Re: Self-Introduction: Justin W. Flory

[Justin W. Flory]

On 10/14/2015 04:38 PM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
> No problem, each one can contribute also without any introduction. It's
> required only in the joining process.
> 
> I saw you posts in the magazine; good job! Thank you very much

Thanks, I am looking forward to writing more articles in the future; I
have two more I'm hoping to get out this month for OpenVPN and ZNC. :)

> Cool, I think you don't need any explanation about the content
> creation, so if you wanna know more about the world around the
> magazine, please refer to these pages [1][2]
> 
> I see you already joined our IRC channel, so nothing else to say except
> that we have a ticketing system for assign tasks [3], feel free to file
> a ticket for requests.
> 
> At the moment we're working on the tasks in order to be ready for the
> next fedora release [4].
> 
> I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting something important, but if you have any
> question, you can ask in the IRC channel.

Fantastic, I have all these links bookmarked and I will be looking
through all of them over the next couple of days.

> One of the marketing tasks is to work with ambassadors; being
> ambassador allows you to organize events, in accordance with your
> region.
> 
> Welcome on board Justin!

This works out as I am actually hoping to be in the process to become an
Ambassador soon - hopefully that is in the foreseeable future.

Thanks again, I'm really glad to be here!


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Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement

[Robyn Bergeron]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 01:13:36PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
>> --
>> Remy DeCausemaker
>> 
>> Fedora Community Lead & Council Member
>> http://whatcanidoforfedora.org
>> 308C A504 0B47 1503 C9D9  E670 E633 A79B 0BB0 F6D9
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> > From: "Matthew Miller" 
>> > To: "Fedora + Community + Operations = Fedora CommOps" 
>> > 
>> > Cc: "Fedora Marketing team" 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:33:11 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 05:22:47PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
>> > > I'm new here, so bear with me, but Fedora has been really been making
>> > > the "Friends" foundation a focus of the latest release, by improving
>> > > our infrastructure and community. I realize this is not necessarily
>> > > the distro itself, but there are a few activities that come to mind:
>> > >
>> > >  - We deployed Bodhi2 (5 years in the making, huge performance increases,
>> > >  fine-grained karma, and more...)
>> > >  - D&I - Advisor search ongoing, and we've approved funding to hire two
>> > >  Outreachy interns, helping with Hubs/dev portal & Community Operations
>> > >  (CommOps)
>> > >  - Fedora Hubs has already had a successful intern (mrichards) pave the 
>> > > way
>> > >  for future interns and contributors.
>> > >  - Fedora-bootstrap is our latest project wide CSS and website theme,
>> > >  providing cohesion to our web properties.
>> > >  - Fedmenu is a glimpse into the widgetized future that comes with
>> > >  embeddable widgets via Fedora Hubs
>> > >  - http://whatcanidoforfedora.org is like the Fedora Sorting Hat :)
>> > >  - Fedora Magazine has hit milestone readership and publications (actual
>> > >  numbers TBD)
>> > >  - Others that I am not thinking of at the moment
>> > >
>> > > I know this list above includes things that we have shipped along
>> > > with things we have not yet shipped, but we've made mentionable
>> > > progress on a number of fronts. I dunno if these 'Community'
>> > > improvements are part of a release announcement or not, but they are
>> > > def worth mentioning somewhere (particularly the strides that have
>> > > been made in front-end, and in Rel-eng.)
>> >
>> > Nice angle — I really like this. I had suggested (or, maybe I glommed
>> > onto someone else's suggestion beacause I like the idea — I forget —
>> > anyway, it was suggested) that Fedora development might benefit from a
>> > "tick-tock" cycle, with one release focusing on process improvements,
>> > and the next release focusing on OS features. People weren't, overall,
>> > comfortable with putting Fedora into that model, I think mostly because
>> > feature changes sometimes come faster than that, but also irregularly.
>> > In any case, though I think this is clearly a "tick" release, with more
>> > process and infrastructure improvements than big change within the
>> > actual distribution.
>> >
>> > On a similar note, at FUDCon Lawrence a few years ago, Tim Burke
>> > suggested a "red/yellow/green" model for labeling how much scary change
>> > a release contains. (As an alternative to having major/minor releases.)
>> > I'm not a big fan of that, because I think we're mostly at the point
>> > where even our scary releases are actually very solid and are "green"
>> > in the absolute sense. But from that point of view, this is a "green"
>> > release too. With our current marketing / press  model, which relies on
>> > splashy changes to generate talking points, this ironically means the
>> > releases we'd like _most_ to get into the hands of users get less
>> > attention.
>> >
>> > So anyway, that's a long way of saying that, yeah, I like the general
>> > idea. I'm not sure a list of technical infrastructure improvements will
>> > play any better with the press than a list of software version bumps,
>> > though. Open to ideas. :)
>>
>> I'm also open to ideas. I think that getting a solid list of
>> improvements and performance enhancements from Fedora-infra about
>> Bodhi2 would a great section to include in the notes. It's kinda
>> meta, but still such an epic set of improvements from a 5 year
>> undertaking.
>>
>> I'll reach out to the Infra team and try to get some
>> stats/metrics/facts/bullet points.
>>
>> Same for some bullet points on the Fedora-boostrap redesign
>> too. We're making a common look/feel, and it is helping to provide
>> some cohesion in our web properties.
>>
>> I'll also reach out to the Magazine folks, and see if I can get some
>> quick bulletpoints/stats for readers/articles published.
>
> I don't think we want to conflate the audience that wants to know how
> much better the sausage tastes, with the people that care about
> improvements to the sausage making equipment.

