Re: [Marketing] Review Requested: Updated Python Brochure

[Robyn Bergeron]

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Brian Proffitt  wrote:
> As per ticket #219[1], I have updated the Fedora Python brochure to include
> more current information. The updates are almost all around content, I left
> the design elements pretty much alone.
>
> I would like the group to examine the content and let me know if anything is
> wrong or missing. If I could get feedback to me by 1200 EDT (1600 UTC)
> Wednesday, March 30 (to allow for the upcoming US and EU holidays), that
> would be great.

I added this to the ticket, but figured I'd mention it as well --

ansible.cc is not correct -- should be replaced with ansible.com :)

-Robyn

>
> The pdfs are attached; my apologies for not attaching these files to the
> ticket itself; there was a file size limit. Please let me know if posting
> them somewhere else will be helpful.
>
> Peace,
> Brian
>
> [1] https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/219
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Re: [Marketing] article "Linux best bets: There's a desktop distro just right for you"

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hi!

Normal human being here, not a developer.

Unity is weird to anyone who isn't used to. Period.
Fedora it's the best distro for designers from my point of view. Why nobody
ever mention it?
That thing about  "Fedora is for devs only"  is getting on my nerves
really. I find it way simpler than Ubuntu that breaks half a system every
time it upgrades. Manjaro it's also very simple and has more intuitive
environments than Ubuntu.

I don't know, I'd like to read something new instead of always the same
thing repeated over and over.


Cheers,
Sylvia


On Thursday, 24 March 2016, charles profitt  wrote:

> On Thu, 2016-03-24 at 18:04 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > For today's round of "analyzing our press coverage", I bring you:
> >
> > http://www.zdnet.com/article/five-steps-to-picking-the-right-linux-de
> > sktop-for-you/
> >
> >
> > Plus: Includes Fedora as one of 'em.
> >
> > Plus: Has Fedora for "I'm a developer, not a user!" — that's a
> > messaging "hit", since developers are the primary target for Fedora
> > Workstation.
> >
> > --
> > Matthew Miller
> > >
> > Fedora Project Leader
>
> I would have to agree with you on the overall tone of the article. Hit
> on the 'developer' bit, but overstated on needing to be a Linux expert.
> There are times when I think articles need to find differences that do
> not exist in order to make the article longer.
>
> Charles
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Re: [Marketing] Gimp article update

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Awesome! Thanks!
I'll work on it tomorrow then.  😃


Cheers,
Sylvia



On Thursday, 24 March 2016, Ryan Lerch  wrote:

> Sounds awesome!
>
> Feel free to edit and update any sections! I just added some content in
> those to make it clearer what i was envisioning would go in those.
>
> Yeah, an extra couple sections at the end too (after the export step)
> covering getting extenstions and brushes in fedora for gimp would be
> awesome too.
>
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Sylvia Sánchez  > wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody!
>>
>> I added some more stuff to the article.  I tried to upload screenshots
>> but I couldn't, it gave me a  HTTP error.  Anyone know what does it
>> means?
>> In the installation chapter, I'd like to do it a bit more general
>> instead of pointing specifically to the Gnome version and mention the
>> Design Spin.  Also I thought of adding the advise  "Do a  dnf search
>> gimp"  so a new user can install everything related to Gimp.
>> Otherwise, it will be needed to explain under every item how to
>> install them because most of Gimp parts are modules coming separated
>> from the main programme.  I don't want to mess anyone's work but I
>> think it would be really useful to someone who never worked with Gimp
>> or even never worked with a design tool at all.
>> If everything is ok with my suggestions I'll add them and then write a
>> note with useful links like forums, brushes, etc.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sylvia
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Re: [Marketing] Review Requested: Updated Python Brochure

[charles profitt]

> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Brian Proffitt 
> wrote:



I think everyone hit on the main points I saw. I do like the idea of
updating the graphics style a bit as Máirín suggested.

Charles 

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Re: [Marketing] article "Linux best bets: There's a desktop distro just right for you"

[charles profitt]

On Thu, 2016-03-24 at 18:04 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> For today's round of "analyzing our press coverage", I bring you:
> 
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/five-steps-to-picking-the-right-linux-de
> sktop-for-you/
> 
> 
> Plus: Includes Fedora as one of 'em.
> 
> Plus: Has Fedora for "I'm a developer, not a user!" — that's a
> messaging "hit", since developers are the primary target for Fedora
> Workstation.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> Fedora Project Leader

I would have to agree with you on the overall tone of the article. Hit
on the 'developer' bit, but overstated on needing to be a Linux expert.
There are times when I think articles need to find differences that do
not exist in order to make the article longer.

