Re: proposal: managing editor for Fedora Magazine?

[Mark Terranova]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Máirín Duffy 
wrote:

>
>
> On 03/12/2015 01:18 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> That sounds like a good idea, and Ryan is the obvious choice with all
>> of the work he's put into it -- not just the theme, but writing
>> articles as well.
>>
>
> It seems like we have wide consensus, so congrats Ryan :)
>
+1 Agreed

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Re: proposal: managing editor for Fedora Magazine?

[Máirín Duffy]

On 03/12/2015 01:18 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

That sounds like a good idea, and Ryan is the obvious choice with all
of the work he's put into it -- not just the theme, but writing
articles as well.


It seems like we have wide consensus, so congrats Ryan :)

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Re: How do you log into the Magazine?

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On 03/12/2015 02:57 PM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
Il giorno 12/mar/2015, alle ore 19:42, Chaoyi Zha 
mailto:cydrob...@fedoraproject.org>> ha 
scritto:



FAS openid


On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 2:28 PM Zacharias Mitzelos 
mailto:mit...@mitzelos.com>> wrote:


On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, at 08:20 PM, Ruth Suehle wrote:
> I use the FAS openID.
> --

me too



Username + password for me

Gabri


Did you originally log in with the OpenID though -- i am pretty sure 
that is the only way to create an account.


I am playing with some changes to the login screen on the wordpress 
instance that would only allow login via openID, to make the magazine in 
line with other Fedora applications.


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Re: How do you log into the Magazine?

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> Il giorno 12/mar/2015, alle ore 19:42, Chaoyi Zha 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> FAS openid
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 2:28 PM Zacharias Mitzelos  wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, at 08:20 PM, Ruth Suehle wrote:
>> > I use the FAS openID.
>> > --
>> 
>> me too

Username + password for me

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Re: How do you log into the Magazine?

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FAS openid

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 2:28 PM Zacharias Mitzelos 
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> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, at 08:20 PM, Ruth Suehle wrote:
> > I use the FAS openID.
> > --
>
> me too
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Re: How do you log into the Magazine?

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On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, at 08:20 PM, Ruth Suehle wrote:
> I use the FAS openID.
> -- 

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Re: How do you log into the Magazine?

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On 03/12/2015 02:20 PM, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering how everyone logs into the magazine?
> 
> Do you use your Fedora FAS openID? or another OpenID? or just a
> wordpress username and password?

WP username & pwd.
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Re: New Magazine theme

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On 03/11/2015 11:58 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> FWIW I brought up the dilemma between user and contributor that we're
> talking about here to Rikki Endsley, who has a ton of experience as a
> magazine publish & managing editor for a bunch of publications like
> Ubuntu User, Linux Pro Magazine, SysAdmin magazine, etc. ... I thought
> with her experience she'd probably run into similar dilemmas and might
> have some good advice / words of wisdom.
> 
> She agreed that having the magazine focus on one audience would make it
> stronger and that Fedora's contributors don't really need a magazine -
> she recommended focusing on howto articles, tutorials, lists of best
> apps, tips/tricks, updating advice and that kind of content with a
> strong user focus.

Hrm. I'm going to disagree here. We have a wide and diverse community
that (I feel) benefits from having content for contributors as well as
users on Fedora Magazine.

I guess my question here is, if I come to Fedora Magazine with a
contributor-focused article - is it going to be turned away? Traditional
publishing structures have value, but we're also lacking the same
incentives (e.g. money) for writing content that a publication like
Linux Pro Magazine has.

Is the focus being proposed here going to lead to more or less material
being written about Fedora?

>>> Re underground silo what kinds of critical contributor content
>>> are you most concerned about?  would planet.fpo not serve that
>>> content well?

Planet.fpo does not serve the same function as the magazine well.

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Re: How do you log into the Magazine?

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I use the FAS openID.
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How do you log into the Magazine?

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Hi all,

Just wondering how everyone logs into the magazine?

Do you use your Fedora FAS openID? or another OpenID? or just a 
wordpress username and password?


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Re: Marketing-trac: #190: Create talking points

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#190: Create talking points
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  Reporter:  ankursinha|  Owner:  jzb
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Re: Marketing-trac: #194: Create Beta Announcement

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#194: Create Beta Announcement
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Re: Marketing-trac: #193: Beta One Page Release Notes

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On 03/12/2015 01:25 PM, marketing-team wrote:
> #193: Beta One Page Release Notes
> --+-
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> --+-
> 
> 

I think this may be in the "now owned by docs, still showing up in the
milestone/task list for marketing" list. We haven't done one page
release notes (not the announcement, that's separate) for some time.

