Christmas theme for OO site

2012-12-19 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Most years around Xmass we theme the site with a Season graphic or design,
wonder if we would do somerhing for this year. Similar to the Google
Doodles that are made any other special date.

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Apache OpenOffice Contributor
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals.

2012-12-19 Thread Dave Fisher
Michael's effort is appreciated, but I have to agree that appropriating the 
windows four colored squares is not appropriate. Perhaps the association is too 
close in mind to notice subtle differences.

Regards ,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:35 PM, John Gilger  wrote:

> Looks nice but the MS Windows element in the background doesn't seem
> appropriate, IMHO.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
> 
>> Greetings to the AOO Team!
>> 
>> Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
>> with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
>> a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
>> Incubator.
>> 
>> Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
>> proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>> Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
>> community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version
>> of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
>> but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
>> that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress,
>> and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
>> 
>> Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
>> the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>> 
>> This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
>> be used for our webpage and some other materials.
>> 
>> 
>> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
>> 
>> There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
>> proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
>> screen that appears at the launch of the application.
>> 
>> 
>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
>> 
>> Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
>> 
>> --
>> Best,
>> Michael
>> 


Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

2012-12-19 Thread John Gilger
Looks nice but the MS Windows element in the background doesn't seem
appropriate, IMHO.

John


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:

> Greetings to the AOO Team!
>
> Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
> with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
> a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
> Incubator.
>
> Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
> proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
> community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version
> of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
> but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
> that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress,
> and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
>
> Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
> the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>
> This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
> be used for our webpage and some other materials.
>
>
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
>
> There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
> proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
> screen that appears at the launch of the application.
>
>
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
>
> Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
>
> --
> Best,
> Michael
>


[PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

2012-12-19 Thread Michael Acevedo
Greetings to the AOO Team!

Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
Incubator.

Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version
of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress,
and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.

Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.

This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
be used for our webpage and some other materials.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg

There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
screen that appears at the launch of the application.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png

Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!

-- 
Best,
Michael


Re: OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program

2012-12-19 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi

2012/12/19 Rob Weir :
> For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers'
> Choice Award for Best Single Office Program.  Congratulations,
> everyone!
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10

Very well :-)

disseminating ...


-- 
  Albino
www.albino.ws


OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program

2012-12-19 Thread Rob Weir
For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers'
Choice Award for Best Single Office Program.  Congratulations,
everyone!

http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10

Regards,

-Rob


Re: Website style disconnect

2012-12-19 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I also think typography goes a long way, having some great font on the
page could really do a facelift without disrupting the CSS that much.

On 12/19/12, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> Also been working with Jan to acomodate the mWiki theme, since the new
> mediawiki come with a diferent CSS than the old Monobook theme.
>
> However this should be intune with the current www.openoffice.org style.
>
> Lets work together to make AOO site look in tune.
>
> On 12/19/12, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> cc'ing the marketing list, since we have some recent volunteers who
>> said they had web design skills.
>>
>> We have two websites for the project:
>>
>> 1) A public-facing website at http://www.openoffice.org
>>
>> 2) A project-facing website at http://openoffice.apache.org
>>
>> In practice the distinction is not always clear.  There are many links
>> that cross from one website to another.  For example, a user starting
>> at http://www.openoffice.org/ and clicking the "I want to Participate
>> in OpenOffice" ends on on this project page here:
>> http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html.
>>
>> The websites have a similar look, but they differ in many small ways,
>> and the cumulative effect of these differences is discordant (IMHO).
>>
>> To draw out the difference, I made two identical test pages that
>> illustrate how the different style sheets treat common HTML
>> constructs, and differences in page headers/footers:
>>
>> See:
>>
>> http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html
>>
>> and
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html
>>
>> Note, for example, how our tagline differs between the pages.   Also,
>> the default font size on the openoffice.org is smaller than on
>> openoffice.apache.org.  IMHO this is too small for default text.
>>
>> There are other things that are common between the two sites, but
>> perhaps are non-optimal, like:
>>
>> 1) We're really not distinguishing blockquotes well.  We're just
>> indenting.  Maybe we can add a left-aligned vertical bar?
>>
>> 2) The yellow background of the  block is a bit extreme.  Maybe
>> something more subtle?
>>
>> 3) The hierarchy of headers only deals with H1 and H2.
>>
>>
>> I'm willing to help here, on integration of new stylesheets, getting
>> stuff checked in, etc.  But I have neither the taste nor the talent to
>> design a good looking set of styles.  Trust me, you do not want be to
>> do design work.  So I'm hoping that someone reading this can volunteer
>> to take the lead in proposing a good, modern, professional set of
>> styles that we can use across both websites.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> http://es.openoffice.org
>


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PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org


Re: Website style disconnect

2012-12-19 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Also been working with Jan to acomodate the mWiki theme, since the new
mediawiki come with a diferent CSS than the old Monobook theme.

