[Marketing] [Magazine] Weekly Meeting Recap 2016-03-31

2016-03-31 Thread Justin W. Flory

Meeting ended Thu Mar 31 22:09:48 2016 UTC.
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Meeting started by jflory7 at 21:06:12 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call  (jflory7, 21:06:21)

* Last week review  (jflory7, 21:11:24)
  * === Fedora 24 Alpha released! ===  (jflory7, 21:12:39)
  * LINK:

https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=12400
(jflory7, 21:12:42)
  * Total Views: 8,157 (as of now)  (jflory7, 21:12:52)
  * === Open source, a black box, and radioactivity ===  (jflory7,
21:13:07)
  * LINK:

https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=12349
(jflory7, 21:13:09)
  * Total Views: 3,606 (as of now)  (jflory7, 21:13:20)
  * === Files: Find recent content easily ===  (jflory7, 21:13:37)
  * LINK:

https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=12379
(jflory7, 21:13:39)
  * Total Views: 1,762 (as of now)  (jflory7, 21:13:49)
  * === Total views this week: 33,230 (last week), 28,149 (this week, so
far) ===  (jflory7, 21:15:18)

* Pending review  (jflory7, 21:15:38)
  * LINK:

https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
(jflory7, 21:15:51)
  * === Rebase-helper tool for rebases and for upstream monitoring
services ===  (jflory7, 21:16:03)
  * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12367&preview=1&_ppp=42481a4911
(jflory7, 21:16:22)
  * AGREED: This article will be scheduled for tomorrow morning at 8:00
UTC!  (jflory7, 21:18:27)
  * === Files: Connect to a server with SSH ===  (jflory7, 21:18:42)
  * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12442&preview=1&_ppp=1fcf1003be
(jflory7, 21:18:47)
  * AGREED: Article looks ready to ship! Scheduled for 2016-04-06 at
8:00 UTC  (jflory7, 21:23:17)

* Drafts  (jflory7, 21:23:23)
  * === Gimp – A fast overview ===  (jflory7, 21:26:07)
  * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=11874&preview=1&_ppp=ba252c6dea
(jflory7, 21:26:28)
  * AGREED: Article is almost complete, designated to be finished Monday
/ Tuesday next week. Publication date of 2016-04-08.  (jflory7,
21:29:26)
  * === Protect your privacy with OpenVPN ===  (jflory7, 21:29:37)
  * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10253&preview=1&_ppp=8a4d5171f8
(jflory7, 21:29:44)
  * AGREED: nirik and ryanlerch to work on this one together; tentative
deadline for a publication on 2016-04-22 or 2016-04-25  (jflory7,
21:38:34)
  * ACTION: jflory7 Change article ownership to nirik, set deadline in
Magazine for first draft  (jflory7, 21:38:55)
  * === COPR: the road ahead ===  (jflory7, 21:39:52)
  * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12293&preview=1&_ppp=a5343cdfc9
(jflory7, 21:39:59)
  * AGREED: Article is still in progress; will check in with stickster
next week to check in on progress and see if we can schedule it for
that following week  (jflory7, 21:42:03)

* Pitches  (jflory7, 21:42:18)
  * LINK:

https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post
(jflory7, 21:42:47)
  * === How to take screenshots on Fedora Workstation ===  (jflory7,
21:43:04)
  * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12434&preview=true   (jflory7,
21:43:08)
  * AGREED: ryanlerch will finish this article up and aim for a
publication on Monday, 2016-04-04  (jflory7, 21:50:13)
  * === Screenshot everything with Shutter on Fedora ===  (jflory7,
21:50:24)
  * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12432&preview=true   (jflory7,
21:50:30)
  * AGREED: Awesome idea! ryanlerch has the greenlight to go for it!
(jflory7, 21:51:09)

