[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] Open Source Conference in Turkey

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Gülşah
Le 12 nov. 2015 22:27, "Gülşah Köse"  a écrit :
>
> Open Source  Conference 
was
> organized this year for the first time in Ankara - capital of Turkey -.
> Conference is going to take 5 days, it's started 9th november and it's
> going to end 13th november. The conference aims to bring together key
people in
> the public sector, to announce works on open source and free software like
> Pardus , enGerek
> , Lider Ahenk
>  and to raise
awareness.
> The Conference is local and unfortunately it hasn't any English websites.
I
> hope they will add soon.
>
>
> The first day of the conference i've given a talk about
> LibreOffice. LibreOffice is one of the most important points for Turkey.
> LibreOffice is an important step for spreading of free softwares. Because
> this office suit can run on GNU/Linux, MacOs, and Windows. LibreOffice
will
> take an important role in the migration to free operating systems.
>
>
> There was no active work on LibreOffice in Turkey until recently.
> Now there is a team in my University who works for LibreOffice. We are
> studying to learn LibreOffice, fixing the bugs and spreading our work and
> LibreOffice by blog posts and other social media tools. Thanks to Necdet
> Yücel  for advising
us
> in this process and thanks to helpfull LibreOffice development team.
>
>
> You can access my presentation from here
> .
My
> presentation includes following parts:
>
>- Libreoffice history
>
> I've told StarOffice, OpenOffice, Oracles's mistakes, why
> LibreOffice forked from OpenOffice and The Document Foundation.
>
>- Why we should use LibreOffice in public?
>
> In this part i've told principles of free software and why are
they
> important for us.
>
> LibreOffice Turkish translation rate is 100% and this is the most
> important necessity if we want to spread LibreOffice in Turkey. (Thanks to
> Turkish translation team)
>
> No licence fee. I tried to explain this part very carefully.
Because
> nothing should take precedence over LibreOffice is a free software.
> LibreOffice needs money to continue too.
>
> LibreOffice is improved enough to cover the needs and changable
> according to neccessaries.
>
>-  How to support LibreOffice. How to continue LibreOffice project?
>
> I've told that LibreOffice needs code contributions, translation,
> documentation and donation -for domains, servers, developers, events etc-
>
>- Which countries migrated to LibreOffice?
>
> I've told the countries using LibreOffice direct or indirect,
> reasons of unsuccesful and successful migrations.
>
>- What are we doing for LibreOffice in Turkey
>
> I've told our (LibreOffice team in University) works . We are 10
> people. I explained what should be done to increase this number.
>
>
> We are planning to participate next years conference as libreoffice
> developers.
>
>
> --
> *Gülşah Köse*
> *about.me *

Thank you so much for your work and your report, you're wonderful :)
Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] OWF 2014 videos

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

They will online again soon, they forgot some logos...
So stay tuned, I'll send an update here.
Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Engaging Users?

[Sophie Gautier]

Thanks :-)
Kind regards
Sophie

GSM
Le 29 oct. 2013 21:44, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Sophie, Italo, I will register you to LimeSurvey tomorrow morning.

 Best,

 Charles.


 Italo Vignoli it...@italovignoli.com a écrit :
 On 10/29/13 5:25 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 
  Please let me know if you're interested in translating it and I will
  add you to the Lime Survey instance (judging by the admin panel there
  it looks like I can do that otherwise Florian will help me  out).
 
 I would like to translate the survey into Italian, but from the
 document
 on the pad it is impossible to understand what has to be translated
 because is part of the final text.
 
 It would be nice to get a clean final version.
 
 I am sure that a good number of LibreItalia G+ members will answer the
 survey.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice stickers - proposal for odering

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On 07/06/2013 00:03, Cor Nouws wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Stickers will be ready soon. SO TIME TO MAKE YOUR WISHES KNOWN !
 
 There are the two designs, both in a 110 X 29 and a 60 x 17 mm version.
 The larger version of version [2] has a tag line:
 download - enjoy - share - support - www.libreoffice.org  
(small and light font color, compared to main text of course)
 
 I know Jean needs some soon.
 Rob will carry some to the Hamburg Hackfest (how manny needed)
 Some for active people else on the globe?

I would like to have a hundred of them to give to the FR contributors to
QA, Doc and support, thanks!

Cheers
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Promoting LibreOffice on Twitter - A Small case

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Hi Cor,
On 27/05/2013 23:40, Cor Nouws wrote:
 Sophie Gautier wrote (27-05-13 19:51)
 
 Just for information, I'm on my way to open a twitter account for the FR
 community.
 
 Very good :)
 It's possible to apply some mixed approach: sometimes a retweet and
 sometimes use the link, and make your own tweet, localized, or with info
 of 'local' interest.

Yes, that's what I do on my own account, but I want to separate them now.
 
 community. May be we should have anf easy to hack logo for NLPs to use
 on social networks and present a similar look and feel in order to
 improve LibreOffice brand visibility all in the same way?.
 
 I offer the design we have for the Dutch account
   https://twitter.com/LibreOffice_NL

Could you send me the file so I can modify it and I would like to put it
on the wiki too for other NLPs who would like to have a twitter account.

Thanks
Kind regards
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Persona will no longer use that name, but be part of Themes - according to Firefox

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi,
On 16/02/2013 22:13, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 
 
 I got an email from Mozilla about an issues with 2 of my Persona designs
 looking too similar.  When I replied to that email, I got one in return
 that had some info and a link to the following Blog.
 
 http://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2012/03/01/personas-are-joining-the-themes-family/
 
 
 It looks like Mozilla, as of March 1st, will not longer use the name
 Persona, as a separate idea over the generic Theme idea of a
 personalized background for Firefox.

This has been already discussed with the developers, they are aware of
it and they will replace Persona by Theme at the good time in a next
version.

Kind regards
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Persona will no longer use that name, but be part of Themes - according to Firefox

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,
On 17/02/2013 13:08, Mirek M. wrote:
 On Feb 17, 2013 9:47 AM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 On 16/02/2013 22:13, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


 I got an email from Mozilla about an issues with 2 of my Persona designs
 looking too similar.  When I replied to that email, I got one in return
 that had some info and a link to the following Blog.


 http://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2012/03/01/personas-are-joining-the-themes-family/


 It looks like Mozilla, as of March 1st, will not longer use the name
 Persona, as a separate idea over the generic Theme idea of a
 personalized background for Firefox.

 This has been already discussed with the developers, they are aware of
 it and they will replace Persona by Theme at the good time in a next
 version.
 
 Theme is a not a good term to use, as Microsoft Office has a different
 feature under that name [1] and it is likely that we will implement it in
 the future.

Yes, and we already have Theme in Calc, so it could be confusing for our
users to have two functions with the same name (you access them using
the Tools toolbar and the Select Them icon). In the other hand that's
sad that we can't use the same name as Mozilla.
 
 How about skin instead?

/me thinking how I'll translate that :) but yes, that's a good idea.

Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Wikipedia editing.

[Sophie Gautier]

On 13/02/2013 19:05, Jeff Fortin wrote:
 
 You may have missed Sophie's post? Try here: 
 [http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/mimo/]

 Is this it?
 
 Ah, not really... this website is only about downloading premade
 libreoffice bundles (or learning the tech specs of the bundles). It is
 not a (citeable) announcement of a mass deployment (with numbers and all
 that).

Most of the ministries using this version a cited on this site which is
the one for official publication by the French government. You won't
find anything else in France. The European commission has however a
publication
here
https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/elibrary/case/mimo-working-group-french-ministries-certify-libreoffice-release-0

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Wikipedia editing.

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Craig,
On 13/02/2013 19:54, Craig Olofson wrote:
 Jeff;
 
 Sophie does flesh out in a bit more detail who, in the French
 government, are using LibreOffice but there are still no numbers.
 Googling only finds unattributed 500 000.  I'll keep looking but,
 until then, here's the fuller story:
 
 http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/msg03450.html


It's in the article I pointed :
 Today, nine ministries compose the core of the working group: Energy
(Ecologie), Defence (Défense), Interior (Intérieur), Justice,
Agriculture, Culture and Communication, Education and Finance. MIMO's
open source office tools can potentially be deployed on 500 000
desktops, where OpenOffice is already installed. The Interior Ministry
is responsible for the largest deployment project, with 240 000 desktops.

