Re: [commops] Community Blog Python 3 FAD Article

[Ryan Lerch]

On 11/11/2015 02:18 PM, Justin W. Flory wrote:

Hello all,

Thanks to Matt's quick responses to the interview questions, I was able
to write up a preliminary draft of an article for the Community Blog
about the upcoming Fedora Activity Day for Python 3 package porting. It
is set to occur over this weekend, so I would like to aim for it be
pushed out Thursday morning, Friday at the latest.

 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=91&preview=true

I would appreciate if some other people wanted to give it a quick
look-over or make a featured image since I think this is a pretty
notable topic. Some of the content is missing (e.g. why Python 3 over
Python 2?) and I am hoping to have that filled in over the next day or
so. Otherwise, it's pretty content-complete.

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Looking good!

I did a little work to the opening paragraph to try to include a call to 
action in the opening paragraph. Wanted to give the reader the call at 
the top too just in case they don't read further. I left the call to 
action you had at the bottom too -- doesnt hurt to have two :)


Also, added some start times (i guessed these, we will need to check 
them) -- and found a plugin that also shows the time in the user's 
timezone which seems pretty neat and useful :)


i'm not too worried about cover images on the Community blog, TBH, as we 
have the whole posts in the stream rather than the cards like on the 
magazine. But if you want a coverimage, i can whip one up.


Also, might need to mess with the blockquote style, as it seems the bg 
color for them is the same as the post bodies, and it looks a little werid.


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Community Blog Python 3 FAD Article

[Justin W. Flory]

Hello all,

Thanks to Matt's quick responses to the interview questions, I was able
to write up a preliminary draft of an article for the Community Blog
about the upcoming Fedora Activity Day for Python 3 package porting. It
is set to occur over this weekend, so I would like to aim for it be
pushed out Thursday morning, Friday at the latest.

https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=91&preview=true

I would appreciate if some other people wanted to give it a quick
look-over or make a featured image since I think this is a pretty
notable topic. Some of the content is missing (e.g. why Python 3 over
Python 2?) and I am hoping to have that filled in over the next day or
so. Otherwise, it's pretty content-complete.

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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Ryan Lerch]

On 11/11/2015 12:11 PM, Patrick Uiterwijk wrote:

With this in mind, personally, I feel like link shorteners are not
necessary then. If we can get the stats, I personally think it's not a
bad idea to avoid them.


Two small remarks:
1. I am personally also in favor of using t.co instead of another shortener
for security reasons (visibility etc).
2. Per the t.co support page[1], t.co is ONLY used when tweets are posted
through twitter.com. I don't know how tweets are currently placed, but that
should be taken into account if it's not through twitter.com.
Yeah, i read that too -- i think that by twitter.com they mean twitter, 
because in practise, every tweet i post to twitter is wrapped in t.co 
--  doesnt matter if i use the android client, the corebird 3rd party 
client, the webapp, or via a python script -- all links are t.co/


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[1]: https://support.twitter.com/articles/109623

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Re: FYI: Scheduled posts (should be) working now

[Patrick Uiterwijk]

> Wooo, thanks Patrick for fixing this! As of lately, it seems like every
> time we mention a problem, it almost seems like you fix it. ;) If
> anything else comes up, I'll definitely visit the Trac for future issues.
> 
> puiterwijk++
> 

And it seems that I sent a link to the wrong trac.
The trac that's Actually used for the magazine bugs is marketing-team[1].
I think the one I sent earlier has never been actively used, and the
marketing-team one has a Magazine component.


[1]: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/

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Re: FYI: Scheduled posts (should be) working now

[Justin W. Flory]

On 11/10/2015 09:05 PM, Patrick Uiterwijk wrote:

Hi all,

I also mentioned this on IRC, but thought that for completion's sake, and to 
not surprise
anyone by stuff suddenly actually working, I would also mention it here: as of earlier 
"today",
(for some definition of today, probably U.S.), scheduled posts on the magazine 
should actually
work again, and will verify that it does.
Just a headsup so that people aren't surprised when scheduled posts actually go 
up without having
to manually hit Publish (like what happened when I fixed it. I think Paul 
wasn't fond of the surprise,
sorry for fixing it :-) ).

Also, quick reminder: if you see any bugs with Magazine, please file them as 
tickets at [1] so that
me or croberts (in case of server stuff) or someone else (all other stuff) can 
take a look.