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Marketing-trac: #196: Brief Ambassadors on upcoming release

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#196: Brief Ambassadors on upcoming release
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Re: Marketing-trac: #193: One Page Release Notes (was: Beta One Page Release Notes)

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#193: One Page Release Notes
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Marketing-trac: #195: F22 screenshots page

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#195: F22 screenshots page
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F22 screenshots page created

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Hello,

Wiki page created here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F22_Screenshots

Trac ticket here: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/195
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Marketing-trac: #194: Create Beta Announcement

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#194: Create Beta Announcement
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 Jzb already created a wiki page for this:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F22_Beta_release_announcement

 More info here:
 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2015-March/017201.html

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Marketing-trac: #192: Firefox bookmarks

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#192: Firefox bookmarks
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Marketing-trac: #193: Beta One Page Release Notes

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#193: Beta One Page Release Notes
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Marketing-trac: #191: Proposed Changes Profiles

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#191: Proposed Changes Profiles
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Marketing-trac: #190: Create talking points

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#190: Create talking points
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Re: proposal: managing editor for Fedora Magazine?

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:07:22PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> I'm wondering if, as we do in other Fedora associated projects, we
> should have a lead / managing editor for Fedora Magazine to help
> drive the vision and be empowered and accountable for making the
> strategic kinds of decisions we've been talking about in the thread
> on the magazine theme. This was something Rikki thought would be a
> good idea to help us move forward.

That sounds like a good idea, and Ryan is the obvious choice with all
of the work he's put into it -- not just the theme, but writing
articles as well.


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Re: New Magazine theme

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On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:58:33AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> She agreed that having the magazine focus on one audience would make
> it stronger and that Fedora's contributors don't really need a
> magazine - she recommended focusing on howto articles, tutorials,
> lists of best apps, tips/tricks, updating advice and that kind of
> content with a strong user focus.

I agree that this seems awesome. However, we need a lot more people
generating that kind of content to get to that point.

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Re: New Magazine theme

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On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:46:58PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> I'd argue planet.fpo is the contributor version and magazine is
> the user version. I liked Paul's idea of having the default on the
> front page being user focused content instead of all. An idea is that

planet.fpo is kind of a firehose. We need something a little more like
devel-announce list to planet's devel list. (Well, except planet isn't
even as focused as the devel list.)

> planet to make more better posts. (And the hubs, when they are ready
> :) )

Yeah, it may be that the hub is a solution there.

> Re underground silo what kinds of critical contributor content
> are you most concerned about?  would planet.fpo not serve that
> content well?

I don't think it _has_ been serving that well. I'm thinking largely of
the work to explain and socialize the various Fedora.next ideas, and
similar future things which will be coming out of the Council. Things
which we'd like everyone in the project to be aware of.

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Re: New Magazine theme

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On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:39:03AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > with a lot less overhead both in systems administration and in blog
> > administration. A whole 'nother site would double the workload, and
> > we're largely depending on (awesome — thanks!) volunteer efforts for
> > this as it is.
> I don't think this doubles the workload in my experience running
> Wordpress.  Most of the work is either non-duplicative anyway, like
> editing or writing articles, or is nominal effort once you do it on
> one site, like testing changes, plugins or upgrades and then
> implementing on both sites once satisfied.

As long as Chris and Ryan and everyone else running it isn't concerned,
then I won't be.


> What you're suggesting sounds like approaching the same content issues
> we have on Planet (no audience definition, no relevance grouping).  We
> don't need to recreate those issues in the Magazine.