Kind regards
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wikipedia editing.

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Hi Jeff,
On 12/02/2013 18:11, Jeff Fortin wrote:
 
 Thanks!
 could you add the french government's 500K desktops as well? There are
 many, many others as well.
 
 LibreOffice, not OOo?
 Well I'd need the exact sources to cite those... can you provide them?
 (but then it might also be easier to add them directly yourself ;)

Here is the source of the LibreOffice certified version they are
delivering :
http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/mimo/

Kind regards
Sophie


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[libreoffice-marketing] Check list and coordination table of release process

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

This is just to let you know that I'll be working on a coordination
table / check list common to all the projects concerned by the release
process. I'll upload it on the wiki and will send a mail to the
concerned projects. Of course, I'll forget a lot of things so don't
hesitate to jump in at that moment :)

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-projects] FOSDEM travel refunds

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,
On 05/02/2013 16:46, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hello,
 
 earlier this year, the board has approved a budget for FOSDEM travel
 refunds.
 
 If you have attended FOSDEM, and want to get reimbursed, please send the
 receipts to treasu...@documentfoundation.org (do NOT reply to this
 list!), alongside the required form.
 
 Hotel costs and transportation costs can be refunded, while other
 expenses like food can usually not be refunded. Exceptions can be
 granted only in rare occasions on a case-by-case basis.
 
 The instructions as well as the required forms are available in our wiki
 at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Refunding, section
 Refunding via SPI.
 
 While it looks rather formal, please don't be shy. ;-) TDF is happy to
 support its volunteers, and FOSDEM is considered an important event, so
 you are welcome to apply for refunding.
 
 If you have questions, feel free to poke the treasurer alias.

It has been removed from the wiki, but as I'm the SPI liaison, please
don't miss to put me in cc, that will simplify the following for me in
case of problems.
Thanks
Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Mapping the community

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Italo,
On 30/01/2013 16:19, Italo Vignoli wrote:
 Hi Sophie,
 
 On 1/30/13 12:20 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 
 Following Charles request of mapping the community I've dig my archives
 and found the mindmap I did in October 2011 (quite old :).
 I'm using FreeMind and send the map as a .png and .mm attachment.
 
 The marketing mailing list does not accept attachments. Can you please
 load the document somewhere, and send just the link inside the message?
 Thanks, Italo

As it is outdated and only Fridolin volunteered to work on it, I think
it's better if he first begins to actualize it and then uploads it on
the wiki for communication.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] TDF logo on personas

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On 28/01/2013 08:01, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Sophie Gautier wrote on 2013-01-27 14:03:
 I thought the TDF subline was only for official representation.
 
 exactly, and we should try to enforce this, since otherwise we risk that
 anyone in the end uses the official subline.
 
 Anyone already found a way of contacting the author?

A FR community member pointed me to this issue the author filled
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59749

Kind regards
Sophie
 
 Florian
 


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Adolfo Jayme Barrientos has added you on SkillPages

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Marc, all,
On 28/01/2013 14:25, Marc Paré wrote:
 PLEASE KICK THIS USER FROM OUR LIST!

Hum, I just think that he made a mistake, Adolfo aka Fitoshido is a
known contributor to our project, I'm sure he didn't want to spam the
list :)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] TDF logo on personas

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Simon,
On 27/01/2013 13:35, Simon Phipps wrote:
 What is the problem (apart from low resolution)?

I thought the TDF subline was only for official representation.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] TDF logo on personas

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Charles,
On 27/01/2013 17:28, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Le 27.01.2013 14:03, Sophie Gautier a écrit :
 Hi Simon,
 On 27/01/2013 13:35, Simon Phipps wrote:
 What is the problem (apart from low resolution)?

 I thought the TDF subline was only for official representation.
 Kind regards
 Sophie
 
 True; who designed them originally?

It seems to be HUNKharon as noted on the site. But I don't know how to
join him, I'm not using Firefox so may be I've not access to all of the
site.

Kind regards
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Call Minutes

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Charles, all,
On 20/01/2013 17:01, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Hello,

Thanks a lot for the minutes. Jumping to the topics where I've comments:
[...]

 * Topic #3 : Preparation of the 4.0 release: The Buzz
 
 1. Italo Vignoli will soon send out a detailed plan for the PR to the
 various parties involved
 2. Marc Paré has expressed his concern that while he had been looking
 for interviews with developers he had received no answer from them.
 Charles-H. Schulz will insist and make sure we get several of these
 before the release.

Maybe, you could also interview some l10n team members. This turn of
translation for 4.0 has been a huge effort for several of them. Through
this interview, this is possible to highlight also new features that
needs special attention like new financial functions or the new
conditional formatting manager and its options under Calc. I'm sure they
will be happy to talk about this hard and specialized work.
 
 * Topic #4 : Outstanding action items
 Fridolin believes he has to know more about the general organization of
 the project and the community before drafting the community
 newsletter. There is thus an acute interest in mapping out the
 community's team and general organization. Sophie Gautier has a mapping
 that's missing details but that can server as a base. In any case it is
 crucials for members of the marketing team to know how the project is
 organized and how our workflows run.

I need to dig in my archives to find it, it's a freemind map that needs
to be completed and that won't be before middle of next week. However,
I'm available to answer any questions you may have.

Kind regards
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Blogging of items on the Marketing List

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Hi Flo,
On 17/01/2013 13:12, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hi Sophie,
 
 Sophie Gautier wrote on 2013-01-15 11:46:
 You don't feel it compelling, but it has proven to work, lot of people
 are able to read several languages or understand the overall idea
 expressed. However, I've no energy to battle on this. The most important
 would be to have something working.
 
 it seems you are quite disappointed with this outcome, and I am sorry
 for that. My personal feeling is indeed that the main language should be
 English, and then link to various languages. Combining all languages in
 one stream/feed sounds like no good idea to me.

I've no problem with one planet in English only as it is now, but would
like to see another one for the NLP where I can read German, Japanese or
Malayalam if I want ;) I've been happy with that in the past and I'm
sure I was not alone.

 
 However, this is just my personal feeling, I am not vetoing anything here.
 
 Shall I put this on the BoD's agenda for next weeks call maybe, to get
 some more opinions?

I don't think the BoD has to decide here, I will adopt what will be
preferred by the marketing group, but you know, that won't prevent me to
express my personal opinion or my experience too :)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Blogging of items on the Marketing List

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Hi all,
On 14/01/2013 21:46, Marc Paré wrote:
[...]

 The FR team is more than welcome to start their (our) own blog and
 marketing team. Nothing has ever stopped us from doing it. Other nl
 groups are doing it. But in the meantime, if you read the thread from
 Florian, there are plans coming.
Sorry to jump here, I'm not a marketer, but I would like to express some
ideas:
Marc, let me disagree here, it's not about the FR project but about a
general way the NL project are seen and the resources that are
offered/provided/requested to/by them. I lose 60% of my audience by
having my blog removed (that doesn't encourage me to go on of course)
but that means also that there is, inside our project, a
misunderstanding or a misconception about language representation and
their impact on the overall communication on the marketing side.
 
 Taking care of our international EN site is another matter, it speaks
 for the project and does not necessarily follow the schedule of other
 parts of the project.

No, if we don't think to the overall community we are going to lose, or
pass by a lot of people, there is no difference between i18n and
NLprojects and one doesn't speak for another (or tell me what is
happening currently in the Russian project just for example).
That's a long time I said that if we settle a tool, whatever the usage,
it should be available for the overall community, and not only for the
common denominator. We should be equal to all and provide the same
resources for all. Otherwise, it's very discouraging for the isolated
efforts and it needs to double them at any time to only hope to be
visible and more important: to be effective. I know how it's easier to
say that we act for what might be the broader audience, but we deal with
people for people and they have a lot to say if we let them have a
chance to say it. And whatever the language, it's much better than silence.
 