However this should be intune with the current www.openoffice.org style.

Lets work together to make AOO site look in tune.

On 12/19/12, Rob Weir  wrote:
> cc'ing the marketing list, since we have some recent volunteers who
> said they had web design skills.
>
> We have two websites for the project:
>
> 1) A public-facing website at http://www.openoffice.org
>
> 2) A project-facing website at http://openoffice.apache.org
>
> In practice the distinction is not always clear.  There are many links
> that cross from one website to another.  For example, a user starting
> at http://www.openoffice.org/ and clicking the "I want to Participate
> in OpenOffice" ends on on this project page here:
> http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html.
>
> The websites have a similar look, but they differ in many small ways,
> and the cumulative effect of these differences is discordant (IMHO).
>
> To draw out the difference, I made two identical test pages that
> illustrate how the different style sheets treat common HTML
> constructs, and differences in page headers/footers:
>
> See:
>
> http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html
>
> and
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html
>
> Note, for example, how our tagline differs between the pages.   Also,
> the default font size on the openoffice.org is smaller than on
> openoffice.apache.org.  IMHO this is too small for default text.
>
> There are other things that are common between the two sites, but
> perhaps are non-optimal, like:
>
> 1) We're really not distinguishing blockquotes well.  We're just
> indenting.  Maybe we can add a left-aligned vertical bar?
>
> 2) The yellow background of the  block is a bit extreme.  Maybe
> something more subtle?
>
> 3) The hierarchy of headers only deals with H1 and H2.
>
>
> I'm willing to help here, on integration of new stylesheets, getting
> stuff checked in, etc.  But I have neither the taste nor the talent to
> design a good looking set of styles.  Trust me, you do not want be to
> do design work.  So I'm hoping that someone reading this can volunteer
> to take the lead in proposing a good, modern, professional set of
> styles that we can use across both websites.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Rob
>


-- 
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org


Website style disconnect

2012-12-19 Thread Rob Weir
cc'ing the marketing list, since we have some recent volunteers who
said they had web design skills.

We have two websites for the project:

1) A public-facing website at http://www.openoffice.org

2) A project-facing website at http://openoffice.apache.org

In practice the distinction is not always clear.  There are many links
that cross from one website to another.  For example, a user starting
at http://www.openoffice.org/ and clicking the "I want to Participate
in OpenOffice" ends on on this project page here:
http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html.

The websites have a similar look, but they differ in many small ways,
and the cumulative effect of these differences is discordant (IMHO).

To draw out the difference, I made two identical test pages that
illustrate how the different style sheets treat common HTML
constructs, and differences in page headers/footers:

See:

http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html

and

http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html

Note, for example, how our tagline differs between the pages.   Also,
the default font size on the openoffice.org is smaller than on
openoffice.apache.org.  IMHO this is too small for default text.

There are other things that are common between the two sites, but
perhaps are non-optimal, like:

1) We're really not distinguishing blockquotes well.  We're just
indenting.  Maybe we can add a left-aligned vertical bar?

2) The yellow background of the  block is a bit extreme.  Maybe
something more subtle?

3) The hierarchy of headers only deals with H1 and H2.


I'm willing to help here, on integration of new stylesheets, getting
stuff checked in, etc.  But I have neither the taste nor the talent to
design a good looking set of styles.  Trust me, you do not want be to
do design work.  So I'm hoping that someone reading this can volunteer
to take the lead in proposing a good, modern, professional set of
styles that we can use across both websites.

Thanks!

-Rob


Re: [Iteration 1] Social Media Integration on OO.org Site

2012-12-19 Thread Samer Mansour
Ok I had the impression that it had to all be done before we start the
experiment to give them a good benchmark.
I have 4 done as of last night, I'm almost done a more elegant 5th one. The
separate section idea, but all the existing backgrounds have arrows
suggesting "download" or "get". I created its own "share" background
http://postimage.org/image/9brst32ex/ which we can clean up more if we
choose to go with it. I changed the Hue and replaced the images with the
vector art of Share I created in Inkscape.