[1]: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-magazine/

With kind regards,
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Fedora Infra


Wooo, thanks Patrick for fixing this! As of lately, it seems like every 
time we mention a problem, it almost seems like you fix it. ;) If 
anything else comes up, I'll definitely visit the Trac for future issues.


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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Patrick Uiterwijk]

> With this in mind, personally, I feel like link shorteners are not
> necessary then. If we can get the stats, I personally think it's not a
> bad idea to avoid them.
> 

Two small remarks:
1. I am personally also in favor of using t.co instead of another shortener
for security reasons (visibility etc).
2. Per the t.co support page[1], t.co is ONLY used when tweets are posted
through twitter.com. I don't know how tweets are currently placed, but that
should be taken into account if it's not through twitter.com.


[1]: https://support.twitter.com/articles/109623

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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Ryan Lerch]

On 11/11/2015 11:58 AM, Patrick Uiterwijk wrote:

Hi all,


On 11/10/2015 08:33 PM, Lord Drachenblut wrote:

There is one reason for using ow.ly  URL shortener and
that is it allows the person posting via hootsuite to track engagement
with a post.  I would rather see a URL shortener that is fedora branded
being used if possible.

This was the major point I was thinking of mentioning. Personally, I
feel like link shorteners are only necessary if they're being utilized
to collect statistics and metrics. Judging by the context of this
thread, do we know who has the keys to the Hootsuite? I feel like social
media engagement statistics are something that could be an invaluable
resource to gauging which of our social media posts are effective and
which ones aren't as engaged.

So, I am not aware of who holds the keys to Hootsuite, but for stats tracking
this would not be required.
If we would just use t.co, Wordpress statistics that we have should see the
items coming in just fine through the http referrer header.


If this *is* already happening, then the above paragraph can be
disregarded. In the case that statistics and metrics are being tracked,
I personally vote to abstain from using link shorteners except where
information about engagements and interactions are actually being utilized.

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Yeah, not sure who owns the keys, or uses it either -- maybe jzb?

Also, it appears that it is only being used to post to twitter, as the 
posts with ow.ly shortened links only appear on Twitter, not facebook 
and g+, So even if the reasoning is to track engagements there is no 
reason why, if you wanted to do this, that you can do it in the twitter 
interface.


Twitter now gives you quite detailed insights on posts, for example the 
post that i linked to eariler in the thread has these stats:



Impressions 3,607
Total engagements 175
Link clicks  129
Detail expands 18
Retweets   12
Profile clicks   10
Likes   5
Replies   1

Google+ and Facebook also do this to some extent too, so IMHO no real 
need to track in another third party propertiary application.


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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Justin W. Flory]

On 11/10/2015 08:58 PM, Patrick Uiterwijk wrote:

Hi all,


On 11/10/2015 08:33 PM, Lord Drachenblut wrote:

There is one reason for using ow.ly  URL shortener and
that is it allows the person posting via hootsuite to track engagement
with a post.  I would rather see a URL shortener that is fedora branded
being used if possible.


This was the major point I was thinking of mentioning. Personally, I
feel like link shorteners are only necessary if they're being utilized
to collect statistics and metrics. Judging by the context of this
thread, do we know who has the keys to the Hootsuite? I feel like social
media engagement statistics are something that could be an invaluable
resource to gauging which of our social media posts are effective and
which ones aren't as engaged.


So, I am not aware of who holds the keys to Hootsuite, but for stats tracking
this would not be required.
If we would just use t.co, Wordpress statistics that we have should see the
items coming in just fine through the http referrer header.


With this in mind, personally, I feel like link shorteners are not 
necessary then. If we can get the stats, I personally think it's not a 
bad idea to avoid them.


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FYI: Scheduled posts (should be) working now

[Patrick Uiterwijk]

Hi all,

I also mentioned this on IRC, but thought that for completion's sake, and to 
not surprise
anyone by stuff suddenly actually working, I would also mention it here: as of 
earlier "today",
(for some definition of today, probably U.S.), scheduled posts on the magazine 
should actually
work again, and will verify that it does.
Just a headsup so that people aren't surprised when scheduled posts actually go 
up without having
to manually hit Publish (like what happened when I fixed it. I think Paul 
wasn't fond of the surprise,
sorry for fixing it :-) ).

Also, quick reminder: if you see any bugs with Magazine, please file them as 
tickets at [1] so that
me or croberts (in case of server stuff) or someone else (all other stuff) can 
take a look.