 From a $$ perspective, this limits the number of domains that we need to
 budget for.
 And it also gives credibility to the blog posts because it is directly
 hosted by LibreOffice.

That is important, whatever the blog if it is out of the community, it
will always suffer of lack of recognition or credibility, and it's not a
matter of money. More some projects need to be backed by the community
to make sure their credibility won't be attacked.

Kind regards
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Google AdWords

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On 02/01/2013 08:27, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hi Immanuel,
 
 Immanuel Giulea wrote on 2012-12-29 15:47:
 
 Great work on getting the grant, very good news.
 
 thanks! It was rather easy to apply, so the merits are with Google for
 granting us free adwords. ;-)
 
 I went to check the Donate page in French (I am in Quebec, we speak
 French), and the links to the statutes and the manifesto are documents in
 English.

 Are these documents available in French?
 It might be easier to get people to donate to TDF/adopt LO if
 documentation
 was available in French. At least the main documents like the
 manifesto and
 statutes.
 
 Unfortunately, right now, the statutes are only available in English and
 German. However, feel free to translate them - the more localizations we
 do have, the better it is, I totally second that feeling!

We are used to work as a team (and we really want to further this way of
working for the FR community), so please come to the FR team if you want
to do localization especially if it concerns legal things. Thanks in
advance.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Mapping the community

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Hi Charles, all
On 30/12/2012 17:56, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 As you will recall the Marketing project's mission is to act as an
 information broker inside the LibreOffice project, as well as from
 inside it to the outside. Let's start with a fundamental block of this
 role then:
 we should map our community. What does this mean? It means to draw both
 the structure and the workflows of our community, from one end of the
 project to the other.
 
 The end result can be anything from a chart to a logical diagram, I
 think only text might be too dry and complex but suggestions are
 welcome. Any takers ?

I usually use a mindmap for that, but it's not very sexy on a marketing
point of view :) Anyway, I think that my knowledge of the community and
its workflow/interaction can help here, so don't hesitate to count me in.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Japanese page on FB

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Hi all,

Just to let you know about the Japanese page on FB here :
https://www.facebook.com/LibreofficeStudyJapan
From my (poor) Japanese understanding, it's about meetings on
LibreOffice study currently in Kanto, Kansai and Kyushu.
Anybody from the Japanese group to talk a bit more about it?
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Japanese page on FB

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Hi Naruhiko,
On 30/12/2012 19:07, Naruhiko Ogasawara wrote:
 Hi Sophie, all,
 
 
 Thanks for comment to Japanese community work :)

You're welcome :) I know your group is doing a lot of marketing and
meetings, it's really great to see how you are active.
 
 Just to let you know about the Japanese page on FB here :
 https://www.facebook.com/LibreofficeStudyJapan
 From my (poor) Japanese understanding, it's about meetings on
 LibreOffice study currently in Kanto, Kansai and Kyushu.
 Anybody from the Japanese group to talk a bit more about it?
 
 Yes, your understanding is perfect!

Thanks a lot :)

 This FB group is META group to discuss how we can start,
 continue or manage the LibreOffice offline meetings in each
 places.
 It's very young, limited target group, but I hope it helps
 people who want to do something about LibreOffice meetings
 in Japan.

I'm sure it will, it's a very good idea.
 
 
 And we have another group LibreOffice (日本語) :
 https://www.facebook.com/LibreOfficeJa
 
 Its more famous, widely used FB group in Japan.
 We use the group to share the news, topics or something
 interest about LibreOffice in Japanese. currently 184 ppl
 likes it.

well 185 now ;)
 
 To be honest, our core community members mostly likes ML
 or Twitter than FB, but we know FB is powerful tool to
 reach many casual (non-geek) users that's why we care
 the group.

And you're right, any media that can help us to gather people is
welcome. But the Japanese group is far from the French one for example,
I didn't meet enough people to open a FB page, or a G+ or even a twitter
account.

Naruhiko, don't hesitate to report here what you're are doing, your
initiatives or anything you're putting in place. It's very interesting
for all of us and help us to learn how to put the same things in place
in our own language.
 
 
 Thanks again,

Thanks to you and your community for the great investment in LibreOffice.
Kind regards
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Google AdWords

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Hi,
On 29/12/2012 15:47, Immanuel Giulea wrote:
 Great work on getting the grant, very good news.
 
 I went to check the Donate page in French (I am in Quebec, we speak
 French), and the links to the statutes and the manifesto are documents in
 English.
 
 Are these documents available in French?
 It might be easier to get people to donate to TDF/adopt LO if documentation
 was available in French. At least the main documents like the manifesto and
 statutes.

If you follow the FR link at the top at the pages, you'll see that our
team has translated them. It's only me who didn't add the localized link
in the donate page.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice cover photo - Google+

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 at all levels and this has been done
using the same logo, most of the time just adding the language code on
or around it, but always with this logo has a basis of recognition for
our community.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice cover photo - Google+

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Hi Marc,
On 21/12/2012 19:03, Marc Paré wrote:
 Hi Sophie,
 
 Le 2012-12-21 11:49, Sophie Gautier a écrit :
 Beside that, we didn't wait either to market the community, even if much
 more should be done. Native language groups have already made huge
 efforts to get new contributors at all levels and this has been done
 using the same logo, most of the time just adding the language code on
 or around it, but always with this logo has a basis of recognition for
 our community.

 Kind regards
 Sophie
 
 I think this is less of a problem with nl groups. When FR-LibreOffice is
 used, it usually means community unless you are on the download page.
 But I think most people will associate the nl-LibreOffice with a
 community to start off with.

But most of the time we say that we are the LibreOffice community, and
for the FR group, we even don't use the letters for our marketing
material (the banner, pins, etc...). See also the marketing material
used by the other groups, we don't need to have anything else than
LibreOffice to feel that the community is behind.
 
 The problem here is where to use LibreOffice to mean both the
 community and the product. I am proposing that a subtle visual aid would
 perhaps help in marketing our community and obviously help us in
 marketing the already established product logo.

It's not necessary, we are used to have the same branding for the
product and the community. The product is our baby and we are part of
the product. No need to differentiate between the two, it is the same.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Need help with EN text and improving it

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Hi all,

Could you tell us what is the final text to translate? I'll pass it to
the projects list.
Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie
On 18/11/2012 16:34, Marc Paré wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 Could you all take a look at the following and help make the text
 better? I think it needs some improvement.
 
 The following text is part of a template that will be translated into
 our 100 or so supported languages. I hope that we can improve the EN
 language used in the message before it is sent for translation into our
 Pootle system.
 
 I would like to examine both syntax, punctuation etc. for the EN
 language as well as the proper choice and flow of words.
 
 Deadline max. to complete: about a couple of days, less if possible.
 
 Here is the English template:
 
 ===
 
 Thank you very much for your e-mail and your interest in LibreOffice.
 
 Due to the increasing popularity of the free office suite, we receive
 lots of support requests day by day. Unfortunately, we can't reply
 personally to every e-mail, as our engagement in the project is
 completely on a volunteer basis and in our spare time. This often
 demands several hours of volunteer engagement per day, leaving no time
 to respond to individual requests.
 
 However, the Community does offer a large variety of mailing lists to
 support its users. We have compiled an overview at
 
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
 
 Please have a look at these pages, and send your inquiry to our mailing
 lists. Chances are high that your problem then will be solved very soon.
 
 ===
 
 Cheers,
 
 Marc
 
 


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] what languages are being worked on for LO - not listed on the download page

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Hi,
On 19/11/2012 22:12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 
 What languages are being worked on for LO - not listed on the download page
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86

You'll find them here (almost) :
http://translations.documentfoundation.org/
 
 I showed it to a doctor and his non-English language was not listed.
 Filipino - if I got it right.
 
 I told him that there were other languages being worked on, but
 currently 95% of the world population could use one on the currently
 supported languages in the list.  His English is his primary language,
 but his parents and other family members still use their native language
 along with English.  So he uses it as well.

