Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Reflections On Today's Meeting
Hi y'all, Mike Saunders wrote: > Yes, and we suspect (and have done some research) that a big chunk of those > donations-while-downloading are from users who've been using LibreOffice for > a while, and are downloading an update. (After all, someone trying > LibreOffice for the very first time is unlikely to donate, before knowing if > they want to continue using it.) > As a heads-up, Windows users will likely be getting fully automatic updates, starting with the 24.8 / summer version of LibreOffice [1]. The auto-updater mechanism includes an optional custom url, which LibreOffice will then open on restart after the upgrade. Perhaps worth pondering how to make use of that for good effect, given the above? Note that we assume that a lot of in particular Windows users are running older LibreOffice versions, with some reticence to update. Making the upgrade automatic, and showing a custom donation page, might therefore already show a measurable effect. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/24.2#Core_/_General and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Online_Update Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)
Mike Saunders wrote: > Of course, whatever we produce and bring has to be affordable, > transportable and environmentally friendly. Let us know your ideas > :-) > Beer/coffee mats are great, affordable & usually made from recycled paper, so that fits the bill. I had some company-branded chocolate at the conference, which proved to be a bit of a hit - with Belgium being somewhat of the world's hub for fine chocolate, perhaps that fits the bill (and could be sourced locally)? Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Moving to LibreOffice 8?
Hi y'all, Mike Saunders wrote: > Well, one argument is that we have very limited resources to support two > branches. LibreOffice 7.5 won't be around forever, so at some point we'll > need to push people to update to 7.6/8.0, as the previous version won't be > maintained and could potentially have security issues. > I know this is missing the point on purpose: but just to state that for the above problem, there's a technical solution called auto-update (which is on the tender project list since a while). > [means to an end] > > IMO, it's a lot like the whole "using proprietary services to reach users" > debate. Arguably, as a FOSS project, we should avoid closed platforms like > Twitter and Facebook. But we make a compromise and are active on those > platforms, because they are very effective for reaching new users and > communicating with them. > And I agree with that notion in general. The most obvious utilitarian argument this project is making, is to invest a ton of effort into supporting proprietary platforms like Windows and macOS, for our **main** user base. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Moving to LibreOffice 8?
Hi László, all, Németh László wrote: > The next release has already got major improvements. My favorites ( > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.6): > Two more in-progress features of, I believe, some importance: * theme support in Impress (Tomaž, Collabora) * multi-color gradients (Armin, allotropia) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Moving to LibreOffice 8?
Hi y'all, Uwe Altmann wrote: > Am 29.03.23 um 12:28 schrieb Clocked Modular: > > Is it an option to stick to 7 as long as there are no major changes? > > With a six monthly release plan it is not that easy to have major changes ;-) > Yes, I believe that's the important point. No single release of LibreOffice will ever have the massive pack of new features, that e.g. MSO major release have. In the past, we usually did the following: * look at the full version cycle (7.0 -> 7.5) as the field of change * favouring the spring release over the summer one (since gsoc usually provided a number of visible features) * or piggy-back on hard-to-plan events, like ODF releases One more reason to seriously consider year-based names, since it better matches our way of development. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-marketing] Fw: [Bug 134486] UI: Branding: LibreOffice Personal edition
I believe its useful to join the discussion threads somehow: - Forwarded message from bugzilla-dae...@bugs.documentfoundation.org - Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2020 08:43:22 + From: bugzilla-dae...@bugs.documentfoundation.org Subject: [Bug 134486] UI: Branding: LibreOffice Personal edition https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134486 --- Comment #73 from Timur --- New version of "strategic marketing plan" (modification date is 28.10.2020.) is at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/qPMWRFsxwQ6QFpK. Current situation seems to be unchanged in the nutshell. Slide 47 and 54 show previous position: ● LibreOffice TBD: forever free, only from TDF ● Tag: “supported by volunteers, suggested for use by individuals, small organizations and non profits/NGOs” ● Message: “you are using the volunteer supported version of LibreOffice, focused on needs of individual users” ● LibreOffice Enterprise: only from ecosystem members ● Tag: “professionally supported, suggested for production environments in enterprises and large organizations” ● Message: “you are using the ecosystem supported version of LibreOffice, focused on needs of enterprise users” We still have the same proposals, again forcing label: "Product