[1]: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-magazine/

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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Patrick Uiterwijk]

Hi all,

> On 11/10/2015 08:33 PM, Lord Drachenblut wrote:
> > There is one reason for using ow.ly  URL shortener and
> > that is it allows the person posting via hootsuite to track engagement
> > with a post.  I would rather see a URL shortener that is fedora branded
> > being used if possible.
> 
> This was the major point I was thinking of mentioning. Personally, I
> feel like link shorteners are only necessary if they're being utilized
> to collect statistics and metrics. Judging by the context of this
> thread, do we know who has the keys to the Hootsuite? I feel like social
> media engagement statistics are something that could be an invaluable
> resource to gauging which of our social media posts are effective and
> which ones aren't as engaged.

So, I am not aware of who holds the keys to Hootsuite, but for stats tracking
this would not be required.
If we would just use t.co, Wordpress statistics that we have should see the
items coming in just fine through the http referrer header.

> 
> If this *is* already happening, then the above paragraph can be
> disregarded. In the case that statistics and metrics are being tracked,
> I personally vote to abstain from using link shorteners except where
> information about engagements and interactions are actually being utilized.
> 
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> Justin W. Flory
> jflo...@gmail.com
> 

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Re: Spam Queue on Fedora Magazine

[Justin W. Flory]

On 11/10/2015 08:27 PM, Ryan Lerch wrote:

Hi all,

just a heads up that we frequently have legitimate comments in the Spam
queue on the Magazine. So if you have the ability to moderate this
queue, please never click the "Empty Spam" button.

I have noticed that legitimate comments that appear in the Spam folder
seem to always be marked in the spam folder as "Cleared by Akismet" --
not sure why, if they are cleared by akismet, they are still in the spam
folder. But all i have been doing to clear the queue, is:

1. Open the spam folder, and search for "Cleared" on the page with the
find in page function of my web browser.
2. Review the comments, and mark any legitimate comments as not spam.
3. select all the remaining comments in the page, and delete them
4. repeat for all the other pages of spam comments

Note too that marking a comment as not spam only puts it back in the
normal comments pending queue, so you will need to go there to finally
approve the comment to get it viewable on the site.

cheers,
ryanlerch


Ahh - this is actually news to me, I wasn't poking around in the spam 
moderation queue to look to unmark comments as spam. I've only been 
watching for new, pending comments. I'll make sure to review the spam 
queue as well when I'm idling in the WP portal.


Thanks for the FYI, I had no idea this was there. Noted!

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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Justin W. Flory]

On 11/10/2015 08:33 PM, Lord Drachenblut wrote:

There is one reason for using ow.ly  URL shortener and
that is it allows the person posting via hootsuite to track engagement
with a post.  I would rather see a URL shortener that is fedora branded
being used if possible.


This was the major point I was thinking of mentioning. Personally, I 
feel like link shorteners are only necessary if they're being utilized 
to collect statistics and metrics. Judging by the context of this 
thread, do we know who has the keys to the Hootsuite? I feel like social 
media engagement statistics are something that could be an invaluable 
resource to gauging which of our social media posts are effective and 
which ones aren't as engaged.


If this *is* already happening, then the above paragraph can be 
disregarded. In the case that statistics and metrics are being tracked, 
I personally vote to abstain from using link shorteners except where 
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Re: "Bump" an older Magazine article?

[Justin W. Flory]

On 11/10/2015 06:35 PM, Ryan Lerch wrote:

All you need to do is change the publish date to something more recent,
but not in the future (if you do the future, it will move to scheduled)

cheers,
ryanlerch


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Re: network world review

[Justin W. Flory]

Seems like it was a good night to go through the inbox, lots of good 
vibes circulating. :) Thanks for sharing, Matthew! Definitely high-fives 
all around!


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On 11/10/2015 05:59 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

Also covers openSUSE and Ubuntu's latest releases. But I'm gonna cut to
the good stuff:

   I'm going to say this as simply as I can: I experienced not one single
   issue with Fedora 23. I used it as my primary system for a few days in
   a row and never, not once, hit any sort of glitch. It was fast and
   stable and I just don't have anything bad to say about it.

   [...]