If he wants to read about l10n:
http://sophiegautier.com/blog/index.php/2012/11/16/186-are-you-a-contributor-part-8-localization
 
 I could not believe that I was not compensated for my work with LO.  He
 never heard of the FOSS movement and why people would volunteer their
 time to developpackages like LO.
 
:)

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: ideas for campaigns

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Hi all,
Resent with the good address ;)
On 04/11/2012 20:34, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 I would like to throw some ideas for the next donation campaign or the
 next com campaign, you can forget about it if you want, I'm not a
 specialist just an idea picker from the other projects ;)
 
 - have ready to use donation buttons/banners (translatable) for our
 supporters who want to put them on their site or articles.
 - same with a thank you button
 - have a common thread (I imagine something with our logo) that any of
 us can follow, imagine and relay on our social media
 - have some large objectives mentioned so people may bet for what they
 are giving
 - have a more aggressive campaign with 2 or 3 people in charge of
 repeating the message, thanking people, creating buzz around it for a
 fixed period (not to bother people ;)
 - mark a deadline because that push people to invest themselves more
 than if it's diluted in time.
 
 Kind regards
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[libreoffice-marketing] info on conference follow up?

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Hi all,

I'm currently working on the November newsletter for the FR project and
would like to give some info about the follow up of the conference, so
some questions :
- do you have an idea of when the videos will be online and where
- same for the slides of the tracks
- same for the photos of the event.

Thanks in advance
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] info on conference follow up?

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Hi Florian,
On 02/11/2012 18:56, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Sophie Gautier wrote on 2012-11-02 17:53:
 
 - do you have an idea of when the videos will be online and where
 
 I don't know yet. The video producers promised us to provide it soon,
 but there's no exact timeline.
 
 - same for the slides of the tracks
 
 The slides should be available rather soon. We received most of them and
 just have to embed them in the website.
 
 - same for the photos of the event.
 
 We have so far received only very little uploads, only from two people,
 so I guess this will take a while.

ok, thanks a lot, so I'll say stay tuned in my newsletter ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Defining a marketing strategy

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Hi Charles, all,
On 05/07/2012 16:37, Charles-H.Schulz wrote:

Hello everyone,

[...]

Apologies for the long message,
So I hope you don't mind if I make it really shorter and with direct 
questions after your needed explanations ;)


- marketers, who are you? who among you feels to be and wants to be a 
contributor in this field ?

x Danishka
x Marc
x... ?
-- please don't hesitate to share your ideas and experience

- what are the actions you want to take ?
x I have seen the DVD on US marketing (thanks to WKPP :)
x Brazilian community is doing a lot
-- my question: would it be interesting to document these actions and 
try to reproduce them or is it only local possible efforts ?


- what difficulties do you meet to join or to take action on your area?

Thanks in advance for you feedback
Kind regards
Sophie

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[libreoffice-marketing] Are we ambassadors ?

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Hi all,

I would like to work with you on a concept that I like very much and I 
would like to see if we could adapt it to our LibreOffice project, I 
mean the Ambassador concept of the Fedora project

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors

I really like this definition :
'Fedora Ambassadors are experienced contributors to the Fedora Project 
who are responsible for representing, promoting, and expanding the 
Fedora Project and its ideals to the larger F/LOSS community and the 
public at large.'


That embed more than just marketing and is really community at large 
(more than Fedora project) building.
What do you think of the idea and who would be ready to work on settling 
the structure for the LibreOffice project ?


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibOCon CfL

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On 08/01/2012 21:49, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

drew wrote on 2012-01-08 16:22:

Well, I understand your concern - but the difference between seeing a
video of a presentation along with the Q+A interaction versus reading
the the presentation file on slideshare is such that they are not
comparable.


what do others think? I guess until tomorrow we can refine the call for
locations, later on, it could be quite problematic...

Drew: Do you have a proposal on how we could write that we strongly
encourage people to provide video archives, any stronger term than I
used in my text?
If this is so important, so lets relief the organization team and make 
it a task for the marketing team to ensure that videos will be taken and 
made available in a good delay. The budget can be assigned to the 
organization, but we could have a dedicated team for that and improve it 
year after year instead of building it again every year. We know that 
some network like Renater (http://www.renater.fr/?lang=en) are ready to 
help us, may be we should take advantage of it if we are in Europe again?

Just an idea :)
Kind regards
Sophie



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Mascot-Logo for LibreOffice/TDF

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Hi,

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Christian Lohmaier
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi *,

 when watching the pictures people took at the conference, I came
 across that one:

 http://naplatno.cz/libocon2011-days-1-2/content/DSC_1069_large.html

We should take the pins the German group has done and just add the
fine drawing of Michael, also in black, on them ;-)

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[libreoffice-marketing] Talk at the Ubunty Party in Paris

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

Just for information, I'll attend the Ubuntu Party in Paris on the
11th to 13th of November and will present on LibO and TDF.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

As per Florian request, I'm posting here the draft I made, feel free
to add your mandatory items to the list:

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
[...]

 I understood your proposal was to actually announce the new location in 
 Paris. I think that's impractical. But I do think it's possible to start the 
 call-for-location process now, promote it in Paris, and announce the new 
 location in January. The timeline for 2012 would look something like:

 September 1st  : Announce the Call for Location for 2012
 October 1st:  PR about the process, announce details of the Selection Panel
 Paris conference:  Plenary slot explaining the process and timeline
 November  15th:  Applications close
 December:  Selection Panel reviews applications
 January 15th: Location announced

 And for 2013:

 September 1st: Mention in PR there will be a 2013 selection process
 November 15th:  Announce the Call for Location for 2013
 January 15th:  Include news of 2013 process in PR
 March:  Promote 2013 Call for Location
 May 31st: Applications close
 June/July: Selection Panel reviews applications
 August 30th: 2013 venue announced
 October: @013 team attends and helps with 2012 conference

Points to take into account for the next proposal
+ main venue
- easy to access from international transports
- easy to access from accommodations
- at least 2 big rooms for conf hosting + one for meetings/others +
one place for community gathering

+ team
- at least 5 persons are necessary for the whole organization
- one should be dedicated to sponsor relations and to
invitations/visa, administrative tasks (it's very time consuming).
- have a local NGO for expenses and sponsoring and deal with the money

+ it could be along another event, but should have enough room/meeting
points for our own conf

---
Questions for the proposal:
- describe the location
- describe your team
- why would you like to host the conf
- have you local sponsors/organizations
- ?

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: [steering-discuss] SPI donation page

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Hi Drew, all,

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 6:18 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 12:02 -0400, drew wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 16:29 +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote:

 snip

  Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-09-11 12:57:
  
   - provide a donation description, something like: Donation to support
   the LibreOffice projet. The LibreOffice office suite is base on the
   ODF file format standard, includes features such as a text processor,
   a spreadsheet and presentation and database modules. It is used by
   individual and organization worldwide. (copied from the Debian one
   ;),
   - a receipt message (up to 800 chars) like Thank you for your
   contribution in support of the LibreOffice project and The Document
   Foundation. something better is welcome.
 
  especially following today's discussions, can you ask that on
  marketing@global? ;)

 Hi Sopihie, et al

 May I offer a slightly different wording:
 Once more after human spell check..oops

 Donation to support the LibreOffice project. The LibreOffice suite
 offers native support of the Open Document Format (ODF) standard.
 Features include separate text processor, spreadsheet, presentation and
 database modules. It is in use by individuals and organizations worldwide.

 Best wishes,

Thanks a lot Drew for your proposal, I take it, it's a great one.
I was waiting for comments on #2 but as there is none, I'll send what I've done.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Conference 2011 Presentation Template

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Hi Christoph,

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Christoph Noack
christ...@dogmatux.com wrote:
 Hi Charles,

 sorry for bothering ... did you mean Erich Christian? It seems that I'm
 unable to reach him - I've sent him a mail a few days ago. So, does
 anybody else have the list of speakers (and a preferred way to get in
 touch with them), or would it make more sense to extract the names from
 the conference program? If the latter, then I'll try ...