* Final publishing schedule  (jflory7, 21:51:18)
  * AGREED: FINAL PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 2016-04-01, "Rebase-helper tool
for rebases and for upstream monitoring services"; 2016-04-04, "How
to take screenshots on Fedora Workstation", ryanlerch; 2016-04-06,
"Files: Connect to a server with SSH", stickster; 2016-04-08, "Gimp
– A fast overview", lailah  (jflory7, 21:53:27)

* Open Floor  (jflory7, 21:53:33)
  * ACTION: nirik open a loop with decause with the details on our
prospective CDN sponsor for blogs, and maybe other parts of Fedora
too!  (decause, 22:02:45)
  * Opensource.com hit over 1M monthly page views this month!  (decause,
22:04:28)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme   (jflory7, 22:04:58)
  * ryanlerch fixed two issues i

Re: [Marketing] Rebase-helper article

2016-03-31 Thread Ryan Lerch
Okies, from the meeting today, this one has been schedule for tomorrow
morning (Friday) at 8:00 UTC!

cheers,
ryanlerch

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Petr Hracek  wrote:

> Hi Ryan,
> I read updated article and seems to be fine.
> I have realized, you removed a part about API.
> Is there any reason for it?
>
> Though, thanks for the review. It is better then my.
> Greetings
> Petr
> On 03/28/2016 09:37 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 10:27:02AM -0300, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ryan!
>>>
>>> I can't see the preview.  It says I haven't permissions enough.
>>>
>> Ryan and others -- note there is now a Public Preview plugin
>> installed, just like on the community blog.  Once you save an article
>> the first time, you can share a public link with a nonce, and that
>> link allows the article to be previewed by anyone.
>>
>>
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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 03/31/2016 01:20 PM, Aleksander Charatonik wrote:
> Can I revoke my +1? ;)

It depends on the class of +1 you hold. If you purchased your +1 fare at
full price, it can be transferred or revoked. If you purchased your +1
fare at a discount, there will be a mandatory change fee. Please see
your ticketing agent for details. Not valid in Wisconsin. All taxes and
fees will be withheld.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

2016-03-31 Thread Marketing Team
#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by bproffit):

 Latest feedback included and SVG files uploaded for review.

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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Aleksander Charatonik
Can I revoke my +1? ;)

I hadn't considered how soon April Fools is.

On 03/31/2016 12:17 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 31 March 2016 at 07:14, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 08:44:07AM -0300, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
>>> Hi everyone!
>>>
>>> I like the idea of doing some pranks in that day  (that I don't
>>> remember which one exactly is).  I think we should throw some ideas to
>>> the list, and see which one looks best.
>>> If we can prank on something else but another company better, if not,
>>> I don't mind to joke on Microsoft as Chaoyi said they have been joking
>>> on us for a long while.
>>
>> -1 on this idea.  April Fools Day isn't a global event, for one thing,
>> so we'd be going over the heads of some folks.  Also satire runs the
>> risk of poking people in the eye unintentionally, and we shouldn't be
>> doing that either.  I think this idea has come up multiple times over
>> the last 13 years and usually shot down for the same reasons.  Let's
>> leave the April Fools stuff to the snarky outlets.
> 
> From past experiences, April Fool's jokes require weeks to months of
> preparation to get right. Most of the time doing it at the last minute
> comes across as exactly that: last minute. It then gets
> misinterpreted, offensive, or a dozen other things than a little
> cheeky comment to make people smile and laugh for a minute.
> 
> 
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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 31 March 2016 at 07:14, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 08:44:07AM -0300, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> I like the idea of doing some pranks in that day  (that I don't
>> remember which one exactly is).  I think we should throw some ideas to
>> the list, and see which one looks best.
>> If we can prank on something else but another company better, if not,
>> I don't mind to joke on Microsoft as Chaoyi said they have been joking
>> on us for a long while.
>
> -1 on this idea.  April Fools Day isn't a global event, for one thing,
> so we'd be going over the heads of some folks.  Also satire runs the
> risk of poking people in the eye unintentionally, and we shouldn't be
> doing that either.  I think this idea has come up multiple times over
> the last 13 years and usually shot down for the same reasons.  Let's
> leave the April Fools stuff to the snarky outlets.

