Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: An early report on the Facebook ads

2013-05-31 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello,


Le Wed, 15 May 2013 20:42:04 +1000,
Jean Weber  a écrit :

> On 15/05/2013, at 19:41, "Charles-H. Schulz"
>  wrote:
> 
> > Of course, one can always wonder what "liking a page" means
> > regardless of any philosophical consideration, as that's my case.
> > Do you like the page because you think it's a cool project, did you
> > click out of boredom or did you actually download the software and
> > use it? All good questions to ask...  :-)
> > 
> 
> 
> FWIW, I often "like a page" so I can get posts from that page and
> keep up with whatever it's about. Usually it's something I'm in
> favour of, but not always. Sometimes I know little about the topic
> and want to learn more. Often I have no other involvement with
> whatever the page is about.
> 
> --Jean

Here's a more complete report which is still interim and generated by
Facebook. I've uploaded a sanitized document here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ads

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: An early report on the Facebook ads

2013-05-15 Thread Jean Weber
On 15/05/2013, at 19:41, "Charles-H. Schulz" 
 wrote:

> Of course, one can always wonder what "liking a page" means regardless
> of any philosophical consideration, as that's my case. Do you like the
> page because you think it's a cool project, did you click out of boredom
> or did you actually download the software and use it? All good questions
> to ask...  :-)
> 


FWIW, I often "like a page" so I can get posts from that page and keep up with 
whatever it's about. Usually it's something I'm in favour of, but not always. 
Sometimes I know little about the topic and want to learn more. Often I have no 
other involvement with whatever the page is about.

--Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: An early report on the Facebook ads

2013-05-15 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  

Mind-share or more recent terms.  


"The aim of mind share is to establish a brand as being one of the best 
kinds of a given product or service, and to even have the brand name 
become a synonym for the product or service offered", err quoting from 
wikipedia rather than going to original sources, sorry.

It's increasing the momentum of the drive into market share.  Winning 
hearts&minds creates more and longer-term users that are willing to put up with 
odd problems and keep using the product.  If people simply download it and try 
it without knowing or caring about the likelihood of differences and object to 
the slightest difference then they wont stay long.  If we have won their 
hearts&minds then they stay long enough to learn and even appreciate the 
differences.    So, it's longer-term success that is difficult to quantify.  

Regards from 

Tom :)  





>
> From: Charles-H. Schulz 
>To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013, 10:41
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: An early report on the Facebook ads
> 
>
>
>
>Do you "like" the page because you think it's a cool project, did you click 
>out of boredom or did you actually download the software and use it? All good 
>questions
>to ask...  :-)
>
>Best,
>-- 
>Charles-H. Schulz
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: An early report on the Facebook ads

2013-05-15 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Marc,

Le mardi 14 mai 2013 à 16:49 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit :
> Le 13/05/13 06:46 AM, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'd like to share with you an early report on our Facebook ad campaign.
> > My first surprize was that a Facebook ad has to be validated by Facebook
> > and it  does take time (several days). Consequently, the ad campaign
> > effectively started on the 7th of May. From the 7th till today (6 days)
> > the ad was seen by 74,298 unique people, over a general scope of over
> > 135 Million people (people selected in English-speaking geographies with
> > specific interests, from small business owner to education-interested
> > audiences and tech early adopters). I can provide a specific audience
> > segmentation if needed. Needless to say, I configured the ad to run for
> > people who are not related to LibreOffice. The goal of this ad was to
> > get more "Likes", and thus the report follows that logic.
> >
> > The ad was seen by 74,298 people, that's the effective outreach of the
> > ad until now. On these people, 718 people actually clicked on the ad,
> > went to the LibreOffice Facebook page and on these 718 people, 560 liked
> > it (clicked on the like this page button).
> >
> > This costed (again, till today) 165 Euros and 46 cents. Keep in mind we
> > have set a limit of 30 Euros for each day the ads run. In the end it
> > seems that each "Like" by anyone on Facebook to the LibreOffice page
> > costs 30  cents.
> >
> > I have more in-depth metrics if anyone's interested, but I'd like to
> > share my feeling about this ad: On the one hand it's great because it
> > seems we are able to raise the awareness of LibreOffice; both the
> > potential audience and the effective audience numbers are impressive;
> > but then what does clicking on a Like button mean? I don't know what to
> > think about that.
> >
> > I'm sure we can have another campaign with different objectives,
> > (Facebook ads can be run according to more complex patterns) but at this
> > stage I'm both happy by the audience and at the same time I  don't know
> > what to do with it: so we got 560 clicks. "Cool", so what? :-) let's be
> > thankful for them and hope we are attracting not just new users but
> > future contributors as well.
> >
> > Your thoughts are welcome,
> >
> 
> I think our objective show be four-fold:
> 
> * we are at the very least looking for marketing and brand recognition 
> ,-- it looks like we got some good coverage with people at least seeing 
> the ad -- approximatley 75 000 people
> 
> * we are looking for clicks on the ad -- we got 1%. I was hoping for 
> more of 2% which would have translated to 1500 instead ... in my 
> experience a 2% return in the publishing arena is a good return on ad 
> placements or for any type of marketing campaigns.
> 
> * we are looking for a spike in download for that particular period. We 
> would need the download metrics for that particular period.
> 
> * we are looking for a smaller spike in donations for that particular 
> period.
> 
> 
> Most important of these points is the spike in downloads which is what 
> we need from our ad readers. Once they have gotten to try LibreOffice we 
> should not have a problem retaining them as regular users.
> 
> Is there a way of getting the download numbers for that period and 
> compare it to a regular previous period?
> 
> Thanks for doing this, it will show us if FaceBook ads are of any value 
> to us.