Label for the community supported version provided by TDF (i.e. Personal or Community or other proposals)" "1. Label (no label is not an option)" "2. Where to position the label: title bar, about box, start center" What's written here seems a reality: all feedback and backlash is ignored. After all important issues raised here (like Statute preamble), they are not addressed in the new version. We are told to give more feedback vial marketing mail list, but I don't see why, why all what's written here would be ignored, when we have very important comments and commenter history in BZ can be seen, unlike in mail. It's rather offensive to tell folks who helped LO with their BZ contribution that what they've written so far is already ignored, that they need to subscribe to some mailing list to say the same again. Destructive Personal idea and suggestions of branding visible part of LO are still in force. Only explained is why not Community. Nowhere is explain what's the expected outcome, presumably that current company installations would switch to Enterprise. But was there a poll? I can say that in my case it will not surely be, those who decide will rather have LO removed (same as Comment 24 etc). Just will proponents of LO be blamed for using lesser value product. That idea seems to presume enlargement of Enterprise within the existing user base, and not from new users. So all "marketing" here is pressure on existing LO users! And that all comes when user are still confused with difference between OO and LO. I never understood - because marketing plan doesn't explain, just claims, why not be positive and rework Download page (now it's just a single Download now, not mentioning option to get enterprise version), why annoy long-time users and contributors with attacking their use. I also never understood why destroying of LO common name is needed to reach out to NGO and govs. No, that in marketing plan is just a talk to obscure name change. Only now is "Work from Home" so pervasive. Nice catch, just go ahead with that marketing, no need to change name. I'd rather see a good comparison of LO offer vs. MS and OnlyOffice and WPS. Current LO is easy to deploy via MSI and PPA. Not sure if that - not branding - should and could be changed to indicate that deployment is not supported from simple download, unless an organization builds LO themselves or purchases that. Changed and arguably improved in new version is "discussion and vote limited to TDF Members" per slide 55. Previously TDF Members only saw Personal when testing LO 7.0, which really was the wrong way to start discussion. But again, why direct TDF Members to Marketing mail list, when we already receive many mails. But no response to some question. Speaking of TDF in general, and referring to mail to TDF-internal where I asked this and got no reply: I'm not clear about the status of Online and Android. As a Member, I get mails, but I don't see it explained - or I missed it. Like we all know all, which is not the case, so finally I don't know the exact status. Actually, there are already many regular mails informing of agenda of Board etc, but none which explained key problems with Online and Android. When I asked, I just got Collabora explanation in the mail and web (showing they have clear position), but not from TDF like it has no it's own standpoint. Maybe I didn't read Marketing plan well or it doesn't approach these questions in the way I'd find appropriate. So I don't know: is moving the Online repository outside of the LibreOffice project done or will be, is it the code from TDF, what's the licence, was it on TDF servers or not, does this really mean "move" or
[libreoffice-marketing] Update regime for Store versions (was: Question regarding Microsoft Store download of Vanilla Libreoffice)
Hi Drew, Drew Jensen wrote: > Excellent - is this switch from one major release to the next during on the > third minor release to be an expected pattern? > Mmh - wouldn't want to enshrine that just _yet_. ;) For the store, as we push mandatory updates (such that people who donated once keep getting their security fixes), there comes the time when we _need_ to major-upgrade ~everyone. Right now, the number of users from the Windows store is low, so we can experiment a bit perhaps. There's four options that I currently see: 1. publish every major update as a completely new product (which would currently mean that people need to pay again - or risk running unmaintained versions) 2. switch everyone with a forced update to the new major version on day one 3. switch everyone with a forced update to the new major version at some suitable later date (as happened here) 4. switch everyone with a forced update to the latest major version at the time the still version becomes EOLed There's potentially more nuances (keeping a major update optional for a while), but that's a bit in flux currently, what the Store allows technically. I did consider option 3 a good compromise between end-user and project needs, so opted for that. But the project might want to consider other regimes (or we could test them out). There's also perhaps a bit of a risk contradicting our still/fresh release branding too much on the stores. > Thorsten Behrens wrote: > > We're now shipping all available langs with the Store App. If there's > > still issues with e.g. French users to obtain the version, please let > > me know! > > > > Sounds like big news. Will there be a press release, or other, public > statement from CIB on that? > I was about to post to SM about this change but if there is one coming I'll > hold off til I can point to something from CIB. > Nah, please fire away! It's more of a bugfix in my mind (though the package size is really quite a bit more bulky than the original MSI...). Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Question regarding Microsoft Store download of Vanilla Libreoffice
