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Salutations Introduction to Marketing module completed . L -- Larry Sadler 416.354.2952
Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number, country, native language, best time to call, and put in some spread-sheet, data base? This is a public list that can be viewed from the internet so is not a good idea to post private information unless you understand the risks. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote: Salutations Quick profile: * started using StarOffice 4.x * have been using OO regularly then exclusively since * hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees * major in finance, minor in computers * Financial Manager for 8 years * IT Services Manager for 8 years * currently freelance * not a programmer * located in Toronto Canada [at least for now] * only fluent in English * experienced with not for profit organizations * open to suggestions where\how to jump in L -- Larry Sadler 416.354.2952 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer
*This is a public list that can be viewed from the internet so is not a good idea to post private information unless you understand the risks.* But private information can be safely stored by the moderators. Technology has ways of doing this With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 28 November 2012 18:29, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number, country, native language, best time to call, and put in some spread-sheet, data base? This is a public list that can be viewed from the internet so is not a good idea to post private information unless you understand the risks. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote: Salutations Quick profile: * started using StarOffice 4.x * have been using OO regularly then exclusively since * hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees * major in finance, minor in computers * Financial Manager for 8 years * IT Services Manager for 8 years * currently freelance * not a programmer * located in Toronto Canada [at least for now] * only fluent in English * experienced with not for profit organizations * open to suggestions where\how to jump in L -- Larry Sadler 416.354.2952 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number, country, native language, best time to call, and put in some spread-sheet, data base? We do have a wiki page where volunteers can record their information: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779 Anyone can create a wiki account and add their own information. Note that this is a global volunteer list, so you might search for marketing to find the marketing volunteers. If we really wanted a separate page with only the marketing volunteers we could do that as well. Regards, -Rob With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote: Salutations Quick profile: * started using StarOffice 4.x * have been using OO regularly then exclusively since * hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees * major in finance, minor in computers * Financial Manager for 8 years * IT Services Manager for 8 years * currently freelance * not a programmer * located in Toronto Canada [at least for now] * only fluent in English * experienced with not for profit organizations * open to suggestions where\how to jump in L -- Larry Sadler 416.354.2952
Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer
I opened the link http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779. But I could not locate the place where I can enter my personal data. I tried twice. But no success With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 28 November 2012 19:37, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number, country, native language, best time to call, and put in some spread-sheet, data base? We do have a wiki page where volunteers can record their information: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779 Anyone can create a wiki account and add their own information. Note that this is a global volunteer list, so you might search for marketing to find the marketing volunteers. If we really wanted a separate page with only the marketing volunteers we could do that as well. Regards, -Rob With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote: Salutations Quick profile: * started using StarOffice 4.x * have been using OO regularly then exclusively since * hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees * major in finance, minor in computers * Financial Manager for 8 years * IT Services Manager for 8 years * currently freelance * not a programmer * located in Toronto Canada [at least for now] * only fluent in English * experienced with not for profit organizations * open to suggestions where\how to jump in L -- Larry Sadler 416.354.2952
Re: Introduction
Microsoft, Google, intel can afford to have simple logo, since they have a deep pocket, so deep, nobody can reach the bottom. But the case here is a bit different. The logo shall be such that it shall get registered in the minds of the people even they see it few times. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 28 November 2012 19:39, dreamkota web design dreamk...@live.com wrote: The logo of OpenOffice looks too simple. Can you iprove the same? I have a few ideas for a redesigned logo that I am drawing up. When I am done, do you want .svg or .png?
Re: Introduction
The logo at this link http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779 looks better. .png file will be fine with me. I have gimp to open / modify With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 28 November 2012 19:57, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft, Google, intel can afford to have simple logo, since they have a deep pocket, so deep, nobody can reach the bottom. But the case here is a bit different. The logo shall be such that it shall get registered in the minds of the people even they see it few times. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 28 November 2012 19:39, dreamkota web design dreamk...@live.comwrote: The logo of OpenOffice looks too simple. Can you iprove the same? I have a few ideas for a redesigned logo that I am drawing up. When I am done, do you want .svg or .png?
Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer
I tried to sign in to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers. But the funny looking image with text made fun out of me. I think the web page does not like me and stopped vehemently entering your site. I will try once again to morrow. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 28 November 2012 20:04, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: I opened the link http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779. But I could not locate the place where I can enter my personal data. I tried twice. But no success Oh, I need another cup of coffee g Wrong link. Sorry. I meant to paste this one: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers You should then see a sign up link in the upper right. -Rob With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 28 November 2012 19:37, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number, country, native language, best time to call, and put in some spread-sheet, data base? We do have a wiki page where volunteers can record their information: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107p=254779 Anyone can create a wiki account and add their own information. Note that this is a global volunteer list, so you might search for marketing to find the marketing volunteers. If we really wanted a separate page with only the marketing volunteers we could do that as well. Regards, -Rob With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote: Salutations Quick profile: * started using StarOffice 4.x * have been using OO regularly then exclusively since * hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees * major in finance, minor in computers * Financial Manager for 8 years * IT Services Manager for 8 years * currently freelance * not a programmer * located in Toronto Canada [at least for now] * only fluent in English * experienced with not for profit organizations * open to suggestions where\how to jump in L -- Larry Sadler 416.354.2952
Brief Interview questions….