I have to mail all the speakers for our press agency matters, so if
you wait a little, say until tomorrow evening, I'll be able to mail
you the complete list name+mail address.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Experiment awards at OWF

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Hi Italo,

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sophie Gautier wrote:

 We will soon get the electronic version of the award to put it
 somewhere on the site or the wiki if you want.

 We need it for the anniversary announcement, as it is the second award
 in september after InfoWorld BOSSIE Award.

In case you can take the photo I have shared on G+, it will be the same.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: [steering-discuss] SPI donation page

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

Following Flo request, I'm forwarding here the test needed for the SPI
donation page.
Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie

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From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
Date: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] SPI donation page
To: steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org


Hi Sophie,

Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-09-11 12:57:

 - provide a donation description, something like: Donation to support
 the LibreOffice projet. The LibreOffice office suite is base on the
 ODF file format standard, includes features such as a text processor,
 a spreadsheet and presentation and database modules. It is used by
 individual and organization worldwide. (copied from the Debian one
 ;),
 - a receipt message (up to 800 chars) like Thank you for your
 contribution in support of the LibreOffice project and The Document
 Foundation. something better is welcome.

especially following today's discussions, can you ask that on
marketing@global? ;)

I guess especially #1 is something for our marketeers to work on.

Thanks,
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre

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Hi all,
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:24 PM, leif leiflod...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 21-08-2011 20:13, Italo Vignoli wrote:

 This is fine. I have clipped the OSOR article which includes quite a few
 information on the project.

 If you want an interview or a special quote I can find contact information
 for you.

Nice also that Gilles posted very soon about this on the TDF Facebook
wall based on the OSOR announcement
http://www.osor.eu/news/dk-25-000-hospital-staff-copenhagen-region-to-use-open-source-office-suite
And of course, congrats to your team :-)
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Flo,

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Hi Leif,

 Leif Lodahl wrote on 2011-08-17 17:48:

 The Paris conference is in October and honestly, can we make a decision
 before that? If not, lets leave it for the moment.

 yes and no. I agree that we can spend our time with lots of other important
 things. However, keep in mind that if we wait until the Paris conference is
 over, first the next year's team misses the opportunity to collaborate with
 this year's team, plus the preparation time for the teams gets shorter day
 by day, not to forget the Christmas vacations.

As Leif said, it could be good to define the strusture of the call for
location now, but make the call much later. There is a lot to define
first, and this year conf wil help us even if we are several now to
have already organized that kind of event. We can help and share with
the next team later on.

 I'm not saying we need to announce the next year's venue at Paris, but I
 would like to at least start the process.

So we should begin to list things on the wiki.

 My suggestion is that we raise the question for discussion: Should the
 conference always be in Europe or should we circulate it. Or should we
 perhaps have a main conference circulating and separate local
 conferences
 on each continent. Many thoughts could come around, but we can't make a
 final decision before Paris. In the future it could be a good idea to
 announce next years revenue on this years conference but not this year.

 That's indeed a tough question. I recall it from OpenOffice.org times as
 well. IMHO Louis had the proposal of having a fixed set of countries or even
 cities, amongst several continents, organizing the conference, so people can
 plan and every continent has a chance.

 However, looking at last year's proposals, it became harder and harder to
 find a well balanced proposal, with financial support and the like, plus
 reachability by the target audience.

 There has also been the proposal of hosting a RegiCon, a regional
 conference, besides the main conference.

 These are indeed proposals we can look into. First, however, I would like to
 see who would like to apply at all. If we only get proposals from, let's say
 Europe and the US, we don't need to think about hosting a conference in
 Asia, because no organizer is there

 But, indeed, it's a tough question, I totally agree, and I really would like
 to give everyone a fair chance of participating at our conference, which is
 Europe-centric at the moment.

I think we should start now with the content of the call for location
and what should not be avoided when setting it.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Help for a message to attract QA members

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Renata, Helio and all,
On 10/06/2011 14:44, Renata Marques wrote:

Hi Sophie,

I liked the message. It's funny and show the requirements the person should
has to be able to get involved.


Thanks a lot for your feedback


I have a question: Where this messagem will be published?


I thought to publish it on the discuss@ and projects@ lists. And also 
ask Flo to publish it on our social media network (blog, twitter...)


How the prize

(number of bug) will be informed ?


I thought to create a fake bug, simple to understand and which 
represents what you can find on BZ, something not difficult to 
understand but clearly without enough details.


Btw, how can I work on this triaging? Wich list is appropriate?


To learn the process and get involved as a first step, we can use the 
projects@list, there is low traffic on it and that won't disturb 
anybody. If the developers have to be involved, the libreoffice@ is the 
right list, but they won't appreciate if we are noisy for anything else.

There is also this wiki page, that will be added to the message
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage

Thanks again for your interest and feedback
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Help for a message to attract QA members

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Cor,
On 11/06/2011 03:06, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Sophie,

Sophie Gautier wrote (10-06-11 08:24)


I would like to draft a message to attract QA people to work on bug
triaging, we need more hands here every day. Could you help me to get
something fun, attractive and that have enough info however to let
people make their decision.


Thanks, a nice idea :-)

Making bug-hunting etc appealing enough for people to step in, indeed is
not easy, but oh so valuable. It also is important on
local/national/language level.

What if I posted your draft to the Dutch NL discuss list and ask if
people feel attracted, and what could be added in their opinion?


Yes and thanks for your help. Tell them that the link to the wiki 
instruction will be added and the projects@ list too.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brazilian domains

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,
On 12/05/2011 11:00, Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Charles,

You wrote:

Drew,

2011/5/12 drewd...@baseanswers.com


On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 22:25 -0300, luiz wrote:

Hi,


On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 17:17 +, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

And this recalls another concern of ours: there are 4 brazilians as

TDF members/founders.

I count 3: Claudio, David and Olivier.

Eliane Domingos is the fourth.

//drew



Hi Luiz.

It was simply that I knew there was at least four members from Brasil
- I recalled seeing a blog by Olivier Hallot on the subject.


http://olivierhallot.blogspot.com/2011/05/novo-membro-da-document-foundation.html

You are going places in your reply however where I have no business
going.

Best wishes,

Drew



As far as I can tell, this link is quite clear:
http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/
I don't see Eliane Domingos in that list.


So don't comment on what you expect, but read what is written:

Paulo did refer to founding members and actual TDF members.


But as a member of the committee, what I see is that Paulo membership 
application is in review and have not been refused nor accepted.
So this is simply not true that we have favored anybody here, and the 
review period is necessary for us when we have to check the 
participation, even more in another language than English.

We are just volunteers trying to get the things correctly done too.
And if there is an issue with a decision of the committee, feel free to 
claim for explanation on the steering discuss list.

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie


Please have a look here:
http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/

Regards

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[libreoffice-marketing] UK gov open standards survey

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi,

Tell them the standards they need ;)
http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/content/uk-government-open-standards-survey

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo for Website

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi David,
On 20/03/2011 00:05, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

Merci Sophie,

J'ai inséré ce logo  sur http://www.goall.fr/annuaire
Il ira très bien, même s'il n'invite pas explicitement à télécharger
LibreOffice quand on le regarde.


Thanks a lot for you support. We don't have all the logos at hand 
currently, but this is definitely something we should ask to our design 
team: a logo with a download indication.

Thanks again
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo for Website

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi David,
On 19/03/2011 20:40, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

Hello,

On http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding , I can't find
a logo for website, like http://www.pdfreaders.org/graphics.fr.html .
Would it be possible to have one? I'd like to place it on
http://www.goall.fr/annuaire


The one you can use currently is this one
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources_for_external_use

If you have any other question, don't hesitate to ask, you can also use 
our French discuss list disc...@fr.libreoffice.org.


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[libreoffice-marketing] 3.4 feature list

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

Is anybody already working on listing the 3.4 features (planed or 
already implemented)?

Thanks in advance
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Migration guide from Saragosse town

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi,
On 15/03/2011 15:20, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

[...]


Sophie:

Was that French article online?


Yes, here it is, but not very interesting in fact
http://tinyurl.com/5tdol6a

Was there an English version of the PDF

file you linked to?


