Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Reflections On Today's Meeting

2024-01-18 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi y'all,

Mike Saunders wrote:
> Yes, and we suspect (and have done some research) that a big chunk of those
> donations-while-downloading are from users who've been using LibreOffice for
> a while, and are downloading an update. (After all, someone trying
> LibreOffice for the very first time is unlikely to donate, before knowing if
> they want to continue using it.)
> 
As a heads-up, Windows users will likely be getting fully automatic
updates, starting with the 24.8 / summer version of LibreOffice [1].

The auto-updater mechanism includes an optional custom url, which
LibreOffice will then open on restart after the upgrade. Perhaps worth
pondering how to make use of that for good effect, given the above?

Note that we assume that a lot of in particular Windows users are
running older LibreOffice versions, with some reticence to
update. Making the upgrade automatic, and showing a custom donation
page, might therefore already show a measurable effect.

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/24.2#Core_/_General
and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Online_Update

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)

2023-12-19 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Mike Saunders wrote:
> Of course, whatever we produce and bring has to be affordable,
> transportable and environmentally friendly. Let us know your ideas
> :-)
>
Beer/coffee mats are great, affordable & usually made from recycled
paper, so that fits the bill.

I had some company-branded chocolate at the conference, which proved
to be a bit of a hit - with Belgium being somewhat of the world's hub
for fine chocolate, perhaps that fits the bill (and could be sourced
locally)?

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

2023-04-07 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi y'all,

Mike Saunders wrote:
> Well, one argument is that we have very limited resources to support two
> branches. LibreOffice 7.5 won't be around forever, so at some point we'll
> need to push people to update to 7.6/8.0, as the previous version won't be
> maintained and could potentially have security issues.
> 
I know this is missing the point on purpose: but just to state that
for the above problem, there's a technical solution called auto-update
(which is on the tender project list since a while).

> [means to an end]
>
> IMO, it's a lot like the whole "using proprietary services to reach users"
> debate. Arguably, as a FOSS project, we should avoid closed platforms like
> Twitter and Facebook. But we make a compromise and are active on those
> platforms, because they are very effective for reaching new users and
> communicating with them.
> 
And I agree with that notion in general. The most obvious utilitarian
argument this project is making, is to invest a ton of effort into
supporting proprietary platforms like Windows and macOS, for our
**main** user base.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Moving to LibreOffice 8?

2023-03-31 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi László, all,

Németh László wrote:
> The next release has already got major improvements. My favorites (
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.6):
> 
Two more in-progress features of, I believe, some importance:

* theme support in Impress (Tomaž, Collabora)
* multi-color gradients (Armin, allotropia)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

2023-03-31 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi y'all,

Uwe Altmann wrote:
> Am 29.03.23 um 12:28 schrieb Clocked Modular:
> > Is it an option to stick to 7 as long as there are no major changes?
> 
> With a six monthly release plan it is not that easy to have major changes ;-)
> 
Yes, I believe that's the important point. No single release of
LibreOffice will ever have the massive pack of new features, that
e.g. MSO major release have.

In the past, we usually did the following:
* look at the full version cycle (7.0 -> 7.5) as the field of change
* favouring the spring release over the summer one (since gsoc usually
  provided a number of visible features)
* or piggy-back on hard-to-plan events, like ODF releases

One more reason to seriously consider year-based names, since it
better matches our way of development.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Fw: [Bug 134486] UI: Branding: LibreOffice Personal edition

2020-11-06 Thread Thorsten Behrens
I believe its useful to join the discussion threads somehow:

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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2020 08:43:22 +
From: bugzilla-dae...@bugs.documentfoundation.org
Subject: [Bug 134486] UI: Branding: LibreOffice Personal edition

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134486

--- Comment #73 from Timur  ---
New version of "strategic marketing plan" (modification date is 28.10.2020.) is
at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/qPMWRFsxwQ6QFpK. Current
situation seems to be unchanged in the nutshell. Slide 47 and 54 show previous
position: 
● LibreOffice TBD: forever free, only from TDF
● Tag: “supported by volunteers, suggested for use by individuals,
small organizations and non profits/NGOs”
● Message: “you are using the volunteer supported version of
LibreOffice, focused on needs of individual users”
● LibreOffice Enterprise: only from ecosystem members
● Tag: “professionally supported, suggested for production environments
in enterprises and large organizations”
● Message: “you are using the ecosystem supported version of
LibreOffice, focused on needs of enterprise users”