Charles

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Re: [Marketing] Review Requested: Updated Python Brochure

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi Brian,

On 03/24/2016 01:12 PM, Brian Proffitt wrote:
As per ticket #219[1], I have updated the Fedora Python brochure to 
include more current information. The updates are almost all around 
content, I left the design elements pretty much alone.
I'd like to open a design team ticket so we can work on updating the 
design elements. Do you have the source for your work that we can use?


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[Marketing] article "Linux best bets: There's a desktop distro just right for you"

[Matthew Miller]

For today's round of "analyzing our press coverage", I bring you:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/five-steps-to-picking-the-right-linux-desktop-for-you/


Plus: Includes Fedora as one of 'em.

Plus: Has Fedora for "I'm a developer, not a user!" — that's a
messaging "hit", since developers are the primary target for Fedora
Workstation.

Plus: Nice mention of Spins, without, I think, confusing the overall
message.

Minus: Limits "developers" this to "Linux developers", which is _way_
too narrow.

Minus: Says "If you're not already a Linux expert, or determined to
become one, you shouldn't use Fedora." Ouch — that's also way too
narrow. As the Workstation team says "Developers are people, too."

Confusing: Very next line is "Oh it's not hard to use."  so,
why shouldn't you use Fedora unless you are determined to be an
expert? This makes no sense to me.

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[Marketing] [Magazine] Editorial board meeting recap 2016-Mar-24

[Paul W. Frields]

*** ERRATA from decause:
#help F24 Alpha Release reviewers/contributors needed:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F24_Alpha_release_announcement


Minutes:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-24/magazine.2016-03-24-21.00.html
Minutes (text): 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-24/magazine.2016-03-24-21.00.txt
Log:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-24/magazine.2016-03-24-21.00.log.html

* * *
=
#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
=


Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:03 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-24/magazine.2016-03-24-21.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* Roll call  (stickster, 21:00:08)

* Last week review  (stickster, 21:02:16)

* Plan for Friday 2016-Mar-25  (stickster, 21:12:34)
  * featured image needed  (stickster, 21:12:40)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-images/issue/9   (stickster,
21:12:43)
  * AGREED: ryanlerch will do featured image  (stickster, 21:12:58)
  * ACTION: ryanlerch do featured image for Black Box interview article
(stickster, 21:13:10)
  * ACTION: jflory7 do touch ups on interview tonight for publication in
the morning, Schedule for 0800 UTC please  (stickster, 21:13:26)
  * LINK:

https://fedoramagazine.org/creating-a-featured-image-for-a-fedora-magazine-article/
(stickster, 21:14:21)

* Next week stuff  (stickster, 21:16:35)
  * The OpenVPN article was not ready on time and jflory7 is to contact
fale to see if he wanted to pick up this article (he expressed
interest in the past)  (jflory7, 21:17:47)
  * ACTION: jflory7 Contact fale about the OpenVPN article  (jflory7,
21:18:06)
  * One more interview is started locally on jflory7's laptop of an
interview with jdieter about his school powered by Fedora in Lebanon
- should be ready by end of week, next week  (jflory7, 21:18:37)
  * ACTION: jflory7 Finish drafting the BrickHack event report +
proposed pitch for the Fedora Magazibe ASAP  (jflory7, 21:21:14)
  * ACTION: decause help jflory with edits to the brickhack event report
(decause, 21:22:20)
  * Friday 2016-04-01 -- publish interview with jdieter  (stickster,
21:22:21)

* Pending review  (stickster, 21:22:36)
  * LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending
(stickster, 21:22:39)
  * Black Box is already getting ready for tomorrow  (stickster,
21:22:48)
  * -- Rebase-helper tool for rebases and for upstream monitoring
services --  (stickster, 21:23:26)
  * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12367&preview=1&_ppp=f7757397db
(stickster, 21:23:47)
  * ACTION: stickster to edit rebase-helper article this weekend
(stickster, 21:25:12)
  * AGREED: publish rebase-helper article on Monday 2016-03-28
(stickster, 21:25:55)
  * We need to publish SOMETHING on Tuesday for Alpha release :-)
(stickster, 21:29:52)