No, unfortunately it's only in Spanish.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Migration guide from Saragosse town

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

I was reading a French article this morning about Linux on the desktop 
in administrations in Europe and it was referring to a Spanish document 
based on migration facts from Saragosse town. Intereting migration guide.


http://www.zaragoza.es/contenidos/azlinux/migracionescritoriosl.pdf

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: help please - accessibility info

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi,
On 04/03/2011 19:41, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
[...]


Thanks Marc. It would be a good marketing aspect if LibreOffice can
state that they are working towards making their package as accessible
as possible for all users, including those who have special
accessibility needs.

I wonder if any of the Voice-to-Text packages like Dragon that is
advertised on TV works with LibreOffice.


From what I know Dragon Naturally Speaking was working with 
OpenOffice.org. I don't know yet with LibreOffice.


 If LibreOffice is known to work

with some of these packages [Microsoft had a free one once], then it
could be stated as well. Whatever can be stated that makes LibreOffice
easy to use [especially easier than MSO] would be an advantage. This
package is not completely supporting .docx and other of the newest MSO
file formats, but hopefully that will become better supported. Stating
it can read/write Word .doc and Excel .xlt files works for my clients
when I do computer support. I still get/use those types of files and
templates and even though I save my copies to ODF formats, I send them
on as MSO files to those who have not yet switched due to agency IT
policies. Many of these agencies are those who support the needs of the
disabled/impaired individuals, both adult and youth.


The issue we get is that we lack of feedback about what software works 
or not. I'm on two lists dedicated to visually impaired people (one is 
located in France the other in Belgium) to get this feedback but they 
are mostly Linux users.


I have a statement on the demo site for the Americas DVD project.
[quote]
LibreOffice supports a large number of file formats, including the
following:

Open Document Format [ODF], Microsoft® Office file formats, HTML,
WordPerfect, Rich Text Format, Lotus formats, Office Open XML, along with
many other word processor, database, spreadsheet, image/drawing, and
other formats used for personal and business needs.
[unquote]

It seems that there are over 80 lines in the open file type option in
the initial screen. It may be a good idea to list out all these
supported files some place on the distribution DVDs when you give
information about what file formats LibreOffice can read and those it
can write as. It may be something that could be given out on a sheet or
brochure with the CD/DVD copy of LibreOffice. I am thinking about that
myself. If there is something like that already made, it would be easier
than me making one up.

But back to the Accessibility issue. It would be nice to be known as an
organization the cares about the needs of better accessibility for
software packages. Though it is a small market group, it seems to be
good press. And the more good press LibreOffice gets, the better it is,
Right?

You're right. If we could have more feedback on the different tools, 
their versions, etc and how they connect with LibreOffice it would be 
good too.
I've made a FAQ in French for OpenOffice.org [1] that I'll port to 
LibreOffice. If somebody wants to translate it in English, it would be 
great because I won't have the time to do it before months. Also it 
should be maintained and enhanced, it's not done currently.


[1]http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/FR/FAQ/Accessibilite

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[libreoffice-marketing] Preparing Native Lang sites for the release

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Native Lang Website teams,

I'm speaking to the website teams more than to the l10n leads here :)
Bellow you'll find the wishes of the marketing project and the work that 
they would like to see achieved before the release next week.
You can go your way or follow what is requested bellow (or mix the two 
;) it's up to you.


The PR is discussed on the private PR list, but I can send it to you as 
soon as it's ready, just request it and I'll send it privately to be 
discussed/adapted with your teams.


If you would like to be added to the private PR list just drop me a mail 
too. This is where prepare the announcement for the next version, under 
the direction of Italo, just as we had in the OOo project.
The process is, like in every part of our project, still a work in 
progress, so sorry for the short notice for all this wokr, I'm sure we 
will be much better next time :)


Don't hesitate if you have any question or need any help from me.

Kind regards
Sophie

 Original Message 
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] marketing todos for 3.3 release
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:02:15 +0100
From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
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To: marketing@libreoffice.org, market...@us.libreoffice.org

Hello,

as we are quickly reaching our 3.3 release, during today's marketing
conference call, we collected items that should be done for the release
day. The date itself is not clearly fixed yet, but I expect it to be
within the next few days, so we should take a chance to work on it over
the weekend. :-)

Here's the list, any additions welcome:

* the local websites as well as libreoffice.org itself should be
prepared with the news

* we need to translate the features page into the various languages

* ideally, this comes also with localized screenshots that are used to
outline the new features

* the PR will soon be circulated and should then be translated into the
various languages and prepared for distribution

* you can add local quotes if you want

* we should point to local or global events where LibO community
members can be met, like FOSDEM and CeBIT:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events

* we should throw local release parties:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/LibOReleaseEvents

* we might decide on a slogan to use for certain marketing activies:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Slogan (#35 seems to be a
good choice :-)

* we need to get in touch with journalists

* for the spokespeople, I'm sure there are lots of local contacts who
built connections with journalists over the last years, and you are of
course free to talk about LibreOffice, the product and the community

* for media requests specifically concerning the Foundation, please
route them to the TDF spokespeople, currently Charles, Italo, Olivier
and myself

* we should get global quotes, Charles and I am working on this

Sorry for this rather short compilation, and especially sorry for
staying so absent in the marketing list the last weeks. The
infrastructure and the foundation things kept me rather busy, but I am
now slowly coming back also to marketing and will contribute as I did
during my OOo times. :-)

We will also gradually improve structure, like local marketing contacts
and the like, so the workflow is even more optimized for 3.3.1 and 3.4. :-)

Thanks for all your help!
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi David,
On 08/01/2011 17:54, David Nelson wrote:

Hi Sophie, :-)

Truthfully, your interpretation of what that text refers to is
erroneous... they are talking of screenshots of Microsoft products
such as MS Windows or Office, but *not* of screenshots taken of other
people's products and works simply running under MS Windows... There's
no need to worry. You see screenshots of software running under
Windows *all over the Internet*... ;-) We're perfectly safe. ;-)


No, it's not my interpretation (I know I may not have a full 
understanding of another language :), we never get a firm statement but 
only different interpretations from lawyers, this is why we have decided 
to not use screen shots made using Windows. I can't remember where the 
discussions occurs on the OOo site, maybe website list, I'll point you 
to the archives otherwise.


It may sound stupid, but can you imagine that I had to declare people 
using ssh for the OOoFR site in France several years ago because the 
encryption we used was not allowed and considered as a security issue. 
I'm sure the Debian contributors never have to do so. Just to say that 
we have to be cautious.


In any case, I already took a large number of screenshots, and our
documentation is *full* of screenshots taken under Windows, so this
would involve an *enormous* amount of work to rectify.. ;-)


Yes may be, but it's not a sufficient reason to continue to take the 
risk :). The more we are visible and known, the more we are exposed.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [OT] Where's the product roadmap?

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Cor,

On 03/01/2011 23:59, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hello Craig,

Craig B. Olofson wrote (02-01-11 20:22)

Hello  Happy New Year to all;


Happy new year to you.
 welcome :-)


I have been (more or less) lurking on the marketing and users lists for
a couple of weeks so that I can understand the community's priorities as
LibO nears its first official release. Now, I am postingto find a way to
work with your community.


Must have been interesting times, all the lurking ;-)


Normally, to get an idea of where I can best make a positive
contribution, I would read the product's roadmap. Unfortunately, I can't
find it. From the main wiki page[1], I've read through the Marketing and
Design sections and skimmed the others. Both Marketing and Product
Development have their lists[2][3] but I am hoping for a document which
explicitly matches short- and long-term goals with the LibO's
technologies. A couple of different (random) F/LOSS examples of what I'm
talking about would be Eclipse[4] or Plone[5].

Alternatively, maybe there is a list of tasks to which I can be
referred? Or should I take this off-list and talk with someone
specifically?


Great to see your interest in this subject!

Alas, as for now, in our young and fast evolving project, there is no
clear roadmap.