We still have the same proposals, again forcing label: 
"Product Label for the community supported version provided by TDF (i.e.
Personal or Community or other proposals)" 
"1. Label (no label is not an option)" 
"2. Where to position the label: title bar, about box, start center"

What's written here seems a reality: all feedback and backlash is ignored. 
After all important issues raised here (like Statute preamble), they are not
addressed in the new version. 
We are told to give more feedback vial marketing mail list, but I don't see
why, why all what's written here would be ignored, when we have very important
comments and commenter history in BZ can be seen, unlike in mail. 
It's rather offensive to tell folks who helped LO with their BZ contribution
that what they've written so far is already ignored, that they need to
subscribe to some mailing list to say the same again.

Destructive Personal idea and suggestions of branding visible part of LO are
still in force. Only explained is why not Community. 
Nowhere is explain what's the expected outcome, presumably that current company
installations would switch to Enterprise. But was there a poll? I can say that
in my case it will not surely be, those who decide will rather have LO removed
(same as Comment 24 etc). Just will proponents of LO be blamed for using lesser
value product. 
That idea seems to presume enlargement of Enterprise within the existing user
base, and not from new users. So all "marketing" here is pressure on existing
LO users! 
And that all comes when user are still confused with difference between OO and
LO.

I never understood - because marketing plan doesn't explain, just claims, why
not be positive and rework Download page (now it's just a single Download now,
not mentioning option to get enterprise version), why annoy long-time users and
contributors with attacking their use. 
I also never understood why destroying of LO common name is needed to reach out
to NGO and govs. No, that in marketing plan is just a talk to obscure name
change. Only now is "Work from Home" so pervasive. Nice catch, just go ahead
with that marketing, no need to change name. I'd rather see a good comparison
of LO offer vs. MS and OnlyOffice and WPS. 

Current LO is easy to deploy via MSI and PPA. Not sure if that - not branding -
should and could be changed to indicate that deployment is not supported from
simple download, unless an organization builds LO themselves or purchases that. 

Changed and arguably improved in new version is "discussion and vote limited to
TDF Members" per slide 55. Previously TDF Members only saw Personal when
testing LO 7.0, which really was the wrong way to start discussion.
But again, why direct TDF Members to Marketing mail list, when we already
receive many mails. But no response to some question.

Speaking of TDF in general, and referring to mail to TDF-internal where I asked
this and got no reply: I'm not clear about the status of Online and Android. As
a Member, I get mails, but I don't see it explained - or I missed it. Like we
all know all, which is not the case, so finally I don't know the exact status. 
Actually, there are already many regular mails informing of agenda of Board
etc, but none which explained key problems with Online and Android. When I
asked, I just got Collabora explanation in the mail and web (showing they have
clear position), but not from TDF like it has no it's own standpoint. 

Maybe I didn't read Marketing plan well or it doesn't approach these questions
in the way I'd find appropriate. So I don't know: is moving the Online
repository outside of the LibreOffice project done or will be, is it the code
from TDF, what's the licence, was it on TDF servers or not, does this really
mean "move" or 

[libreoffice-marketing] Update regime for Store versions (was: Question regarding Microsoft Store download of Vanilla Libreoffice)

2020-05-04 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Drew,

Drew Jensen wrote:
> Excellent - is this switch from one major release to the next during on the
> third minor release to be an expected pattern?
>
Mmh - wouldn't want to enshrine that just _yet_. ;)

For the store, as we push mandatory updates (such that people who
donated once keep getting their security fixes), there comes the time
when we _need_ to major-upgrade ~everyone.

Right now, the number of users from the Windows store is low, so we
can experiment a bit perhaps. There's four options that I currently
see:

1. publish every major update as a completely new product (which would
   currently mean that people need to pay again - or risk running
   unmaintained versions)
2. switch everyone with a forced update to the new major version on
   day one
3. switch everyone with a forced update to the new major version at
   some suitable later date (as happened here)
4. switch everyone with a forced update to the latest major version at
   the time the still version becomes EOLed

There's potentially more nuances (keeping a major update optional for
a while), but that's a bit in flux currently, what the Store allows
technically.