   This is, without a doubt, my favorite release of Fedora in many years.
   Possibly my favorite release they've ever done. Fast, stable, and great
   looking.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/3003929/opensource-subnet/reviewing-ubuntu-15-10-fedora-23-opensuse-leap-42-1.html






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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Lord Drachenblut]

There is one reason for using ow.ly URL shortener and that is it allows the
person posting via hootsuite to track engagement with a post.  I would
rather see a URL shortener that is fedora branded being used if possible.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 8:02 PM Ryan Lerch  wrote:

> On 11/11/2015 10:53 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote:
>
> Yes,  I'm aware that it is passed through t.co. If it counts the links as
> the same amount of characters,  we might still want to keep the shortened
> URLs for aesthetics, as long links don't look very good on mobile.
>
> IMHO, a full link is more aesthetically appealing than a bunch of random
> characters, and more usable too -- you know what you are clicking on before
> you click it. Twitter, even though it passes thrrough their shortener, will
> display a portion (if not all) of the link in the timeline, rather than the
> shortened link.
>
> Unless you have a specific objection to using a shortener,  I'm assuming.
>
> my objections to using link shorteners are pretty much summed up by this
> article:
>
> http://oleb.net/blog/2012/08/please-dont-use-url-shorteners-on-twitter/
>
> regards,
> ryanlerch
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 7:48 PM Ryan Lerch  wrote:
>
>> On 11/11/2015 10:34 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>>
>> On 11/11/2015 10:03 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ryan,
>>
>> I think the use of a link shortener is adequate for Twitter. This is
>> because they have a character limit, and using a shortener greatly helps
>> increase the amount of text you can have in a tweet. Twitter counts your
>> link's characters even though it passes it through its own link gateway.
>>
>> This is incorrect -- try crafting a new tweet on twitter.com with 115
>> characters, then add a link with more that 25 characters -- it will let you
>> post it. All links on twitter go through the t.co link shortener.
>>
>> cheers,
>> ryanlerch
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chaoyi
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 at 19:01 Ryan Lerch  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just wondering what people think about not using any link shorteners on
>>> the official Fedora twitter feed. Twitter actually passes all links in
>>> tweets through their own t.co/ link shortener, so using another one is
>>> just (IMHO) unnecessarily obfuscating the link from our followers on
>>> twitter. (twitter presents all t.co links as the full text, but the link
>>> itself is t.co)
>>>
>>> Looking back through the feed, the main link shortener being used is
>>> ow.ly, which i assume is being done by whoever is using Hootsuite.
>>>
>>> cheers,
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, have a look at this tweet:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/fedora/status/664172103525146624
>>
>> If you inspect the link in that tweet, (or copy the link address to see
>> the href of it), you will see that the link is actaully t.co. So these
>> links are passing through t.co, then redundantly redirecting on to ow.ly,
>> then on to the actual site we want.
>>
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Spam Queue on Fedora Magazine

[Ryan Lerch]

Hi all,

just a heads up that we frequently have legitimate comments in the Spam 
queue on the Magazine. So if you have the ability to moderate this 
queue, please never click the "Empty Spam" button.


I have noticed that legitimate comments that appear in the Spam folder 
seem to always be marked in the spam folder as "Cleared by Akismet" -- 
not sure why, if they are cleared by akismet, they are still in the spam 
folder. But all i have been doing to clear the queue, is:


1. Open the spam folder, and search for "Cleared" on the page with the 
find in page function of my web browser.

2. Review the comments, and mark any legitimate comments as not spam.
3. select all the remaining comments in the page, and delete them
4. repeat for all the other pages of spam comments

Note too that marking a comment as not spam only puts it back in the 
normal comments pending queue, so you will need to go there to finally 
approve the comment to get it viewable on the site.


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Re: More record breaking

[Justin W. Flory]

All awesome news, thanks for sharing these stats, Paul! Looking forward 
to breaking more records this upcoming release cycle. ;)


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On 11/10/2015 05:36 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:

I thought it was worth pointing out that once again we broke more
publishing records thanks to outstanding contributions and
collaboration on Fedora Magazine.

Our week Mon Nov 02 - Sun Nov 08 is now our best week ever -- 121,311
views, versus 106,470 hits the week of Fedora 22 release.  Nicely
done, everyone!

Also of note, while October 2015 was one of our top five months ever,
November 2015 is almost ready to overtake it -- and we still have
almost three weeks left to publish!  Keep up the good work!





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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Ryan Lerch]

On 11/11/2015 10:53 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote:


Yes,  I'm aware that it is passed through t.co . If it 
counts the links as the same amount of characters,  we might still 
want to keep the shortened URLs for aesthetics, as long links don't 
look very good on mobile.


IMHO, a full link is more aesthetically appealing than a bunch of random 
characters, and more usable too -- you know what you are clicking on 
before you click it. Twitter, even though it passes thrrough their 
shortener, will display a portion (if not all) of the link in the 
timeline, rather than the shortened link.