Hi William, all, a quick update - after getting 6.3.5 finally shepherded through a while ago, we've now switched to the 6.4 series, with currently 6.4.3 being available in the Windows Store. William Gathoye (LibreOffice) wrote: > - LibreOffice Vanilla is only available in English and German, other > languages are absent from the interfaces and from the options. The > Microsoft account he uses is well defined in French (France) and the > Windows he uses is using the same language > We're now shipping all available langs with the Store App. If there's still issues with e.g. French users to obtain the version, please let me know! > - LibreOffice Vanilla is reported as a 32-bit app by the Windows Task > Manager. > Yeap, that's a reasonable common denominator. We're looking into providing a joint offering with x64 as well (and not blowing size limits). > - And lastly, even if you said new version are not available yet > (because of holidays), the version I have access to hasn't been updated > since 2019-07-22 according to the Microsoft Store. It's weird it is > displaying "Release date" rather than "Last update date" and the > LibreOffice version is missing from the description, how come? Is this a > restriction from Microsoft? > Yep. The version number in the package we ship to Microsoft is always faithfully reporting the actual LibreOffice release (minus the micro release - e.g. current version has "6.4.3.0"). All the best, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Question regarding Microsoft Store download of Vanilla Libreoffice
Hi William, William Gathoye (LibreOffice) wrote: > - LibreOffice Vanilla is only available in English and German, other > languages are absent from the interfaces and from the options. The > Microsoft account he uses is well defined in French (France) and the > Windows he uses is using the same language > Thx for that feedback! I'll look into it - there's no good reason LibreOffice from the store shouldn't have the same number of languages than from libreoffice.org. > - LibreOffice Vanilla is reported as a 32-bit app by the Windows Task > Manager. > Yes, that's on purpose. We're currently offering _one_ version there, and there's still quite a few users only able to run 32bit software. > - And lastly, even if you said new version are not available yet > (because of holidays), the version I have access to hasn't been updated > since 2019-07-22 according to the Microsoft Store. It's weird it is > displaying "Release date" rather than "Last update date" and the > LibreOffice version is missing from the description, how come? Is this a > restriction from Microsoft? > Heh - that's the initial release date of the product - the version currently available is 6.3.3.2; 6.3.4.2 is sadly stuck in the review queue. With regard to general feedback - I wonder how the community would feel about various options, e.g. directing users to askbot, or bugzilla, or telegram? Clearly twitter is not a scalable way to file bug reports. ;) All the best, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Question regarding Microsoft Store download of Vanilla Libreoffice
Hi Drew, Drew Jensen wrote: > Really my question just comes down to how I should read one sentence in the > CIB press release. > and > Other than that I was curious as to which version of LO would come > with Vanilla and I take it from your reply that today this would be > 6.3.3; so may I take it the general answer is, Vanilla from the MS > Store is the current Fresh release? > Yes, that one; and that includes minor updates (as long as TDF does them). :) In general, app stores add a layer of convenience, where especially minor updates are easy & almost invisible to users. The downside is that users then don't tend to visit libreoffice.org for updates; therefore are not seeing the options for donation; therefore the upfront price tag in lieu of donation. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Question regarding Microsoft Store download of Vanilla Libreoffice
Hi Drew, Drew Jensen wrote: > Are there any automatic updates with the Vanilla LibreOffice $9.99 > package? > Indeed, we're updating LibreOffice Vanilla (more or less) in lock-step with the TDF releases. Unfortunately 6.3.4 is not yet available, due to a smallish validation issue & vacation time. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOfficeFR community - Request for presentation at FOSDEM hackfest
Hey William, William Gathoye (LibreOffice) wrote: > I'm very pleased to announce that today LibreOfficeFR overtook > LibreOfficeBR in terms of followers on Twitter: reaching nearly 3000 > followers and 12 000 tweets published. LibreOfficeFR is now the first > native language community on Twitter just behind @LibreOffice. :) > Congrats for that achievement! I'm sure that just the first of many reasons to celebrate in 2020! :) > This is why I was asking if at the FOSDEM hackfest, I can give[2] you a > 25 minutes public presentation about this and *WHEN* during the 2 days?[3] > > Having as much person of the current board and board elected people > would be nice to have (since the next board is taking office on Feb 12th > after FOSDEM IIRC). > Sadly will (very likely) not be able to attend FOSDEM past Sunday - but would still be *very much* interested in those slides, if you can share them? All the best, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Linux Magazine LibreOffice special -- copies to give away