Well, no, I _was_ suggesting grouping them, but with a more lightweight
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Re: Marketing-trac: #177: Trifold layout for mktg team - Fedora.next presentation

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#177: Trifold layout for mktg team - Fedora.next presentation
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Comment (by zoltanh721):

 This event has happened last year, and as we hadn't any requested
 presskit, I had to compose from scratch an article to make a basic
 introduction to Fedora and a little bit of .next as the chief editor of
 PcWorld HU has wished. Good news that the article has successfully went to
 print (although they made a little glich in the booklet), but still feel
 the pain when we don't have any good centralized resource that we can give
 out/share for the press people. Flyers are one thing, but when it goes to
 the greater public... I really would like to cry a Fedora Marketing river.
 If you would like to know what am I thinking, just locate on the net the
 Firefox Press Center [https://blog.mozilla.org/press/ here], where you can
 have request form to have speaker at bigger events (in Fedora view: any
 ambassador would like to have someone at upcoming event or a hiring booth
 at the upcoming event, or maybe I would like to have my FPL to attend, or
 RH HR outreach people), or reviewers guide about the features (yes, we had
 once talking points flyers but not anymore), you can get qualified press
 quality images with right colors (instead of hunting from the net or
 making your own), and fast facts are summarizing cool things about the
 product and you can clearly have the leaders small bio, or contacts that
 maybe you can interview So, how can I help, or where we begin, because
 I really feel the need to have .Next Marketing, and Press Center.

 Thx

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Re: Marketing-trac: #177: Trifold layout for mktg team - Fedora.next presentation

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#177: Trifold layout for mktg team - Fedora.next presentation
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Comment:

 I agree.

 IMO it would be useful publish the whole press kit at the same moment.

 Tagged not-urgent this ticket with minor priority.

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Re: Marketing-trac: #177: Trifold layout for mktg team - Fedora.next presentation

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#177: Trifold layout for mktg team - Fedora.next presentation
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Comment (by ankursinha):

 Well, as jzb explained, the flyers aren't top priority. Plus, I'm only
 working on the workstation flyer at the moment - I haven't been working on
 the other editions. Let's leave this open for the time being, maybe we can
 do something later?

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Re: Marketing-trac: #177: Trifold layout for mktg team - Fedora.next presentation

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#177: Trifold layout for mktg team - Fedora.next presentation
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Comment (by mailga):

 Hello Ankur,

 I opened this ticket because Zoltan needed a press introduction to fednext
 for event he was going to attend, but I had some problems after opening
 this ticket so I never been able to moving forward.
 I was just wondering if we really need this kind of introduction (there a
 draft of the text linked) or if it is out of date.

 You are working about flyer for each product, maybe an introduction still
 make sense.

 Suggestions?

 Tnx

 Gabri

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Beta F22 Page Created

[Joe Brockmeier]

Hey all,

Have started the beta announcement page on the wiki:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F22_Beta_release_announcement

A keen eye will note a striking resemblance to the F22 alpha announcement.

We probably need to refine the overall "story" for the F22 release now -
the alpha announcement pretty much is a "here's a collection of
features", and by the final announcement we should really have a more
coherent story about F22 and where we're going.

Some things missing from the alpha we should highlight in beta (assuming
readiness):

* base changes in the distro
* Docker image

What are we missing?

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Re: Marketing-trac: #177: Trifold layout for mktg team - Fedora.next presentation

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#177: Trifold layout for mktg team - Fedora.next presentation
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Comment (by ankursinha):

 Maliga, is this ticket still valid, or can I close it?

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Re: Marketing-trac: #185: Fedora 21 flyer for server product

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#185: Fedora 21 flyer for server product
---+---
  Reporter:  ankursinha|  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  closed
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 21
 Component:  Release deliverables  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  fixed |   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---
Changes (by ankursinha):

 * resolution:   => fixed
 * status:  new => closed


Comment:

 F21 released. Closing.

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Re: Marketing-trac: #141: Generic Fedora.next flyer

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#141: Generic Fedora.next flyer
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  Reporter:  ankursinha|  Owner:  ankursinha
  Type:  task  | Status:  closed
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 21
 Component:  Release deliverables  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  fixed |   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+
Changes (by ankursinha):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 Closing.

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Re: Marketing-trac: #184: Fedora 21 flyer for cloud product

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#184: Fedora 21 flyer for cloud product
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  Reporter:  ankursinha|  Owner:  jzb
  Type:  task  | Status:  closed
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 21
 Component:  Release deliverables  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  fixed |   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---
Changes (by ankursinha):

 * resolution:   => fixed
 * status:  new => closed


Comment:

 F21 released. Closing.