* Drafts in queue  (stickster, 21:31:59)
  * LINK:

https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
(stickster, 21:32:02)
  * -- GIMP article --  (stickster, 21:32:17)
  * ACTION: stickster Create first Files article for Magazine FOR SURE
this weekend, for publication Wed 2016-Mar-30  (stickster, 21:36:34)
  * ACTION: ryanlerch **ERRATA** -- taking the copy-edit for
rebase-helper by this weekend, for publication on Monday 2016-Mar-28
(stickster, 21:39:29)
  * ACTION: ryanlerch Do featured article for rebase-helper (link
already noted)  (stickster, 21:39:43)
  * ACTION: stickster Create featured image for Files article
(stickster, 21:39:52)
  * ACTION: decause Finalize F24 Alpha announcement in Magazine, but
don't Schedule it so we don't jump over the release in case of a
problem  (stickster, 21:42:42)
  * stickster COPR article is still on hold but will hopefully be able
to revisit this week  (stickster, 21:43:06)
  * FOSS Asia article being reworked  (stickster, 21:44:32)

* All other business -- open floor  (stickster, 21:45:27)

Meeting ended at 21:48:40 UTC.




Action Items

* ryanlerch do featured image for Black Box interview article
* jflory7 do touch ups on interview tonight for publication in the
  morning, Schedule for 0800 UTC please
* jflory7 Contact fale about the OpenVPN article
* jflory7 Finish drafting the BrickHack event report + proposed pitch
  for the Fedora Magazibe ASAP
* decause help jflory with edits to the brickhack event report
* stickster to edit rebase-helper article this weekend
* stickster Create first Files article for Magazine FOR SURE this
  weekend, for publication Wed 2016-Mar-30
* ryanlerch **ERRATA** -- taking the copy-edit for rebase-helper by this
  weekend, for publication on Monday 2016-Mar-28
* ryanlerch Do featured article for rebase-helper (link already noted)
* stickster Create fe

Re: [Marketing] Gimp article update

[Ryan Lerch]

Sounds awesome!

Feel free to edit and update any sections! I just added some content in
those to make it clearer what i was envisioning would go in those.

Yeah, an extra couple sections at the end too (after the export step)
covering getting extenstions and brushes in fedora for gimp would be
awesome too.

cheers,
ryanlerch

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Sylvia Sánchez 
wrote:

> Hi everybody!
>
> I added some more stuff to the article.  I tried to upload screenshots
> but I couldn't, it gave me a  HTTP error.  Anyone know what does it
> means?
> In the installation chapter, I'd like to do it a bit more general
> instead of pointing specifically to the Gnome version and mention the
> Design Spin.  Also I thought of adding the advise  "Do a  dnf search
> gimp"  so a new user can install everything related to Gimp.
> Otherwise, it will be needed to explain under every item how to
> install them because most of Gimp parts are modules coming separated
> from the main programme.  I don't want to mess anyone's work but I
> think it would be really useful to someone who never worked with Gimp
> or even never worked with a design tool at all.
> If everything is ok with my suggestions I'll add them and then write a
> note with useful links like forums, brushes, etc.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Sylvia
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Re: [Marketing] Review Requested: Updated Python Brochure

[Pete Travis]

On Mar 24, 2016 2:05 PM, "Remy DeCausemaker"  wrote:

TRIM
> ...
> - putting a "$" in front of our "dnf" commands, and possibly adding
> "sudo" to the front of "dnf install" command?

I've grown fond of prefacing privileged commands with ' ]# ' and
unprivileged commands with ' ]$ '.  Folks usually recognize the end of a
$PS1, and you can't teach about sudo/su/polkit/etc every time.

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Re: [Marketing] Review Requested: Updated Python Brochure

[James Bishop]

Hi Brian,

Sorry that I missed you last night. Anyway, I was wondering if it would be
a good idea to mention DevAssistant. It may not be specific to Python, but
I do find it to be a helpful tool when starting new projects.

Let me know what you think.