Hi Mike, Mike Saunders wrote: > I think we should try to get the magazines into the hands of new > users, and people who aren't aware of LibreOffice. (Instead of, say, > just handing them out at Linux/FOSS events, where some people may > take them as freebies, but never really look into them.) > Yep - giving them away like stickers would be a waste - then again, I think they're generally a great thing to have at events, if even for people to leaf through them while waiting to get their questions answered at a booth. >From the target audience, I think they're not ideally suited for the absolute newbie to LibreOffice, but more for existing users. Perhaps simply getting a few copies sent to each of our native lang teams (where an English magazine would make sense), and leaving it to them how to best put them to good use? Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice stickers to unixstickers.com?
Hi, just got poked on IRC today - can we somehow upload/make available LibreOffice sticker designs from https://www.unixstickers.com/ ? Note that I don't know the page, nor vet it - just thought that the idea is valid, like we have tshirts & mugs available on order, too. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Updates / design ideas for hackfest & mini-conf flyers?
Hi guys, there's some preps & planning under way to have a hackfest combined probably with a Spanish mini-conference in April: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibreOffice_Espania_Summit , and it would be cool to have some flyers to distribute at the local university. The wiki has a gallery of existing flyers (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Gallery_Flyers), should we simply reuse one there -- e.g. the one from the Hamburg hackfest -- or would someone be able to create a new design, using the refreshed logos etc? Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libo-marketing-priv] BoD Newsletter
Italo Vignoli wrote: Draft of BoD newsletter attached. Will be distributed at the end of the month. Please add whatever you consider relevant. Hi Italo, reads great to me - maybe add items that are not really news, but would benefit from some more publicity, like open job postings or tenders? Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Fw: 14 February 2015 - I love Free Software Day
Hi, FYI - sounds ideal for spreading on social networks shortly before. :) - Forwarded message from Matthias Kirschner m...@fsfe.org - Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 17:24:03 +0100 From: Matthias Kirschner m...@fsfe.org Subject: 14 February 2015 - I love Free Software Day Dear all, I am quite sure many of you receive a lot of bug reports, feature requests or criticism during the whole year. Sometimes people forget to thank others for their good work. So for this Saturday, 14 February 2015, we again ask people around the globe to show their love to the people behind Free Software (=you, too). We made some suggestions here (available in 8 languages): https://fsfe.org/news/2015/news-20150209-01.html and we would be thankful if you can spread this to your communities, and thereby motivate other Free Software contributors to continue their good work [1]. Feel free to order some postcards, leaflets, or posters for your office on https://fsfe.org/contribute/spreadtheword.en.html#ilovefs-campaign or use our graphics https://fsfe.org/campaigns/ilovefs/artwork/artwork.html. I hope many of you will receive a nice thank you note, a picture https://fsfe.org/campaigns/ilovefs/whylovefs/gallery.en.html, a drink, some chocolate, a hug, or other cool signs of appreciation. You earned it! And I hope that you also have some time to thank others. Thank you all for your work! Matthias 1. On 15 February you can write the next bug report ;) -- Matthias Kirschner - Vice President FSFE Schönhauser Allee 6/7, 10119 Berlin, t +49-30-27595290 Weblog (blogs.fsfe.org/mk) - Contact (fsfe.org/about/kirschner) Receive monthly Free Software news (fsfe.org/news/newsletter.html) Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate) - End forwarded message - Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Key signing party in Bern, how to participate
Sophie Gautier wrote: The local organization team in Bern, namely Pete Stephenson and Jean-Louis Fuchs, are handling a key signing party during the LibreOffice conference in Bern (the date will be soon on the site). That's awesome, kudos to Pete and Jean-Louis! Looking forward to meet a FOSDEM-like queue there! :) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] USB 'card' draft content for CeBIT
Hi, Thomas came up with the really nice idea to produce a chunk of USB 'business cards' (instead of usb thumbdrives) for the upcoming CeBIT, which provide some space for marketing content. Current draft is here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Bildmuster_USB_Stick_Kreditkarte.PNG , would be great to get feedback for text wording of the front matter (preferably from English native speakers, and possibly a separate English back side). Thanks a lot, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] anyone working on a LibOCon 2013 presentation template yet?
