Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork

2010-11-07 Thread Jens Habermann
Hi David!

Thank you for your kind words.

> 1) Would it perhaps be an idea to add a numbering to each version, to
> make them easy to refer to?

I added numbers and organized some more...

> 2) While it may not be in your current line of thinking, could you be
> persuaded to do one or two versions of a mascot-type logo (see [2]),
> just to give us some to look at and reflect on?

I am doing already some mascot sketches, but I think a mascot is more an addon. 
I personally think an
office package need some stylish minimal logo on the desktop, but having a 
mascot on a fair for
example would be great. For now I don´t like my mascot drafts - a good mascot 
is difficult :-) 
as I wrote some time ago: a mascot is more an evolving process...

regards
Jens


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork

2010-11-07 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jens, :-)

Thanks for the numbering and the patient ear.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 05:28, Jens Habermann  wrote:
> I am doing already some mascot sketches, but I think a mascot is more an 
> addon. I personally think an
> office package need some stylish minimal logo on the desktop, but having a 
> mascot on a fair for
> example would be great. For now I don´t like my mascot drafts - a good mascot 
> is difficult :-)
> as I wrote some time ago: a mascot is more an evolving process...

Yes, it's true that it's notoriously difficult to come up with that
magic winner. Nor indeed is a mascot the *only* possible approach,
although you undoubtedly noticed my enthusiasm for one. I think I
might post to the users list later, and try sounding out our user base
to see if that brings any interesting ideas.

Since TDF is currently going with a sheet of paper, could it perhaps
grow arms and legs, and maybe some kind of face? Any way to make that
folded corner a bit "softer" so that it morphs into a persona more
easily? (Although, technically, that's much easier to say than to
achieve.)

TDF guys, how about a competition/challenge on the front page of the
main site, or somewhere else appropriate on the Internet? Reactions?
Feel free to assign me any footwork you want in that respect. You will
probably have noted that I'm looking around for other creative brains
to add proposals to the mascot quest.

Jens, to give you some feedback to fuel your creative thought process:

I love the "Office" word in 1.2 to 1.4, with the continuation of that
styling in the paper sheet. The font is a real winner; I like the
downward sloping line of those elements. For me, that's something to
stay with and keep. The 2-tone gray softens the overall visual. Really
nice. It has a sophisticated look to it, and will work in lots of
contexts/settings.

Whereas I find the paper sheet in 1.1 is a little stark and simplistic
when seen on a white background at that large-ish size, that version
will work well and be clearly distinguishable at small sizes. Same
comments for that font - it's easily readable, yet gives a needed
little break with conventionality. Perhaps we could have a set of
different-colored versions to make it usable on all colors of
backdrop?

Coming back to 1.2 to 1.4: The "Libre" word obviously expresses
"liberty and freedom". So I visualize a font that looks done by a
human hand (I'm thinking something calligraphic/script-ish but perhaps
*not* too regular and perfectly formed). Plus, I imagine something
with attitude, confidence, unconventionality and a little fizzaz.
Something a bit signature-like? Like it's saying, "Hey, buddy! This
might be software but know that it was brought to you by creative,
free-thinking, human minds!"

The font in 1.2 to 1.4 seems a little spidery to me? Especially at small sizes?

OT: I love hanging around in artists' studios and drafting rooms, with
the mess, the inks, the paints, the discarded drafts and scribblings,
and the whole feel of creativity and outside-the-box, inventive,
shifting thought. Please can I have the smell of paint and ink in the
logo?

Obviously, all the above are my own gut reactions intended purely as
constructive fuel for discussion. There's nothing set in stone there.
Once more, a big thanks for your work. HTH. :-)

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork

2010-11-07 Thread David Nelson
P.S. Any chance you could also post your source files, so that one
could grab a copy and maybe play around with them? Or will you do that
when TDF has chosen a final version that is totally world-ready?

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork

2010-11-08 Thread Michael Wheatland
I would like to say that I love some of the artwork here by Jens.
Personally I love the simplicity of the simple black 'unfold' logo and
the existing standard green text but the addition of the slash across
the Office looks fantastic.

In keeping with the theme of simplicity I have hacked together a
mockup icon for LibO Writer / ODT icon. Be aware that I don't have the
graphical skills of Jens.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#Michael_Wheatland

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork

2010-11-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi again, Jens, :-)

May I ask what fonts you're using for 1.1 and for 1.3.1 in [1]?

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#CMS_.2F_Logo_draft

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork

2010-11-08 Thread Jens Habermann
Hi David!

Font in 1.1 is my own creation.

Font in 1.3.1 is Beteckna ( Libre and Office share the same font... ).

Jens


Am 08.11.2010 um 13:12 schrieb David Nelson:

> Hi again, Jens, :-)
> 
> May I ask what fonts you're using for 1.1 and for 1.3.1 in [1]?
> 
> [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#CMS_.2F_Logo_draft
> 
> David Nelson
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork

2010-11-11 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi David, hi Jens, *

David Nelson schrieb:

Hi Jens, :-)

I like your septipus :-) [1] The seven tentacles remind me of the
different applications packaged in LibO. This character is one that,
IMHO, will easily stay in people's minds, too. And it has all the
other possibilities of a "living" mascot. Nice job! Great start, Jens!
:-)

1) So that can *become* the logo in its own right? 2) Or else, in
large graphics, could one integrate it inside the sheet of paper? 3)
Or will Septipus wrap his tentacles *around* the paper sheet?


For small graphics and icons it might be too detailed if it would be 
used as our main logo. As an additional graphic it might work, even if I 
don't feel comfortable with tentacles around the corners of my 
documents... (wrong association - quite the opposite to "libre")


[1] 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#Jonata.27s_logo.2Fmime_artwork_proposal

Jens' work is presented above the section you link:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#Designs_by_Jens_Habermann_.2801.2F11.2F2010.29

Please scroll down a bit for the septipus.

The direct link to the file is here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Septipus.png




Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork

2010-11-11 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:54, Bernhard Dippold
 wrote:
> For small graphics and icons it might be too detailed if it would be used as
> our main logo. As an additional graphic it might work, even if I don't feel
> comfortable with tentacles around the corners of my documents... (wrong
> association - quite the opposite to "libre")

I'll post some re-sized versions on the wiki, so we can get an idea of
how Septipus looks at diffent sizes. I suspect he might become
difficult to clearly distinguish at sizes below 32x32px. (Or 48x48px?)

Whether or not Septipus could become the project's prime logo is a
something we'd need to sound out here on the marketing/artwork list.
(And also maybe with our end users on the [tdf-discuss]/user support
lists, too?)

However, Septipus could be a great central figure for the LibO starter
pane, either as a side graphic or else right in the middle, with a
tentacle pointing to each app or icon in the starter pane. Maybe the
apps could be in a kind-of circular arrangement around him.

Ultimately, I'd suggest naming this mascot LibO.

0.2 cents.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Wheatland
I really don't want another paperclip, or for that matter a septo-puss
asking me "It looks like you are writing a letter, can I help?"

Personally I would much prefer to avoid mascots as they tend to be
abused for demeaning tasks :)

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