Re: Infographic: (Was Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project)

[Robyn Bergeron]

- Original Message -
> From: "Joe Brockmeier" 
> To: "Fedora Marketing team" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 6:59:36 AM
> Subject: Infographic: (Was Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project)
> 
> On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 05:20:43AM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> > I like this idea a lot - I think we could probably do something that would
> > be awesome to the point of people wanting to print it out and frame it :)
> 
> Or perhaps put on a t-shirt?
> 
> > Do you want to break this idea out into a separate mailing list thread so
> > it doesn't get lost? I've got a couple of things I can share just in the
> > way of "how to make awesome infographics" as well as data points. I don't
> > know that total # of versions/commits is going to work as sanely as it
> > would for other (smaller, more self-contained) projects, but I think there
> > are plenty of other data points to make use of.
> 
> Started a separate thread. :-) Maybe we should do this on the wiki as
> well?
> 
> Not sure what kind of data we have available, but things that might be
> interesting:
> 
> # of packages in Fedora from FC1 - F20
> # of contributors over time
> Size of "minimal" install over time?
> # of languages supported in FC1 - F20?
> # of release names that are as nifty as "Beefy Miracle"

Yes, I agree - though some of these may be hard to obtain or have changed over 
time with regards to the collection methodology (# of contributors is a good 
example; the move from the CLA to the FPCA essentially was a reset on the 
contributor-counter).

Other things:

* Number of different spins created
* Number of unique IP connections
* Number of OLPC XO's shipped with Fedora
* Shortest / longest development cycle
* Number of FUDCons, Where FUDCons have been
* Number of acceptable licenses
* Number of continents on which Fedora is used and/or developed (Because Jef 
Spaleta is awesome and makes Antarctica happen)
* Number of Fedora Ambassadors
* Number of people who have been on the Board, FESCo, FAmSCo

Anyone else have ideas? 

Infographics can be fun, when done right; making a comprehensive list of data 
points available is the place to start, and then we can see about how to turn 
those points into something that tells a story or makes a meaningful point and 
then figure out how to make that work visually, rather than putting lots of 
charts into one large picture and hoping it says something. 

And yes - having a wiki page would be a good idea. So here it is: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AnniversaryInfographic

If you do have ideas on data points (or even the actual data to go with it!) - 
feel free to share and discuss on list, but it's super helpful to also have 
them in the wiki page as well.

-robyn


> 
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 8:16 AM,  wrote:
> > 
> > > Something else to think about:
> > >
> > > An infographic for the November anniversary could be pretty cool, with
> > > representations of total versions/commits/etc.  Any thoughts on that or
> > > what numbers/stats could be included?
> 
> Best,
> 
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Infographic: (Was Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project)

[Joe Brockmeier]

On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 05:20:43AM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> I like this idea a lot - I think we could probably do something that would
> be awesome to the point of people wanting to print it out and frame it :)

Or perhaps put on a t-shirt?

> Do you want to break this idea out into a separate mailing list thread so
> it doesn't get lost? I've got a couple of things I can share just in the
> way of "how to make awesome infographics" as well as data points. I don't
> know that total # of versions/commits is going to work as sanely as it
> would for other (smaller, more self-contained) projects, but I think there
> are plenty of other data points to make use of.

Started a separate thread. :-) Maybe we should do this on the wiki as
well? 

Not sure what kind of data we have available, but things that might be
interesting:

# of packages in Fedora from FC1 - F20
# of contributors over time 
Size of "minimal" install over time? 
# of languages supported in FC1 - F20?
# of release names that are as nifty as "Beefy Miracle"

> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 8:16 AM,  wrote:
> 
> > Something else to think about:
> >
> > An infographic for the November anniversary could be pretty cool, with
> > representations of total versions/commits/etc.  Any thoughts on that or
> > what numbers/stats could be included?

Best, 

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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[Robyn Bergeron]

I have a few ideas on data- I've seen most of the info over and over and
over :)

I like this idea a lot - I think we could probably do something that would
be awesome to the point of people wanting to print it out and frame it :)

Do you want to break this idea out into a separate mailing list thread so
it doesn't get lost? I've got a couple of things I can share just in the
way of "how to make awesome infographics" as well as data points. I don't
know that total # of versions/commits is going to work as sanely as it
would for other (smaller, more self-contained) projects, but I think there
are plenty of other data points to make use of.