Interesting for you I think, is the following announcement:
http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/msg00016.html

Furthermore, it is on my personal to do list, to start gathering
information (mainly from developers) to find out if there are more items
that can give insight in future plans. Although I think planning is
difficult at the moment, and also it is hard to predict what ideas and
code new developers will come up.
Anything better then nothing though.


If it can help, for the features list, I've ask that an issue is open 
each time a new feature is implemented, so I think we'll find a special 
tag on BZ, then we can retrieve a the new features very quickly and more 
often than now, where it only happens long after feature freeze.

Also, I'll try to add details for the l10n/doc/marketing projects.

So we should be able to have the beginning of the schedule (I'm going to 
put the one for 3.3 online today), with the feature freeze date, l10n 
hand off, etc, that should help to draw the roadmap for 3.4 and 3.x.

In any case, Cor, if you need help, don't hesitate to ping me.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Release tasks for Marketing

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Tom,

[it would be great if you cote the actual message you're answering to 
and the person you address. Also, as seen in another thread, keep the 
same subject in the thread or open a new thread, it would help searching 
the archives of the list, thanks in advance for this].


On 04/01/2011 10:07, Tom Davies wrote:

It might help if each list focussed on working in it's own area.  For example
there is a design team so marketting could send discussions about design to that
team.  The same for website.  It doesn't make sense for the documents team to
take over details of running the website when the website team is doing that.
Similarly for these discussions about strategy and overview = do they really
belong in marketing?


Yes, because the marketing team has in charge to market the product, but 
also the community. So being aware of what's going on on each part of 
the project, its global strategy, having an overview of it and being 
able to advertise all this is an important task for the health of the 
project itself.
The issue of the task mentioned by Marc is that it requires a lot of 
time and patience.


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[libreoffice-marketing] Update of feature list

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

I've just updated the features list, I think now it's complete (I'll 
update the languages list later, after the last l10n round).


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/LibOReleaseEvents/LOPressKit/FeatureList3.3

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Update of feature list

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Cor,
On 31/12/2010 20:09, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Sophie,

Sophie Gautier wrote (31-12-10 15:01)


I've just updated the features list, I think now it's complete (I'll
update the languages list later, after the last l10n round).

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/LibOReleaseEvents/LOPressKit/FeatureList3.3



Hmm, what to say ... thanks a lot, again.
Extraordinary how much you do for us all :-)


Thank you very much for that, but you know what? I've done very few in fact.
The features list was initiated by Marc Paré and now completed by the FR 
project. So I'm of very little here, just a voice :-)


Have a nice evening
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,
On 30/12/2010 18:10, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Benjamin Horst wrote:

We can take a look at the example of the Drupal community for one
successful policy. The Drupal trademark cannot be used by for-profit
companies or in their domains, but it is permitted for non-profits and
in the domain names of non-profits. I think this has worked well for
them, and could provide a good model for LibreOffice as well.


It's a good idea, but this policy will require significant adaptations
to be useful for LibreOffice: for example, Drupal is not sold on DVDs,
and does not share code with similar projects bearing its name (to make
it clear: I can envisage someone wanting to build and distribute/sell
something called LibreOffice Professional Edition consisting of
LibreOffice + extras; this would be done in Drupal in a different way,
with installation profiles not containing the Drupal name).

The Drupal policy is very complex anyway: http://drupal.com/trademark
And moreover, handling requests is quite a burden for Dries Buytaert
(the trademark holder), at about 100/year (89 in 11 months):
http://buytaert.net/drupal-trademark-policy-update-after-11-months

So it's good to have a policy but you have to spend a lot of resources
either to create a suitable one (you can use Drupal's as a starting
point, but it really needs to be adapted and discussed) or to handle
requests.


Fully agreed, and that should also be discussed with our packagers. Some 
of us have already spent hours, months if not years on this for OOo, 
André, Bernhard, René, Caolán, Cor, to name only some of them. So please 
make sure they are also in the discussion, their inputs will be really 
invaluable.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Italo,
On 30/12/2010 19:07, Italo Vignoli wrote:

On 12/30/2010 04:53 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote:


Fully agreed, and that should also be discussed with our packagers. Some
of us have already spent hours, months if not years on this for OOo,
André, Bernhard, René, Caolán, Cor, to name only some of them. So please
make sure they are also in the discussion, their inputs will be really
invaluable.


I will share the draft as quickly as I can, and in any case it is going
to be a basis for discussion.

Thanks Italo for your work on this, I've no doubt that you will be 
considerate of them :)


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Slogans

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Tom,
On 30/12/2010 13:41, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

Is there somewhere to see a list of proposed slogan's?  I prefer evolution to
revolution becuase people are talking about Cloud apps as being THE
revolution and that is scaring a lot of people.


Enter the revolution was the web banner we used for the first OOo 
websites. Maybe the German team has still examples of those banners 
somewhere on their cvs repo. So that might be confusing for some long 
time users if we use the same type of slogan.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] presentation templates for LibreOffice

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Cloph, Flo,
On 17/12/2010 19:13, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org  wrote:

Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2010-12-17 16.39:
[...]

Will they package it as extension? (I guess/hope so, since that way
they can display their Licence terms to the user in a standard
fashion, and installation/removal of the templates is easy for the
user as well)


I guess they don't know how that works. :-) If anyone wants to help, sure!


Packaging templates into an extension is actually a very easy task:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Non-code_extensions#Templates_Extensions

making the user accept a license:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/Extensions/Simple_License


Well, I guess that if everything is in German (registration, license 
approval, etc) it will be difficult for us to support their support ;-)


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[libreoffice-marketing] Features list

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,
[sorry for the cross post, but I need you all on this]

I've finished to complete the feature list [1] on the wiki that Marc did 
upload some time ago (Cor you get the same but not complete and not sorted).


So, dear developers if you preferred feature is not there, add it to the 
page or shout at me ;)


Dear QA members, please also, use this list against RC2 to test these 
new or enhanced functionalities. We will have more formal TCS next time, 
but, we need your help to make sure every thing is ok and there is no 
regression.


Dear marketing people, I'm sure Italo will give you some guidance on the 
most important ones at the marketing level, but may be you can make also 
some proposal and design a page so that he only has to review it.


Dear localizer, I hope this will help you to test/check your 
translation. If you need more details or don't find a functionality, 
don't hesitate to ask on the list.


And finally, dear documentation team, I'm sure we will soon have good 
knowledge on how to use those new and unavoidable features our 
developers have designed with the help of your nice writings :-)


I would like to thank every body for the great work that has been 
already done and will be done for our first version all together :-)


[1] 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/LibOReleaseEvents/LOPressKit/FeatureList3.3


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Regional LibO CD/DVD fulfillment

[Sophie Gautier]

On 10/12/2010 01:26, Marc Paré wrote:

Second part of exchange from dev list transferred here:

Le 2010-12-09 08:20, Sophie Gautier a écrit :
 
  If you would like, I can introduce Pierre-Yves to you, he is from
Framasoft and taking care currently to package the FramaKey described here:
  http://framakey.org/Pack/Framakey-Ubuntu (FR)
  http://framakey.org/En/Details (EN).
 
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I can see how a USB stick would be a more elegant way of distributing
the distro. The price would seem to be the only problem that I can see.
Framakey (Framasoft) is offering a 4gig stick for 19Euro and 4Eu
shipping. A smaller and less expensive stick could be offered with just
the LO distro on the stick. The cost would have to be kept as low as
possible. Framasoft carries the portable OOo, I imagine that they will
eventually carry the portable LibreOffice as well. I am not sure if he
has pronounced himself on this.

IMO, it would be best to try to foster communities where there is a very
low LibreOffice presence and from there encourage the creation of a
distribution system locally. Perhaps these groups would elect to use the
USB key format rather than CD/DVD.