+1 to this. Release announcements are already long-ish as it is. I
think there's a nice line to walk between having personality and not
being boring, informative w

Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 05:22:47PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
> Drawing on the motto could be good ammo. In our 1x1 today, mattdm was
> lamenting the lack of punability that was previously afforded by
> having release names, so having some other device will be helpful :)

Another possibility is to go Halloween themed. We haven't had a release
GA in October since Fedora Core 6 ("Zod!").

Counting on that too soon might be jinxing it, though. :)


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Re: Magazine theme updates

[Ryan Lerch]

On 10/15/2015 02:22 AM, Jason Brooks wrote:


- Original Message -

From: "Ryan Lerch" 
To: "Fedora Marketing team" 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:28:56 PM
Subject: Magazine theme updates

Hi all,

I have been working on the magazine theme, trying to get a bit of
functionaltuy in place for the upcoming systemd series.

Here is a quick test of it working on a sample wordpress:

http://fedoramagazine-rlerch.rhcloud.com/2015/10/09/systemd-article-1/

It uses a wordpress custom taxonomy to group the posts and display them
in the sidebar if a post is part of a series.

That's a nice feature -- looks good!

One bit of comment on the theme more generally -- I really like to see
date and author up near the top of a page. Those bits of information
are extremely important when you see a post and decide whether or
not to read on. Old posts are worth much less than current posts,
and a trusted/recognizable name goes a long way to establishing
interest -- I get annoyed when I have to scroll around for this info.

I mention it here because when I saw the subject line, this is one
of the updates I was wishing to see. :)


Regards, Jason


Awesome! I have created a feature request in the theme issue tracker here:

https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme/issue/1

Also, everyone else feel free to file bugs / feature requests against 
the theme there too!


cheers,
ryanlerch




You can create a new series in the menu item in the dashboard Posts >
Post Series, and then you can add posts to a specific series in the editor.

In another quick edit in this version of the theme, i changed the recent
posts widget so it doesnt show the post you are viewing in the recent posts.

Will try to get this version of the theme up on the stage ASAP so you
all can have a proper look at it.

cheer,s
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Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement

[Robyn Bergeron]

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Matthew Miller
 wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 04:58:19PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
>> I, however, have never created a Final release announcement, and am
>> not entirely sure what all goes into officially making one, other
>> than this list of general tasks here:
>> https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html
>
> In the past, it's been either a collaborative effort of marketing, and
> in other times, it's been the inspired pen of the FPL. See for example
> this:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_announcement
>
> which, let's be honest, we will never top.


To be fair:
* FC5 
(http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2006-March/msg00027.html)
* F6 
(http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2006-October/msg8.html)
* F7 
(http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2007-May/msg9.html)
* F9 
(http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-May/msg7.html)
* F11 
(https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg6.html)

... were all outstanding.

F8 may still be my favorite:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2007-November/msg6.html

I am guessing F10 was awesome too, but I can't find that one.

:)

-robyn

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Re: Systemd series -- need writers!

[Chaoyi Zha]

I love this idea. I'm interested in doing #5, this is something that has
been super useful for me

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 at 17:59 Bryan Sutherland 
wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Paul W. Frields 
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 01:49:32PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>> > On 10/13/2015 03:49 AM, Bryan Sutherland wrote:
>> > >Will be Tuesday - Late Tuesday.  With that said, can someone please
>> top me
>> > >up with some editor privileges on the Magazine?
>> > >
>> > >Cheers
>> > >
>> > I think we got the permissions sorted now  via IRC.
>> >
>> > I think I have also solved the issue where people with Author status
>> couldnt
>> > preview posts. The permission that was not being given to authors was
>> the
>> > ability to edit others posts (unpublished). I have fixed this now, and
>> > authors should be able to preview posts in the meetings :)
>>
>> Thanks for doing this, Ryan.
>>
>>
> ​
> Hey Ryan,
> The first draft of the Part 2 article has been posted up. There is still
> some work to do though :)
>
> FYI, you can find my article scribbles here:
> https://pagure.io/fmag-articles​
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Re: Magazine theme updates

[Chaoyi Zha]

Great work!