From past experiences, April Fool's jokes require weeks to months of
preparation to get right. Most of the time doing it at the last minute
comes across as exactly that: last minute. It then gets
misinterpreted, offensive, or a dozen other things than a little
cheeky comment to make people smile and laugh for a minute.



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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Gerard Braad
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 08:44:07AM -0300, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:not
> -1 on this idea.  April Fools Day isn't a global event, for one thing,
> so we'd be going over the heads of some folks.

I agree. It is often misunderstood here too. better to avoid it...

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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 03/31/2016 11:54 AM, Eric Nicholls wrote:
> Microsoft recently announced that it will run Ubuntu on Windows 10. What
> about Red Hat partnering with Microsoft for a Fedora/Windows Dual Boot.
> 
> Or Adobe Photoshop support on Linux.
> 
> Or. Fedora will support Proprietary Software and sell it through Gnome
> Software.

None of these really strike me as funny, and also look likely to be
misinterpreted.

My suggestion is we drop the April Fool's idea for this year. It's about
12 hours until April 1 (here) and we really don't have time to execute
anything worthy of Fedora.

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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Eric Nicholls
Microsoft recently announced that it will run Ubuntu on Windows 10. What
about Red Hat partnering with Microsoft for a Fedora/Windows Dual Boot.

Or Adobe Photoshop support on Linux.

Or. Fedora will support Proprietary Software and sell it through Gnome
Software.

#justsomerandomideas


*Eric Nicholls*

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Joe Brockmeier  wrote:

> On 03/31/2016 09:51 AM, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:22:14PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> >> I agree with Paul on this, so a -1 from me too.
> >
> > I'm not an April fool fan, so I would agree with you, but I've to admit
> > that it could be nice to have some buzz on Fedora.
>
> Yes, but we really should have thought about this weeks ago and done
> something really fun.
>
> I'm also -1, for reasons Ryan and Paul already articulated.
>
> Best,
>
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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Aleksander Charatonik
I think a good April Fools joke draws attention, but it's generally not
positive or negative. People will link to the April Fool's joke on
social media with a title like "look at what Fedora did for April
Fools!", find it funny (or not), and move on with their day. A joke
that's not funny isn't a grave offense.

 If people hate an April Fools joke, they're more likely to blame the
day than the source, eg "I hate how everyone's making these desperate
unfunny bids for attention on this particular day" and not "I hate this
obvious bid for attention from Fedora."

Plenty of people and communities do April Fools jokes. You see them from
individuals, from huge companies like Google or Microsoft, and from
communities like Gentoo. Even if April Fools isn't a global event, it's
more-or-less been made one on the internet.

The largest risk is probably just making a joke that's in poor taste,
which I don't think is a /huge/ risk, but better safe than sorry. People
can be fickle, and hopefully someone can make that call.

I'd say +1 for the April Fools' joke.

It's relatively low-risk, and it's a break away from what some may
perceive to be a "generic, sanitized, playing-it-safe uninspired blog
that exists solely to promote Fedora and doesn't provide anything of value."

It's fun, and given a choice between marketing and not marketing, I'd
rather lean towards marketing than arguing whether something is safe enough.

I'll be the first to admit I know nothing of marketing, though.

Aleksander Charatonik

On 03/31/2016 08:22 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> I can't really think of any potential PR or marketing gain for us from
> making a joke like this.



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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Oliver Falk
OK: http://redhat.at/



Did this a few years ago. Enjoy :-)



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Sent: Thursday 31st March 2016 16:51
To: Fedora Marketing team 
Cc: Chaoyi Zha 
Subject: Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article


On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:10:28PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2016 19:36, "Chaoyi Zha"  wrote:
> > For instance, Microsoft recently has posted an article about "bash in
> Windows 10", which also includes a section joking about the availability of
> Ubuntu binaries within Windows 10.