I did consider option 3 a good compromise between end-user and project
needs, so opted for that. But the project might want to consider other
regimes (or we could test them out). There's also perhaps a bit of a
risk contradicting our still/fresh release branding too much on the
stores.

> Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> > We're now shipping all available langs with the Store App. If there's
> > still issues with e.g. French users to obtain the version, please let
> > me know!
> >
> 
> Sounds like big news. Will there be a press release, or other, public
> statement from CIB on that?
> I was about to post to SM about this change but if there is one coming I'll
> hold off til I can point to something from CIB.
> 
Nah, please fire away! It's more of a bugfix in my mind (though the
package size is really quite a bit more bulky than the original
MSI...).

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Question regarding Microsoft Store download of Vanilla Libreoffice

2020-04-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi William, all,

a quick update - after getting 6.3.5 finally shepherded through a
while ago, we've now switched to the 6.4 series, with currently 6.4.3
being available in the Windows Store.

William Gathoye (LibreOffice) wrote:
> - LibreOffice Vanilla is only available in English and German, other
> languages are absent from the interfaces and from the options. The
> Microsoft account he uses is well defined in French (France) and the
> Windows he uses is using the same language
> 
We're now shipping all available langs with the Store App. If there's
still issues with e.g. French users to obtain the version, please let
me know!

> - LibreOffice Vanilla is reported as a 32-bit app by the Windows Task
> Manager.
> 
Yeap, that's a reasonable common denominator. We're looking into
providing a joint offering with x64 as well (and not blowing size
limits).

> - And lastly, even if you said new version are not available yet
> (because of holidays), the version I have access to hasn't been updated
> since 2019-07-22 according to the Microsoft Store. It's weird it is
> displaying "Release date" rather than "Last update date" and the
> LibreOffice version is missing from the description, how come? Is this a
> restriction from Microsoft?
> 
Yep. The version number in the package we ship to Microsoft is always
faithfully reporting the actual LibreOffice release (minus the micro
release - e.g. current version has "6.4.3.0").

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Question regarding Microsoft Store download of Vanilla Libreoffice

2020-01-15 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi William,

William Gathoye (LibreOffice) wrote:
> - LibreOffice Vanilla is only available in English and German, other
> languages are absent from the interfaces and from the options. The
> Microsoft account he uses is well defined in French (France) and the
> Windows he uses is using the same language
> 
Thx for that feedback! I'll look into it - there's no good reason
LibreOffice from the store shouldn't have the same number of languages
than from libreoffice.org.

> - LibreOffice Vanilla is reported as a 32-bit app by the Windows Task
> Manager.
> 
Yes, that's on purpose. We're currently offering _one_ version there,
and there's still quite a few users only able to run 32bit software.

> - And lastly, even if you said new version are not available yet
> (because of holidays), the version I have access to hasn't been updated
> since 2019-07-22 according to the Microsoft Store. It's weird it is
> displaying "Release date" rather than "Last update date" and the
> LibreOffice version is missing from the description, how come? Is this a
> restriction from Microsoft?
> 
Heh - that's the initial release date of the product - the version
currently available is 6.3.3.2; 6.3.4.2 is sadly stuck in the review
queue.

With regard to general feedback - I wonder how the community would
feel about various options, e.g. directing users to askbot, or
bugzilla, or telegram? Clearly twitter is not a scalable way to file
bug reports. ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Question regarding Microsoft Store download of Vanilla Libreoffice

2020-01-08 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Drew,

Drew Jensen wrote:
> Really my question just comes down to how I should read one sentence in the
> CIB press release.
>
and

> Other than that I was curious as to which version of LO would come
> with Vanilla and I take it from your reply that today this would be
> 6.3.3; so may I take it the general answer is, Vanilla from the MS
> Store is the current Fresh release?
>
Yes, that one; and that includes minor updates (as long as TDF does
them). :)

In general, app stores add a layer of convenience, where especially
minor updates are easy & almost invisible to users. The downside is
that users then don't tend to visit libreoffice.org for updates;
therefore are not seeing the options for donation; therefore the
upfront price tag in lieu of donation.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Question regarding Microsoft Store download of Vanilla Libreoffice

2020-01-05 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Drew,

Drew Jensen wrote:
> Are there any automatic updates with the Vanilla LibreOffice $9.99
> package?
>
Indeed, we're updating LibreOffice Vanilla (more or less) in lock-step
with the TDF releases. Unfortunately 6.3.4 is not yet available, due
to a smallish validation issue & vacation time.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOfficeFR community - Request for presentation at FOSDEM hackfest