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 at 18:02 Bryan Sutherland 
wrote:

>
> Bryan, you should be able to preview it, but it's not covering
>> anything in the future parts of the series.  Just an explanation of
>> what systemd is, how it initializes the system, and noting that a
>> series of articles will be coming up to give tips and info.
>>
>> http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10202&preview=true
>>
>> 
>>
>
> Gotcha, Thanks Paul
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Re: Magazine theme updates

[Bryan Sutherland]

> Bryan, you should be able to preview it, but it's not covering
> anything in the future parts of the series.  Just an explanation of
> what systemd is, how it initializes the system, and noting that a
> series of articles will be coming up to give tips and info.
>
> http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10202&preview=true
>
> 
>

Gotcha, Thanks Paul
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Re: Systemd series -- need writers!

[Bryan Sutherland]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Paul W. Frields 
wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 01:49:32PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> > On 10/13/2015 03:49 AM, Bryan Sutherland wrote:
> > >Will be Tuesday - Late Tuesday.  With that said, can someone please top
> me
> > >up with some editor privileges on the Magazine?
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > I think we got the permissions sorted now  via IRC.
> >
> > I think I have also solved the issue where people with Author status
> couldnt
> > preview posts. The permission that was not being given to authors was the
> > ability to edit others posts (unpublished). I have fixed this now, and
> > authors should be able to preview posts in the meetings :)
>
> Thanks for doing this, Ryan.
>
>
​
Hey Ryan,
The first draft of the Part 2 article has been posted up. There is still
some work to do though :)

FYI, you can find my article scribbles here: https://pagure.io/fmag-articles
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Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 01:13:36PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
> --
> Remy DeCausemaker 
> 
> Fedora Community Lead & Council Member
> http://whatcanidoforfedora.org
> 308C A504 0B47 1503 C9D9  E670 E633 A79B 0BB0 F6D9
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Matthew Miller" 
> > To: "Fedora + Community + Operations = Fedora CommOps" 
> > 
> > Cc: "Fedora Marketing team" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:33:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 05:22:47PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
> > > I'm new here, so bear with me, but Fedora has been really been making
> > > the "Friends" foundation a focus of the latest release, by improving
> > > our infrastructure and community. I realize this is not necessarily
> > > the distro itself, but there are a few activities that come to mind:
> > > 
> > >  - We deployed Bodhi2 (5 years in the making, huge performance increases,
> > >  fine-grained karma, and more...)
> > >  - D&I - Advisor search ongoing, and we've approved funding to hire two
> > >  Outreachy interns, helping with Hubs/dev portal & Community Operations
> > >  (CommOps)
> > >  - Fedora Hubs has already had a successful intern (mrichards) pave the 
> > > way
> > >  for future interns and contributors.
> > >  - Fedora-bootstrap is our latest project wide CSS and website theme,
> > >  providing cohesion to our web properties.
> > >  - Fedmenu is a glimpse into the widgetized future that comes with
> > >  embeddable widgets via Fedora Hubs
> > >  - http://whatcanidoforfedora.org is like the Fedora Sorting Hat :)
> > >  - Fedora Magazine has hit milestone readership and publications (actual
> > >  numbers TBD)
> > >  - Others that I am not thinking of at the moment
> > > 
> > > I know this list above includes things that we have shipped along
> > > with things we have not yet shipped, but we've made mentionable
> > > progress on a number of fronts. I dunno if these 'Community'
> > > improvements are part of a release announcement or not, but they are
> > > def worth mentioning somewhere (particularly the strides that have
> > > been made in front-end, and in Rel-eng.)
> > 
> > Nice angle — I really like this. I had suggested (or, maybe I glommed
> > onto someone else's suggestion beacause I like the idea — I forget —
> > anyway, it was suggested) that Fedora development might benefit from a
> > "tick-tock" cycle, with one release focusing on process improvements,
> > and the next release focusing on OS features. People weren't, overall,
> > comfortable with putting Fedora into that model, I think mostly because
> > feature changes sometimes come faster than that, but also irregularly.
> > In any case, though I think this is clearly a "tick" release, with more
> > process and infrastructure improvements than big change within the
> > actual distribution.
> > 
> > On a similar note, at FUDCon Lawrence a few years ago, Tim Burke
> > suggested a "red/yellow/green" model for labeling how much scary change
> > a release contains. (As an alternative to having major/minor releases.)
> > I'm not a big fan of that, because I think we're mostly at the point
> > where even our scary releases are actually very solid and are "green"
> > in the absolute sense. But from that point of view, this is a "green"
> > release too. With our current marketing / press  model, which relies on
> > splashy changes to generate talking points, this ironically means the
> > releases we'd like _most_ to get into the hands of users get less
> > attention.
> > 
> > So anyway, that's a long way of saying that, yeah, I like the general
> > idea. I'm not sure a list of technical infrastructure improvements will
> > play any better with the press than a list of software version bumps,
> > though. Open to ideas. :)
> 
> I'm also open to ideas. I think that getting a solid list of
> improvements and performance enhancements from Fedora-infra about
> Bodhi2 would a great section to include in the notes. It's kinda
> meta, but still such an epic set of improvements from a 5 year
> undertaking.
> 
> I'll reach out to the Infra team and try to get some
> stats/metrics/facts/bullet points.
> 
> Same for some bullet points on the Fedora-boostrap redesign
> too. We're making a common look/feel, and it is helping to provide
> some cohesion in our web properties.
> 
> I'll also reach out to the Magazine folks, and see if I can get some
> quick bulletpoints/stats for readers/articles published.