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Re: Marketing-trac: #179: Fedora.next Flyer for Workstation product

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#179: Fedora.next Flyer for Workstation product
---+
  Reporter:  ankursinha|  Owner:  ankursinha
  Type:  task  | Status:  closed
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 21
 Component:  Release deliverables  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  fixed |   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+
Changes (by ankursinha):

 * resolution:   => fixed
 * status:  assigned => closed


Comment:

 Dup of https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/186

 Closing.

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Re: Marketing-trac: #186: Fedora 21 flyer for workstation product

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#186: Fedora 21 flyer for workstation product
---+
  Reporter:  ankursinha|  Owner:  ankursinha
  Type:  task  | Status:  closed
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 21
 Component:  Release deliverables  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  fixed |   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+
Changes (by ankursinha):

 * status:  assigned => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 Closing.

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Re: Marketing-trac: #176: Create Talking Points

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#176: Create Talking Points
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  Reporter:  mitzie|  Owner:  jzb
  Type:  task  | Status:  closed
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 21
 Component:  Release deliverables  |   Severity:  not-urgent
Resolution:  fixed |   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+
Changes (by ankursinha):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 Closing F21 task.

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Re: Marketing-trac: #175: Update and Package Firefox Bookmarks

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#175: Update and Package Firefox Bookmarks
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  Reporter:  chrisroberts  |  Owner:  mailga
  Type:  task  | Status:  closed
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 21
 Component:  Release deliverables  |   Severity:  not-urgent
Resolution:  fixed |   Keywords:  Easyfix
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+
Description changed by ankursinha:

Old description:

> Closing F21 task.

New description:



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Re: Marketing-trac: #175: Update and Package Firefox Bookmarks

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#175: Update and Package Firefox Bookmarks
---+
  Reporter:  chrisroberts  |  Owner:  mailga
  Type:  task  | Status:  closed
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 21
 Component:  Release deliverables  |   Severity:  not-urgent
Resolution:  fixed |   Keywords:  Easyfix
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+
Changes (by ankursinha):

 * status:  assigned => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Old description:



New description:

 Closing F21 task.

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Re: proposal: managing editor for Fedora Magazine?

[Máirín Duffy]

This kind of communication is NOT okay in Fedora.

https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct

Please work out whatever issues/concerns you have in a friendly manner 
off-list. If you need a mediator, message me off-list and I can help.


~m

On 03/11/2015 01:35 PM, Vinit Srivastva wrote:

Hey dude,

If I'll get a single mail from you , I'll screw you..

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Ankur Sinha mailto:sanjay.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 16:28 +, Chris Roberts wrote:
 > + 100 to this. Ryan has been doing a great job with keeping content
 > flowing and getting the new theme off the ground. Me and him have
been
 > working very closely to make sure that it gets test through staging
 > and then once we are good we will push to production.

Another +1k :)
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Re: proposal: managing editor for Fedora Magazine?

[Gabriele Trombini]

> Il giorno 11/mar/2015, alle ore 17:07, Máirín Duffy  
> ha scritto:
> 
> I'm wondering if, as we do in other Fedora associated projects, we should 
> have a lead / managing editor for Fedora Magazine to help drive the vision 
> and be empowered and accountable for making the strategic kinds of decisions 
> we've been talking about in the thread on the magazine theme. This was 
> something Rikki thought would be a good idea to help us move forward.
> 
> If we agree this would be a good role to have, I think Ryan Lerch [1] would 
> be a good fit since he's already put a lot of effort and thinking into the 
> magazine layout/theming/workflow and is a talented and experienced writer and 
> editor in his own right (he's written half of the top ten Fedora Magazine 
> articles of all time.)
> 
> ~m
> 
> 
> [1] I asked him for his okay before sending this :)
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+1000 I totally agree.

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Re: New Magazine theme

[Paul W. Frields]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 07:04:35PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 05:55:39PM -0400, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> > >It does.  One of my concerns has been the invasion of inward-looking
> > >Fedora community articles, which seem out of place for appealing to a
> > >broad audience.  (e.g. "What's FESCo?")  At first the idea of a
> > >separate site appeals to me.
> > I really like this idea. It would allow us to have select content
> > about the community on the user-facing site, with a link to the post
> > on the community-focussed site.
> 
> So, what I was going for in suggesting the user/contributor categories
> kind of _is_ like having a mini separate site, like this suggestion but
> with a lot less overhead both in systems administration and in blog
> administration. A whole 'nother site would double the workload, and
> we're largely depending on (awesome — thanks!) volunteer efforts for
> this as it is.