So, I'm currently discussing it with Pierre-Yves as they have a project 
to deliver content directly to the Francophone countries. There is also 
some initiatives that may be used for sponsoring see :

http://www.inforoutes.francophonie.org/actualites/nouvelle.cfm?der_id=302type=accueil
and more generally the Organisation Internationale de la Francophonie. 
But I'll update the progress on our FR lists.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Regional LibO CD/DVD fulfillment

[Sophie Gautier]

On 10/12/2010 20:09, Benjamin Horst wrote:

So, I'm currently discussing it with Pierre-Yves as they have a
project to deliver content directly to the Francophone countries.
There is also some initiatives that may be used for sponsoring see
:

http://www.inforoutes.francophonie.org/actualites/nouvelle.cfm?der_id=302type=accueil




and more generally the Organisation Internationale de la Francophonie. 
But I'll update the progress on our FR lists.


Sophie,

Does the above link refer to possible grants from a government or
foundation? Something that could help cover the costs of distribution
by CD, DVD or other media? If so, that is a very promising avenue to
pursue.


Yes, it's a kind of foundation, it will need some work and we shouldn't 
take it for granted, but it's a very interesting possibility to bring 
software and contents where it's very difficult to get it. It has to be 
dedicated to education, peace, women education, etc.


In any case, the idea of sponsorships for free CDs mailed to new
users is worth considering. Perhaps sponsors would ask to advertise
on the exterior of the case the media is shipped within, in exchange
for covering the cost? (Netflix envelopes all include ads inside the
package, which must help defray their operating costs.)


Yes, may be, and I like that we consider it when possible.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] La Mouette Association Blog re: TDF and LibreOffice

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,
On 23/11/2010 12:39, Marc Paré wrote:

This note was posted on the user mailist:

==

Bonsoir à toutes et à tous,

Je vous invite à lire le communiqué de la Mouette concernant l'arrivée
de la Document Fondation.

http://www.lamouette.org/

Cordialement,


Pour le bureau
Marie jo Kopp Castinel
Secrétaire de la Mouette

==

The communiqué gives support to TDF and LibreOffice while still
supporting the OOo. Still a very kind gesture on their part. I suggested
in response that La Mouette Association add their name to the list of
TDF/LO supporters on the main site.

Maybe when Italo has time, he could send out a note to the association
thanking them on our part? Just a suggestion. Jean-Baptiste Faure, one
of the La Mouette founders, is on our French mailist.


No need for Italo to take this time, Charles has already done this and 
is discussing with them. Jean-Baptiste as the lead of the FR OOo project 
is a member of La Mouette board, as is Gilles Bignebat as co-lead.


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[libreoffice-marketing] Mageia to support LibreOffice

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

For information, see the blog from Anne today :)

http://blog.mageia.org/?p=190

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Logo Enhancements

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Hi Christoph,

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote:
 Hi Sophie, all!

 Sophie, thanks for answering this ... I tried to keep a minimum distance
 of 2m to my computer in the last 20 hours :-)

Thanks a lot for your answer and sorry to be a distance reducer this evening ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] BrOffice Guys?

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On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:32 AM, jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote:
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 On 11/07/2010 04:43 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:

 That might be a problem for the other product brandings

 * OOo4Kids;
 * OOoLight;
 * BrOffice;
 * LibreOffice;
 * OpenOffice.org;

 a) Which of those brandings would be likely to implement the proposed
 changes, and be negatively impacted by it;

OOo4Kids, OOoLight and OpenOffice.org won't implement any changes we
make. So, as Christoph said, to keep the story short, we are speaking
here of BrOffice :)

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[libreoffice-marketing] Facebook statistics

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

I'm receiving the Facebook statistics and wonder who wants to
advertise them, here they are this week :
1,526 monthly active users 443 since last week
2,118 people like this 212 since last week
43 wall posts and comments this week 18 since last week
1,541 visits this week 680 since last week

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Facebook statistics

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Florian,

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Monfort Florian
florian.monf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Le lundi 08 novembre 2010 à 20:53 +0100, Sophie Gautier a écrit :
 Hi all,

 I'm receiving the Facebook statistics and wonder who wants to
 advertise them, here they are this week :
 1,526 monthly active users 443 since last week
 2,118 people like this 212 since last week
 43 wall posts and comments this week 18 since last week
 1,541 visits this week 680 since last week

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 Maybe if my idea on the french mailing list of a french twitter account
 has success I will Tweet it ;)

LOL, please be insistant with French people, and if nobody react, be
as an open source citizen, do it yourself ;)
At least, you have my support :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Facebook statistics

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Hi Benjamin

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi Sophie,

 On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm receiving the Facebook statistics and wonder who wants to
 advertise them, here they are this week :
 1,526 monthly active users 443 since last week
 2,118 people like this 212 since last week
 43 wall posts and comments this week 18 since last week
 1,541 visits this week 680 since last week

 The growth here is very promising! Thanks for sharing.

 Is this for the TDF fan page, or the LibreOffice fan page?

It's for TDF page. If you like it, I can shager it evey weeks.

 To everyone: I reviewed Mozilla's approach to promote Firefox through 
 Facebook, and they have met with good success. Over time, I suggest we 
 analyze and adapt some of their approaches to build up LibO's Facebook 
 presence in the same way.

Great, thanks :)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Solution Linux 2011

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Hi Floriian,

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Hi Sophie,

 Sophie Gautier wrote on 2010-11-02 10.21:

 Just for information, I've subscribed our group to the next Solution
 Linux 2011 which will take place in Paris in April (5-7). We will have
 a booth and some conferences are possible.

 great news! Please also add that to the Events page in the wiki. ;)

Done :)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Can we put marketing titles under our names?

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Bernhard Dippold
bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:
[...]

 Definition of Community member becomes more and more important, so we
 should find a way to have an official list on the website (or on the wiki
 with locked content) stating their names and contributions.

There is a work on this done by Sebastian Spaeth, the listing for the
moment conerns developers and wiki contributors. Of course this is a
work in progress visible here:
http://libreoffice.org/credits.html

Kind regards
Sophie
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[libreoffice-marketing] French Gendarmerie migrating on Ubuntu

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

In case you miss it :)
http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/resources/case-studies/french-national-police-force-saves-%E2%82%AC2-million-year-ubuntu?sms_ss=twitterat_xt=4ccea3acab49d9,067

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Re: LibO Branding Colors (was: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming)

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Christoph

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote:
 Hi Jonathon!

 Am Freitag, den 22.10.2010, 22:19 + schrieb jonathon:
  I did the same, but used the LibreOffice colors (adding an ocher
 yellow for Draw)

 Which brings up the colour palette.  Has the Libre Colour Palette (or
 whatever it was called) been added to the standard palette for LibO?

 I have it on my system, but that is because I added it to my custom
 palette.

 Oh, nice question - I didn't even think about it :-) At the moment it is
 meant to be the LibreOffice branding color palette. So it focuses on
 some few branding related colors. It is not meant to replace the normal
 color palettes in LibO ... but as I said, I didn't even think about it.
 Once the colors are stable and proven, we might add it as an additional
 palette. Nice idea!

I've to check with Cédric but I think it was his idea to add them to
the palette.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Marc,

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 2010-10-21 00:51, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :

 Hi Marc,

 You should have a look at OOo Education Project and OOo4Kids fork.
 Whatever I think about forks ( ;-) ), OOo4Kids has several good ideas to
 adapt OOo to children. The main idea is not to add functions but to
 remove/hide the functions that are too complex or not used in
 educational context.

 Best regards.
 JBF

 PS. French speaking mailing lists are open :
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#French


 Bonjour Jean-Baptiste:

 Actually, I think there is a thread somewhere on the mailists where there
 was talk of theming the LibO suite and some of this could be used to
 theme the menu list.

 There was a debate as to when you could theme, either at installation or
 after installation. I would prefer after installation and an Educational
 Theme could be installed that would change the menus list and perhaps add
 more educationally related extensions, cliparts, themes etc.

 Obviously this would have to be coordinated with an interested dev.

 BTW ... Do you know if OOo4Kids is supporting the LibO project?

I would say no, but it's very difficult to know in fact (it mays
depend of the blowing wind ;). As you're able to read French, I'll
send you tomorrow some updated comments from Eric Bachard on several
forum this last days, you'll be able to make up your mind by yourself.
Of course, he can't bear several of us here, but that's not the topic.

Kind regards
Sophie

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