I don't think we want to conflate the audience that wants to know how
much better the sausage tastes, with the people that care about
improvements to the sausage making equipment.

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Re: Magazine theme updates

[Paul W. Frields]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 01:47:45PM -0400, Bryan Sutherland wrote:
> Looking Great!
> 
> Paul, what parts are you going to be covering?

Bryan, you should be able to preview it, but it's not covering
anything in the future parts of the series.  Just an explanation of
what systemd is, how it initializes the system, and noting that a
series of articles will be coming up to give tips and info.

http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10202&preview=true

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Re: Systemd series -- need writers!

[Paul W. Frields]

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 01:49:32PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> On 10/13/2015 03:49 AM, Bryan Sutherland wrote:
> >Will be Tuesday - Late Tuesday.  With that said, can someone please top me
> >up with some editor privileges on the Magazine?
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> I think we got the permissions sorted now  via IRC.
> 
> I think I have also solved the issue where people with Author status couldnt
> preview posts. The permission that was not being given to authors was the
> ability to edit others posts (unpublished). I have fixed this now, and
> authors should be able to preview posts in the meetings :)

Thanks for doing this, Ryan.

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Re: Self-Introduction: Justin W. Flory

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno mer, 14/10/2015 alle 15.48 -0400, Justin W. Flory ha scritto:
> Hello all,


Hello Justin!

> 
> I was going through the wiki for joining the marketing group, and 
> realized that I never formally introduced myself to the list,
> although 
> I've been posting intermittently for Fedora Magazine / other misc. 
> things. So I figured better late than never.

No problem, each one can contribute also without any introduction. It's
required only in the joining process.

I saw you posts in the magazine; good job! Thank you very much

[cut]




> This is my first marketing project that I've wanted to participate
> with, 
> and I do not have a formal background in marketing, but it is an area
> that interests me greatly as I think it's one of the most important 
> aspects of any project, especially in open-source.

There's no need to have background or specific skills, no worries.

> 
> The skills that I hope to be able to utilize in the Fedora Marketing 
> group are:
> - Content Creation (Fedora Magazine, Fedora Planet, etc.)
> - University Outreach Initiative (and assisting with any projects / 
> planning for that initiative if possible)
> - I'm also very open to learning new things and acquiring new skills,
> particularly in terms of marketing in an open-source project

Cool, I think you don't need any explanation about the content
creation, so if you wanna know more about the world around the
magazine, please refer to these pages [1][2]

I see you already joined our IRC channel, so nothing else to say except
that we have a ticketing system for assign tasks [3], feel free to file
a ticket for requests.

At the moment we're working on the tasks in order to be ready for the
next fedora release [4].

I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting something important, but if you have any
question, you can ask in the IRC channel.

[cut]

>  I'm very interested in working with someone to 
> organize events not only at RIT, but possibly at other schools in the
> area.
> 
> On that note, I haven't been able to find any official planning area
> for 
> work being done on this Initiative, so I was also curious to where 
> planning or discussion is mostly happening for this initiative.
> 
> I am very happy to be a part of this awesome project and the
> community 
> that surrounds it. I'm tired of sitting around in the sidelines and I
> want to have an active role with helping Fedora to the best of my 
> abilities. I'm looking forward to working with this group in the near
> and long-term future!

One of the marketing tasks is to work with ambassadors; being
ambassador allows you to organize events, in accordance with your
region.

Welcome on board Justin!

See you soon.