Unless you have a specific objection to using a shortener,  I'm assuming.

my objections to using link shorteners are pretty much summed up by this 
article:


http://oleb.net/blog/2012/08/please-dont-use-url-shorteners-on-twitter/

regards,
ryanlerch


On Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 7:48 PM Ryan Lerch > wrote:


On 11/11/2015 10:34 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:

On 11/11/2015 10:03 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote:

Hi Ryan,

I think the use of a link shortener is adequate for Twitter.
This is because they have a character limit, and using a
shortener greatly helps increase the amount of text you can have
in a tweet. Twitter counts your link's characters even though it
passes it through its own link gateway.

This is incorrect -- try crafting a new tweet on twitter.com
 with 115 characters, then add a link with
more that 25 characters -- it will let you post it. All links on
twitter go through the t.co  link shortener.

cheers,
ryanlerch


Cheers,
Chaoyi

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 at 19:01 Ryan Lerch mailto:rle...@redhat.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering what people think about not using any link
shorteners on
the official Fedora twitter feed. Twitter actually passes
all links in
tweets through their own t.co/  link
shortener, so using another one is
just (IMHO) unnecessarily obfuscating the link from our
followers on
twitter. (twitter presents all t.co  links as
the full text, but the link
itself is t.co )

Looking back through the feed, the main link shortener being
used is
ow.ly , which i assume is being done by
whoever is using Hootsuite.

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Also, have a look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/fedora/status/664172103525146624

If you inspect the link in that tweet, (or copy the link address
to see the href of it), you will see that the link is actaully
t.co . So these links are passing through t.co
, then redundantly redirecting on to ow.ly
, then on to the actual site we want.

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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Chaoyi Zha]

Yes,  I'm aware that it is passed through t.co. If it counts the links as
the same amount of characters,  we might still want to keep the shortened
URLs for aesthetics, as long links don't look very good on mobile.

Unless you have a specific objection to using a shortener,  I'm assuming.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 7:48 PM Ryan Lerch  wrote:

> On 11/11/2015 10:34 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>
> On 11/11/2015 10:03 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote:
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
> I think the use of a link shortener is adequate for Twitter. This is
> because they have a character limit, and using a shortener greatly helps
> increase the amount of text you can have in a tweet. Twitter counts your
> link's characters even though it passes it through its own link gateway.
>
> This is incorrect -- try crafting a new tweet on twitter.com with 115
> characters, then add a link with more that 25 characters -- it will let you
> post it. All links on twitter go through the t.co link shortener.
>
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
>
>
> Cheers,
> Chaoyi
>
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 at 19:01 Ryan Lerch  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just wondering what people think about not using any link shorteners on
>> the official Fedora twitter feed. Twitter actually passes all links in
>> tweets through their own t.co/ link shortener, so using another one is
>> just (IMHO) unnecessarily obfuscating the link from our followers on
>> twitter. (twitter presents all t.co links as the full text, but the link
>> itself is t.co)
>>
>> Looking back through the feed, the main link shortener being used is
>> ow.ly, which i assume is being done by whoever is using Hootsuite.
>>
>> cheers,
>> ryanlerch
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> Also, have a look at this tweet:
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> https://twitter.com/fedora/status/664172103525146624
>
> If you inspect the link in that tweet, (or copy the link address to see
> the href of it), you will see that the link is actaully t.co. So these
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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Ryan Lerch]

On 11/11/2015 10:34 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:

On 11/11/2015 10:03 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote:

Hi Ryan,

I think the use of a link shortener is adequate for Twitter. This is 
because they have a character limit, and using a shortener greatly 
helps increase the amount of text you can have in a tweet. Twitter 
counts your link's characters even though it passes it through its 
own link gateway.
This is incorrect -- try crafting a new tweet on twitter.com with 115 
characters, then add a link with more that 25 characters -- it will 
let you post it. All links on twitter go through the t.co link shortener.


cheers,
ryanlerch


Cheers,
Chaoyi

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 at 19:01 Ryan Lerch  wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering what people think about not using any link
shorteners on
the official Fedora twitter feed. Twitter actually passes all
links in
tweets through their own t.co/  link shortener, so
using another one is
just (IMHO) unnecessarily obfuscating the link from our followers on
twitter. (twitter presents all t.co  links as the
full text, but the link
itself is t.co )

Looking back through the feed, the main link shortener being used is
ow.ly , which i assume is being done by whoever is
using Hootsuite.