2020-01-05 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hey William,

William Gathoye (LibreOffice) wrote:
> I'm very pleased to announce that today LibreOfficeFR overtook
> LibreOfficeBR in terms of followers on Twitter: reaching nearly 3000
> followers and 12 000 tweets published. LibreOfficeFR is now the first
> native language community on Twitter just behind @LibreOffice. :)
> 
Congrats for that achievement! I'm sure that just the first of many
reasons to celebrate in 2020! :)

> This is why I was asking if at the FOSDEM hackfest, I can give[2] you a
> 25 minutes public presentation about this and *WHEN* during the 2 days?[3]
> 
> Having as much person of the current board and board elected people
> would be nice to have (since the next board is taking office on Feb 12th
> after FOSDEM IIRC).
> 
Sadly will (very likely) not be able to attend FOSDEM past Sunday -
but would still be *very much* interested in those slides, if you can
share them?

All the best,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Linux Magazine LibreOffice special -- copies to give away

2018-12-12 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Mike,

Mike Saunders wrote:
> I think we should try to get the magazines into the hands of new
> users, and people who aren't aware of LibreOffice. (Instead of, say,
> just handing them out at Linux/FOSS events, where some people may
> take them as freebies, but never really look into them.)
>
Yep - giving them away like stickers would be a waste - then again, I
think they're generally a great thing to have at events, if even for
people to leaf through them while waiting to get their questions
answered at a booth.

>From the target audience, I think they're not ideally suited for the
absolute newbie to LibreOffice, but more for existing users.

Perhaps simply getting a few copies sent to each of our native lang
teams (where an English magazine would make sense), and leaving it to
them how to best put them to good use?

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice stickers to unixstickers.com?

2017-05-11 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi,

just got poked on IRC today - can we somehow upload/make available
LibreOffice sticker designs from https://www.unixstickers.com/ ?

Note that I don't know the page, nor vet it - just thought that the
idea is valid, like we have tshirts & mugs available on order, too.

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Updates / design ideas for hackfest & mini-conf flyers?

2016-02-08 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi guys,

there's some preps & planning under way to have a hackfest combined
probably with a Spanish mini-conference in April:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibreOffice_Espania_Summit

, and it would be cool to have some flyers to distribute at the local
university.

The wiki has a gallery of existing flyers
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Gallery_Flyers), should we simply
reuse one there -- e.g. the one from the Hamburg hackfest -- or would
someone be able to create a new design, using the refreshed logos etc?

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libo-marketing-priv] BoD Newsletter

2015-06-18 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Italo Vignoli wrote:
 Draft of BoD newsletter attached. Will be distributed at the end of the
 month. Please add whatever you consider relevant.
 
Hi Italo,

reads great to me - maybe add items that are not really news, but
would benefit from some more publicity, like open job postings or
tenders?

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[libreoffice-marketing] Fw: 14 February 2015 - I love Free Software Day

2015-02-11 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi,

FYI - sounds ideal for spreading on social networks shortly before. :)

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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 17:24:03 +0100
From: Matthias Kirschner m...@fsfe.org
Subject: 14 February 2015 - I love Free Software Day

Dear all, 

I am quite sure many of you receive a lot of bug reports, feature
requests or criticism during the whole year. Sometimes people forget to
thank others for their good work. So for this Saturday, 14 February
2015, we again ask people around the globe to show their love to the
people behind Free Software (=you, too). 

We made some suggestions here (available in 8 languages):

  https://fsfe.org/news/2015/news-20150209-01.html

and we would be thankful if you can spread this to your communities, and
thereby motivate other Free Software contributors to continue their good
work [1].

Feel free to order some postcards, leaflets, or posters for your office
on https://fsfe.org/contribute/spreadtheword.en.html#ilovefs-campaign
or use our graphics
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/ilovefs/artwork/artwork.html.

I hope many of you will receive a nice thank you note, a picture
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/ilovefs/whylovefs/gallery.en.html, a drink,
some chocolate, a hug, or other cool signs of appreciation. You earned
it! And I hope that you also have some time to thank others.