Regards,
James

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On Mar 24, 2016 3:01 PM, "Brian Proffitt"  wrote:

> As per ticket #219[1], I have updated the Fedora Python brochure to
> include more current information. The updates are almost all around
> content, I left the design elements pretty much alone.
>
> I would like the group to examine the content and let me know if anything
> is wrong or missing. If I could get feedback to me by 1200 EDT (1600 UTC)
> Wednesday, March 30 (to allow for the upcoming US and EU holidays), that
> would be great.
>
> The pdfs are attached; my apologies for not attaching these files to the
> ticket itself; there was a file size limit. Please let me know if posting
> them somewhere else will be helpful.
>
> Peace,
> Brian
>
> [1] https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/219
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Re: [Marketing] Review Requested: Updated Python Brochure

[Remy DeCausemaker]

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Brian Proffitt  wrote:
> As per ticket #219[1], I have updated the Fedora Python brochure to include
> more current information. The updates are almost all around content, I left
> the design elements pretty much alone.
>
> I would like the group to examine the content and let me know if anything is
> wrong or missing. If I could get feedback to me by 1200 EDT (1600 UTC)
> Wednesday, March 30 (to allow for the upcoming US and EU holidays), that
> would be great.
>
> The pdfs are attached; my apologies for not attaching these files to the
> ticket itself; there was a file size limit. Please let me know if posting
> them somewhere else will be helpful.
>
> Peace,
> Brian
>
> [1] https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/219

Looks Good!

Some Feedback:

- The "free software" in the first paragraph of panel #3 in the inner
graphic should be capitalized
- Where we have bullet points, perhaps we could use some kind of
graphical element, instead of boring old dots? That heart, scaled
down, could do nicely, or little python logos maybe? Just a though.
- in the "outer" file, the "did you know" panel is a little
wall-o-text-y. Can we fit line breaks between the bullets?
- in the 'outer' file, maybe getting rid of the bullet points in the
"Python Questions" and instead mirroring the type of formatting you
used in "Get packages"?
- putting a "$" in front of our "dnf" commands, and possibly adding
"sudo" to the front of "dnf install" command?
- Possibly intentional, but the yellow snake is overlapping the "did
you know?" box in the bottom left corner. Perhaps we can make the blue
snake overlap on the top right, or drop the yellow one below for
consistency?
- I would udpdate the Fedora loves python section with pyrasite
https://github.com/lmacken/pyrasite, and Tahrir
https://github.com/fedora-infra/tahrir

Thanks BKP,
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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

[Marketing Team]

#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
-+-
  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by rbergero):

 FYI that the Ansible address is ansible.com -- not ansible.cc, as shown in
 the python brochure.

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Re: [Marketing] Active Contributors Wiki Page

[Justin W. Flory]

On 03/23/2016 04:49 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:

Hey all,

This page could use some love. If you're active, please add yourself. If
you're not, please move yourself down or consider this a heads up that
we'll be editing it shortly.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Contributors_to_the_marketing_group#Active_Contributors



Thanks for pointing this page out, Joe. I've added myself to the list.

Is this page in an obvious position anywhere on the wiki? I feel like 
part of why it is a little outdated is because it's a little buried – 
it's my first time ever seeing this page until now. Can we give it a 
little more exposure on the main Marketing page perhaps?


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Re: [Marketing] [Magazine] Darktable article

[Justin W. Flory]

On 03/22/2016 10:41 AM, James Bishop wrote:

Hello everyone,

After reviewing the GIMP article, I had the idea that I could write a
similar article for Darktable and was wondering if there was any
interest. I have a fair bit of experience in this area, having been a
professional/serious amateur photographer since 2007, and having used a
wide array of RAW editing software. As for the format, I can see several
possibilities:

1. A quick overview of the software.
2. Switching to Darktable from a certain popular proprietary option.
3. A series of articles looking at different aspects of Darktable
(library management, RAW editing, etc.).

Let me know what you think.



Hi James! Like everyone else in the thread said, I think this series is 
an awesome idea and you've laid a pretty good outline of how the series 
would go as well.


The next step I would take is to begin drafting the article inside of 
the Fedora Magazine. Consider your idea itself as good as approved. :) 
However, you may still find it useful to follow these guidelines for 
writing pitches here.


https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-a-new-pitch/

You won't need to get approval from us to move on, but even for my own 
articles, I still write a "pitch" to organize the ideas in my head and 
have a clear, concise road map for how the article will go (useful for 
the bigger and complex topics).


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