Re: Website style disconnect

2012-12-20 Thread Kadal Amutham 
Good comment Mr. Samer Mansour. Let us wait comment from others

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480


On 21 December 2012 09:56, Samer Mansour  wrote:

> I would think this will distract us from our simpler mission, which is to
> promote open office. It can also be a bit of a double edge sword in the
> sense that if we are promoting another project and that project isn't
> received well, it could tarnish our brand or imply something about us which
> is not true.
>
> On Thursday, December 20, 2012, Kadal Amutham wrote:
>
> > Just a loud thinking. Why promote only openoffice? Why not other open
> > source software like Ubuntu? I try this technique to switch completely
> from
> > licence world to licence free word. ( Still,it is hard to find
> acceptance.
> > As already mentioned, there is no option of telling "Buy One  Get Two"
> >
> > With Warm Regards
> >
> > V.Kadal Amutham
> > 919444360480
> >
> >
> > On 19 December 2012 22:50, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> >
> > > I also think typography goes a long way, having some great font on the
> > > page could really do a facelift without disrupting the CSS that much.
> > >
> > > On 12/19/12, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> > > > Also been working with Jan to acomodate the mWiki theme, since the
> new
> > > > mediawiki come with a diferent CSS than the old Monobook theme.
> > > >
> > > > However this should be intune with the current
> www.openoffice.orgstyle.
> > > >
> > > > Lets work together to make AOO site look in tune.
> > > >
> > > > On 12/19/12, Rob Weir  wrote:
> > > >> cc'ing the marketing list, since we have some recent volunteers who
> > > >> said they had web design skills.
> > > >>
> > > >> We have two websites for the project:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1) A public-facing website at http://www.openoffice.org
> > > >>
> > > >> 2) A project-facing website at http://openoffice.apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >> In practice the distinction is not always clear.  There are many
> links
> > > >> that cross from one website to another.  For example, a user
> starting
> > > >> at http://www.openoffice.org/ and clicking the "I want to
> Participate
> > > >> in OpenOffice" ends on on this project page here:
> > > >> http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html.
> > > >>
> > > >> The websites have a similar look, but they differ in many small
> ways,
> > > >> and the cumulative effect of these differences is discordant (IMHO).
> > > >>
> > > >> To draw out the difference, I made two identical test pages that
> > > >> illustrate how the different style sheets treat common HTML
> > > >> constructs, and differences in page headers/footers:
> > > >>
> > > >> See:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html
> > > >>
> > > >> and
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html
> > > >>
> > > >> Note, for example, how our tagline differs between the pages.
> Also,
> > > >> the default font size on the openoffice.org is smaller than on
> > > >> openoffice.apache.org.  IMHO this is too small for default text.
> > > >>
> > > >> There are other things that are common between the two sites, but
> > > >> perhaps are non-optimal, like:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1) We're really not distinguishing blockquotes well.  We're just
> > > >> indenting.  Maybe we can add a left-aligned vertical bar?
> > > >>
> > > >> 2) The yellow background of the  block is a bit extreme.  Maybe
> > > >> something more subtle?
> > > >>
> > > >> 3) The hierarchy of headers only deals with H1 and H2.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm willing to help here, on integration of new stylesheets, getting
> > > >> stuff checked in, etc.  But I have neither the taste nor the talent
> to
> > > >> design a good looking set of styles.  Trust me, you do not want be
> to
> > > >> do design work.  So I'm hoping that someone reading this can
> volunteer
> > > >> to take the lead in proposing a good, modern, professional set of
> > > >> styles that we can use across both websites.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >> -Rob
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > > PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> > > > http://es.openoffice.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> > > 
>

Re: Website style disconnect

2012-12-20 Thread Samer Mansour 
I would think this will distract us from our simpler mission, which is to
promote open office. It can also be a bit of a double edge sword in the
sense that if we are promoting another project and that project isn't
received well, it could tarnish our brand or imply something about us which
is not true.