I don't think this doubles the workload in my experience running
Wordpress.  Most of the work is either non-duplicative anyway, like
editing or writing articles, or is nominal effort once you do it on
one site, like testing changes, plugins or upgrades and then
implementing on both sites once satisfied.

> I'm also concerned with too strong of a divide meaning that the
> important contributor-focused articles end up in yet another
> underground silo somewhere... we've had a hard enough time building up
> the magazine as a place to look.

The divide is the entire point, though.  The designers are finding
that a topical organization would help people find more relevant
content.  And cross linking is zero friction as well.

What you're suggesting sounds like approaching the same content issues
we have on Planet (no audience definition, no relevance grouping).  We
don't need to recreate those issues in the Magazine.

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Re: New Magazine theme

[Ryan Lerch]

On 03/10/2015 10:46 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:

Sorry for breaking the thread and top posting w my awful mobile client

Do we have stats showing any difference in traffic to community vs 
user oriented content?


Here are the top 10 posts of all time:

It’s Here! Announcing Fedora 21! -- 38,199
GNOME on Wayland in Fedora 21 -- 34,665
Shellshock update: bash packages that resolve CVE-2014-6271 and 
CVE-2014-7169 available -- 34,417

Shellshock: How does it actually work? -- 30,613
Upgrading to Fedora 21 Workstation from Fedora 20 -- 19,771
Running GNOME 3.12 on Fedora 20. -- 16,368
Rejuvenate your Fedora desktop with Moka -- 13,477
Start developing Android apps on Fedora in 10 minutes -- 12,344
What’s new in the graphics stack in Fedora 21? -- 10,583
See what’s coming in Fedora 22 Workstation -- 9,783

full list here:
http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=postviews&summarize&numdays=-1

--ryanlerch



I'd argue planet.fpo is the contributor version and magazine is 
the user version. I liked Paul's idea of having the default on the 
front page being user focused content instead of all. An idea is that 
the contributor focused stuff could get posted to planet via fedora 
mags rss feed which links back to fedoramag, but not promoted as the 
user content is.


I think youre going to get a better site overall by making a choice 
rather than straddling the two audiences. There is such a dearth of 
Fedora user-focused content in general I really think better to make 
fedoramag for them since they need it. You could better serve 
contributors with some curation on planet.fpo (display planet.fpo 
curated by default?) or by getting individuals already listed on 
planet to make more better posts. (And the hubs, when they are ready :) )


Re underground silo what kinds of critical contributor content are 
you most concerned about?  would planet.fpo not serve that content well?


If the concern is that planet posts are fleeting, could we stand up 
another wp - very informal - for the contrib focused stuff... but no 
front end, brand identity, or anything, just an rss feed to be slurped 
into planet but the posts / comments / stats would be stored in the wp?


~m


Sent from my phone, which is not an iphone.

 Original message 
From: Matthew Miller
Date:03/10/2015 7:04 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Fedora Marketing team
Subject: Re: New Magazine theme

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 05:55:39PM -0400, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> >It does.  One of my concerns has been the invasion of inward-looking
> >Fedora community articles, which seem out of place for appealing to a
> >broad audience.  (e.g. "What's FESCo?")  At first the idea of a
> >separate site appeals to me.
> I really like this idea. It would allow us to have select content
> about the community on the user-facing site, with a link to the post
> on the community-focussed site.

So, what I was going for in suggesting the user/contributor categories
kind of _is_ like having a mini separate site, like this suggestion but
with a lot less overhead both in systems administration and in blog
administration. A whole 'nother site would double the workload, and
we're largely depending on (awesome — thanks!) volunteer efforts for
this as it is.

I'm also concerned with too strong of a divide meaning that the
important contributor-focused articles end up in yet another
underground silo somewhere... we've had a hard enough time building up
the magazine as a place to look.


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Re: proposal: managing editor for Fedora Magazine?

[Vinit Srivastva]

Hey dude,

If I'll get a single mail from you , I'll screw you..

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Ankur Sinha  wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 16:28 +, Chris Roberts wrote:
> > + 100 to this. Ryan has been doing a great job with keeping content
> > flowing and getting the new theme off the ground. Me and him have been
> > working very closely to make sure that it gets test through staging
> > and then once we are good we will push to production.
>
> Another +1k :)
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> Regards,
> Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
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