatibility, run-time errors, downtime, unreliable
support
 and
      security vulnerability.
 
  Unreliable support? MS normally offers very limited direct user
 support
  - 1 or 2 incidents max if I remember correctly. Most user support
 will
  be from a help desk (internal or external). If it is from MS it is
 via
  separate contract or additional costs to the licensing agreement.
  Security is a joke because MS is notorious for shipping insecure
  products. Run-time errors? What about BSOD for Windows?
Integration
 and
  incompatibility are very nebulous - do they mean file formats or
 being
  able to access the program from another? The first is really MSO
not
  following standards and the later is a programming issue.
 
    * Total benefit: Such as reliable supports, updates,
 accessibility,
      and security.
 
    * Integration cost: The cost associated when you decide to use
a
      different software platform.
 
  Different software platform - do they mean OS? If so, LO does this
  better even if the OS/distro is not officially support because the
  source code is available and can be compiled by someone for a very
  specific platform. With MSO, if a version is not provide you have
no
  options (Linux version available).
 
    * Management: Can it be easily managed? Large companies tend to
 have
      this issue because they don't have a unified system.
 
  This is truly a management problem, is the management competent?
 
    * Deployment costs: Can it handle corporate size business
      productivity? In addition to the compromise or extra benefits
of
      software alternatives.
 
  Software suitability should be determined for each case. There is
no
  blanket answer for this. MS is implying that MSO is the only
answer
 for
  businesses when in fact it is often not. Often the issue is that a
  company has an installed base of VB macros, etc for MSO that would
 need
  porting to LO
 
    * OpenOffice/LibreOffice does not provide the same depth of
      functionality as Microsoft Office as a result do not meet the
      needs of some end users. This will force your organization to
      manage multiple software suites potentially increasing IT
costs.
 
  No software meets the needs of all users because 

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?

[Paolo Debortoli]

I think the matter is interesting.

In Monachium of Bayern (Germany) people said that calls to the help desk fell 
from about 70 to about 46  (per day or month, I don't remember exactly) when 
they removed proprietary software from their 15,000  desktops, fucking one of 
the main arguments of Microsoft.


Another interesting matter was told in Rovereto (Italy) when they adopted 
LibreOffice instead of Microsoft:  proprietary software provides for sure a 
higher quality, but do we really need all that quality? (and to pay for, I 
would add).  It happens always even with smartphones or so:  people buy things 
bigger than they need.

http://www.datamation.com/applications/how-libreoffice-writer-tops-ms-word-12-features-1.html


Microsoft reports some speech or comments from some experts / professionals, 
but the list of cases of succesful adoption of LibreOffice is much longer.

For sure, to say that Microsoft is a marketing champion enterprise.

I mostly hate 2 things of Microsoft (thinking of Office in particular).  first 
is the lock-in of platform, software and data:  no office for linux, no access 
to linux partitions and use of open data (if the docx format is open data I am 
mr Obama  - would write better in english).  Second:  they change slowly the 
data format every time they produce a new software version, giving consumers 
the wrong idea that every version is revolutionary and a must have (it means 
still that in offices, schools, public institutions people spend money for 
unneeded new software versions).  Where I work they have 300 desktops with 
different versions of microsoft office, with people complaining all the time 
that what works on a computer doesn't work on another.  I am trying to convince 
them to use free software to solve the problem...  i will talk them again after 
holidays





 From: Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com
To: Marketing marketing@global.libreoffice.org; market...@us.libreoffice.org; 
disc...@documentfoundation.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:30 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing material suggestion: Why LibreOffice?
 
Hello all,

Microsoft put out a three-page document that hits on some of the weaknesses
of LO (and bundles LO with OOo):
http://download.microsoft.com/download/D/0/D/D0DA0C4B-22DE-40C7-A84D-0C7E03347A9C/Considering-LibreOffice-and-OO-v2.pdf

Is there some materials that can explain the strong points of LO and offer
counter-arguments to what MS says ?

Some of the key points would be:
- lack of calendaring/email
- collaboration tools
- pivot tables


Immanuel

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

[libreoffice-marketing] istituto majorana add ons

[Paolo Debortoli]

the 'istituto majorana' is a high school as well as a milestone in the use of 
free software. they turned from openoffice to libreoffice and produced a 
package with extensions, templates, cliparts and new icons and menus.  I 
installed it and have to say it's nice.  I deleted some parts of the package 
related to older versions or not working.

http://www.istitutomajorana.it/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=1656Itemid=33

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

[libreoffice-marketing] other references

[Paolo Debortoli]

I don't understand when they were written, but they might be interesting:

http://www.datamation.com/applications/how-microsoft-office-tops-libreoffice-11-features-1.html

http://www.datamation.com/applications/how-libreoffice-writer-tops-ms-word-12-features-1.html




by the way...  still asking about weak points...  what we miss about 
marketing.  maybe we can address schools with posters, cds, broshures...  ?

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] other references

[Paolo Debortoli]

http://www.techsoup.org/learningcenter/software/page4765.cfm

targeting universities (we vhave already many example to quote) ?