I have some errands after work, I might be able to churn out a few more
designs.  I will also name them correctly before handing them off to you.
I just have to figure out paths and changes into a document (or here), so
that its clear what is to be changed/deployed and in what path.


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Samer Mansour 
> wrote:
> > Oh, I'm sooo excited. I can help with coding the different pages.  We
> could
> > do the like and share experiments separately so they are not affecting
> each
> > others results.
> >
> > Lets start with a sharing experiment.
> >
> > We could make the labels "test1-footer" "test2-header" "test3-searchbar"
> as
> > opposed to "facebook", "google", "twitter". We don't care which network
> > they pick, its the placement/wording/style whether they see/convenient to
> > click it.  The metric would sum the three buttons for each test, under
> the
> > same label.
> >
> > We can all make friendly bets, like picking which horse will win a race.
> > Once we collectively come up with 9, we'll start a separate thread where
> > people can give their prediction.
> >
> > In the spirit of JFDI, I will make the variations you suggested Rob right
> > now.  I will wait until Tuesday Night for anyone else variation
> suggestion
> > on this thread.
> >
>
> OK.  I've made some changes to the main website to accommodate the
> experiment.  The issues was that the website logic would automatically
> try to apply the site template to our test pages, wiping them out.
> With my change any page that ends in "-passthru.html" will be
> unprocessed by the site template and will be displayed as-is.  So
> we'll need to name our test bases something like
> "social-variation1-passthru.html", etc.
>
> Let me know when you have some variations ready to test and I can get
> them provisioned onto the website.
>
> Also, we should avoid putting the actual test file names and links
> onto the mailing list.  That would encourage list subscribers to load
> the pages and since our behavior differs from the random visitor's
> behavior this can distort the experiment,
>
> -Rob
>
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Samer Mansour 
> wrote:
> >> > 1. Progress on "Download Share" - Smaller images and text,
> anti-aliased
> >> > using inkscape.
> >> > http://www.winsor.ca/samer/aootest2.htm
> >> >
> >> > 2. Progress made on possible template placements for "Follow
> OpenOffice"
> >> > http://www.winsor.ca/samer/aootest3.htm - Left Nav Links & Header
> Links
> >> > http://www.winsor.ca/samer/aootest4.htm - Title Nav Links & Footer
> Links
> >> >
> >> > In 2. should we eliminate some placements? Or should we experiment
> all 4
> >> in
> >> > separate files?
> >> >
> >>
> >> As I understand it each Content Experiment needs to test one thing,
> >> have one goal that we measure.  For example, we could measure % of
> >> visits that generate a page share via a social network.
> >>
> >> So it looks like we want to have at least two different content
> >> experiments:
> >>
> >> 1) On the download page, to test sharing.
> >>
> >> 2) On another typical page, to test the follow/like buttons.
> >>
> >> Would it be worth starting with the first experiment, and then based
> >> on what we learn there, then do the second?
> >>
> >> Within each experiment, we can have the original page (the unmodified
> >> "control" that we are comparing to) and up to 9 different variations.
> >> We add some special Javascript to the original page and Google then
> >> randomly redirects users to one of the variations.  Google tracks the
> >> % of users meet some "goal" (typically a specific page view or click),
> >>  When Google determines that one of the variations is best to a
> >> statistically significant 95% confidence threshold, then it ends the
> >> experiment and tells us the winner.
> >>
> >> So for each experiment we need some variations and a way of tracking the
> >> goal.
> >>
> >> For the variations, what could we do on the download page?  Assume for
> >> sake of the experiment we're testing just the share links. (We can
> >> test the follow/like links separately and eventually combine them in
> >> the final solution)
> >>
> >> Just brainstorming...
> >>
> >> 1) What you have here:  http://www.winsor.ca/samer/aootest2.htm
> >>
> >> 2) Variation on #1, but instead of three icons with three text
> >> captions, have a sin

Re: Google+ Community

2012-12-19 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi

Sent via Android.
Desculpe pela brevidade.
Albino

Em 17/12/2012 21:32, "Albino Biasutti Neto"  escreveu:
> Fix links.