Note that this is actually _not a joke_.


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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:10:28PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2016 19:36, "Chaoyi Zha"  wrote:
> > For instance, Microsoft recently has posted an article about "bash in
> Windows 10", which also includes a section joking about the availability of
> Ubuntu binaries within Windows 10.

Note that this is actually _not a joke_.


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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 03/31/2016 09:51 AM, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:22:14PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>> I agree with Paul on this, so a -1 from me too.
> 
> I'm not an April fool fan, so I would agree with you, but I've to admit
> that it could be nice to have some buzz on Fedora.

Yes, but we really should have thought about this weeks ago and done
something really fun.

I'm also -1, for reasons Ryan and Paul already articulated.

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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Yes, like  "And Happy April Fool's Day to everyone!".  That would
place everything correctly as a joke.


My thoughts,
Sylvia

On 31/03/2016, Ryan Gauger  wrote:
>
>
>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 08:51, Fabio Alessandro Locati 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:22:14PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>>> I agree with Paul on this, so a -1 from me too.
>>
>> I'm not an April fool fan, so I would agree with you, but I've to admit
>> that it could be nice to have some buzz on Fedora.
>>
>> I think that if we decide to do it, it should be absolutely not related
>> (or relating) to any other company/organization/brand that is not
>> Fedora. Also it would be nice to make it pretty clearly (at least if the
>> person does read the full article) that is an April fool.
>>
>> Best,
>> Fabio
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> I say it's a good idea. +1 from me. Maybe we could put something at the end
> of the article.
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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Ryan Gauger


> On Mar 31, 2016, at 08:51, Fabio Alessandro Locati  
> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:22:14PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>> I agree with Paul on this, so a -1 from me too.
> 
> I'm not an April fool fan, so I would agree with you, but I've to admit
> that it could be nice to have some buzz on Fedora.
> 
> I think that if we decide to do it, it should be absolutely not related
> (or relating) to any other company/organization/brand that is not
> Fedora. Also it would be nice to make it pretty clearly (at least if the
> person does read the full article) that is an April fool.
> 
> Best,
> Fabio
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> https://keybase.io/fale

I say it's a good idea. +1 from me. Maybe we could put something at the end of 
the article.

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Re: [Marketing] [Proposal] Auto-publish CommBlog posts to main @Fedora Twitter Account

2016-03-31 Thread Frinx C
I would love to put focus in, and volunteer to help with with anything
Twitter related.
On Mar 30, 2016 8:48 PM, "Justin W. Flory"  wrote:

