Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated
Hi Charles, * Charles-H. Schulz schrieb: [...] Hello everyone, please use the new logos (without TDF) for your labels: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Non-TDF_logos.png There might be some modifications to the logos during the next days. The Design Team is still working on them. Logos with additional badges / sublines (like "Community supporter" or "Community distributor") will need clear definitions about the preconditions to use them. If you need logos to be used outside the community in the meantime, please contact the design@libo list or me personally (as the graphics in the link provided by Charles shouldn't be scaled for quality reasons). Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated
On 02/01/2011 10:02 AM, toki wrote: > On 01/30/2011 02:45 PM, Fabián Rodríguez wrote: > > > I also hope part of this discussion is useful for other DVD > distributors. > > Four points: > > a) Are you going to be making that DVD image publicly available for > other people to download and burn to physically distribute locally; I am not sure. I made an ISO file but its interest for others is limited as it's really customized to my use and has my contact information. It's also 1.4 GB in size so it's not as easy to distribute. I published all the steps I took to make it so anyone is free to make the same, which I think will fit best everyone's specific needs. > b) The file tree does not contain files for 64 bit Windows. All of the > new systems I've seen here, have had 64 bit Windows 7 on them; I am not aware of a 64-bit specific version of LibO for Windows. I only used files available at libreoffice.org for the files I chose: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.3.0/win/ > > c) The file tree does not contain Linux RPMs. Omitting that is probably > as bad an omission as leaving out the 64 bit Windows files; I suppose you didn't read my notes. Under "Research and writing": " I left out RPMs for now but they will be included shortly. " How are such omissions bad ? I provide links to get "other languages and versions" as indicated on the label. I am focusing on my audience, that's all. For my first run I expected no one to be using an RPM system and didn't have time to download the appropriate files. > > d) How are handling the "source code must be available" issue? > > jonathon I haven't had any requests yet. I link to libreoffice.org in many places, and my README includes this mention: All software included on this DVD is licensed under the LGPLv3 free software license. The latest version of these files can be obtained at: http://libreoffice.org/download I suppose I can include a mention about the source code there, thanks for bringing that up. Cheers, Fabian -- Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated
Hi :) Ages ago i think we said that the source code 'should' be on the Cd/dvd along with whichever version of LO is being included. Someone said that just giving a link to the source code is enough and space on a Cd is very limited. So, including the source code if possible is the preference but not the rule. I think it's important to avoid making a rule about this and keep it as flexible as the GPL, LGPL and MPL. It is not as though we want to berate people for spreading the software around. Regards from Tom :) From: toki To: marketing@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 15:02:01 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2011 02:45 PM, Fabián Rodríguez wrote: > I also hope part of this discussion is useful for other DVD distributors. Four points: a) Are you going to be making that DVD image publicly available for other people to download and burn to physically distribute locally; b) The file tree does not contain files for 64 bit Windows. All of the new systems I've seen here, have had 64 bit Windows 7 on them; c) The file tree does not contain Linux RPMs. Omitting that is probably as bad an omission as leaving out the 64 bit Windows files; d) How are handling the "source code must be available" issue? jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNSCBhAAoJEERA7YuLpVrV2MwH/A9ivu8fGtnE8I1MyJAPBBnD ApDStWfuJ14f5NKaD/+pDGLwWHNWbxj55AwFRaDkHhFsPbgGHd6V4Ff7py6H9B/a 3MYsDE1duzbPHnblgw44NPuf2NIC6MZLiVqNfUB/VF4DaRX3CB0xIjeuI2M9q6XX CFOkypdpJfJAsMM1y5RzqzdFQyT3U/1YApYh+H0nEvWt5Nz2BQxs1rPGVkCciWK4 cm3sAC5+n4uKwHdOF9ucUaDHT6+et4DKSYvqzwKMBWf1wxMrRxn5jxm4xCm02HKI hPWY8AmP2kzwWU83x9FK0iFrSsJ1UWujxGSnHOMjCztCyPGFrm+bfj+HBGlhNCg= =zZ62 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone, please use the new logos (without TDF) for your labels: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Non-TDF_logos.png Best, Charles. Le Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:02:01 +, toki a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/30/2011 02:45 PM, Fabián Rodríguez wrote: > > > I also hope part of this discussion is useful for other DVD > > distributors. > > Four points: > > a) Are you going to be making that DVD image publicly available for > other people to download and burn to