Thanks a lot for your feedback. You're making a very good point: the
download spike. As we're speaking the people who liked our facebook page
because of this ad campaign are several hundreds . I do not think we
could observe that spike if there were any, but as the campaign is
supposed to run for about a month, we may be able to observe the
download spike in a few weeks. I'll return to the list with this data by
then.

Of course, one can always wonder what "liking a page" means regardless
of any philosophical consideration, as that's my case. Do you like the
page because you think it's a cool project, did you click out of boredom
or did you actually download the software and use it? All good questions
to ask...  :-)

Best,
-- 
Charles-H. Schulz
Co-Founder & Director, The Document Foundation,
Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint




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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: An early report on the Facebook ads

2013-05-14 Thread Marc Paré

Le 13/05/13 06:46 AM, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :

Hello everyone,

I'd like to share with you an early report on our Facebook ad campaign.
My first surprize was that a Facebook ad has to be validated by Facebook
and it  does take time (several days). Consequently, the ad campaign
effectively started on the 7th of May. From the 7th till today (6 days)
the ad was seen by 74,298 unique people, over a general scope of over
135 Million people (people selected in English-speaking geographies with
specific interests, from small business owner to education-interested
audiences and tech early adopters). I can provide a specific audience
segmentation if needed. Needless to say, I configured the ad to run for
people who are not related to LibreOffice. The goal of this ad was to
get more "Likes", and thus the report follows that logic.

The ad was seen by 74,298 people, that's the effective outreach of the
ad until now. On these people, 718 people actually clicked on the ad,
went to the LibreOffice Facebook page and on these 718 people, 560 liked
it (clicked on the like this page button).

This costed (again, till today) 165 Euros and 46 cents. Keep in mind we
have set a limit of 30 Euros for each day the ads run. In the end it
seems that each "Like" by anyone on Facebook to the LibreOffice page
costs 30  cents.

I have more in-depth metrics if anyone's interested, but I'd like to
share my feeling about this ad: On the one hand it's great because it
seems we are able to raise the awareness of LibreOffice; both the
potential audience and the effective audience numbers are impressive;
but then what does clicking on a Like button mean? I don't know what to
think about that.

I'm sure we can have another campaign with different objectives,
(Facebook ads can be run according to more complex patterns) but at this
stage I'm both happy by the audience and at the same time I  don't know
what to do with it: so we got 560 clicks. "Cool", so what? :-) let's be
thankful for them and hope we are attracting not just new users but
future contributors as well.

Your thoughts are welcome,



I think our objective show be four-fold:

* we are at the very least looking for marketing and brand recognition 
,-- it looks like we got some good coverage with people at least seeing 
the ad -- approximatley 75 000 people


* we are looking for clicks on the ad -- we got 1%. I was hoping for 
more of 2% which would have translated to 1500 instead ... in my 
experience a 2% return in the publishing arena is a good return on ad 
placements or for any type of marketing campaigns.


* we are looking for a spike in download for that particular period. We 
would need the download metrics for that particular period.


* we are looking for a smaller spike in donations for that particular 
period.



Most important of these points is the spike in downloads which is what 
we need from our ad readers. Once they have gotten to try LibreOffice we 
should not have a problem retaining them as regular users.


Is there a way of getting the download numbers for that period and 
compare it to a regular previous period?


Thanks for doing this, it will show us if FaceBook ads are of any value 
to us.


Cheers,

Marc

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