Gabri

[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing
[2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks_and_roles (to be updated)
[3]https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/report
[4]https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html


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Re: getfedora.org tagline change proposal

[Chaoyi Zha]

Hmm. I think that is a bit redundant. I'm not sure how well our four
foundations sound in the context of a tagline,  but I think pushing each of
our flavours is a good idea.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 3:37 PM Matthew Miller 
wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 07:19:52PM +, Chaoyi Zha wrote:
> > Ah,  I like that. Maybe something like
> > "Cutting-edge innovation for your server, workstation, and cloud."
>
> Possibly I need some sleep, but what about rotating between
>
>Fedora is Freedom for your workstation, your servers, and the cloud
>Fedora is Friends for your workstation, your servers, and the cloud
>Fedora is Features for your workstation, your servers, and the cloud
>Fedora is First for your workstation, your servers, and the cloud
>
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Self-Introduction: Justin W. Flory

[Justin W. Flory]

Hello all,

I was going through the wiki for joining the marketing group, and 
realized that I never formally introduced myself to the list, although 
I've been posting intermittently for Fedora Magazine / other misc. 
things. So I figured better late than never.


My name is Justin W. Flory and I am currently living in Rochester, NY as 
a first-year student at the Rochester Institute of Technology (majoring 
in Networking and Systems Administration). My FAS username / IRC nick / 
general online handle is jflory7.


I've been lurking in the channels and mailing lists since early 2014 or 
so, but after attending this year's Flock in Rochester, I've been trying 
to become more active (it was really easy after meeting all of the 
awesome people at this year's Flock!) and contribute in any way that I 
can to the Fedora Project. So far, I've found myself involved with 
marketing activities the most of all the different areas of Fedora, so I 
feel like this is the best group for me to join.


This is my second FOSS project that I am looking at contributing 
towards. My first project that I spend a good amount of time with is 
with the SpigotMC project, which is a Java-based Minecraft server 
software. I do not assist with the development, but I am a community 
moderator and have a great deal of experience with interacting with the 
community over there. Indirectly because of Spigot, that's actually I 
stumbled into using Fedora close to two years ago.


This is my first marketing project that I've wanted to participate with, 
and I do not have a formal background in marketing, but it is an area 
that interests me greatly as I think it's one of the most important 
aspects of any project, especially in open-source.


The skills that I hope to be able to utilize in the Fedora Marketing 
group are:

- Content Creation (Fedora Magazine, Fedora Planet, etc.)
- University Outreach Initiative (and assisting with any projects / 
planning for that initiative if possible)
- I'm also very open to learning new things and acquiring new skills, 
particularly in terms of marketing in an open-source project


When I am not working on Fedora, I am a student at RIT (participating in 
the university Linux Users Group, the local FOSS community, and more) as 
well as running my own Minecraft server and working on other projects 
for Spigot (my current task with Spigot is working on migrating our wiki 
to a new platform).


A few goals that I have for the Fedora Project are mostly concerned with 
the University Outreach Initiative - when I sat in on most of the talks 
at Flock about this, they greatly interested me and I wanted to help 
spread the awesomeness of free and open-source software and the culture 
it represents with other students, and to help make it a more prevalent 
concept in education. I'm very interested in working with someone to 
organize events not only at RIT, but possibly at other schools in the area.


On that note, I haven't been able to find any official planning area for 
work being done on this Initiative, so I was also curious to where 
planning or discussion is mostly happening for this initiative.


I am very happy to be a part of this awesome project and the community 
that surrounds it. I'm tired of sitting around in the sidelines and I 
want to have an active role with helping Fedora to the best of my 
abilities. I'm looking forward to working with this group in the near 
and long-term future!


Thanks for your time and patience for reading this long email.


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Re: getfedora.org tagline change proposal

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 07:19:52PM +, Chaoyi Zha wrote:
> Ah,  I like that. Maybe something like
> "Cutting-edge innovation for your server, workstation, and cloud."

Possibly I need some sleep, but what about rotating between
 
   Fedora is Freedom for your workstation, your servers, and the cloud
   Fedora is Friends for your workstation, your servers, and the cloud
   Fedora is Features for your workstation, your servers, and the cloud
   Fedora is First for your workstation, your servers, and the cloud
   

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Re: getfedora.org tagline change proposal

[Justin W. Flory]

Going off that, an idea that came to my head with that is "Cutting-edge 
innovation from the ground up" with an infographic from workstation => 
server => cloud. To play off of that pun. :P



Cheers,


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On 10/14/2015 03:19 PM, Chaoyi Zha wrote:

Ah,  I like that. Maybe something like

"Cutting-edge innovation for your server, workstation, and cloud."


On Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 12:48 PM Matthew Miller mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:23:34PM +, Chaoyi Zha wrote:
 > @mattdm: We could possibly go with "one OS for the workstation,
server, and
 > cloud", while explaining the use cases in more detail in the
subtext below.
 > I don't think extending the tagline with our use cases embedded
in them
 > would create a succinct statement, but I absolutely think we
should try to
 > appeal to newer users by avoiding "distribution" :)

I'm definitely in favor of refreshing it. And I'm not unhappy with that
suggestion, but I wonder if "oneness" is the aspect we want to be
pushing.

"The best OS for..."?

"Leading-edge innovation for..."

"Solve your problems with Fedora... something something."



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Re: getfedora.org tagline change proposal

[Chaoyi Zha]

Ah,  I like that. Maybe something like

"Cutting-edge innovation for your server, workstation, and cloud."

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 12:48 PM Matthew Miller 
wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:23:34PM +, Chaoyi Zha wrote:
> > @mattdm: We could possibly go with "one OS for the workstation, server,
> and
> > cloud", while explaining the use cases in more detail in the subtext
> below.
> > I don't think extending the tagline with our use cases embedded in them
> > would create a succinct statement, but I absolutely think we should try
> to
> > appeal to newer users by avoiding "distribution" :)
>
> I'm definitely in favor of refreshing it. And I'm not unhappy with that
> suggestion, but I wonder if "oneness" is the aspect we want to be
> pushing.
>
>"The best OS for..."?
>
>"Leading-edge innovation for..."
>
>"Solve your problems with Fedora... something something."
>
>
>
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Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement

[Remy DeCausemaker]

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- Original Message -
> From: "Matthew Miller" 
> To: "Fedora + Community + Operations = Fedora CommOps" 
> 
> Cc: "Fedora Marketing team" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:33:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 05:22:47PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
> > I'm new here, so bear with me, but Fedora has been really been making
> > the "Friends" foundation a focus of the latest release, by improving
> > our infrastructure and community. I realize this is not necessarily
> > the distro itself, but there are a few activities that come to mind:
> > 
> >  - We deployed Bodhi2 (5 years in the making, huge performance increases,
> >  fine-grained karma, and more...)
> >  - D&I - Advisor search ongoing, and we've approved funding to hire two
> >  Outreachy interns, helping with Hubs/dev portal & Community Operations
> >  (CommOps)
> >  - Fedora Hubs has already had a successful intern (mrichards) pave the way
> >  for future interns and contributors.
> >  - Fedora-bootstrap is our latest project wide CSS and website theme,
> >  providing cohesion to our web properties.
> >  - Fedmenu is a glimpse into the widgetized future that comes with
> >  embeddable widgets via Fedora Hubs
> >  - http://whatcanidoforfedora.org is like the Fedora Sorting Hat :)
> >  - Fedora Magazine has hit milestone readership and publications (actual
> >  numbers TBD)
> >  - Others that I am not thinking of at the moment
> > 
> > I know this list above includes things that we have shipped along
> > with things we have not yet shipped, but we've made mentionable
> > progress on a number of fronts. I dunno if these 'Community'
> > improvements are part of a release announcement or not, but they are
> > def worth mentioning somewhere (particularly the strides that have
> > been made in front-end, and in Rel-eng.)
> 
> Nice angle — I really like this. I had suggested (or, maybe I glommed
> onto someone else's suggestion beacause I like the idea — I forget —
> anyway, it was suggested) that Fedora development might benefit from a
> "tick-tock" cycle, with one release focusing on process improvements,
> and the next release focusing on OS features. People weren't, overall,
> comfortable with putting Fedora into that model, I think mostly because
> feature changes sometimes come faster than that, but also irregularly.
> In any case, though I think this is clearly a "tick" release, with more
> process and infrastructure improvements than big change within the
> actual distribution.
> 
> On a similar note, at FUDCon Lawrence a few years ago, Tim Burke
> suggested a "red/yellow/green" model for labeling how much scary change
> a release contains. (As an alternative to having major/minor releases.)
> I'm not a big fan of that, because I think we're mostly at the point
> where even our scary releases are actually very solid and are "green"
> in the absolute sense. But from that point of view, this is a "green"
> release too. With our current marketing / press  model, which relies on
> splashy changes to generate talking points, this ironically means the
> releases we'd like _most_ to get into the hands of users get less
> attention.
> 
> So anyway, that's a long way of saying that, yeah, I like the general
> idea. I'm not sure a list of technical infrastructure improvements will
> play any better with the press than a list of software version bumps,
> though. Open to ideas. :)

I'm also open to ideas. I think that getting a solid list of improvements and 
performance enhancements from Fedora-infra about Bodhi2 would a great section 
to include in the notes. It's kinda meta, but still such an epic set of 
improvements from a 5 year undertaking.