-robyn


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 8:16 AM,  wrote:

> Something else to think about:
>
> An infographic for the November anniversary could be pretty cool, with
> representations of total versions/commits/etc.  Any thoughts on that or
> what numbers/stats could be included?
>
>
> John Terrill
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>
> On 08/28/2013 10:43 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:10:44AM -0400, Ruth Suehle wrote:
>>
>>> I talked to John Terrill, our new PR contact at Red Hat about this
>>> just yesterday. We'll definitely get the word out, but if anybody has
>>> ideas for things we can do at this point, speak up! The team originally
>>> talked about doing 52 weeks of interviews with Fedorans new and old,
>>> but I have no idea where the people who were working on the plan have
>>> gone. (Are you there? ...out there? ...out there?) That also may have
>>> been overly ambitious. But we could resurrect that plan with the renewed
>>> interest in the marketing team, and rather than 52 leading up to the
>>> anniversary, we could do one per month during the next year /starting/
>>> with the anniversary. Thoughts?
>>>
>>
>> I like the moxie, but 52 weeks might be a bit much. I don't know that
>> we'd hold people's interest with a new interview each week, even
>> assuming we get them completed and published.
>>
>> A monthly retrospective would be good, I think. What if we focused on
>> different teams in Fedora, major milestones, etc.?
>>
>> e.g. - September: FPL retrospective w/interviews; October: Major
>> technical achievements that landed 1st in Fedora; November: How Fedora
>> got its four Fs
>>
>> etc.
>>
>> I think those would have some social media value and interest. Thoughts?
>>
>> jzb
>>
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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[Gabriele Trombini @mailga]

Hello,

In data mercoledì 28 agosto 2013 17:22:37, Zoltan Hoppar ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> I think weekly basis is much better, as the next Fedora release is not
> earlier as 2013-11-26. So, having retrospective with inserts from
> earlier conference pictures, and features made we together, and
> running systems,  FPLs I think let it be 10 week 10 interview with
> inserts, documentary like - and visualization of as the code has
> evolved. Gource vid as insert perhaps? Community size, registered
> projects, number of features per release perhaps...
> 
> Zoltan
> 

I'm thinking about this idea and it seems good to me, but why don't include (in 
the 
documentary like project as Zoltan said) the changes of technological world (or 
in the 
whole world) in these 10 years?

For example, something like:

"in the year 2006 while cpu was pentium core (maybe), fedora switched from the 
release 4 to release 5 and 6"

This can give a concrete temporal order to the growing of Fedora also to  
people not 
able to understand the exact location of the year.

greetings

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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[zacharias.mitzelos]

I would agree on the monthly basis as well, as we would have more time to 
finish the given topic and make sure it is perfect and reflects everything ;) I 
also think that the weekly pace can not only tire the people, but us as well in 
the process.

-Zacharias

--- Original Message ---

From: "Chris Roberts" 
Sent: August 28, 2013 9:24 PM
To: zoltanh...@fedoraproject.org, "Fedora Marketing team" 

Subject: Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

I agree with Joe, monthly seems much more doable. Plus that will give us time 
to make sure we get that months topic covered as best as we can.
I think this is a good case where trac tickets are usable, I believe it can 
help us manage each months project with a little more ease. I was speaking to 
Joe in IRC and we have come up with some good ideas for the marketing trac.


- Chris Roberts

>>> Joe Brockmeier  8/28/2013 1:00 PM >>>
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 05:22:37PM +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
> I think weekly basis is much better, as the next Fedora release is not
> earlier as 2013-11-26. So, having retrospective with inserts from
> earlier conference pictures, and features made we together, and
> running systems,  FPLs I think let it be 10 week 10 interview with
> inserts, documentary like - and visualization of as the code has
> evolved. Gource vid as insert perhaps? Community size, registered
> projects, number of features per release perhaps...


Well, that seems a bit much to 1) produce and 2) promote to me. However,
I won't stand in the way of others if they're going to do the work. I'll
commit to taking on some of a 12-month thing, but the prior results of a
weekly plan (dropped on floor) make me suspect that a weekly pace is a
bit much.

Any other thoughts? I'm happy to start creating Trac tickets for the
project and putting together a plan on the wiki... or content to let
someone else take lead on that and help where needed/where I can.

Best,

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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[Chris Roberts]

I agree with Joe, monthly seems much more doable. Plus that will give us time 
to make sure we get that months topic covered as best as we can. 
I think this is a good case where trac tickets are usable, I believe it can 
help us manage each months project with a little more ease. I was speaking to 
Joe in IRC and we have come up with some good ideas for the marketing trac. 
 
 
- Chris Roberts

>>> Joe Brockmeier  8/28/2013 1:00 PM >>>
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 05:22:37PM +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
> I think weekly basis is much better, as the next Fedora release is not
> earlier as 2013-11-26. So, having retrospective with inserts from
> earlier conference pictures, and features made we together, and
> running systems,  FPLs I think let it be 10 week 10 interview with
> inserts, documentary like - and visualization of as the code has
> evolved. Gource vid as insert perhaps? Community size, registered
> projects, number of features per release perhaps...


