Level completed

2012-11-28 Thread Larry Sadler

Salutations

Introduction to Marketing module completed .

L


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Larry Sadler 416.354.2952


Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer

2012-11-28 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:

 Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number,
 country, native language, best time to call, and put in some spread-sheet,
 data base?


This is a public list that can be viewed from the internet so is not a good
idea to post private information unless you understand the risks.



 With Warm Regards

 V.Kadal Amutham



 On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote:

  Salutations
 
  Quick profile:
 
   * started using StarOffice 4.x
   * have been using OO regularly then exclusively since
   * hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees
   * major in finance, minor in computers
   * Financial Manager for 8 years
   * IT Services Manager for 8 years
   * currently freelance
   * not a programmer
   * located in Toronto Canada [at least for now]
   * only fluent in English
   * experienced with not for profit organizations
   * open to suggestions where\how to jump in
 
  L
  --
  Larry Sadler 416.354.2952
 




-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org


Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer

2012-11-28 Thread Kadal Amutham
*This is a public list that can be viewed from the internet so is not a good
idea to post private information unless you understand the risks.*

But private information can be safely stored by the moderators. Technology
has ways of doing this

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480


On 28 November 2012 18:29, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:

  Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number,
  country, native language, best time to call, and put in some
 spread-sheet,
  data base?
 

 This is a public list that can be viewed from the internet so is not a good
 idea to post private information unless you understand the risks.


 
  With Warm Regards
 
  V.Kadal Amutham
 
 
 
  On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote:
 
   Salutations
  
   Quick profile:
  
* started using StarOffice 4.x
* have been using OO regularly then exclusively since
* hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees
* major in finance, minor in computers
* Financial Manager for 8 years
* IT Services Manager for 8 years
* currently freelance
* not a programmer
* located in Toronto Canada [at least for now]
* only fluent in English
* experienced with not for profit organizations
* open to suggestions where\how to jump in
  
   L
   --
   Larry Sadler 416.354.2952
  
 



 --
 Alexandro Colorado
 Apache OpenOffice Contributor
 http://es.openoffice.org



Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer

2012-11-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number,
 country, native language, best time to call, and put in some spread-sheet,
 data base?


We do have a wiki page where volunteers can record their information:

http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779

Anyone can create a wiki account and add their own information.

Note that this is a global volunteer list, so you might search for
marketing to find the marketing volunteers.  If we really wanted a
separate page with only the marketing volunteers we could do that as
well.

Regards,

-Rob


 With Warm Regards

 V.Kadal Amutham
 919444360480


 On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote:

 Salutations

 Quick profile:

  * started using StarOffice 4.x
  * have been using OO regularly then exclusively since
  * hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees
  * major in finance, minor in computers
  * Financial Manager for 8 years
  * IT Services Manager for 8 years
  * currently freelance
  * not a programmer
  * located in Toronto Canada [at least for now]
  * only fluent in English
  * experienced with not for profit organizations
  * open to suggestions where\how to jump in

 L
 --
 Larry Sadler 416.354.2952



Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer

2012-11-28 Thread Kadal Amutham
I opened the link
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779. But I
could not locate the place where I can enter my personal data. I tried
twice. But no success

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480


On 28 November 2012 19:37, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:
  Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number,
  country, native language, best time to call, and put in some
 spread-sheet,
  data base?
 

 We do have a wiki page where volunteers can record their information:

 http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779

 Anyone can create a wiki account and add their own information.

 Note that this is a global volunteer list, so you might search for
 marketing to find the marketing volunteers.  If we really wanted a
 separate page with only the marketing volunteers we could do that as
 well.

 Regards,

 -Rob


  With Warm Regards
 
  V.Kadal Amutham
  919444360480
 
 
  On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote:
 
  Salutations
 
  Quick profile:
 
   * started using StarOffice 4.x
   * have been using OO regularly then exclusively since
   * hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees
   * major in finance, minor in computers
   * Financial Manager for 8 years
   * IT Services Manager for 8 years
   * currently freelance
   * not a programmer
   * located in Toronto Canada [at least for now]
   * only fluent in English
   * experienced with not for profit organizations
   * open to suggestions where\how to jump in
 
  L
  --
  Larry Sadler 416.354.2952
 



Re: Introduction

2012-11-28 Thread Kadal Amutham
Microsoft, Google, intel can afford to have simple logo, since they have a
deep pocket, so deep, nobody can reach the bottom. But the case here is a
bit different. The logo shall be such that it shall get registered in the
minds of the people even  they see it few times.