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Also, have a look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/fedora/status/664172103525146624

If you inspect the link in that tweet, (or copy the link address to see 
the href of it), you will see that the link is actaully t.co. So these 
links are passing through t.co, then redundantly redirecting on to 
ow.ly, then on to the actual site we want.


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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Ryan Lerch]

On 11/11/2015 10:03 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote:

Hi Ryan,

I think the use of a link shortener is adequate for Twitter. This is 
because they have a character limit, and using a shortener greatly 
helps increase the amount of text you can have in a tweet. Twitter 
counts your link's characters even though it passes it through its own 
link gateway.
This is incorrect -- try crafting a new tweet on twitter.com with 115 
characters, then add a link with more that 25 characters -- it will let 
you post it. All links on twitter go through the t.co link shortener.


cheers,
ryanlerch


Cheers,
Chaoyi

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 at 19:01 Ryan Lerch > wrote:


Hi all,

Just wondering what people think about not using any link
shorteners on
the official Fedora twitter feed. Twitter actually passes all links in
tweets through their own t.co/  link shortener, so
using another one is
just (IMHO) unnecessarily obfuscating the link from our followers on
twitter. (twitter presents all t.co  links as the
full text, but the link
itself is t.co )

Looking back through the feed, the main link shortener being used is
ow.ly , which i assume is being done by whoever is
using Hootsuite.

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Re: Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Chaoyi Zha]

Hi Ryan,

I think the use of a link shortener is adequate for Twitter. This is
because they have a character limit, and using a shortener greatly helps
increase the amount of text you can have in a tweet. Twitter counts your
link's characters even though it passes it through its own link gateway.

Cheers,
Chaoyi

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 at 19:01 Ryan Lerch  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering what people think about not using any link shorteners on
> the official Fedora twitter feed. Twitter actually passes all links in
> tweets through their own t.co/ link shortener, so using another one is
> just (IMHO) unnecessarily obfuscating the link from our followers on
> twitter. (twitter presents all t.co links as the full text, but the link
> itself is t.co)
>
> Looking back through the feed, the main link shortener being used is
> ow.ly, which i assume is being done by whoever is using Hootsuite.
>
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
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Use of Link shorteners on Twitter

[Ryan Lerch]

Hi all,

Just wondering what people think about not using any link shorteners on 
the official Fedora twitter feed. Twitter actually passes all links in 
tweets through their own t.co/ link shortener, so using another one is 
just (IMHO) unnecessarily obfuscating the link from our followers on 
twitter. (twitter presents all t.co links as the full text, but the link 
itself is t.co)


Looking back through the feed, the main link shortener being used is 
ow.ly, which i assume is being done by whoever is using Hootsuite.


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Re: "Bump" an older Magazine article?

[Ryan Lerch]

On 11/11/2015 02:09 AM, Justin W. Flory wrote:

Oh, whoops, I actually lost track of getting this article updated. It
still needs to be done, so if you wanted to look at it and update the
content as necessary, I believe that's still on the agenda!

 https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=1771&action=edit

I know there's some magic to "re-publishing" an article, but I'm not
sure on how to do that yet. We could probably add a fancy featured image
for this one too to give it some additional attention.



All you need to do is change the publish date to something more recent, 
but not in the future (if you do the future, it will move to scheduled)


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On 11/10/2015 07:36 AM, Keerthana Krishnan wrote:

Hey,

I remember referring some articles (Maybe the same?) for that purpose
when I tried installing Fedora myself last month. I think it's
worthwhile to "bump" it up. Is anyone else working on this ? Else, I'd
like to try my hand.

(Sorry for the late reply I was kinda down with fever... 😷 )

On 4 November 2015 at 17:38, Ryan Lerch mailto:rle...@redhat.com>> wrote:

 On 11/04/2015 04:31 PM, Justin W. Flory wrote:

 Hi all,

 One last thing I noticed before I headed off the bed - seems like
 one of ryanlerch's articles from mid-2014 about copying over the
 Fedora ISOs to a USB drive for install has had a surge in
 popularity today. Might it be a good idea to do a touchup and bump
 it back to the top of the Magazine for this week? Seems like it's
 a valuable article that could help bring in some more attention.


 
http://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-copy-the-fedora-install-dvd-to-a-usb-drive/


 Thanks again.




 Yeah, i think this one could definitely do with a refresh, and a
 repost. There is also one by paul that covers the same topic, but in
 screencast form.