 From: Paolo Debortoli paolo_debort...@yahoo.com
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 12:16 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] other references
 
I don't understand when they were written, but they might be interesting:

http://www.datamation.com/applications/how-microsoft-office-tops-libreoffice-11-features-1.html

http://www.datamation.com/applications/how-libreoffice-writer-tops-ms-word-12-features-1.html




by the way...  still asking about weak points...  what we miss about 
marketing.  maybe we can address schools with posters, cds, broshures...  ?

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ad on Facebook?

[Paolo Debortoli]

I have found a new article which coul be useful:

http://refugeeks.com/RefuGeeks/2012/07/why-pay-for-microsoft-office/


other ideas may be eventually targeting students (who could be attracted by the 
saving money) and schools (eg primary schools, copying the idea of microsoft, 
eg by sending a cd with a presentation letter or simply a printed brochure or 
poster).




 From: Paolo Debortoli paolo_debort...@yahoo.com
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ad on Facebook?
 

internet if full of articles and comments about libreoffice which can be used 
in advertising,  i don't know wether it should be more about functionality, 
costs, microfoft comparison or what...


http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-57364785-58/a-free-microsoft-office-alternative-thats-actually-good/

http://www.squidoo.com/Openoffice-org

http://www.technohunk.com/2012/09/libreoffice-and-microsoft-office/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3628542

http://blog.worldlabel.com/2012/seven-reasons-for-choosing-libreoffice-over-microsoft-office.html

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/apache-openoffice-3-4-makes-official-debut-libreoffice-makes-its-case/10915

http://www.novell.com/products/libreoffice/

may be advertising via banners in software's and magazines' websites   could 
also be an idea.




 From: Paolo Debortoli paolo_debort...@yahoo.com
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ad on Facebook?
 
LO 4.0 marketing plan ok, but maybe advertising on facebook may be too general 
(not everyone on fb is looking for an office productivity suite).  advertising 
on specialized magazines or websites by reporting our success e.g. in the 
french government or with some technical detail (such as the portable version 
or the european low about open data format in the public administrations) could 
be more productive.




From: Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com
To: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org 
Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ad on Facebook?

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hi,

 Provided that TDF has the budget, would you guys agree to have a
 sponsored link on Facebook?


I think we should discus this under LibreOffice 4.0 marketing plan.


 Thanks,
 --
 Charles-H. Schulz
 Co-Founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
 Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
 Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
 Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint




 --
 Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted




-- 
Danishka Navin
http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/danishkanavin
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

[libreoffice-marketing] interesting...

[Paolo Debortoli]

http://news.cnet.com/One-citys-move-to-open-source/2100-7344_3-5924184.html

http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/news/absent-interoperability-desktop-applications-locks-mannheim-city


mainly:

https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/news/basque-country-wants-european-directive-reuse-software
-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ad on Facebook?

[Paolo Debortoli]

LO 4.0 marketing plan ok, but maybe advertising on facebook may be too general 
(not everyone on fb is looking for an office productivity suite).  advertising 
on specialized magazines or websites by reporting our success e.g. in the 
french government or with some technical detail (such as the portable version 
or the european low about open data format in the public administrations) could 
be more productive.




 From: Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com
To: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org 
Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ad on Facebook?
 
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hi,

 Provided that TDF has the budget, would you guys agree to have a
 sponsored link on Facebook?


I think we should discus this under LibreOffice 4.0 marketing plan.


 Thanks,
 --
 Charles-H. Schulz
 Co-Founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
 Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
 Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
 Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint




 --
 Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted




-- 
Danishka Navin
http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/danishkanavin
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ad on Facebook?

[Paolo Debortoli]

internet if full of articles and comments about libreoffice which can be used 
in advertising,  i don't know wether it should be more about functionality, 
costs, microfoft comparison or what...


http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-57364785-58/a-free-microsoft-office-alternative-thats-actually-good/

http://www.squidoo.com/Openoffice-org

http://www.technohunk.com/2012/09/libreoffice-and-microsoft-office/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3628542

http://blog.worldlabel.com/2012/seven-reasons-for-choosing-libreoffice-over-microsoft-office.html

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/apache-openoffice-3-4-makes-official-debut-libreoffice-makes-its-case/10915

http://www.novell.com/products/libreoffice/

may be advertising via banners in software's and magazines' websites   could 
also be an idea.




 From: Paolo Debortoli paolo_debort...@yahoo.com
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ad on Facebook?
 
LO 4.0 marketing plan ok, but maybe advertising on facebook may be too general 
(not everyone on fb is looking for an office productivity suite).  advertising 
on specialized magazines or websites by reporting our success e.g. in the 
french government or with some technical detail (such as the portable version 
or the european low about open data format in the public administrations) could 
be more productive.




From: Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com
To: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org 
Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ad on Facebook?

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hi,

 Provided that TDF has the budget, would you guys agree to have a
 sponsored link on Facebook?


I think we should discus this under LibreOffice 4.0 marketing plan.


 Thanks,
 --
 Charles-H. Schulz
 Co-Founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
 Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
 Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
 Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint




 --
 Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted




-- 
Danishka Navin
http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/danishkanavin
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted