Res: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

2010-12-10 Thread Lucas Filho
Hi Bernhard,

Ok.

 
Até mais,
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- Mensagem original 
De: Bernhard Dippold 
Para: marketing@libreoffice.org
Enviadas: Sábado, 11 de Dezembro de 2010 6:22:31
Assunto: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

Lucas Filho schrieb:
> Hello Community,
>
>
> We already have a new version of RC and LibreOffice not know if any proposal 
>for
> a new logo for the LibreOffice was accepted.

I don't know if you read the mails about our branding and the timeframe 
about it's modifications. If you had, you might have got an impression 
of what can be done at which time.

As a short summary:

For LibO 3.3.0 we go with the "initial branding" mainly created by 
Christoph, after the release we'll start working on a "community 
branding" that might become released with LibO 3.4 or 3.5.

More details can be found on the wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Work_Items
(third topic)

> I believe this is the ideal time to
> disclose any change in the logo before the final version.

No, it isn't.
>
> It would be interesting to launch an online vote to the proposal that we 
>already
> have? (We can fit all the logos on the wiki so that s for a vote -
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas) ...

No - not now, and before any public vote we'll have to define our goals 
and how to achieve them via our branding.
>
> With this we will strengthen the image more collaborative we propose for our
> users.

Collaborative work is something else than just voting on different 
proposals.

I'd prefer discussing the intentions of the designers and finding a way 
to create the basic and principle design elements (including the logo as 
their center) with positive input by the entire design team.

The result will probably be a reduced number of items created not by 
single designers, but by a (or a few) team(s) of artists, designers and 
marketing experts following our still to define community goals.

If we'll have a voting on these branding design themes, I can't know at 
the moment.

But at this point of our community life a voting is not even near to 
leading to the result of a community based logo and branding.
>
> I will then send a draft of a mascot that used in our social network for
> evaluation.

Please add it to the logo ideas wiki page
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas#Logo

so it will not be forgotten when we start discussing the community 
branding for LibreOffice.

And if you want to be part in this discussion, please subscribe to our 
design mailing list Marc already posted the links:

http://go.mail-archive.com/2G5D0_W9kRdFb8L_0OGsKBCPjFE=

Best regards

Bernhard

>
>
>
> Até mais,
> Lucas Filho
> Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços
> http://www.open-ce.com.br
>
> ::@strogildo - Educação a distância
> http://astrogildo.blogspot.com
>
> Coordenador Estadual GUBRO-Ceará
> http://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce
>
> Blog Pessoal
> http://lucasfilho.blogspot.com
>
>
> Agradecemos a Deus por tudo
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

2010-12-10 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Lucas Filho schrieb:

Hello Community,


We already have a new version of RC and LibreOffice not know if any proposal for
a new logo for the LibreOffice was accepted.


I don't know if you read the mails about our branding and the timeframe 
about it's modifications. If you had, you might have got an impression 
of what can be done at which time.


As a short summary:

For LibO 3.3.0 we go with the "initial branding" mainly created by 
Christoph, after the release we'll start working on a "community 
branding" that might become released with LibO 3.4 or 3.5.


More details can be found on the wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Work_Items
(third topic)


I believe this is the ideal time to
disclose any change in the logo before the final version.


No, it isn't.


It would be interesting to launch an online vote to the proposal that we already
have? (We can fit all the logos on the wiki so that s for a vote -
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas) ...


No - not now, and before any public vote we'll have to define our goals 
and how to achieve them via our branding.


With this we will strengthen the image more collaborative we propose for our
users.


Collaborative work is something else than just voting on different 
proposals.


I'd prefer discussing the intentions of the designers and finding a way 
to create the basic and principle design elements (including the logo as 
their center) with positive input by the entire design team.


The result will probably be a reduced number of items created not by 
single designers, but by a (or a few) team(s) of artists, designers and 
marketing experts following our still to define community goals.


If we'll have a voting on these branding design themes, I can't know at 
the moment.


But at this point of our community life a voting is not even near to 
leading to the result of a community based logo and branding.


I will then send a draft of a mascot that used in our social network for
evaluation.


Please add it to the logo ideas wiki page
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas#Logo

so it will not be forgotten when we start discussing the community 
branding for LibreOffice.