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480


On 28 November 2012 19:39, dreamkota web design dreamk...@live.com wrote:


   The logo of OpenOffice looks too simple. Can you iprove the same?
 I have a few ideas for a redesigned logo that I am drawing up. When I am
 done, do you want .svg or .png?


Re: Introduction

2012-11-28 Thread Kadal Amutham
The logo at this link
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779 looks
better. .png file will be fine with me. I have gimp to open / modify

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480


On 28 November 2012 19:57, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:

 Microsoft, Google, intel can afford to have simple logo, since they have a
 deep pocket, so deep, nobody can reach the bottom. But the case here is a
 bit different. The logo shall be such that it shall get registered in the
 minds of the people even  they see it few times.

 With Warm Regards

 V.Kadal Amutham
 919444360480


 On 28 November 2012 19:39, dreamkota web design dreamk...@live.comwrote:


   The logo of OpenOffice looks too simple. Can you iprove the same?
 I have a few ideas for a redesigned logo that I am drawing up. When I am
 done, do you want .svg or .png?





Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer

2012-11-28 Thread Kadal Amutham
I tried to sign in to
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers.
But the funny looking image with text made fun out of me. I think the web
page does not like me and stopped vehemently entering your site. I will try
once again to morrow.

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480


On 28 November 2012 20:04, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:
  I opened the link
  http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779. But I
  could not locate the place where I can enter my personal data. I tried
  twice. But no success
 

 Oh, I need another cup of coffee  g

 Wrong link.  Sorry. I meant to paste this one:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers

 You should then see a sign up link in the upper right.

 -Rob

  With Warm Regards
 
  V.Kadal Amutham
  919444360480
 
 
  On 28 November 2012 19:37, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
  On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number,
   country, native language, best time to call, and put in some
  spread-sheet,
   data base?
  
 
  We do have a wiki page where volunteers can record their information:
 
  http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779
 
  Anyone can create a wiki account and add their own information.
 
  Note that this is a global volunteer list, so you might search for
  marketing to find the marketing volunteers.  If we really wanted a
  separate page with only the marketing volunteers we could do that as
  well.
 
  Regards,
 
  -Rob
 
 
   With Warm Regards
  
   V.Kadal Amutham
   919444360480
  
  
   On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote:
  
   Salutations
  
   Quick profile:
  
* started using StarOffice 4.x
* have been using OO regularly then exclusively since
* hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees
* major in finance, minor in computers
* Financial Manager for 8 years
* IT Services Manager for 8 years
* currently freelance
* not a programmer
* located in Toronto Canada [at least for now]
* only fluent in English
* experienced with not for profit organizations
* open to suggestions where\how to jump in
  
   L
   --
   Larry Sadler 416.354.2952
  
 



Brief Interview questions….

2012-11-28 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Olav, et al.,
Apologies for top post.

When I was the community manager for OpenOffice.org, in the first years I would 
conduct interviews of contributors—developers, localizers, et al. What counted 
was meaningful contribution to the project.

One reason was to broadcast the work done and the people doing it. The idea is 
that such recognition—not celebration—would give others insight into what is 
wanted, what is required, what can be done—and whom to contact.

Another idea was that this would become news, and be taken up by other 
services. This was before Facebook—aye, a long time ago—and before Twitter and 
when social media meant meeting the news press in a café or bar. :-)

But I want to promote OpenOffice work and use in Norway and everywhere else; 
and I want, also to promote the development of the ecosystem.

If you—and others are welcome to answer, too—I'd just post the answers to my 
blog. It's not by any means an official Apache blog and I have at the moment no 
intention of making it so. But it does get read by those interested in 
OpenOffice. You'd also be free to post whatever answers you give to your sites.

Here are some questions:

* What are you and your colleagues doing on Apache OpenOffice?

* What skills or resources do you need? Or want? 

* How can others join in—help? 

* Do you know who is using OpenOffice in your region? Norway is one of the more 
popular downloads, you know, and it was at one point in the last few years 
quite popular in public sector areas, like education (Skolinux, for instance).

* Do you know of companies or people supporting Apache OpenOffice on a 
commercial (not volunteer) basis? Is that wanted? I ask because I tend to 
believe that public sector organizations want commercially contracted support 
for free and open software, as this assuages bureaucratic concerns about 
liability.

* What events or conferences would be relevant to participate in to gain more 
developer interest, more users?

* And where would you suggest we go to attract more contributors?


Thanks
louis

PS my relevant blog for this: http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/

but it could also be posted elsewhere

OpenOffice new marketing volunteers: Next Steps

2012-11-28 Thread Rob Weir
Some quick few thoughts on what it is like to volunteer on at Apache project.