> On 03/28/2016 09:31 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>
>> On 03/28/2016 03:04 PM, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It has been suggested that we adjust the community blog's jetpack
>>> plugin to post to the main @Fedora twitter account, so that we are not
>>> dividing our content. The only possible issue that we have here is
>>> that there is occasional cross-promotion that occurs between Magazine
>>> and CommBlog. When we have big announcements--we post pointer or
>>> wrapper articles between the two. This would create some overlap or
>>> echo within the twitter feed.
>>>
>>> Even with this echo consideration in mind, I would propose to the mktg
>>> list that we auto-publish posts from the CommBlog to the main @Fedora
>>> twitter account, now that we've established our readership and
>>> editorial process a bit further.
>>>
>>> This will *significantly* improve the visibility of our contributor
>>> focused content published on CommBlog, as well as increase the
>>> frequency of posts to the @Fedora twitter account (roughly 2-10
>>> articles per week.)
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your time and attention to this proposal, and votes
>>> and discussions are welcome here.
>>>
>>
>> We've had two -1s for auto-posting, so I'd suggest a bit of a
>> modification:
>>
>> 1) Let everything from Community Blog auto-post to @fedoracommunity, but
>> make the profile clear that's exactly what it is. No effort to build
>> following there but if it grows organically, spiffy.
>>
>> 2) Explicitly add Community Blog to sources for human-curated content
>> going to @fedora.
>>
>># # #
>>
>> Also, can we get a sound-off on the humans who currently *are* curating
>> content? It feels a bit wild west to me at the moment, as I'm never
>> quite sure if there's anybody at the switch on a particular day.
>>
>> And is anybody tending to @replies to @fedora?
>>
>>
> I'm also -1 to auto-posting to the Fedora accounts because of the human
> aspect. It is possible to generate tailored messages within Jetpack for
> posts to automatically go out when an article is published, but this can
> cause problems when you post to multiple platforms (e.g. tagging @thisThing
> works on Twitter but doesn't on Facebook, Google+ has +thisThing and nobody
> else does, etc.).
>
> In short, I think carefully curating the content posted to the "main"
> social media account is the right way to do it, even if it's more manual
> labor.
>
> As for the Community Blog proposals listed by jzb, I'm +1 to both. I see
> no harm in having *ALL* CommBlog posts go to @fedoracommunity, but
> sometimes there might be an article that is worthwhile to share with the
> greater community, even those who aren't exclusively contributors to
> Fedora. Therefore, I also see no harm in having Community Blog articles
> posted to official @Fedora accounts while keeping the @fedoracommunity
> account standing.
>
> In my eyes, the idea is that we handpick content from the CommBlog that
> should be syndicated with the larger social media presence. Not everything
> that comes out on the CommBlog needs to be shared on all the accounts all
> the time.
>
> To help answer that question about who is behind Fedora social media, I
> CC'd the social media list in case anyone with privileges is watching that
> list and can chime in to confirm. As far as Twitter goes, I don't actively
> see the @Fedora account replying or engaging with replies or content, but I
> wonder if this is a manpower issue? This came up between me and bkp at a
> meeting, I think, but there are not any SOPs documenting how to get
> involved with social media or how someone can contribute outside of posting
> to the social-media mailing list. If more hands are needed for this, I
> would also be happy to volunteer some time to help with engagement.
>
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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:22:14PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> I agree with Paul on this, so a -1 from me too.

I'm not an April fool fan, so I would agree with you, but I've to admit
that it could be nice to have some buzz on Fedora.

I think that if we decide to do it, it should be absolutely not related
(or relating) to any other company/organization/brand that is not
Fedora. Also it would be nice to make it pretty clearly (at least if the
person does read the full article) that is an April fool.

Best,
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Re: [Marketing] [commops] [Magazine] Planning ahead for this Friday

2016-03-31 Thread James Hogarth
On 31 March 2016 at 14:21, Paul W. Frields  wrote:

> I don't think it's a young vs. old thing.
>
> (1) April Fools Day doesn't translate everywhere, and we should be
> seeking the widest possible international audience.
>
> (2) Satire usually is about poking someone else in the eye, and that's
> not good marketing.
>
> (3) Your funny may be someone else's offense.  We should stick to
> facts and features.
>
> Let's leave this to other general and more snarky online venues,
> please.
>
>
>

I can't see any *good* from doing April's fools articles ... I'd rather FM
is kept a sane island.

As for the mail originating this thread the Ubuntu userland (bash and
apt-get etc) on windows 10 isn't an April Fools ...
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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Ryan Lerch
I agree with Paul on this, so a -1 from me too.

Too much of a risk that people don't think it is funny, or of offending
someone. I can't really think of any potential PR or marketing gain for us
from making a joke like this.

cheers,
ryanlerch

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Paul W. Frields 
wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 08:44:07AM -0300, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > I like the idea of doing some pranks in that day  (that I don't
> > remember which one exactly is).  I think we should throw some ideas to
> > the list, and see which one looks best.
> > If we can prank on something else but another company better, if not,
> > I don't mind to joke on Microsoft as Chaoyi said they have been joking
> > on us for a long while.
>
> -1 on this idea.  April Fools Day isn't a global event, for one thing,
> so we'd be going over the heads of some folks.  Also satire runs the
> risk of poking people in the eye unintentionally, and we shouldn't be
> doing that either.  I think this idea has come up multiple times over
> the last 13 years and usually shot down for the same reasons.  Let's
> leave the April Fools stuff to the snarky outlets.
>
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Re: [Marketing] [commops] [Magazine] Planning ahead for this Friday

2016-03-31 Thread Paul W. Frields
I don't think it's a young vs. old thing.

