Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: A web page for TDF/LibreOffice store
Hi James, Danishka, all James Walker schrieb: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Danishka Navindanis...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion I think that we should really leave it up to the individual marketing teams to do this for their area. It would be easier to manage and then the items sold could be better customized to their market. you meant local communities will produce Tshirts and send their funds back to TDF ? I don't think it as a good solution, but it is the best solution if we are not working for fund raising with Tshirts. I don't think that it is necessary that all stores have to be led by TDF directly. In my eyes local stores make sense by avoiding customs, reducing transport fees and delivery times. Probably we (the community led by the Steering Committee) will have to define which way to go: a) one centralized store b) one central organization with different local stores c) officially approved local stores (one for each region) d) officially approved local stores (no restriction by region) like the distributor network on OOo e) stores without direct connection to the community / TDF With us having marketing broken down into regions, or languages, I think it would be easier for each language group or marketing area to do there own thing. Just like there are places in the US that make the items and handle shipping and everything else for you, I am sure there is in other countries as well. It would be really confusing I think to attempt a global store. I also am not sure what selling stuff under TDF would do for the non-profit aspect of the foundation. What I see is the US/CAN marketing teams setting up a place and then directing people to that site when they are out promoting LibreOffice. Then all the money that is generated from their store could go towards more Marketing in the area. I think seperating the funds like that would work just fine. I am going to end here for now, as I feel like I am rambling. Not at all - this is a topic we should discuss and decide, at it is a good opportunity to raise money. What I want to avoid is companies paying money to become the official LibO store - avoiding concurrent stores until the next one pays more money. Even if this might bring us the most money, it might not be the best situation for our users / customers and doesn't fit to my understanding of free and open. My preference is option d) Stores have to ask permission to be mentioned on our website. We provide officially approved designs for them to sell (or we accept their design proposals - under free license - as part of our official visual design) They can add a button/banner Officially approved LibreOffice store. They donate a certain percentage to TDF. Best regards Bernhard James -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: A web page for TDF/LibreOffice store
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: Hi James, Danishka, all James Walker schrieb: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Danishka Navindanis...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion I think that we should really leave it up to the individual marketing teams to do this for their area. It would be easier to manage and then the items sold could be better customized to their market. you meant local communities will produce Tshirts and send their funds back to TDF ? I don't think it as a good solution, but it is the best solution if we are not working for fund raising with Tshirts. I don't think that it is necessary that all stores have to be led by TDF directly. In my eyes local stores make sense by avoiding customs, reducing transport fees and delivery times. Probably we (the community led by the Steering Committee) will have to define which way to go: a) one centralized store b) one central organization with different local stores c) officially approved local stores (one for each region) d) officially approved local stores (no restriction by region) like the distributor network on OOo e) stores without direct connection to the community / TDF With us having marketing broken down into regions, or languages, I think it would be easier for each language group or marketing area to do there own thing. Just like there are places in the US that make the items and handle shipping and everything else for you, I am sure there is in other countries as well. It would be really confusing I think to attempt a global store. I also am not sure what selling stuff under TDF would do for the non-profit aspect of the foundation. What I see is the US/CAN marketing teams setting up a place and then directing people to that site when they are out promoting LibreOffice. Then all the money that is generated from their store could go towards more Marketing in the area. I think seperating the funds like that would work just fine. I am going to end here for now, as I feel like I am rambling. Not at all - this is a topic we should discuss and decide, at it is a good opportunity to raise money. What I want to avoid is companies paying money to become the official LibO store - avoiding concurrent stores until the next one pays more money. Even if this might bring us the most money, it might not be the best situation for our users / customers and doesn't fit to my understanding of free and open. My preference is option d) Stores have to ask permission to be mentioned on our website. We provide officially approved designs for them to sell (or we accept their design proposals - under free license - as part of our official visual design) They can add a button/banner Officially approved LibreOffice store. They donate a certain percentage to TDF. Best regards Bernhard Personally, I am looking into setting up something for the US/Can Marketing teams, where most of the money raised will go back into marketing efforts in the US/Can. I am sure we will have a little bit of overhead to maybe have someone take care of all the paperwork, and make sure all the orders make it to the person they are supposed to. I am still looking into the idea of the T-shirts that we discussed before, if someone would like to purpose artwork for say the front pocket of the T-shirt, and maybe a design for the back that would help. We could then vote on it, then I will make a list of all those interested in ordering and then see how much per T-shirt I can get them made. We have some very good quality T-shirts made for work every year. These are used in a shop enviroment and they last most of the guys a couple of years when we order 5 or so a piece. James Walker -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: A web page for TDF/LibreOffice store
CafePress has always been pretty good for this kind of thing, all you really have to do is upload the artwork and finish setting this up. In my opinion I think that we should really leave it up to the individual marketing teams to do this for their area. It would be easier to manage and then the items sold could be better customized to their market. James Walker On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, 2010/12/2 Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-12-01 14:06, Danishka Navin a écrit : As we need funds we could start a DTF/LibreOffice store, that people can by Libreoffice Tshirts, Caps, etc. IMO, yes, we should make a page for the LO store. We should maybe just consider it for the Drupal site for now. People would not expect if to appear right away at the first appearance of the LibreOffice suite. We also need to work on what we really would like to market and what is written on the items. Drupal has one of the most powerful open source shopping systems around: Ubercart: http://www.ubercart.org/ It would not be that difficult to set up. The shop-system is the smallest part of work. In case we are setting it up by ourselves, someone must manage the shop, purchase, shipping etc. This can't be done by a sole project member. I would recommend to jump on a existing configurable system like shirtcity or similar. Regards Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bh...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: A web page for TDF/LibreOffice store
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion I think that we should really leave it up to the individual marketing teams to do this for their area. It would be easier to manage and then the items sold could be better customized to their market. you meant local communities will produce Tshirts and send their funds back to TDF ? I don't think it as a good solution, but it is the best solution if we are not working for fund raising with Tshirts. With us having marketing broken down into regions, or languages, I think it would be easier for each language group or marketing area to do there own thing. Just like there are places in the US that make the items and handle shipping and everything else for you, I am sure there is in other countries as well. It would be really confusing I think to attempt a global store. I also am not sure what selling stuff under TDF would do for the non-profit aspect of the foundation. What I see is the US/CAN marketing teams setting up a place and then directing people to that site when they are out promoting LibreOffice. Then all the money that is generated from their store could go towards more Marketing in the area. I think seperating the funds like that would work just fine. I am going to end here for now, as I feel like I am rambling. James -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: A web page for TDF/LibreOffice store
Hi, 2010/12/2 Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-12-01 14:06, Danishka Navin a écrit : As we need funds we could start a DTF/LibreOffice store, that people can by Libreoffice Tshirts, Caps, etc. IMO, yes, we should make a page for the LO store. We should maybe just consider it for the Drupal site for now. People would not expect if to appear right away at the first appearance of the LibreOffice suite. We also need to work on what we really would like to market and what is written on the items. Drupal has one of the most powerful open source shopping systems around: Ubercart: http://www.ubercart.org/ It would not be that difficult to set up. The shop-system is the smallest part of work. In case we are setting it up by ourselves, someone must manage the shop, purchase, shipping etc. This can't be done by a sole project member. I would recommend to jump on a existing configurable system like shirtcity or similar. Regards Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