Well, that seems a bit much to 1) produce and 2) promote to me. However,
I won't stand in the way of others if they're going to do the work. I'll
commit to taking on some of a 12-month thing, but the prior results of a
weekly plan (dropped on floor) make me suspect that a weekly pace is a
bit much.

Any other thoughts? I'm happy to start creating Trac tickets for the
project and putting together a plan on the wiki... or content to let
someone else take lead on that and help where needed/where I can. 

Best, 

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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[Ruth Suehle]

Having already failed to get the weekly plan going, I'm up for the monthly 
plan. There's a wiki page where we had started brainstorming--I'll try to find 
it.

Joe Brockmeier  wrote:

On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 05:22:37PM +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
> I think weekly basis is much better, as the next Fedora release is not
> earlier as 2013-11-26. So, having retrospective with inserts from
> earlier conference pictures, and features made we together, and
> running systems,  FPLs I think let it be 10 week 10 interview with
> inserts, documentary like - and visualization of as the code has
> evolved. Gource vid as insert perhaps? Community size, registered
> projects, number of features per release perhaps...


Well, that seems a bit much to 1) produce and 2) promote to me. However,
I won't stand in the way of others if they're going to do the work. I'll
commit to taking on some of a 12-month thing, but the prior results of a
weekly plan (dropped on floor) make me suspect that a weekly pace is a
bit much.

Any other thoughts? I'm happy to start creating Trac tickets for the
project and putting together a plan on the wiki... or content to let
someone else take lead on that and help where needed/where I can. 

Best, 

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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[Joe Brockmeier]

On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 05:22:37PM +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
> I think weekly basis is much better, as the next Fedora release is not
> earlier as 2013-11-26. So, having retrospective with inserts from
> earlier conference pictures, and features made we together, and
> running systems,  FPLs I think let it be 10 week 10 interview with
> inserts, documentary like - and visualization of as the code has
> evolved. Gource vid as insert perhaps? Community size, registered
> projects, number of features per release perhaps...


Well, that seems a bit much to 1) produce and 2) promote to me. However,
I won't stand in the way of others if they're going to do the work. I'll
commit to taking on some of a 12-month thing, but the prior results of a
weekly plan (dropped on floor) make me suspect that a weekly pace is a
bit much.

Any other thoughts? I'm happy to start creating Trac tickets for the
project and putting together a plan on the wiki... or content to let
someone else take lead on that and help where needed/where I can. 

Best, 

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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[Zoltan Hoppar]

Hi,

I think weekly basis is much better, as the next Fedora release is not
earlier as 2013-11-26. So, having retrospective with inserts from
earlier conference pictures, and features made we together, and
running systems,  FPLs I think let it be 10 week 10 interview with
inserts, documentary like - and visualization of as the code has
evolved. Gource vid as insert perhaps? Community size, registered
projects, number of features per release perhaps...

Zoltan

2013/8/28 Joe Brockmeier :
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:10:44AM -0400, Ruth Suehle wrote:
>> I talked to John Terrill, our new PR contact at Red Hat about this
>> just yesterday. We'll definitely get the word out, but if anybody has
>> ideas for things we can do at this point, speak up! The team originally
>> talked about doing 52 weeks of interviews with Fedorans new and old,
>> but I have no idea where the people who were working on the plan have
>> gone. (Are you there? ...out there? ...out there?) That also may have
>> been overly ambitious. But we could resurrect that plan with the renewed
>> interest in the marketing team, and rather than 52 leading up to the
>> anniversary, we could do one per month during the next year /starting/
>> with the anniversary. Thoughts?
>
>
> I like the moxie, but 52 weeks might be a bit much. I don't know that
> we'd hold people's interest with a new interview each week, even
> assuming we get them completed and published.
>
> A monthly retrospective would be good, I think. What if we focused on
> different teams in Fedora, major milestones, etc.?
>
> e.g. - September: FPL retrospective w/interviews; October: Major
> technical achievements that landed 1st in Fedora; November: How Fedora
> got its four Fs
>
> etc.
>
> I think those would have some social media value and interest. Thoughts?
>
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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[jterrill]

Something else to think about:

An infographic for the November anniversary could be pretty cool, with 
representations of total versions/commits/etc.  Any thoughts on that or 
what numbers/stats could be included?