I'll reach out to the Infra team and try to get some stats/metrics/facts/bullet 
points.

Same for some bullet points on the Fedora-boostrap redesign too. We're making a 
common look/feel, and it is helping to provide some cohesion in our web 
properties.

I'll also reach out to the Magazine folks, and see if I can get some quick 
bulletpoints/stats for readers/articles published.

> 
> 
> 
> > Is there a standard template for asking the WG's and Subprojects for
> > their bulletpoints? Do we even need to do that, or do we just take
> > the beta notes, and then fancy them up a bit at this point?
> 
> Beta notes make a good starting point, but I'd say fancy them up _a
> lot_. :)
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In a previous post, mattdm asked if this should be going to both mktg + commops 
lists. I reckon, until commops list reaches critical mass, I think keeping 
traffic on both lists for now is a good i

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Magazine editorial board

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Dear all,

You are kindly invited to the meeting:
   Magazine editorial board on 2015-10-15 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 
America/New_York
   At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net

The meeting will be about:
This meeting is for editors of the [Fedora Magazine](http://fedoramagazine.org) 
site. The agenda primarily consists of deciding, assigning, and scheduling 
posts for the upcoming weeks.

More information available at:
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine)


Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/2876/

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Re: getfedora.org tagline change proposal

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:23:34PM +, Chaoyi Zha wrote:
> @mattdm: We could possibly go with "one OS for the workstation, server, and
> cloud", while explaining the use cases in more detail in the subtext below.
> I don't think extending the tagline with our use cases embedded in them
> would create a succinct statement, but I absolutely think we should try to
> appeal to newer users by avoiding "distribution" :)

I'm definitely in favor of refreshing it. And I'm not unhappy with that
suggestion, but I wonder if "oneness" is the aspect we want to be
pushing.

   "The best OS for..."?

   "Leading-edge innovation for..." 

   "Solve your problems with Fedora... something something."



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Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 05:22:47PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
> I'm new here, so bear with me, but Fedora has been really been making
> the "Friends" foundation a focus of the latest release, by improving
> our infrastructure and community. I realize this is not necessarily
> the distro itself, but there are a few activities that come to mind:
> 
>  - We deployed Bodhi2 (5 years in the making, huge performance increases, 
> fine-grained karma, and more...)
>  - D&I - Advisor search ongoing, and we've approved funding to hire two 
> Outreachy interns, helping with Hubs/dev portal & Community Operations 
> (CommOps)
>  - Fedora Hubs has already had a successful intern (mrichards) pave the way 
> for future interns and contributors.
>  - Fedora-bootstrap is our latest project wide CSS and website theme, 
> providing cohesion to our web properties.
>  - Fedmenu is a glimpse into the widgetized future that comes with embeddable 
> widgets via Fedora Hubs
>  - http://whatcanidoforfedora.org is like the Fedora Sorting Hat :)
>  - Fedora Magazine has hit milestone readership and publications (actual 
> numbers TBD)
>  - Others that I am not thinking of at the moment
> 
> I know this list above includes things that we have shipped along
> with things we have not yet shipped, but we've made mentionable
> progress on a number of fronts. I dunno if these 'Community'
> improvements are part of a release announcement or not, but they are
> def worth mentioning somewhere (particularly the strides that have
> been made in front-end, and in Rel-eng.)

Nice angle — I really like this. I had suggested (or, maybe I glommed
onto someone else's suggestion beacause I like the idea — I forget —
anyway, it was suggested) that Fedora development might benefit from a
"tick-tock" cycle, with one release focusing on process improvements,
and the next release focusing on OS features. People weren't, overall,
comfortable with putting Fedora into that model, I think mostly because
feature changes sometimes come faster than that, but also irregularly.
In any case, though I think this is clearly a "tick" release, with more
process and infrastructure improvements than big change within the
actual distribution.

On a similar note, at FUDCon Lawrence a few years ago, Tim Burke
suggested a "red/yellow/green" model for labeling how much scary change
a release contains. (As an alternative to having major/minor releases.)
I'm not a big fan of that, because I think we're mostly at the point
where even our scary releases are actually very solid and are "green"
in the absolute sense. But from that point of view, this is a "green"
release too. With our current marketing / press  model, which relies on
splashy changes to generate talking points, this ironically means the
releases we'd like _most_ to get into the hands of users get less
attention.

So anyway, that's a long way of saying that, yeah, I like the general
idea. I'm not sure a list of technical infrastructure improvements will
play any better with the press than a list of software version bumps,
though. Open to ideas. :)



> Is there a standard template for asking the WG's and Subprojects for
> their bulletpoints? Do we even need to do that, or do we just take
> the beta notes, and then fancy them up a bit at this point?