 The stats bump is probably because the What's new in Workstation
 post has a link to the older USB article at the bottom. This is also
 interesting, because it is right at the bottom, so at least a few
 people are reading the whole post :)

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network world review

[Matthew Miller]

Also covers openSUSE and Ubuntu's latest releases. But I'm gonna cut to
the good stuff:

  I'm going to say this as simply as I can: I experienced not one single
  issue with Fedora 23. I used it as my primary system for a few days in
  a row and never, not once, hit any sort of glitch. It was fast and
  stable and I just don't have anything bad to say about it.

  [...]

  This is, without a doubt, my favorite release of Fedora in many years.
  Possibly my favorite release they've ever done. Fast, stable, and great
  looking.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/3003929/opensource-subnet/reviewing-ubuntu-15-10-fedora-23-opensuse-leap-42-1.html


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More record breaking

[Paul W. Frields]

I thought it was worth pointing out that once again we broke more
publishing records thanks to outstanding contributions and
collaboration on Fedora Magazine.

Our week Mon Nov 02 - Sun Nov 08 is now our best week ever -- 121,311
views, versus 106,470 hits the week of Fedora 22 release.  Nicely
done, everyone!

Also of note, while October 2015 was one of our top five months ever,
November 2015 is almost ready to overtake it -- and we still have
almost three weeks left to publish!  Keep up the good work! 

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Re: Fedora Magazine schedule this week:

[Paul W. Frields]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:34:49AM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> On 11/10/2015 12:16 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 10:00:04PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>This is the schedule that we decided on during the meeting last week. (some
> >>of these are already done, because this email is a little late)
> >>
> >>The only one i'm not sure of is the SystemD one. pfrields, i think you were
> >>down as the author for this one, but if we have to push it to next week, i
> >>think we can because we have a lot of other content this week.
> >I was late with my draft, but it's up now, as of Sunday night -- in
> >Pending Review status.  I'll make a featured image for it today so if
> >we want to push it later this week, we can.
> >
> >Having this schedule published on the list is GREAT!  Thank you.
> >
> The draft looks fantastic! Just did a quick editorial read over it, and
> nothing really to change.
> 
> Just two suggestions to enhance / extend the article:
> 
> 1. It might be good to show an example of journalctl output when first
> introducing the command in the Basic journal use section -- just to give the
> user an example without them opening up a terminal.
> 
> 2. might also be good to mention the Logs application in Fedora Workstation,
> where users can view the systemd journal messages using a GUI.  I did a post
> about this application back for f21 alpha [1]
> 
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
> 
> [1] -
> https://fedoramagazine.org/simply-view-system-logs-in-fedora-21-workstation/

Fixed all these things.  Feel free to review again -- I scheduled it
for 03:00 US-EST on Thursday per the schedule you gave earlier.

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Re: "Bump" an older Magazine article?

[Keerthana Krishnan]

Sure! I'll look into it


On 10 November 2015 at 21:39, Justin W. Flory  wrote:

> Oh, whoops, I actually lost track of getting this article updated. It
> still needs to be done, so if you wanted to look at it and update the
> content as necessary, I believe that's still on the agenda!
>
> https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=1771&action=edit
>
> I know there's some magic to "re-publishing" an article, but I'm not
> sure on how to do that yet. We could probably add a fancy featured image
> for this one too to give it some additional attention.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Justin W. Flory
> jflo...@gmail.com
>
> On 11/10/2015 07:36 AM, Keerthana Krishnan wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I remember referring some articles (Maybe the same?) for that purpose
> > when I tried installing Fedora myself last month. I think it's
> > worthwhile to "bump" it up. Is anyone else working on this ? Else, I'd
> > like to try my hand.
> >
> > (Sorry for the late reply I was kinda down with fever... 😷 )
> >
> > On 4 November 2015 at 17:38, Ryan Lerch  > > wrote:
> >
> > On 11/04/2015 04:31 PM, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> One last thing I noticed before I headed off the bed - seems like
> >> one of ryanlerch's articles from mid-2014 about copying over the
> >> Fedora ISOs to a USB drive for install has had a surge in
> >> popularity today. Might it be a good idea to do a touchup and bump
> >> it back to the top of the Magazine for this week? Seems like it's
> >> a valuable article that could help bring in some more attention.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-copy-the-fedora-install-dvd-to-a-usb-drive/
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks again.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Yeah, i think this one could definitely do with a refresh, and a
> > repost. There is also one by paul that covers the same topic, but in
> > screencast form.
> >
> > The stats bump is probably because the What's new in Workstation
> > post has a link to the older USB article at the bottom. This is also
> > interesting, because it is right at the bottom, so at least a few
> > people are reading the whole post :)
> >
> > cheers,
> > ryanlerch
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Re: "Bump" an older Magazine article?

