Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice version offerings of the Download page

2012-04-10 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Marc, Jean, *,

Marc Paré wrote (07-04-12 03:09)


There was some talk recently and, also a while ago, about the Download
page and which version(s) should be offered by default of the page. I
think we should revisit the logic of this page.


Well, there has indeed been a long and extensive discussion before and 
during the change of the download page.



We are presently suggesting and offering visitors to the site the
default of our "most recent version" of LibreOffice. While this is great
for larger feedback results for de-bugging it does not necessarily
present a good choice for those looking for a stable, solid and reliable
document application for their work or office deployment.


It is not said that with 3.6.0 it will be added there immediately.
Also, I have a proposal that I should work out for some time, to make a 
clear(er) link to release notes and release policy.
And people doing deployments in production environments are considered 
to read those.



Although some other software packages offer their product on a release
cycle much like ours - most notably the Mozilla group - our product is
unique in that LibreOffice is in many cases used by groups or
individuals where the resulting end-user document(s) are clearly
dependent on the use of a quality-assured application. In short, an
application that does not add any formatting error to the end product.


Yes.


While any deployment of LibreOffice would sensibly involve advanced
planning where the weight of using the "most recent version" as opposed
to a more seemingly "solid previous version" (this, hopefully the norm),
I do not believe that we are giving enough warning to individual users
of the risks behind using our "most recent version" as opposed to an
earlier "solid performing version". I believe that such a warning should
appear on our Download page.


I would dare to say that 3.5.x is in better shape then 3.4.x
Nevertheless, a change that makes people more aware of choices is OK, as 
long as it is not clumsy or misleading.
So maybe it's a good idea that when the little improvements that I 
suggested are there, that we then again look at your suggestion below. 
Does that make sense as first step?



I would then propose the following minimal changes to the Download page
in order to address this issue:

Rework the sentence: "LibreOffice Linux - rpm (x86_64), version 3.5.2,
English (US). Not the version you wanted? Change System, Version or
Language" which seems to span/draw the equivalent of 2 lines on users'
monitors to:

"LibreOffice Linux - rpm (x86_64), most recent version 3.5.2, English
(US). Not the version you wanted? Change System, Previous Stable Version
or Language (Release Notes Details)" <--- the "Release Notes Details
would link to the http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/ page

This should still keep sentence to 2 lines on the users' monitors and,
at the very least, allow users time to reflect of their choice of
versions before hitting the default download buttons.



The previous discussion was simultaneously on the website-list. And when 
reopening the discussion, I think it is helpful to add the people active 
before to as cc in the mail.


Regards,

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice version offerings of the Download page

2012-04-06 Thread Marc Paré

Hi everyone,

There was some talk recently and, also a while ago, about the Download 
page and which version(s) should be offered by default of the page. I 
think we should revisit the logic of this page.


We are presently suggesting and offering visitors to the site the 
default of our "most recent version" of LibreOffice. While this is great 
for larger feedback results for de-bugging it does not necessarily 
present a good choice for those looking for a stable, solid and reliable 
document application for their work or office deployment.


Although some other software packages offer their product on a release 
cycle much like ours - most notably the Mozilla group - our product is 
unique in that LibreOffice is in many cases used by groups or 
individuals where the resulting end-user document(s) are clearly 
dependent on the use of a quality-assured application. In short, an 
application that does not add any formatting error to the end product.


While any deployment of LibreOffice would sensibly involve advanced 
planning where the weight of using the "most recent version" as opposed 
to a more seemingly "solid previous version" (this, hopefully the norm), 
I do not believe that we are giving enough warning to individual users 
of the risks behind using our "most recent version" as opposed to an 
earlier "solid performing version". I believe that such a warning should 
appear on our Download page.


I would then propose the following minimal changes to the Download page 
in order to address this issue:


Rework the sentence: "LibreOffice Linux - rpm (x86_64), version 3.5.2, 
English (US). Not the version you wanted? Change System, Version or 
Language" which seems to span/draw the equivalent of 2 lines on users' 
monitors to:


"LibreOffice Linux - rpm (x86_64), most recent version 3.5.2, English 
(US). Not the version you wanted? Change System, Previous Stable Version 
or Language (Release Notes Details)" <--- the "Release Notes Details 
would link to the http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/ page


This should still keep sentence to 2 lines on the users' monitors and, 
at the very least, allow users time to reflect of their choice of 
versions before hitting the default download buttons.


I believe this would show a more responsible use of our Download page by 
giving warning to users of their choice of versions by giving them 
notice of the differences of versions and their scale of reliability.


Cheers,

Marc







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