Hi there, with the conference four weeks out, anyone able to quickly whip up a presentation template? Or maybe there is one already, and I missed it in the wiki? Thanks a lot, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/Design for Tshirt(s)
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Cor Nouws and Thorsten Behrens. Actually Kendy - let me fwd separately. :) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice stickers - proposal for odering
Cor Nouws wrote: Jean Weber wrote (17-05-13 22:35) I want at least 1,000 of the Love stickers (110x25) for OSCON, to be shipped to an address in the USA. I'll need them by 19 July. So I hope we can get a budget for them. I'll try my best and am confident that we can do it in time ;) Would mid-June for the Hamburg Hackfest be possible, too? ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Swag/Merchandise Bulk Purchase?
Robinson Tryon wrote: Great! If you get designs finalized for those, please do poke board-discuss - I guess there is some universal need for that. Can I add Rollups, that's always cool for setting up booth w/o knowing if there is a wall to hang a poster to? Sure thing. We're mostly focused on prize-type items for the Triage Contest, but I'll be happy to add Rollups to the quote list. Is anyone in US-Marketing considering a purchase of these (or similar) items in the next few months? We're thinking that for shipping reasons we'd want to source items locally in both Europe and the US. If you're interested in purchasing 5 or 500 items, we'd definitely be interested in pooling our resources for the task. Right, and thanks for your initiative! So, just noticing I had chatted with one girl at Berlin LinuxTag last year, and she does bulk orders for her swag shop there - and everything that's left over, the projects then can obtain for nice prices. This is a bit urgent, since she needs some lead time, on the other hand, it does not per se create costs for us - quite the contrary, we'll have swag available at one of the bigger FLOSS events in Germany. Should I offer her our FOSDEM tshirt design for that? If we want left-overs, how much would we want to spend for it (given the stuff would be in Europe)? Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0
Florian Effenberger wrote: Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2013-01-28 17:42: * Are you a keynote master? We have something for your Android smartphone... Thorsten poked me on a similar thought a few days ago, stating that this specific tool might NOT be ready with 4.0. So, we should be cautious and check back with the developers first... The story with the Impress remote currently is, that bluetooth controlling only works against a Linux LibreOffice. Whether that is enough for being a headline feature I don't know - just that I personally love that little thing. ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] FOSDEM photo reminders
Marc Paré wrote: If you do these, make sure you get people's permission so that we can use the video on marketing campaigns both on internet and any other media. For video, this is of course best done by filming the consent. To be on the safe side, we need a similar statement for the photos. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Messaging for the 4.0
Marc Paré wrote: Thorsten: Do you know if the Win and IOS versions are being worked on actively? Win: code is there, but needs some love. Mac: some code on my disk, unknown amount of work to get it to fly. iOS devices: no app whatsoever yet, the remote client is exclusively Android for the while. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Call TODAY
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: This call is only about a follow-up on the 4.0 launch preparation. (so no specific agenda, we just need updates and decisions). Hi Charles, thx for running this - I'll try to attend, if there's any questions regarding development. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice for smartphones
Florian Effenberger wrote: that was me, and it was about the LibreOffice Impress Remote for Android. IMHO, this one will be ready with 4.0 and allows controlling the presentation from an Android device. We definitely should emphasize this often and loud. :-) Please check back with the devs before making too bold a statement - this thing works, but e.g. not equally well on all platforms. FWICT, there are at least these gaps still: - no BT support on Mac yet - no Android market account for TDF yet, via which we could publish this - speaker notes feature not up to snuff quite yet, pondering to hide that - and it didn't get much test coverage yet Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Wishlist