And if you want to be part in this discussion, please subscribe to our 
design mailing list Marc already posted the links:


http://go.mail-archive.com/2G5D0_W9kRdFb8L_0OGsKBCPjFE=

Best regards

Bernhard





Até mais,
Lucas Filho
Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços
http://www.open-ce.com.br

::@strogildo - Educação a distância
http://astrogildo.blogspot.com

Coordenador Estadual GUBRO-Ceará
http://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce

Blog Pessoal
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

2010-12-10 Thread Danishka Navin
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Lucas Filho  wrote:

> Hello Community,
>
>
> We already have a new version of RC and LibreOffice not know if any
> proposal for
> a new logo for the LibreOffice was accepted. I believe this is the ideal
> time to
> disclose any change in the logo before the final version.
>
> It would be interesting to launch an online vote to the proposal that we
> already
> have? (We can fit all the logos on the wiki so that s for a vote -
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas) ...
>

+1



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RE: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

2010-12-10 Thread Florian Reisinger



> > It would be interesting to launch an online vote to the proposal that we 
> > already
> > have? (We can fit all the logos on the wiki so that s for a vote -
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas)
>
> +1
>
> David Nelson
>
 Very nice idea.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

2010-12-09 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 22:53, Lucas Filho  wrote:
> It would be interesting to launch an online vote to the proposal that we 
> already
> have? (We can fit all the logos on the wiki so that s for a vote -
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas) ...
>
> With this we will strengthen the image more collaborative we propose for our
> users.
>
> I will then send a draft of a mascot that used in our social network for
> evaluation.

+1

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

2010-12-09 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 10 December 2010 05:55:37 Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 06:53 -0800, Lucas Filho wrote:
> > We already have a new version of RC and LibreOffice not know if any
> > proposal for a new logo for the LibreOffice was accepted. I believe this
> > is the ideal time to disclose any change in the logo before the final
> > version.
> > 
> > It would be interesting to launch an online vote to the proposal that we
> > already have? (We can fit all the logos on the wiki so that s for a vote
> > - http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas) ...
> > 
> > With this we will strengthen the image more collaborative we propose for
> > our users.
> 
> No decision should be made regarding the logo, before there is an
> accepted briefing for the logo. Without a briefing, everyone will just
> follow their personal taste and judge the proposals based on their own
> (often not communicated) assumptions of what the desired characteristics
> are. Said assumptions may be vague and vary quite a bit, making a vote
> meaningless.

+1

Graham Lauder,
OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html

INGOTs Moderator New Zealand
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

2010-12-09 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 06:53 -0800, Lucas Filho wrote:

> We already have a new version of RC and LibreOffice not know if any proposal 
> for 
> a new logo for the LibreOffice was accepted. I believe this is the ideal time 
> to 
> disclose any change in the logo before the final version.
> 
> It would be interesting to launch an online vote to the proposal that we 
> already 
> have? (We can fit all the logos on the wiki so that s for a vote - 
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas) ...
> 
> With this we will strengthen the image more collaborative we propose for our 
> users.


No decision should be made regarding the logo, before there is an
accepted briefing for the logo. Without a briefing, everyone will just
follow their personal taste and judge the proposals based on their own
(often not communicated) assumptions of what the desired characteristics
are. Said assumptions may be vague and vary quite a bit, making a vote
meaningless.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

2010-12-09 Thread Ralph H.
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Lucas Filho  wrote:

> We already have a new version of RC and LibreOffice not know if any proposal 
> for
> a new logo for the LibreOffice was accepted. I believe this is the ideal time 
> to
> disclose any change in the logo before the final version.
>
> It would be interesting to launch an online vote to the proposal that we 
> already
> have? (We can fit all the logos on the wiki so that s for a vote -
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas) ...

An online Vote would be a good idea i think, but we should give it
enough time, so print magazines can write about it. So we should think
2+ months here.
It would be nice should we be able to use the new logo when the relese
version is ready, but i do not think we have enough time and i do not
think it will hurt us when 3.3 is official and we do decide on the new
logo later.

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

2010-12-09 Thread Lucas Filho
Hello Community,


We already have a new version of RC and LibreOffice not know if any proposal 
for 
a new logo for the LibreOffice was accepted. I believe this is the ideal time 
to 
disclose any change in the logo before the final version.

It would be interesting to launch an online vote to the proposal that we 
already 
have? (We can fit all the logos on the wiki so that s for a vote - 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas) ...

With this we will strengthen the image more collaborative we propose for our 
users.

I will then send a draft of a mascot that used in our social network for 
evaluation.


 
Até mais,
Lucas Filho
Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços
http://www.open-ce.com.br

::@strogildo - Educação a distância
http://astrogildo.blogspot.com

Coordenador Estadual GUBRO-Ceará
http://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce

Blog Pessoal
http://lucasfilho.blogspot.com


Agradecemos a Deus por tudo



  

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