physically distribute locally; > > b) The file tree does not contain files for 64 bit Windows. All of > the new systems I've seen here, have had 64 bit Windows 7 on them; > > c) The file tree does not contain Linux RPMs. Omitting that is > probably as bad an omission as leaving out the 64 bit Windows files; > > d) How are handling the "source code must be available" issue? > > jonathon > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNSCBhAAoJEERA7YuLpVrV2MwH/A9ivu8fGtnE8I1MyJAPBBnD > ApDStWfuJ14f5NKaD/+pDGLwWHNWbxj55AwFRaDkHhFsPbgGHd6V4Ff7py6H9B/a > 3MYsDE1duzbPHnblgw44NPuf2NIC6MZLiVqNfUB/VF4DaRX3CB0xIjeuI2M9q6XX > CFOkypdpJfJAsMM1y5RzqzdFQyT3U/1YApYh+H0nEvWt5Nz2BQxs1rPGVkCciWK4 > cm3sAC5+n4uKwHdOF9ucUaDHT6+et4DKSYvqzwKMBWf1wxMrRxn5jxm4xCm02HKI > hPWY8AmP2kzwWU83x9FK0iFrSsJ1UWujxGSnHOMjCztCyPGFrm+bfj+HBGlhNCg= > =zZ62 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > - -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFNSCeooC0xO/kLVsQRAtR/AJ0VA9kdYzp5Z5/6axVEil8iieB/IQCgi5sP 3NzY6dHPdSBqQVxsasUUVIQ= =EnYW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2011 02:45 PM, Fabián Rodríguez wrote: > I also hope part of this discussion is useful for other DVD distributors. Four points: a) Are you going to be making that DVD image publicly available for other people to download and burn to physically distribute locally; b) The file tree does not contain files for 64 bit Windows. All of the new systems I've seen here, have had 64 bit Windows 7 on them; c) The file tree does not contain Linux RPMs. Omitting that is probably as bad an omission as leaving out the 64 bit Windows files; d) How are handling the "source code must be available" issue? jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNSCBhAAoJEERA7YuLpVrV2MwH/A9ivu8fGtnE8I1MyJAPBBnD ApDStWfuJ14f5NKaD/+pDGLwWHNWbxj55AwFRaDkHhFsPbgGHd6V4Ff7py6H9B/a 3MYsDE1duzbPHnblgw44NPuf2NIC6MZLiVqNfUB/VF4DaRX3CB0xIjeuI2M9q6XX CFOkypdpJfJAsMM1y5RzqzdFQyT3U/1YApYh+H0nEvWt5Nz2BQxs1rPGVkCciWK4 cm3sAC5+n4uKwHdOF9ucUaDHT6+et4DKSYvqzwKMBWf1wxMrRxn5jxm4xCm02HKI hPWY8AmP2kzwWU83x9FK0iFrSsJ1UWujxGSnHOMjCztCyPGFrm+bfj+HBGlhNCg= =zZ62 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated
Cool, very nice indeed! Do you have the source of the logo without TDF? Let me know so that we can put it on a wiki page, etc. Thanks a lot, Charles. 2011/1/30 Fabián Rodríguez > On 01/30/2011 10:21 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > Hello Fabian > > > > Well yes it does clear up misunderstandings. In the future we will issue > > logos without "The Document Foundation" written on it for people who wish > to > > distribute tailored labels. My offer that you design the official label > > still stands, however. > > The logo w/o TDF wording would make my label look like this: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/659391/Libo-dvd-2-1.pdf > > I'll put more time on this when I can - thanks again for all your comments. > > Cheers, > > Fabian > > -- > Fabián Rodríguez > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > marketing+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated
On 01/30/2011 10:21 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > Hello Fabian > > Well yes it does clear up misunderstandings. In the future we will issue > logos without "The Document Foundation" written on it for people who wish to > distribute tailored labels. My offer that you design the official label > still stands, however. The logo w/o TDF wording would make my label look like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/659391/Libo-dvd-2-1.pdf I'll put more time on this when I can - thanks again for all your comments. Cheers, Fabian -- Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated
Hello Fabian Well yes it does clear up misunderstandings. In the future we will issue logos without "The Document Foundation" written on it for people who wish to distribute tailored labels. My offer that you design the official label still stands, however. best, Charles. 2011/1/30 Fabián Rodríguez > On 01/30/2011 09:12 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > Fabian > > > > I'm sorry I am going to look and sound like this is criticism but as you > may > > have heard we are working on a trademark policy. > > I am unclear in fact whether you are designing something that can be > > considered an official label for LibreOffice DVD or if it's just "your" > own > > label. > > > > - if you want it to be official then I would only suggest ou take away > your > > name and just put "The Document Foundation" instead (btw, I don't like > the > > font there, but that's just my personal taste). (this option is the > easiest > > and it would mean we would have one official label now!) > > - if it's just your label, we are coming up with a logo that does not > > display "the Document Foundation " underneath the LibreOffice mention but > if > > you can come up with one, then you're welcome to do so... :-) > > > > Best, > > Charles. > Hi Charles, > > Thank you for your comments - don't be sorry! :) As I've mentioned > before this is for a very specific use and I am aware of