Thank you all for your work!
Matthias

  1. On 15 February you can write the next bug report ;)

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Key signing party in Bern, how to participate

2014-07-30 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Sophie Gautier wrote:
 The local organization team in Bern, namely Pete Stephenson and
 Jean-Louis Fuchs, are handling a key signing party during the
 LibreOffice conference in Bern (the date will be soon on the site).
 
That's awesome, kudos to Pete and Jean-Louis! Looking forward to meet
a FOSDEM-like queue there! :)

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[libreoffice-marketing] USB 'card' draft content for CeBIT

2014-01-21 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi,

Thomas came up with the really nice idea to produce a chunk of USB
'business cards' (instead of usb thumbdrives) for the upcoming CeBIT,
which provide some space for marketing content.

Current draft is here:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Bildmuster_USB_Stick_Kreditkarte.PNG

, would be great to get feedback for text  wording of the front
matter (preferably from English native speakers, and possibly a
separate English back side).

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[libreoffice-marketing] anyone working on a LibOCon 2013 presentation template yet?

2013-08-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi there,

with the conference four weeks out, anyone able to quickly whip up a
presentation template? Or maybe there is one already, and I missed it
in the wiki?

Thanks a lot,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/Design for Tshirt(s)

2013-07-23 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Cor Nouws and Thorsten Behrens.
 
Actually Kendy - let me fwd separately. :)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice stickers - proposal for odering

2013-05-21 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Cor Nouws wrote:
 Jean Weber wrote (17-05-13 22:35)
 I want at least 1,000 of the Love stickers (110x25) for OSCON, to be
 shipped to an address in the USA. I'll need them by 19 July. So I
 hope we can get a budget for them.
 
 I'll try my best and am confident that we can do it in time ;)
 
Would mid-June for the Hamburg Hackfest be possible, too? ;)

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Swag/Merchandise Bulk Purchase?

2013-04-09 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Robinson Tryon wrote:
  Great! If you get designs finalized for those, please do poke
  board-discuss - I guess there is some universal need for that. Can I
  add Rollups, that's always cool for setting up booth w/o knowing if
  there is a wall to hang a poster to?
 
 Sure thing. We're mostly focused on prize-type items for the Triage
 Contest, but I'll be happy to add Rollups to the quote list.
 
  Is anyone in US-Marketing considering a purchase of these (or similar)
  items in the next few months? We're thinking that for shipping reasons
  we'd want to source items locally in both Europe and the US. If you're
  interested in purchasing 5 or 500 items, we'd definitely be interested
  in pooling our resources for the task.
 
  Right, and thanks for your initiative!
 
So, just noticing I had chatted with one girl at Berlin LinuxTag last
year, and she does bulk orders for her swag shop there - and
everything that's left over, the projects then can obtain for nice
prices.

This is a bit urgent, since she needs some lead time, on the other
hand, it does not per se create costs for us - quite the contrary,
we'll have swag available at one of the bigger FLOSS events in
Germany.

Should I offer her our FOSDEM tshirt design for that? If we want
left-overs, how much would we want to spend for it (given the stuff
would be in Europe)?

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2013-01-28 17:42:
* Are you a keynote master? We have something for your Android
  smartphone...
 
 Thorsten poked me on a similar thought a few days ago, stating that
 this specific tool might NOT be ready with 4.0. So, we should be
 cautious and check back with the developers first...
 
The story with the Impress remote currently is, that bluetooth
controlling only works against a Linux LibreOffice. Whether that is
enough for being a headline feature I don't know - just that I
personally love that little thing. ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] FOSDEM photo reminders

2013-01-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Marc Paré wrote:
 If you do these, make sure you get people's permission so that we
 can use the video on marketing campaigns both on internet and any
 other media.
 
For video, this is of course best done by filming the consent. To be
on the safe side, we need a similar statement for the photos.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Marc Paré wrote:
 Thorsten: Do you know if the Win and IOS versions are being worked
 on actively?
 
Win: code is there, but needs some love. Mac: some code on my disk,
unknown amount of work to get it to fly. iOS devices: no app
whatsoever yet, the remote client is exclusively Android for the
while.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Call TODAY

2013-01-25 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 This call is only about a follow-up on the 4.0 launch preparation. (so
 no specific agenda, we just need updates and decisions).

Hi Charles,

thx for running this - I'll try to attend, if there's any questions
regarding development.