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le dimanche 14 octobre 2012 à 10:11 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : I would like to suggest to prepare kits for under-serviced regions where LibreOffice has not made any inroads. The kits could contain the following (localized (language) versions where applicable): Yep, and that's exactly what other projects do, too. I know e.g. Gnome has a number of Peli Cases, containing the above, that can be FedEx-ed around the world, for community members to setup a booth. Cheers, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Mailing list statistics for 2012-10-08
Hi Florian, and below the stats for the lists hosted at freedesktop.org: Listaddress Subscribers Posts +-+ libreoffice-ux-adv...@lists.freedesktop.org67 1432 libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org 3879462 libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org 93 2758 libreoffice-comm...@lists.freedesktop.org 2936665 libreoffice-rele...@lists.freedesktop.org 18 33 libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org 69439567 +-+ All lists 939 159917 Cheers, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Defining a marketing strategy
Jean Weber wrote: Anyone can do the same: have a plan and a proposal and apply to Friends for money if TDF doesn't have (or doesn't approve) funding. Hi Jean, and a very big thank you to the Friends here - TDF much appreciates their (and others) help in funding our common cause. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Draft Conference PR
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Their reason is that in order to avoid any friction, ODF plugfests should take place in neutral venues, for instance not in LibreOffice Conference or AOO conferences. Like the 2009er plugfest at the Orvieto OOoCon? ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Trip report Berlin townhall reception
Hi there, this is a quick report from an event Mike and I have participated in Thursday last week - TDF got invited to a Berlin townhall reception, out to all newly-established foundations from the last 12 months. The reception was formally hosted by Berlin's mayor, represented by his undersecretary of state. Setup was extra-posh, local press around with two ladies, taking pictures, cello solist interludes, fine food drinks. Various addresses by officials, interspersed with brilliant cello music. A total of five foundations got hand-picked to briefly introduce themselves on stage, TDF one of them - it seems we represented the innovative flavour, the other being social, medicine, music, and arts. Got a wonderful introduction by the reception host, who seemed to have really spent some time looking at our public pages (and effectively extended our own 7 minute marketing sprint with his 3 minutes). Afterwards chatted with all sundry, handed out stickers business cards left and right. Mentioned LibOCon dates on stage, and to everybody listening on the floor later. That said, we can possibly do even better next time, since: - those events are perfect for handing out DVDs / flyers (e.g. one of the other foundations managed to hand out a professionally-produced folded leaflet, printed double-sided, 5 pages in total - including donation / participation information - fundraising - getting a concise message of *what* we do to benefit society + our bank account number is what needs to be spread there - for people formally representing TDF, would be nice to have a TDF-branded business card template somewhere available (I think Italo showed a very nice sample at LinuxTag) After that, we briefly went over to a Flattr meetup happening at the same day. Met some local blogging / hacktivist celebrities, and had the opportunity to chat with Flattr founders engineers. * reportedly the all-average flattr click is worth ~1 EUR, would be good verifying that applies to us, too * if yes, and since Flattr is rather low-threshold, we could possibly stick Flattr buttons on more pages. (tangentially, it seems https://flattr.com/thing/149926/The-Document-Foundation-Challenge could benefit from some love / updated texts ;)) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Next year: opportunity for professional silk-screen LibreOffice swag production
Hi there, while at LinuxTag last weekend, I chatted with the girl, running the resident swag shop there, nicely located at the main entrance / exit aisle. Her deal is to produce real silk-screened cotton prints (on http://www.basic-wear-gmbh.de/ basics currently), sell them at the venue rather affordably, and afterwards hand over the remaining stock to the projects for her base price (which is low, due to the volume she buys). Something to ponder at least I think. She asks for some 6 weeks advance notice, I'll stick that to my calendar just in case. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice developer digest
Cor Nouws wrote: Now the routing is clear, I hope I can do it fast and regularly. Looking in the git-commits is something I do anyway. Wow, nice work - thanks so much for taking over! Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice developer digest