(1) April Fools Day doesn't translate everywhere, and we should be
seeking the widest possible international audience.

(2) Satire usually is about poking someone else in the eye, and that's
not good marketing.

(3) Your funny may be someone else's offense.  We should stick to
facts and features.

Let's leave this to other general and more snarky online venues,
please.

Paul

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:59:30PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> Maybe I am just getting old and cranky, but IMHO, most of these April
> Fool's "Jokes" that I have seen in recent years have made me cringe.
> 
> just my opinion, now get off my lawn.
> --ryanlerch
> 
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Sylvia Sánchez  wrote:
> 
> > I think it should be something less subtle.  I didn't even know that
> > Internet Explorer now it's called Edge or something like that.  About
> > Chakra...  I've got completely lost.  If nobody says it I'd took it
> > for good.
> > To me, it should be something more obvious, that anyone can read,
> > understand and have a laugh.
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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 08:44:07AM -0300, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> I like the idea of doing some pranks in that day  (that I don't
> remember which one exactly is).  I think we should throw some ideas to
> the list, and see which one looks best.
> If we can prank on something else but another company better, if not,
> I don't mind to joke on Microsoft as Chaoyi said they have been joking
> on us for a long while.

-1 on this idea.  April Fools Day isn't a global event, for one thing,
so we'd be going over the heads of some folks.  Also satire runs the
risk of poking people in the eye unintentionally, and we shouldn't be
doing that either.  I think this idea has come up multiple times over
the last 13 years and usually shot down for the same reasons.  Let's
leave the April Fools stuff to the snarky outlets.

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Re: [Marketing] [commops] [Magazine] Planning ahead for this Friday

2016-03-31 Thread Ryan Lerch
Maybe I am just getting old and cranky, but IMHO, most of these April
Fool's "Jokes" that I have seen in recent years have made me cringe.

just my opinion, now get off my lawn.
--ryanlerch

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Sylvia Sánchez  wrote:

> I think it should be something less subtle.  I didn't even know that
> Internet Explorer now it's called Edge or something like that.  About
> Chakra...  I've got completely lost.  If nobody says it I'd took it
> for good.
> To me, it should be something more obvious, that anyone can read,
> understand and have a laugh.
>
>
>
> My thoughts,
> Sylvia
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[Marketing] Marketing trac #222: Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)

2016-03-31 Thread James Bishop
Hello everyone.

As per last night's meeting, I'm jumping in on this ticket. Just wanted
to touch base with those currently working on this to get a sense of
where things are and what I can do to help.

Thanks!

James
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Re: [Marketing] [commops] [Magazine] Planning ahead for this Friday

2016-03-31 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
I think it should be something less subtle.  I didn't even know that
Internet Explorer now it's called Edge or something like that.  About
Chakra...  I've got completely lost.  If nobody says it I'd took it
for good.
To me, it should be something more obvious, that anyone can read,
understand and have a laugh.



My thoughts,
Sylvia
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Re: [Marketing] April Fool's Article

2016-03-31 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Hi everyone!

I like the idea of doing some pranks in that day  (that I don't
remember which one exactly is).  I think we should throw some ideas to
the list, and see which one looks best.
If we can prank on something else but another company better, if not,
I don't mind to joke on Microsoft as Chaoyi said they have been joking
on us for a long while.


Cheers,
Sylvia
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Re: [Marketing] Gimp article update 2

2016-03-31 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Yes, perfect
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