On Thursday, December 20, 2012, Kadal Amutham wrote:

> Just a loud thinking. Why promote only openoffice? Why not other open
> source software like Ubuntu? I try this technique to switch completely from
> licence world to licence free word. ( Still,it is hard to find acceptance.
> As already mentioned, there is no option of telling "Buy One  Get Two"
>
> With Warm Regards
>
> V.Kadal Amutham
> 919444360480
>
>
> On 19 December 2012 22:50, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>
> > I also think typography goes a long way, having some great font on the
> > page could really do a facelift without disrupting the CSS that much.
> >
> > On 12/19/12, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> > > Also been working with Jan to acomodate the mWiki theme, since the new
> > > mediawiki come with a diferent CSS than the old Monobook theme.
> > >
> > > However this should be intune with the current www.openoffice.orgstyle.
> > >
> > > Lets work together to make AOO site look in tune.
> > >
> > > On 12/19/12, Rob Weir  wrote:
> > >> cc'ing the marketing list, since we have some recent volunteers who
> > >> said they had web design skills.
> > >>
> > >> We have two websites for the project:
> > >>
> > >> 1) A public-facing website at http://www.openoffice.org
> > >>
> > >> 2) A project-facing website at http://openoffice.apache.org
> > >>
> > >> In practice the distinction is not always clear.  There are many links
> > >> that cross from one website to another.  For example, a user starting
> > >> at http://www.openoffice.org/ and clicking the "I want to Participate
> > >> in OpenOffice" ends on on this project page here:
> > >> http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html.
> > >>
> > >> The websites have a similar look, but they differ in many small ways,
> > >> and the cumulative effect of these differences is discordant (IMHO).
> > >>
> > >> To draw out the difference, I made two identical test pages that
> > >> illustrate how the different style sheets treat common HTML
> > >> constructs, and differences in page headers/footers:
> > >>
> > >> See:
> > >>
> > >> http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >> http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html
> > >>
> > >> Note, for example, how our tagline differs between the pages.   Also,
> > >> the default font size on the openoffice.org is smaller than on
> > >> openoffice.apache.org.  IMHO this is too small for default text.
> > >>
> > >> There are other things that are common between the two sites, but
> > >> perhaps are non-optimal, like:
> > >>
> > >> 1) We're really not distinguishing blockquotes well.  We're just
> > >> indenting.  Maybe we can add a left-aligned vertical bar?
> > >>
> > >> 2) The yellow background of the  block is a bit extreme.  Maybe
> > >> something more subtle?
> > >>
> > >> 3) The hierarchy of headers only deals with H1 and H2.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I'm willing to help here, on integration of new stylesheets, getting
> > >> stuff checked in, etc.  But I have neither the taste nor the talent to
> > >> design a good looking set of styles.  Trust me, you do not want be to
> > >> do design work.  So I'm hoping that someone reading this can volunteer
> > >> to take the lead in proposing a good, modern, professional set of
> > >> styles that we can use across both websites.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> -Rob
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> > > http://es.openoffice.org
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> >

Re: OpenSource --- Marketing Cover Art

2012-12-20 Thread Kadal Amutham 
Dear Mr. Dale Turner,

I am another volunteer like you. As you may aware, a new logo is being
planned, and a redesign of the landing page of OpenSource.org is being
planned.  To start with you can come out with good logo. I have attached a
logo just to kindle your creativity. Can you give web link to " well
established samples of good design and art work"?

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480


On 21 December 2012 02:55, blu020  wrote:

> Good afternoon,
>
> OpenSource has many well established samples of good design and art work.
>
> I would like to be considered for contributing to the cause of design, art
> work, and illustration/painting options.|
>
> regards,
>
> - Dale Turner
<>

Re: Christmas theme for OO site

2012-12-20 Thread Alexandro Colorado 
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>
>> Most years around Xmass we theme the site with a Season graphic or design,
>> wonder if we would do somerhing for this year.
>>
>
> Why not? Feel free to propose enhancements. We have three suitable DIVs in
> the HTML code, "bannerleft", "bannerright" and "bannercenter" where a small
> decoration could be placed. This would then be automatically applied to all
> pages.
>
> When you have a mockup, please send it to the main mailing list (ooo-dev)
> too, since it will impact the whole website and everybody should be aware
> of it.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

I remeber art had already some seasoned logos.

Also there are some ideas from the firefox people
http://www.accessfirefox.org/Mozilla_Holiday_Graphics.php

Could easily be adapted to OO sphere logo.

This is the old logo I had with the Xmass add-ons.
http://imagebin.org/240155

-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: Christmas theme for OO site

2012-12-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

Alexandro Colorado wrote:

Most years around Xmass we theme the site with a Season graphic or design,
wonder if we would do somerhing for this year.


Why not? Feel free to propose enhancements. We have three suitable DIVs 
in the HTML code, "bannerleft", "bannerright" and "bannercenter" where a 
small decoration could be placed. This would then be automatically 
applied to all pages.


When you have a mockup, please send it to the main mailing list 
(ooo-dev) too, since it will impact the whole website and everybody 
should be aware of it.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Website style disconnect

2012-12-20 Thread Kadal Amutham 
Just a loud thinking. Why promote only openoffice? Why not other open
source software like Ubuntu? I try this technique to switch completely from
licence world to licence free word. ( Still,it is hard to find acceptance.
As already mentioned, there is no option of telling "Buy One  Get Two"

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480


On 19 December 2012 22:50, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

> I also think typography goes a long way, having some great font on the
> page could really do a facelift without disrupting the CSS that much.
>
> On 12/19/12, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> > Also been working with Jan to acomodate the mWiki theme, since the new
> > mediawiki come with a diferent CSS than the old Monobook theme.
> >
> > However this should be intune with the current www.openoffice.org style.
> >
> > Lets work together to make AOO site look in tune.
> >
> > On 12/19/12, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >> cc'ing the marketing list, since we have some recent volunteers who
> >> said they had web design skills.
> >>
> >> We have two websites for the project:
> >>
> >> 1) A public-facing website at http://www.openoffice.org
> >>
> >> 2) A project-facing website at http://openoffice.apache.org
> >>
> >> In practice the distinction is not always clear.  There are many links
> >> that cross from one website to another.  For example, a user starting
> >> at http://www.openoffice.org/ and clicking the "I want to Participate
> >> in OpenOffice" ends on on this project page here:
> >> http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html.
> >>
> >> The websites have a similar look, but they differ in many small ways,
> >> and the cumulative effect of these differences is discordant (IMHO).
> >>
> >> To draw out the difference, I made two identical test pages that
> >> illustrate how the different style sheets treat common HTML
> >> constructs, and differences in page headers/footers:
> >>
> >> See:
> >>
> >> http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html
> >>
> >> Note, for example, how our tagline differs between the pages.   Also,
> >> the default font size on the openoffice.org is smaller than on
> >> openoffice.apache.org.  IMHO this is too small for default text.
> >>
> >> There are other things that are common between the two sites, but
> >> perhaps are non-optimal, like:
> >>
> >> 1) We're really not distinguishing blockquotes well.  We're just
> >> indenting.  Maybe we can add a left-aligned vertical bar?
> >>
> >> 2) The yellow background of the  block is a bit extreme.  Maybe
> >> something more subtle?
> >>
> >> 3) The hierarchy of headers only deals with H1 and H2.
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm willing to help here, on integration of new stylesheets, getting
> >> stuff checked in, etc.  But I have neither the taste nor the talent to
> >> design a good looking set of styles.  Trust me, you do not want be to
> >> do design work.  So I'm hoping that someone reading this can volunteer
> >> to take the lead in proposing a good, modern, professional set of
> >> styles that we can use across both websites.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> > http://es.openoffice.org
> >
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> http://es.openoffice.org
>

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals.

2012-12-20 Thread Paul D'Arcy 
It's a fine logo, but I would have to agree with the other comments. I do
like the idea, however.

Perhaps a shape other than a square could be used? Within the globe, there
are four wings. They could possibly be altered to represent the four
corners of the office suite?

Kind regards,

Paul D'Arcy
On 20 Dec 2012 06:40, "Dave Fisher"  wrote:
>
> Michael's effort is appreciated, but I have to agree that appropriating
the windows four colored squares is not appropriate. Perhaps the
association is too close in mind to notice subtle differences.
>
> Regards ,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:35 PM, John Gilger  wrote:
>
> > Looks nice but the MS Windows element in the background doesn't seem
> > appropriate, IMHO.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Michael Acevedo 
wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings to the AOO Team!
> >>
> >> Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in
touch
> >> with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
> >> a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
> >> Incubator.
> >>
> >> Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a
logo
> >> proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> >> Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice
Google+
> >> community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second
version
> >> of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice
orb,
> >> but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
> >> that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc,
Impress,
> >> and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
> >>
> >> Without further introductions, below I present my official submission
for
> >> the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> >>
> >> This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that
would
> >> be used for our webpage and some other materials.
> >>
> >>
> >>
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
> >>
> >> There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes
the
> >> proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
> >> screen that appears at the launch of the application.
> >>
> >>
> >>
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
> >>
> >> Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >> Michael
> >>