other > developments regarding the trademark. Unfortunately I printed my labels > and put them on DVDs last night so these will go as-is. > > I am not sure how else I can make clear this label (and DVD structure) > is my own other than the fact it's in my wiki space, has clear > attribution and licensing, and I have explained all the process to > create it publically. > > I am following trademark developments closely and my label will change > accordingly either when I notice or when I am asked to (I have > subscribed relevant wiki pages too). I am not producing 3000 DVDs right > away! I am also limited by my own capacity to burn, print labels & stick > them on DVDs, manually. BTW I used the original fonts as indicated in > the branding page (which I had to trace back, translate licensing > information from Japanese and update in our own wiki). > > Regarding my name, it's there precisely to indicate this is not > distributed by TDF and this production (~50 DVDs) will be > hand-distributed with a clear indication that I produced them myself (if > people don't get to read the whole text on the DVD). Of course I am also > promoting my services and bundling this with a (free) workshop. > > I hope this clears up any misunderstandings. I also hope part of this > discussion is useful for other DVD distributors. > > Cheers, > > -- > Fabián Rodríguez > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > marketing+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated
On 01/30/2011 09:12 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > Fabian > > I'm sorry I am going to look and sound like this is criticism but as you may > have heard we are working on a trademark policy. > I am unclear in fact whether you are designing something that can be > considered an official label for LibreOffice DVD or if it's just "your" own > label. > > - if you want it to be official then I would only suggest ou take away your > name and just put "The Document Foundation" instead (btw, I don't like the > font there, but that's just my personal taste). (this option is the easiest > and it would mean we would have one official label now!) > - if it's just your label, we are coming up with a logo that does not > display "the Document Foundation " underneath the LibreOffice mention but if > you can come up with one, then you're welcome to do so... :-) > > Best, > Charles. Hi Charles, Thank you for your comments - don't be sorry! :) As I've mentioned before this is for a very specific use and I am aware of other developments regarding the trademark. Unfortunately I printed my labels and put them on DVDs last night so these will go as-is. I am not sure how else I can make clear this label (and DVD structure) is my own other than the fact it's in my wiki space, has clear attribution and licensing, and I have explained all the process to create it publically. I am following trademark developments closely and my label will change accordingly either when I notice or when I am asked to (I have subscribed relevant wiki pages too). I am not producing 3000 DVDs right away! I am also limited by my own capacity to burn, print labels & stick them on DVDs, manually. BTW I used the original fonts as indicated in the branding page (which I had to trace back, translate licensing information from Japanese and update in our own wiki). Regarding my name, it's there precisely to indicate this is not distributed by TDF and this production (~50 DVDs) will be hand-distributed with a clear indication that I produced them myself (if people don't get to read the whole text on the DVD). Of course I am also promoting my services and bundling this with a (free) workshop. I hope this clears up any misunderstandings. I also hope part of this discussion is useful for other DVD distributors. Cheers, -- Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated
Fabian I'm sorry I am going to look and sound like this is criticism but as you may have heard we are working on a trademark policy. I am unclear in fact whether you are designing something that can be considered an official label for LibreOffice DVD or if it's just "your" own label. - if you want it to be official then I would only suggest ou take away your name and just put "The Document Foundation" instead (btw, I don't like the font there, but that's just my personal taste). (this option is the easiest and it would mean we would have one official label now!) - if it's just your label, we are coming up with a logo that does not display "the Document Foundation " underneath the LibreOffice mention but if you can come up with one, then you're welcome to do so... :-) Best, Charles. 2011/1/30 Fabián Rodríguez > Hi everyone, > > I've updated my DVD material to what will be distributed in my first run. > > In total about 20 hours went into this, FYI (!). I didn't think it would > take this long! > > See: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=User:MagicFab/LibODVD > > Cheers, > > -- > Fabián Rodríguez > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > marketing+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
