[libreoffice-marketing] Re: http://web.libreofficebox.org/

2011-02-05 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-05 11:12, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

Hi Marc,

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com  wrote:

Maybe I missed something somewhere. Could someone explain the Document
Foundation LibreOffice Box project?

http://web.libreofficebox.org/ and http://www.libreoffice-box.org/


Well, what explanation do you want?

The german team has been providing a CD (and later also a DVD)
distribution with (at the time) OpenOffice.org as well as some other
free software and extras named PrOOo-Box, and now continues with
LibreOffice instead of OOo.

So as such it is a volunteer project with quite a bit of tradition :-)

ciao
Christian



Thanks Christian. Is this part of the TDF/LibreOffice project? The 
website has the LibreOffice and TDF names on it. And if so, are there 
considerations being made for all NL groups? Are other NL groups 
participating?


Some members of the marketing team are working on DVD 
content(s)/design(s) and are looking at the design team for guidance. 
Are the german team also working with the design team as well?


I can't seem to see any mention of it on the marketing, design lists and 
only see one mention of it on the website list.


Cheers

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: http://web.libreofficebox.org/

2011-02-05 Thread drew
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 22:06 +0100, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote:
 Of course. The design Drew chose for his SCALE DVD is based on
 their actual DVD design. (By the way provided by one of the most 
 active Design Team members) ;-) 

Yes and I mentioned that in (I think) each post referring to that
design.

But let's be fair - it has the official mime-icons placed in a
semi-circle, the background used is gone, the logo is changed from
official to community, all text, even as an en translation from the de,
from the original is either gone, altered and repositioned, below each
icon now  text added that is not on the original - so yes it saved a few
minutes.

BTW these changes to DVD label took place via exchanges on the US
marketing list.  It has been made clear that the original svg file will
be available for anyone that desires to use, the iso image being
assembled contains en, es and fr binaries for all platforms, sdk for all
platforms and source code. T

he documents are only in English only docs (but that likely will
change), templates came from the OxygenOfice template pack, minus the
non-free templates and includes same for en, es and fr again. 

It includes additional extensions and ODF tools as presented to and
discussed, albeit briefly so far on the US ML. There will be a few Base
applications (from multiple persons) perhaps, but not put to the ML for
comment yet. This iso image will be available for anyone that wants it
for distribution when finished.

- so calling it 'Drew's' disc is a bit of a stretch, IMO.

On a personal note, and as I mentioned on the US list, I find it
interesting that after posting to the international design list, no
response, but it was discussed, briefly, on the German list.

Anyway - I'm looking forward to your release of the libreoffic-box, the
Pro-oooBox, I believe has always been a well run and useful community
project and you guys continuing, as Christian said, the tradition is
excellent.

Best wishes,

Drew


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: http://web.libreofficebox.org/

2011-02-05 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-05 16:06, Dr. Bernhard Dippold a écrit :

Hi Marc, all,

Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-02-05 11:12, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

Hi Marc,

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com   wrote:

Maybe I missed something somewhere. Could someone explain the Document
Foundation LibreOffice Box project?

http://web.libreofficebox.org/ and http://www.libreoffice-box.org/


Well, what explanation do you want?

The german team has been providing a CD (and later also a DVD)
distribution with (at the time) OpenOffice.org as well as some other
free software and extras named PrOOo-Box, and now continues with
LibreOffice instead of OOo.

So as such it is a volunteer project with quite a bit of tradition :-)

ciao
Christian



Thanks Christian. Is this part of the TDF/LibreOffice project?


As Christian already wrote: The german team - Yes.


Thanks. I wasn't sure if it was an associated group or members of the 
TDF/LibreOffice team.





The website has the LibreOffice and TDF names on it.


And is hosted at the same servers as the LibO and TDF pages.

Do you think OOoDeV would have granted them these rights, if they
would not be part of the project?


Thanks for the rhetorical answer.




And if so, are there considerations being made for all NL groups?


Of course - but they want to provide a working infrastructure.

It was easier for them to discuss their work items on the de-discuss
list instead of talking English to each other on this list here.


Are other NL groups participating?


Not yet.


Some members of the marketing team are working on DVD
content(s)/design(s) and are looking at the design team for guidance.
Are the german team also working with the design team as well?


Of course. The design Drew chose for his SCALE DVD is based on
their actual DVD design. (By the way provided by one of the most
active Design Team members) ;-)


I can't seem to see any mention of it on the marketing, design lists and
only see one mention of it on the website list.


If you don't remember:
http://www.mail-archive.com/marketing@libreoffice.org/msg01402.html

You have been the one crossposting this topic here.


Thanks. The month of November seems so far ago. Yes I did make a note of 
it. There has not been any mention of it on the marketing list since 
then. It would be nice to get some kind of progress report for the 
marketing team as some members have already discussed DVD design. This 
would help in keeping us appraised of the status of the design and 
promote community involvement.




(I mentioned it here too:
http://www.mail-archive.com/marketing@libreoffice.org/msg01869.html)

Florian already mentioned it on twitter, identi.ca and facebook, so you can
be assured, that it is an officially supported LibO/TDF effort.

Best regards

Bernhard




Thanks for info.

Cheers

Marc




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[libreoffice-marketing] [libreoffice-marketing] Re: http://web.libreofficebox.org/

2011-02-05 Thread Dr. Bernhard Dippold
Hi Drew, *

I've been much too short in my comment - thanks for clarification...

Drew Jensen wrote:

 On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 22:06 +0100, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote:
  Of course. The design Drew chose for his SCALE DVD is based on
  their actual DVD design. (By the way provided by one of the most 
  active Design Team members) ;-) 
 
 Yes and I mentioned that in (I think) each post referring to that
 design.

My single point in this mail was: The LibO-Box is part of our community.
I wanted to show that you are aware of this work - that's all.
 
 But let's be fair - it has the official mime-icons placed in a
 semi-circle, the background used is gone, the logo is changed from
 official to community, all text, even as an en translation from the de,
 from the original is either gone, altered and repositioned, below each
 icon now  text added that is not on the original - so yes it saved a few
 minutes.

That's what I meant by it's based on - it follows the same visual 
language. If you understood it as copied or wasn't able to create 
anything on his own I'm very sorry - it's exactly the opposite to what 
I meant!


I want to get a common design for all community distributions - but
at the moment I can't spend enough time on this task.

 
 [... interactive work on the US marketing mailing list ... ]
 
 - so calling it 'Drew's' disc is a bit of a stretch, IMO.

Sorry - I didn't know. I can't follow the US marketing list too :-(
 
 On a personal note, and as I mentioned on the US list, I find it
 interesting that after posting to the international design list, no
 response, but it was discussed, briefly, on the German list.

It is marked for reply (as about 30 other mails on the design list), 
but you're right - a short I like it - it fit's with the branding guideline
would have been appropriate. I'll remember (hopefully) for the
next time.

The reason why to post it on the DE-list was a different one:
People there still discussed different proposals for their DVD
design. As I already mentioned, I want to create a consistent 
Branding Design for LibreOffice, so I hoped they would tend to
the proposal similar to the US group's design. They did ;-)
 
 [...]

Best regards

And sorry again for any displeasure!

Bernhard




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