[Marketing] Re: Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  closed
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  completed   |   Keywords:
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Changes (by jflory7):

 * keywords:  meeting =>
 * status:  assigned => closed
 * resolution:   => completed


Comment:

 = Brochures off to print =

 With the recent update that the brochures have been sent off to the
 printer, it seems like we're all set on this ticket! I think from a
 Marketing perspective, we're good to close this ticket out. Thanks all to
 everyone who collaborated and provided input on this ticket, your time is
 really appreciated! This will mark the beginning of a new Marketing
 objective for Fedora this year. :)

 Replying to [comment:40 churchyard]:
 > Thanks, it looks great!
 >
 > Some typos:
 >
 > Pypy -> PyPy
 >
 > PyPy is written in python -> Python
 >
 > Fedora Python Porting database -> Fedora Python 3 Porting Database
 (notice both capital D and number 3)
 >
 > to porting Python 2 packages to Python3 -> Python 3
 >
 > I've marked those with green in:
 >
 > https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/attachment/ticket/219/preview-
 inner.png

 This feedback missed the deadline to make it for the printer, but I am
 going to forward this comment to the [https://fedorahosted.org/design-
 team/ticket/434 Design Team ticket 434] so it is logged there for later
 correction. These changes won't make it in for this run, but we'll get
 them in for next time.

 Thanks again everyone! Nice work.

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by duffy):

 updated print ready file
 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/434/python-
 fedora_final.pdf

 (previews, etc on design team ticket, including alternate version of PDF
 for home printing / digital distrbution)

 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/434

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by duffy):

 > = Proposed changes =
 >
 > * Add information about Fedora Workstation, how to get it, imply its
 focus towards developers
 > * '''Add''': "By default, Fedora uses Python3 and helps contribute to
 porting Python2 packages to Python3. You can see more on the Fedora Python
 Porting database (and get a badge for helping).
 http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/;
 > * '''Change''': "Ansible, OpenStack, and PiTiVi are all built with
 Python and available in Fedora."
 >

 Hey so I'm trying to make these changes now and can't:

 - Where is the Fedora Workstation text to add?
 - Theres isnt space to add the stuff about Fedora using Python 3. I
 propose cutting a lot of the Fedora stuff on the leftmost panel of the
 inside and placing this there. (Basically the three grey blocks that say
 fedora strives to -- blah blah. Just kept the first paragraph about
 Fedora, then put in the one about Fedoras porting project for python.)
 - I was expecting this to be an obvious change in an existing sentence but
 I can't find it so I don't know where this is meantto go. * '''Change''':
 "Ansible, OpenStack, and PiTiVi are all built with Python and available in
 Fedora."

 Some direction would be great. I would really like to get this finalized
 by EOB today so I can prep it for print.

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  meeting
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Comment (by bproffit):

 duffy: Okay that's great, thanks! I will honor (and enforce) your
 deadline.

 Peace,
 BKP

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  meeting
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Comment (by churchyard):

 We also have those stickers in Brno https://github.com/fedora-python
 /fedora-loves-python

 I think some other events might use them as well.

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by churchyard):

 Replying to [comment:32 jflory7]:

 > * '''Add''': "By default, Fedora uses Python3 and helps contribute to
 porting Python2 packages to Python3. You can see more on the Fedora Python
 Porting database (and get a badge for helping).
 http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/;
 Make sure to add spaces between Python and the version number e.g. Python
 3, not Python3.

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by decause):

 Stickers:
 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/raw-attachment/ticket/442/hexspec-
 sticker-python_no-text.pdf

 Brochure (under construction):
 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/434/python-
 fedora.pdf

 Tshirts:
 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/431#comment:8

 Poster:
 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/raw-attachment/ticket/444
 /fedora_python_poster-landscape.pdf

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
-+---
  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by jflory7):

 Replying to [comment:31 churchyard]:
 > > Any ideas of how we can relate that in the brochure? I'm a little
 sparse for ideas but I agree with what you're saying.
 >
 > Maybe "Ansible, OpenStack, and PiTiVi are all built with Python and
 available in Fedora"
 >

 Hah, maybe I was overthinking it. This seems great to me.

 > > Anything else to add in here?
 >
 > You can get a badge for Python 3 porting, maybe show the badge there as
 well?
 >
 > https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/parselmouth

 = Proposed changes =

 * Add information about Fedora Workstation, how to get it, imply its focus
 towards developers
 * '''Add''': "By default, Fedora uses Python3 and helps contribute to
 porting Python2 packages to Python3. You can see more on the Fedora Python
 Porting database (and get a badge for helping).
 http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/;
 * '''Change''': "Ansible, OpenStack, and PiTiVi are all built with Python
 and available in Fedora."

 Anything else to add in here?

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by jflory7):

 Replying to [comment:29 churchyard]:
 > Also, the picture here https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedoras-
 love-python-continues/ has Gimp in it, that should have been spelled GIMP.
 The sentence was never discussed here :(

 This was an editing mistake on my part. I have just corrected the
 capitalization in the announcement. Thanks for catching it!

 Replying to [comment:26 churchyard]:
 > "Ansible, OpenStack, and PiTiVi are all built with Python." - that cool,
 but how doea sthe reader relate those things to Fedora? - this still
 stands.
 >

 Any ideas of how we can relate that in the brochure? I'm a little sparse
 for ideas but I agree with what you're saying.