Hi there, yeah, $subject is not new, but I thought I would run this idea past you folks here again. ;) It would be just wonderful, if we could have a weekly digest on the TDF blog highlighting what has happened in developer land, in layman's terms. Examples of what I have in mind: * http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/2012/03/11/issue-179/#more-624 * http://dot.kde.org/2011/01/16/kde-commit-digest-12th-december-2010 * http://lwn.net/Articles/493324/ (ok, I admit, the last one is quite a stretch target) This would provide nice raw material for upcoming release notes, create visibility for cool new developments, and keeps users and QA community informed. Petr was posting nice script-generated summaries before, but that's possibly too fine-grained / low-level for a blog: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-March/028252.html Anyway, what do you think? I'll quite possibly not have the cycles to do it myself, but I happily volunteer to review or facilitate, if someone steps up for that. :) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Hi David - always helps to Cc people you address, otherwise things may linger in my inbox for a while, depending on where I focus on. David Nelson wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: I know that the PostgreSQL developers are interested in closer integration with OOo from direct talks with them and we will be looking at this in more detail and we have realistic chances of getting significant funding resources. This sounds like one possible good move for LibreOffice: Base as as a front end and PostgreSQL as the engine at the back. Just get the postgresql connector working, and included into the Oracle SGA grant. Code old-ish may need minor tweaks. Base has always been reasonably backend-agnostic. Although, like Tom, I'd love to see TDF get something moving with Google (one of our supporters, no?) and work on Google Docs integration. What does GDocs have to do with Base specifically? Michael, Thorsten, could you maybe explain to us what the problems and prerequisites would be for the above? No real probs there - only that all of this is not addressing Base core development. ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Release of 3.4.3 due on Wednesday - someone wanna draft a blog/announcement?
Hi there, this is a heads-up that, barring any showstoppers found, we plan to release 3.4.3 on Wednesday. Would someone be willing to draft a blog/announcement message, e.g. based on http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/08/17/libreoffice-3-3-4-is-ready-for-download/ or http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/08/01/libreoffice-3-4-2-for-enterprise-users/ ? Thanks a lot, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted
Hi there, so it seems Andreas the team made great progress with the extension website, and ask for more broader testing / playing with it. Anyone here wanting to draft some blog post announcing it to the wider public? Links: - http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Extensions_Repository - http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/ I understand that content submitted now will be kept when the final site goes live, hopefully that encourages contribution. :) Thanks a lot, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreGraphics Meeting
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: a friend of Florian and mine pointed us to a quite unique event in the FLOSS world, the LibreGraphics Meeting (http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org) . The 2011 edition just ended but since we do have a graphics application (Draw), it could be interesting to join that event. Any volunteers? We can connect you with the event organizers. I usually attent the LGM, when it's in Europe, and there were folks even using Writer for artistic work. Beyond the libre theme, there are many potential areas for technical cooperation, including clip arts, swatch books, color selection and calibration, and much more. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] branding colors - missmatch
Christoph Noack wrote: There is still another problem. You desided to use a Vegur-font as a standard font. Unfortunatly this font does not have all nessessary characters (f.e. no ä, ü, ö, ß) - so it is not possible to use this font for text. This was not a very good idea Let's say, given the time and opportunity, it was okay to go with this font (in my opinion). Thus, we knew that problems in advance, but since it is rather neutral, substitutes for remaining text should work well. Unless someone beats me to it - at least äüö and other diacritical marks should be trivially addable with fontforge or somesuch, no? Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***