Beta notes make a good starting point, but I'd say fancy them up _a
lot_. :)

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Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement

[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 04:58:19PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
> This is a task that the CommOps team wants to help tackle. It makes
> sense for CommOps to help it because it is a community effort that
> spans across many teams and subprojects. I have added Release notes
> to our wiki page here:

Cool, thanks. I note that you CC'd the marking list but that got lost
in further replies. Mailing lists are awkward this way, and Fedora has
a crazy sprawl of them. In the interest of keeping this in one place,
would you rather keep this to the commops list, or rather use that for
higher-level coordination and do the actual discussion on the marketing
list (or in the future whichever list is most relevant)?

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Re: Magazine theme updates

[Jason Brooks]

- Original Message -
> From: "Ryan Lerch" 
> To: "Fedora Marketing team" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:28:56 PM
> Subject: Magazine theme updates
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been working on the magazine theme, trying to get a bit of
> functionaltuy in place for the upcoming systemd series.
> 
> Here is a quick test of it working on a sample wordpress:
> 
> http://fedoramagazine-rlerch.rhcloud.com/2015/10/09/systemd-article-1/
> 
> It uses a wordpress custom taxonomy to group the posts and display them
> in the sidebar if a post is part of a series.

That's a nice feature -- looks good!

One bit of comment on the theme more generally -- I really like to see
date and author up near the top of a page. Those bits of information
are extremely important when you see a post and decide whether or 
not to read on. Old posts are worth much less than current posts,
and a trusted/recognizable name goes a long way to establishing
interest -- I get annoyed when I have to scroll around for this info.

I mention it here because when I saw the subject line, this is one 
of the updates I was wishing to see. :)


Regards, Jason

> 
> You can create a new series in the menu item in the dashboard Posts >
> Post Series, and then you can add posts to a specific series in the editor.
> 
> In another quick edit in this version of the theme, i changed the recent
> posts widget so it doesnt show the post you are viewing in the recent posts.
> 
> Will try to get this version of the theme up on the stage ASAP so you
> all can have a proper look at it.
> 
> cheer,s
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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Flock software update

[William Moreno]

I just want to note than the Fudcon Latam site have been using a build in
house app for the event, it was developed by @echevemaster and maybe with
some work can be used for the Flock Event.

Fudcon Latam site: http://fudconlatam.org/
Source Code: https://github.com/echevemaster/fudcon
MIT License: https://github.com/echevemaster/fudcon/blob/master/LICENSE

2015-10-14 9:00 GMT-06:00 :

> Dear all,
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Flock software update on 2015-10-15 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00
> America/New_York
>At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net
>
> The meeting will be about:
> Goals for this meeting:
> * Discuss any additional software testing updates
> * Make a decision on whether to move forward with new software, and if so,
> which to use
>
> More information available at:
> [
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock_2016_software](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock_2016_software)
>
>
> Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/2914/
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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Flock software update

[stickster]

Dear all,

You are kindly invited to the meeting:
   Flock software update on 2015-10-15 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 
America/New_York
   At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net

The meeting will be about:
Goals for this meeting:
* Discuss any additional software testing updates
* Make a decision on whether to move forward with new software, and if so, 
which to use

More information available at:
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock_2016_software](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock_2016_software)


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Re: 'Getting Started with Fedora' handbook

[Paul W. Frields]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 06:06:18PM +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> Hi,
> at Flock, I announced 'Getting Started with Fedora' handbook [1]. We
> recently released it and printed 1000 copies. Several hundred of them
> are already gone and at LinuxDays in Prague they were very popular. The
> handbook is in Czech and it meant to be a pilot project and if the
> result is successful we'd like to translate it to English, so that it
> can be translated to other languages later.
> 
> Now comes the time. I'm looking for people who would like to help us
> with it. One thing is translating it to English (we have TeX sources
> [2]), another thing is to find some viable solution for translating to
> multiple languages, handling updates etc. May Zanata help us here?
> 
> Jiri
> 
> [1] https://sesivany.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/11224288_1020659767613
> 4664_1988108589250032943_o.jpg
> 
> [2] https://github.com/celestian/fedora_handbook/

Since TeX is a typesetting system, it's not an optimal choice for
translating content.  Zanata doesn't look able to handle it:

"Supported formats include Gettext Portable Object (.po), Java
Properties (.properties), XLIFF, Mozilla DTD, LibreOffice (.odt .fodt
.odp .fodp .ods .fods .odg .fodg .odb .odf) and plain text (.txt)."
(from )

Is there a way to get from TeX souce to a .po, for example?

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