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice for smartphones

2013-01-21 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Florian Effenberger wrote:
 that was me, and it was about the LibreOffice Impress Remote for
 Android. IMHO, this one will be ready with 4.0 and allows
 controlling the presentation from an Android device.
 
 We definitely should emphasize this often and loud. :-)
 
Please check back with the devs before making too bold a statement -
this thing works, but e.g. not equally well on all platforms. FWICT,
there are at least these gaps still:

 - no BT support on Mac yet
 - no Android market account for TDF yet, via which we could publish
   this
 - speaker notes feature not up to snuff quite yet, pondering to hide
   that
 - and it didn't get much test coverage yet

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-10-14 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Le dimanche 14 octobre 2012 à 10:11 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit :
  I would like to suggest to prepare kits for under-serviced regions where 
  LibreOffice has not made any inroads. The kits could contain the 
  following (localized (language) versions where applicable):
  

Yep, and that's exactly what other projects do, too. I know e.g.
Gnome has a number of Peli Cases, containing the above, that can be
FedEx-ed around the world, for community members to setup a booth.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Mailing list statistics for 2012-10-08

2012-10-08 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Florian,

and below the stats for the lists hosted at freedesktop.org:

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+-+
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libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org 3879462
libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org   93 2758 
libreoffice-comm...@lists.freedesktop.org  2936665
libreoffice-rele...@lists.freedesktop.org  18   33
libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org 69439567
+-+
   All lists  939   159917

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Defining a marketing strategy

2012-07-17 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Jean Weber wrote:
 Anyone can do the same: have a plan and a proposal and apply to
 Friends for money if TDF doesn't have (or doesn't approve)
 funding.

Hi Jean,

and a very big thank you to the Friends here - TDF much appreciates
their (and others) help in funding our common cause.

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Draft Conference PR

2012-06-25 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Their reason is that in order to avoid any friction, ODF plugfests
 should take place in neutral venues, for instance not in LibreOffice
 Conference or AOO conferences.

Like the 2009er plugfest at the Orvieto OOoCon? ;)

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[libreoffice-marketing] Trip report Berlin townhall reception

2012-06-12 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi there,

this is a quick report from an event Mike and I have participated in
Thursday last week - TDF got invited to a Berlin townhall reception,
out to all newly-established foundations from the last 12 months.

The reception was formally hosted by Berlin's mayor, represented by
his undersecretary of state. Setup was extra-posh, local press around
with two ladies, taking pictures, cello solist interludes, fine food 
drinks.

Various addresses by officials, interspersed with brilliant cello
music. A total of five foundations got hand-picked to briefly
introduce themselves on stage, TDF one of them - it seems we
represented the innovative flavour, the other being social,
medicine, music, and arts.

Got a wonderful introduction by the reception host, who seemed to have
really spent some time looking at our public pages (and effectively
extended our own 7 minute marketing sprint with his 3 minutes).

Afterwards chatted with all  sundry, handed out stickers  business
cards left and right. Mentioned LibOCon dates on stage, and to
everybody listening on the floor later.

That said, we can possibly do even better next time, since:
 - those events are perfect for handing out DVDs / flyers (e.g. one of
   the other foundations managed to hand out a professionally-produced
   folded leaflet, printed double-sided, 5 pages in total - including
   donation / participation information
 - fundraising - getting a concise message of *what* we do to benefit
   society + our bank account number is what needs to be spread there
 - for people formally representing TDF, would be nice to have a
   TDF-branded business card template somewhere available
   (I think Italo showed a very nice sample at LinuxTag)

After that, we briefly went over to a Flattr meetup happening at the
same day. Met some local blogging / hacktivist celebrities, and had
the opportunity to chat with Flattr founders  engineers.

 * reportedly the all-average flattr click is worth ~1 EUR, would be
   good verifying that applies to us, too
 * if yes, and since Flattr is rather low-threshold, we could possibly
   stick Flattr buttons on more pages.
   (tangentially, it seems
https://flattr.com/thing/149926/The-Document-Foundation-Challenge
could benefit from some love / updated texts ;))

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Next year: opportunity for professional silk-screen LibreOffice swag production

2012-05-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi there,

while at LinuxTag last weekend, I chatted with the girl, running the
resident swag shop there, nicely located at the main entrance / exit
aisle.

Her deal is to produce real silk-screened cotton prints (on
http://www.basic-wear-gmbh.de/ basics currently), sell them at the
venue rather affordably, and afterwards hand over the remaining
stock to the projects for her base price (which is low, due to the
volume she buys).