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On 08/28/2013 10:43 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:

On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:10:44AM -0400, Ruth Suehle wrote:

I talked to John Terrill, our new PR contact at Red Hat about this
just yesterday. We'll definitely get the word out, but if anybody has
ideas for things we can do at this point, speak up! The team originally
talked about doing 52 weeks of interviews with Fedorans new and old,
but I have no idea where the people who were working on the plan have
gone. (Are you there? ...out there? ...out there?) That also may have
been overly ambitious. But we could resurrect that plan with the renewed
interest in the marketing team, and rather than 52 leading up to the
anniversary, we could do one per month during the next year /starting/
with the anniversary. Thoughts?


I like the moxie, but 52 weeks might be a bit much. I don't know that
we'd hold people's interest with a new interview each week, even
assuming we get them completed and published.

A monthly retrospective would be good, I think. What if we focused on
different teams in Fedora, major milestones, etc.?

e.g. - September: FPL retrospective w/interviews; October: Major
technical achievements that landed 1st in Fedora; November: How Fedora
got its four Fs

etc.

I think those would have some social media value and interest. Thoughts?

jzb


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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[Joe Brockmeier]

On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:10:44AM -0400, Ruth Suehle wrote:
> I talked to John Terrill, our new PR contact at Red Hat about this
> just yesterday. We'll definitely get the word out, but if anybody has
> ideas for things we can do at this point, speak up! The team originally
> talked about doing 52 weeks of interviews with Fedorans new and old,
> but I have no idea where the people who were working on the plan have
> gone. (Are you there? ...out there? ...out there?) That also may have
> been overly ambitious. But we could resurrect that plan with the renewed
> interest in the marketing team, and rather than 52 leading up to the
> anniversary, we could do one per month during the next year /starting/
> with the anniversary. Thoughts?


I like the moxie, but 52 weeks might be a bit much. I don't know that
we'd hold people's interest with a new interview each week, even
assuming we get them completed and published.

A monthly retrospective would be good, I think. What if we focused on
different teams in Fedora, major milestones, etc.? 

e.g. - September: FPL retrospective w/interviews; October: Major
technical achievements that landed 1st in Fedora; November: How Fedora
got its four Fs

etc. 

I think those would have some social media value and interest. Thoughts?

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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[jterrill]

Hi All,

Just to follow up on Ruth's note, we'll definitely be doing something 
for both anniversaries, whether a press blog or a full-fledged release 
is still up in the air.  I'm also working on getting us some video 
assets (in the form of video editing/production) for a series of some 
kind around/leading up to the Core anniversary.  If there are any ideas 
as to how these should take shape, in terms of content or format, fire away.


Thanks,
John

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On 08/28/2013 10:10 AM, Ruth Suehle wrote:

- Original Message -

Just a quick reminder that the next anniversary is approaching fast!

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2012-August/011809.html

It would be great to get some press around this one since we missed
out on the Fedora Community anniversary. It is less than 4 weeks away
now.

I talked to John Terrill, our new PR contact at Red Hat about this just 
yesterday. We'll definitely get the word out, but if anybody has ideas for 
things we can do at this point, speak up! The team originally talked about 
doing 52 weeks of interviews with Fedorans new and old, but I have no idea 
where the people who were working on the plan have gone. (Are you there? ...out 
there? ...out there?) That also may have been overly ambitious. But we could 
resurrect that plan with the renewed interest in the marketing team, and rather 
than 52 leading up to the anniversary, we could do one per month during the 
next year /starting/ with the anniversary. Thoughts?

Ruth


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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[Ruth Suehle]

- Original Message -
> Just a quick reminder that the next anniversary is approaching fast!
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2012-August/011809.html
> 
> It would be great to get some press around this one since we missed
> out on the Fedora Community anniversary. It is less than 4 weeks away
> now.

I talked to John Terrill, our new PR contact at Red Hat about this just 
yesterday. We'll definitely get the word out, but if anybody has ideas for 
things we can do at this point, speak up! The team originally talked about 
doing 52 weeks of interviews with Fedorans new and old, but I have no idea 
where the people who were working on the plan have gone. (Are you there? ...out 
there? ...out there?) That also may have been overly ambitious. But we could 
resurrect that plan with the renewed interest in the marketing team, and rather 
than 52 leading up to the anniversary, we could do one per month during the 
next year /starting/ with the anniversary. Thoughts?

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10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[inode0]

Just a quick reminder that the next anniversary is approaching fast!

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2012-August/011809.html

It would be great to get some press around this one since we missed
out on the Fedora Community anniversary. It is less than 4 weeks away
now.

I know some people had plans to do something around this milestone but
haven't heard anything lately (although I don't really keep close tabs
on what is going on here so I may have missed lots of stuff).

John
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