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Re: [Iteration 1] Social Media Integration on OO.org Site

2012-12-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
> Oh, I'm sooo excited. I can help with coding the different pages.  We could
> do the like and share experiments separately so they are not affecting each
> others results.
>
> Lets start with a sharing experiment.
>
> We could make the labels "test1-footer" "test2-header" "test3-searchbar" as
> opposed to "facebook", "google", "twitter". We don't care which network
> they pick, its the placement/wording/style whether they see/convenient to
> click it.  The metric would sum the three buttons for each test, under the
> same label.
>
> We can all make friendly bets, like picking which horse will win a race.
> Once we collectively come up with 9, we'll start a separate thread where
> people can give their prediction.
>
> In the spirit of JFDI, I will make the variations you suggested Rob right
> now.  I will wait until Tuesday Night for anyone else variation suggestion
> on this thread.
>

OK.  I've made some changes to the main website to accommodate the
experiment.  The issues was that the website logic would automatically
try to apply the site template to our test pages, wiping them out.
With my change any page that ends in "-passthru.html" will be
unprocessed by the site template and will be displayed as-is.  So
we'll need to name our test bases something like
"social-variation1-passthru.html", etc.

Let me know when you have some variations ready to test and I can get
them provisioned onto the website.

Also, we should avoid putting the actual test file names and links
onto the mailing list.  That would encourage list subscribers to load
the pages and since our behavior differs from the random visitor's
behavior this can distort the experiment,

-Rob

>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
>> > 1. Progress on "Download Share" - Smaller images and text, anti-aliased
>> > using inkscape.
>> > http://www.winsor.ca/samer/aootest2.htm
>> >
>> > 2. Progress made on possible template placements for "Follow OpenOffice"
>> > http://www.winsor.ca/samer/aootest3.htm - Left Nav Links & Header Links
>> > http://www.winsor.ca/samer/aootest4.htm - Title Nav Links & Footer Links
>> >
>> > In 2. should we eliminate some placements? Or should we experiment all 4
>> in
>> > separate files?
>> >
>>
>> As I understand it each Content Experiment needs to test one thing,
>> have one goal that we measure.  For example, we could measure % of
>> visits that generate a page share via a social network.
>>
>> So it looks like we want to have at least two different content
>> experiments:
>>
>> 1) On the download page, to test sharing.
>>
>> 2) On another typical page, to test the follow/like buttons.
>>
>> Would it be worth starting with the first experiment, and then based
>> on what we learn there, then do the second?
>>
>> Within each experiment, we can have the original page (the unmodified
>> "control" that we are comparing to) and up to 9 different variations.
>> We add some special Javascript to the original page and Google then
>> randomly redirects users to one of the variations.  Google tracks the
>> % of users meet some "goal" (typically a specific page view or click),
>>  When Google determines that one of the variations is best to a
>> statistically significant 95% confidence threshold, then it ends the
>> experiment and tells us the winner.
>>
>> So for each experiment we need some variations and a way of tracking the
>> goal.
>>
>> For the variations, what could we do on the download page?  Assume for
>> sake of the experiment we're testing just the share links. (We can
>> test the follow/like links separately and eventually combine them in
>> the final solution)
>>
>> Just brainstorming...
>>
>> 1) What you have here:  http://www.winsor.ca/samer/aootest2.htm
>>
>> 2) Variation on #1, but instead of three icons with three text
>> captions, have a single text caption, "Please tell your friends about
>> the free Apache OpenOffice" (or similar) followed by three uncaptioned
>> icons.
>>
>> 3) Variation on #2 but with different text.
>>
>> 4) Variation on #2 but with different text.
>>
>> 5) A bigger bolder placement, a full block, same size and style as the
>> "Get Apache OpenOffice Extensions" block.  Maybe text saying "Tell
>> your friends about the free Apache OpenOffice!" and big FB, Twitter
>> and Google+ icons.
>>
>> 6) Variation on #2 with different text:  "Please tell your friends
>> about Apache OpenOffice"
>>
>> 7) Variation on #2 with different text: "Thank you for telling your
>> friends about Apache OpenOffice"
>>
>> 8) Variation on #2 with different text: "Help spread the word about
>> Apache OpenOffice"
>>
>> 9) ???
>>
>> We have several volunteers with copy writing experience, so it would
>> be good to have suggestions for alternatives to test.  We can have a
>> little contest.  Who can come up with the icon placement and wording
>> that will score the highest in a live test