Something to ponder at least I think. She asks for some 6 weeks
advance notice, I'll stick that to my calendar just in case.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice developer digest

2012-05-11 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Cor Nouws wrote:
 Now the routing is clear, I hope I can do it fast and regularly.
 Looking in the git-commits is something I do anyway.
 
Wow, nice work - thanks so much for taking over!

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice developer digest

2012-05-08 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi there,

yeah, $subject is not new, but I thought I would run this idea past
you folks here again. ;)

It would be just wonderful, if we could have a weekly digest on the
TDF blog highlighting what has happened in developer land, in
layman's terms. Examples of what I have in mind:

 * http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/2012/03/11/issue-179/#more-624
 * http://dot.kde.org/2011/01/16/kde-commit-digest-12th-december-2010
 * http://lwn.net/Articles/493324/

(ok, I admit, the last one is quite a stretch target)

This would provide nice raw material for upcoming release notes,
create visibility for cool new developments, and keeps users and QA
community informed.

Petr was posting nice script-generated summaries before, but that's
possibly too fine-grained / low-level for a blog:

 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-March/028252.html

Anyway, what do you think? I'll quite possibly not have the cycles
to do it myself, but I happily volunteer to review or facilitate, if
someone steps up for that. :)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)

2011-09-22 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi David - always helps to Cc people you address, otherwise things 
may linger in my inbox for a while, depending on where I focus on.

David Nelson wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote:
  I know that the PostgreSQL developers are interested in closer
  integration with OOo from direct talks with them and we will be
  looking at this in more detail and we have realistic chances of
  getting significant funding resources.
 
 This sounds like one possible good move for LibreOffice: Base as as a
 front end and PostgreSQL as the engine at the back.

Just get the postgresql connector working, and included into the
Oracle SGA grant. Code old-ish  may need minor tweaks. Base has
always been reasonably backend-agnostic.

 Although, like Tom, I'd love to see TDF get something moving with
 Google (one of our supporters, no?) and work on Google Docs
 integration.
 
What does GDocs have to do with Base specifically?

 Michael, Thorsten, could you maybe explain to us what the problems
 and prerequisites would be for the above?
 
No real probs there - only that all of this is not addressing Base
core development. ;)

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Release of 3.4.3 due on Wednesday - someone wanna draft a blog/announcement?

2011-08-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi there,

this is a heads-up that, barring any showstoppers found, we plan to
release 3.4.3 on Wednesday.

Would someone be willing to draft a blog/announcement message, e.g.
based on 

http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/08/17/libreoffice-3-3-4-is-ready-for-download/
or
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/08/01/libreoffice-3-4-2-for-enterprise-users/

?

Thanks a lot,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted

2011-08-19 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi there,

so it seems Andreas  the team made great progress with the
extension website, and ask for more broader testing / playing with
it.

Anyone here wanting to draft some blog post announcing it to the
wider public? 

Links:
 - http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Extensions_Repository
 - http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/

I understand that content submitted now will be kept when the final
site goes live, hopefully that encourages contribution. :)

Thanks a lot,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreGraphics Meeting

2011-06-12 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 a friend of Florian and mine pointed us to a quite unique event in the FLOSS
 world, the LibreGraphics Meeting (http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org) .
 The 2011 edition just ended but since we do have a graphics application
 (Draw), it could be interesting to join that event. Any volunteers? We can
 connect you with the event organizers.
 
I usually attent the LGM, when it's in Europe, and there were folks
even using Writer for artistic work. Beyond the libre theme, there
are many potential areas for technical cooperation, including clip
arts, swatch books, color selection and calibration, and much more.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] branding colors - missmatch

2011-01-20 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Christoph Noack wrote:
  There is still another problem. You desided to use a Vegur-font as a
  standard font. Unfortunatly this font does not have all nessessary
  characters (f.e. no ä, ü, ö, ß) - so it is not possible to use
  this font for text.
  This was not a very good idea 
 
 Let's say, given the time and opportunity, it was okay to go with this
 font (in my opinion). Thus, we knew that problems in advance, but since
 it is rather neutral, substitutes for remaining text should work well.
 
Unless someone beats me to it - at least äüö and other diacritical
marks should be trivially addable with fontforge or somesuch, no?

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