 = Modifying brochure in time for PyCon =

 We are in a bit of a time crunch for this ticket due to the upcoming PyCon
 events across the world, and the time needed to print the brochures. bkp
 and I were going to check in with mizmo about the printing status and if
 it was too late to add more (just pinged in #fedora-design). I meant to
 follow up sooner on this but it slipped my mind.

 To help expedite any potential changes, I have a bullet-point list of the
 proposed revisions.

 = Proposed changes =

 * Add information about Fedora Workstation, how to get it, imply its focus
 towards developers
 * "By default, Fedora uses Python3 and helps contribute to porting Python2
 packages to Python3. You can see more on the Fedora Python Porting
 database. http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/;

 Anything else to add in here?

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by churchyard):

 Also, the picture here https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedoras-
 love-python-continues/ has Gimp in it, that should have been spelled GIMP.
 The sentence was never discussed here :(

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Changes (by jflory7):

 * keywords:  python, meeting => meeting


Comment:

 Adjusting keywords for this ticket so it actually shows up in the Trac
 report properly. This is on the agenda for tomorrow, we're going to see if
 we can begin to finalize details on this ticket then.

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by churchyard):

 "Ansible, OpenStack, and PiTiVi are all built with Python." - that cool,
 but how doea sthe reader relate those things to Fedora? - this still
 stands.

 Also, any chance to promote Python 3 porting activities, such as
 http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/ ?

 Duffy made a fair point as well.

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by churchyard):

 I wouldn't rush with printing this. Honestly, I think it's far from ready.

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by duffy):

 brochure, prepped for print:
 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/434

 feed back from a python dev who read my print out:

 - "the first panel as you open it up makes the call for you to use fedora
 - comes on too strong, comes off preachy. ease into it"

 - "the last panel on the inside isnt too useful to me at all"

 - "there's no mention of fedora workstation or how to get it. that's
 focused towards developers. i'd want to learn about that."

 take it fwiw.

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by churchyard):

 We don't have resources/time to develop it any further or even fix bugs
 etc.

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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by bproffit):

 What's wrong with DevAssistant? I'm not defending it, but a reason would
 be helpful.

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by churchyard):

 You write Pip with capital letter, pypy all lower case, Python sometimes
 as Python and sometimes as python :(

 Please do not promote DevAssistant in there.

 "Ansible, OpenStack, and PiTiVi are all built with Python." - that cool,
 but how doea sthe reader relate those things to Fedora?

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by bproffit):

 Updated brochures with feedback from jflory7 and churchyard

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Changes (by jdulaney):

 * cc: jdulaney (added)


Comment:

 micropython is coming to Fedora:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1323966

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Changes (by churchyard):

 * cc: churchyard (added)


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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by churchyard):

 Replying to [comment:10 zbyszek]:
 > dnf install python-thingy does not work anymore. dnf does not support
 install by Provides, and most packages are now called python2-thingy or
 python3-thingy.

 Yes, dnf does support installing by Provides. dnf install python-thingy
 still works.

 > I'd also add a blurb like:
 >Fedora 24 includes 1278 rpms for Python 2.7 and 2873 for Python 3.5.
 >
 > (This is the result of dnf repoquery --releasever=24 --whatrequires
 'python(abi) = 2.7' --qf '%{name}'|sort -u|wc -l. Maybe some better query
 should be used.)

 This might help as well http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/

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[Marketing] Re: Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:  jflory7
  Type:  task| Status:  assigned
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Changes (by jflory7):

 * cc: mizmo (added)
 * owner:   => jflory7
 * status:  new => assigned


Comment:

 '''Discussed in [https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
 meeting-1/2016-04-06/marketing.2016-04-06-20.55.html 2016-04-06
 meeting].'''

 = PyCon NA =

 [https://us.pycon.org/2016/ PyCon North America] is happening in Portland,
 Oregon, from May 28th to June 5th. This is a major Python event just on
 the horizon where we will be able to execute some of these marketing
 materials and talking points firsthand.

 = Brochure comments =

 decause left some comments about the brochure during and after the meeting
 for some brainstorming.

 == Replacing subtitle text ==

 * '''Subtitle text''': "A love story involving Python and Fedora"
  * Suggestion 1:
   * Line 1: In a Relationship with Python
   * Line 2: Since November 2003
  * Suggestion 2: Together, Forever, since 2003

 == Leading edge ==

 There is a double leading edge on inside panel of "Developing Python on
 Fedora".

 == Mission statement ==

 Replacing…

 "Fedora incorporates leading-edge..."

 …with…

 "The Fedora Project's mission is to lead the advancement of Free and open
 source software and content as a collaborative community."

 = Next up! =

 After this, we're going to focus on generating some static talking points
 about Fedora in Python, probably somewhere on the wiki of something of
 that nature doesn't already exist.

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[Marketing] Re: Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

[Marketing Team]

#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Comment (by ncoghlan):

 The SVG's don't contain any content for me, so I don't know what's already
 mentioned :(

 General resources to link to: https://developer.fedoraproject.org/

 MicroPython and the BBC micro:bit may be worth mentioning, but I'm not
 entirely clear on the current status of those. I've requested more info
 regarding MicroPython at
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1113915#c16

 Details on working with the micro:bit are covered in
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Micro_Bit

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