For some project functions -- like QA or support -- there is a
pre-defined workflow.  QA tests, writes up defect reports, tests
again.  That is their cycle.  A new QA volunteer can quickly fit into
this ongoing workflow.

For other functions, like development and marketing, there are very
few pre-defined tasks to do.  We're more self-directed.  We identify
what needs to be done, or what would be interesting or fun to do --
hopefully all three -- and then we do it.  Some of us propose new
things and take the lead on that task while others help out.  But
there is no marketing lead who defines tasks and assigns work items.
 There is no hierarchy.  Anyone can help.  Anyone can propose new
initiatives.

So if anyone is waiting for me to tell you the Big Plan and what to
do, you will be disappointed.   Or maybe not  You, even as a new
volunteer, have a voice equal to mine.

So here's what I am planning to do in the next few days.   I encourage
other more experienced project members to lend a hand.

1) I will send a series of marketing briefs to the list, describing
the current state of this segment of the market, our position within
in, a little of our history, what trends we've observed, etc.  For
those of you with a marketing background this will be valuable
information.

2) I encourage other project members to send a note introducing
themselves and what marketing-related initiatives you are either
already involved with or which you wish to start up.  For example,
let's have an update on the ongoing discussions about a logo contest
and the Apache OpenOffice 4.0 rebranding.

3) If any of these existing initiatives sound interesting to you and
you want to help, then speak up.

4) Or, if there is something that you want beyond the existing
initiatives then speak up as well.  Describe what you would like to
do, ask if anyone wants to help.   You can take the lead even as a
new volunteer.

My job (with help from other experienced project members) is to help
you understand how things work how you can get things done around
here.  I'm focused on recruitment right now.  Of course, I have my
only marketing-related initiatives as well that I'm interested in, but
I'll describe those later.

Regards,

-Rob


Re: OpenOffice new marketing volunteers: Next Steps

2012-11-28 Thread Kadal Amutham
Every one of us will have a list of contacts in accumulated in their in
boxes, office contact list. They can be contacted for popularizing AOO.
 Mr. Rob can tell us of anything already available. Then a decision can be
made if the same thing can be used to propagate AOO, or it needs some
improvement.

Regarding the logo, I have few questions. I have seen few variants in the
logos. One with two birds, another with 3 birds. Are you attaching any
meaning in number of birds, or it just happened? I think already somebody
is working on improving the logo. If some more  volunteers with the skill
set of graphic design, they also can be roped in.

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480


On 29 November 2012 01:56, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 Some quick few thoughts on what it is like to volunteer on at Apache
 project.

 For some project functions -- like QA or support -- there is a
 pre-defined workflow.  QA tests, writes up defect reports, tests
 again.  That is their cycle.  A new QA volunteer can quickly fit into
 this ongoing workflow.

 For other functions, like development and marketing, there are very
 few pre-defined tasks to do.  We're more self-directed.  We identify
 what needs to be done, or what would be interesting or fun to do --
 hopefully all three -- and then we do it.  Some of us propose new
 things and take the lead on that task while others help out.  But
 there is no marketing lead who defines tasks and assigns work items.
  There is no hierarchy.  Anyone can help.  Anyone can propose new
 initiatives.

 So if anyone is waiting for me to tell you the Big Plan and what to
 do, you will be disappointed.   Or maybe not  You, even as a new
 volunteer, have a voice equal to mine.

 So here's what I am planning to do in the next few days.   I encourage
 other more experienced project members to lend a hand.

 1) I will send a series of marketing briefs to the list, describing
 the current state of this segment of the market, our position within
 in, a little of our history, what trends we've observed, etc.  For
 those of you with a marketing background this will be valuable
 information.

 2) I encourage other project members to send a note introducing
 themselves and what marketing-related initiatives you are either
 already involved with or which you wish to start up.  For example,
 let's have an update on the ongoing discussions about a logo contest
 and the Apache OpenOffice 4.0 rebranding.

 3) If any of these existing initiatives sound interesting to you and
 you want to help, then speak up.

 4) Or, if there is something that you want beyond the existing
 initiatives then speak up as well.  Describe what you would like to
 do, ask if anyone wants to help.   You can take the lead even as a
 new volunteer.

 My job (with help from other experienced project members) is to help
 you understand how things work how you can get things done around
 here.  I'm focused on recruitment right now.  Of course, I have my
 only marketing-related initiatives as well that I'm interested in, but
 I'll describe those later.

 Regards,

 -Rob