Olav, et al., Apologies for top post. When I was the community manager for OpenOffice.org, in the first years I would conduct interviews of contributors—developers, localizers, et al. What counted was meaningful contribution to the project. One reason was to broadcast the work done and the people doing it. The idea is that such recognition—not celebration—would give others insight into what is wanted, what is required, what can be done—and whom to contact. Another idea was that this would become news, and be taken up by other services. This was before Facebook—aye, a long time ago—and before Twitter and when social media meant meeting the news press in a café or bar. :-) But I want to promote OpenOffice work and use in Norway and everywhere else; and I want, also to promote the development of the ecosystem. If you—and others are welcome to answer, too—I'd just post the answers to my blog. It's not by any means an official Apache blog and I have at the moment no intention of making it so. But it does get read by those interested in OpenOffice. You'd also be free to post whatever answers you give to your sites. Here are some questions: * What are you and your colleagues doing on Apache OpenOffice? * What skills or resources do you need? Or want? * How can others join in—help? * Do you know who is using OpenOffice in your region? Norway is one of the more popular downloads, you know, and it was at one point in the last few years quite popular in public sector areas, like education (Skolinux, for instance). * Do you know of companies or people supporting Apache OpenOffice on a commercial (not volunteer) basis? Is that wanted? I ask because I tend to believe that public sector organizations want commercially contracted support for free and open software, as this assuages bureaucratic concerns about liability. * What events or conferences would be relevant to participate in to gain more developer interest, more users? * And where would you suggest we go to attract more contributors? Thanks louis PS my relevant blog for this: http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/ but it could also be posted elsewhere
OpenOffice new marketing volunteers: Next Steps
Some quick few thoughts on what it is like to volunteer on at Apache project. For some project functions -- like QA or support -- there is a pre-defined workflow. QA tests, writes up defect reports, tests again. That is their cycle. A new QA volunteer can quickly fit into this ongoing workflow. For other functions, like development and marketing, there are very few pre-defined tasks to do. We're more self-directed. We identify what needs to be done, or what would be interesting or fun to do -- hopefully all three -- and then we do it. Some of us propose new things and take the lead on that task while others help out. But there is no marketing lead who defines tasks and assigns work items. There is no hierarchy. Anyone can help. Anyone can propose new initiatives. So if anyone is waiting for me to tell you the Big Plan and what to do, you will be disappointed. Or maybe not You, even as a new volunteer, have a voice equal to mine. So here's what I am planning to do in the next few days. I encourage other more experienced project members to lend a hand. 1) I will send a series of marketing briefs to the list, describing the current state of this segment of the market, our position within in, a little of our history, what trends we've observed, etc. For those of you with a marketing background this will be valuable information. 2) I encourage other project members to send a note introducing themselves and what marketing-related initiatives you are either already involved with or which you wish to start up. For example, let's have an update on the ongoing discussions about a logo contest and the Apache OpenOffice 4.0 rebranding. 3) If any of these existing initiatives sound interesting to you and you want to help, then speak up. 4) Or, if there is something that you want beyond the existing initiatives then speak up as well. Describe what you would like to do, ask if anyone wants to help. You can take the lead even as a new volunteer. My job (with help from other experienced project members) is to help you understand how things work how you can get things done around here. I'm focused on recruitment right now. Of course, I have my only marketing-related initiatives as well that I'm interested in, but I'll describe those later. Regards, -Rob
Re: OpenOffice new marketing volunteers: Next Steps
Every one of us will have a list of contacts in accumulated in their in boxes, office contact list. They can be contacted for popularizing AOO. Mr. Rob can tell us of anything already available. Then a decision can be made if the same thing can be used to propagate AOO, or it needs some improvement. Regarding the logo, I have few questions. I have seen few variants in the logos. One with two birds, another with 3 birds. Are you attaching any meaning in number of birds, or it just happened? I think already somebody is working on improving the logo. If some more volunteers with the skill set of graphic design, they also can be roped in. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 29 November 2012 01:56, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Some quick few thoughts on what it is like to volunteer on at Apache project. For some project functions -- like QA or support -- there is a pre-defined workflow. QA tests, writes up defect reports, tests again. That is their cycle. A new QA volunteer can quickly fit into this ongoing workflow. For other functions, like development and marketing, there are very few pre-defined tasks to do. We're more self-directed. We identify what needs to be done, or what would be interesting or fun to do -- hopefully all three -- and then we do it. Some of us propose new things and take the lead on that task while others help out. But there is no marketing lead who defines tasks and assigns work items. There is no hierarchy. Anyone can help. Anyone can propose new initiatives. So if anyone is waiting for me to tell you the Big Plan and what to do, you will be disappointed. Or maybe not You, even as a new volunteer, have a voice equal to mine. So here's what I am planning to do in the next few days. I encourage other more experienced project members to lend a hand. 1) I will send a series of marketing briefs to the list, describing the current state of this segment of the market, our position within in, a little of our history, what trends we've observed, etc. For those of you with a marketing background this will be valuable information. 2) I encourage other project members to send a note introducing themselves and what marketing-related initiatives you are either already involved with or which you wish to start up. For example, let's have an update on the ongoing discussions about a logo contest and the Apache OpenOffice 4.0 rebranding. 3) If any of these existing initiatives sound interesting to you and you want to help, then speak up. 4) Or, if there is something that you want beyond the existing initiatives then speak up as well. Describe what you would like to do, ask if anyone wants to help. You can take the lead even as a new volunteer. My job (with help from other experienced project members) is to help you understand how things work how you can get things done around here. I'm focused on recruitment right now. Of course, I have my only marketing-related initiatives as well that I'm interested in, but I'll describe those later. Regards, -Rob