[Justin W. Flory]

Oh, whoops, I actually lost track of getting this article updated. It
still needs to be done, so if you wanted to look at it and update the
content as necessary, I believe that's still on the agenda!

https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=1771&action=edit

I know there's some magic to "re-publishing" an article, but I'm not
sure on how to do that yet. We could probably add a fancy featured image
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On 11/10/2015 07:36 AM, Keerthana Krishnan wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I remember referring some articles (Maybe the same?) for that purpose
> when I tried installing Fedora myself last month. I think it's
> worthwhile to "bump" it up. Is anyone else working on this ? Else, I'd
> like to try my hand.
> 
> (Sorry for the late reply I was kinda down with fever... 😷 )
> 
> On 4 November 2015 at 17:38, Ryan Lerch  > wrote:
> 
> On 11/04/2015 04:31 PM, Justin W. Flory wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> One last thing I noticed before I headed off the bed - seems like
>> one of ryanlerch's articles from mid-2014 about copying over the
>> Fedora ISOs to a USB drive for install has had a surge in
>> popularity today. Might it be a good idea to do a touchup and bump
>> it back to the top of the Magazine for this week? Seems like it's
>> a valuable article that could help bring in some more attention.
>>
>>
>> 
>> http://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-copy-the-fedora-install-dvd-to-a-usb-drive/
>>
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>>
> Yeah, i think this one could definitely do with a refresh, and a
> repost. There is also one by paul that covers the same topic, but in
> screencast form.
> 
> The stats bump is probably because the What's new in Workstation
> post has a link to the older USB article at the bottom. This is also
> interesting, because it is right at the bottom, so at least a few
> people are reading the whole post :)
> 
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
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Re: assignments for the Magazine's systemd series

[Ashutosh Bhakare]

Hello All

Sorry for late reply; i have missed this out due to travel load last
month. 

@Paul 
> 6 - Masking units   Ashutosh Bhakare 
  2015-Nov-18
>   2015-Nov-25> 

https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=10411 

Unfortunately i have drafted the new post.

Edited as per the guidance as well :)

Please let me know if any relevant editing require. 

Regards
Ashutosh 

>  Article (# - topic)   Author  Draft due 
>To be published
> >   --  -
> --  ---
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>   2015-Oct-21
> > 2 - Unit files  Bryan S
> 2015-Oct-21  2015-Oct-28
> > 3 - Unit dependencies and ordering  Bryan S 2015-Oct-28
>   2015-Nov-04
> > 4 - Using the journal   Paul F 
> 2015-Nov-04  2015-Nov-11
> > 5 - Converting SysVinit scripts ?  
> 2015-Nov-11  2015-Nov-18
> > 6 - Masking units   ?   2015-Nov-18
>   2015-Nov-25
> > 7 - Creating unit files Justin F   
> 2015-Nov-25  2015-Dec-02
> > 8 - Remote logging  Paul F  2015-Dec-02
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Re: "Bump" an older Magazine article?

[Keerthana Krishnan]

Hey,

I remember referring some articles (Maybe the same?) for that purpose when
I tried installing Fedora myself last month. I think it's worthwhile to
"bump" it up. Is anyone else working on this ? Else, I'd like to try my
hand.

(Sorry for the late reply I was kinda down with fever... 😷 )

On 4 November 2015 at 17:38, Ryan Lerch  wrote:

> On 11/04/2015 04:31 PM, Justin W. Flory wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> One last thing I noticed before I headed off the bed - seems like one of
> ryanlerch's articles from mid-2014 about copying over the Fedora ISOs to a
> USB drive for install has had a surge in popularity today. Might it be a
> good idea to do a touchup and bump it back to the top of the Magazine for
> this week? Seems like it's a valuable article that could help bring in some
> more attention.
>
>
>
> http://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-copy-the-fedora-install-dvd-to-a-usb-drive/
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> Yeah, i think this one could definitely do with a refresh, and a repost.
> There is also one by paul that covers the same topic, but in screencast
> form.
>
> The stats bump is probably because the What's new in Workstation post has
> a link to the older USB article at the bottom. This is also interesting,
> because it is right at the bottom, so at least a few people are reading the
> whole post :)
>
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
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