[GSoC] Google Summer of Code Hangout on Air right now

2013-04-11 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Hangout and youtube stream going on right now.
http://www.youtube.com/user/eduatgoogle?v=RX35hGMKKnw

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The hangout is now live at:
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Carol Smith  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This is just a friendly notification that we will be having a GSoC Hangout
> on Air tomorrow at 20:00 UTC. Here is the link for the Google+ event:
>
> https://plus.google.com/events/cpooa4srhdkp7o6ttsu88tcuhl4
>
> We hope you'll attend if you're able! We will be discussing how the
> program works and when to sign up as a student. We will also be having Q&A
> for those who'd like their questions answered on-air.
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> Cheers,
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Re: Will you take the AOO Community Survey?

2013-04-11 Thread Albino B Neto
2013/4/11 Rob Weir :
> http://www.openofficesurvey.org//index.php?sid=92484&lang=en

It's a good tools.

Albino

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Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-04-11 Thread Robin Fowler
Just to clarify my point, I agree that any logo should be designed with print 
in my mind, if it is to be used for print. The logo must be at least available 
as a vector and designed in CMYK.

But regarding the actual choice of logo, the priority should not be to look for 
the logo that works best for print, because that is hardly relevant. They 
should all work well for print.

If we do have a poll, would it be best to let all users vote or just active 
volunteers?

I must admit I can't imagine many users being confused by a new logo, but maybe 
others can judge that better.

Robin

On 11 Apr 2013, at 18:11, Ariel Constenla-Haile  wrote:

> Hi Milos,
> 
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Milosh Vujnovic wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> just a quick comment and clarification regarding printing and logos.
>> Print-friendly version (vector, CMYK) is crucial to be prepared
>> during logo design process. This includes color and black&white
>> version (on light and dark background).
>> 
>> I must disagree with the comments on that printing is rarely used
>> anymore - few examples include billboards, fair stands, business
>> cards, letterheads and other stationery, and so on.
> 
> But OpenOffice is a desktop application. For me, this means the main
> focus should be in a logo that looks good everywhere where it is mainly
> used, in the user's desktop (even in the window title bar) and the
> website (even in the website favicon). Thus, IMHO, printing has the
> lowest priority.
> 
> 
> Regards
> -- 
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-04-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
wrote:

> Hi Milos,
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Milosh Vujnovic wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > just a quick comment and clarification regarding printing and logos.
> > Print-friendly version (vector, CMYK) is crucial to be prepared
> > during logo design process. This includes color and black&white
> > version (on light and dark background).
> >
> > I must disagree with the comments on that printing is rarely used
> > anymore - few examples include billboards, fair stands, business
> > cards, letterheads and other stationery, and so on.
>
> But OpenOffice is a desktop application. For me, this means the main
> focus should be in a logo that looks good everywhere where it is mainly
> used, in the user's desktop (even in the window title bar) and the
> website (even in the website favicon). Thus, IMHO, printing has the
> lowest priority.
>
>

It should be possible to make something that works well in print as well as
digital form.  There is no reason to prioritize things if the goal is to
support both.  At the very least we know that we will need banners at
conferences, for booths, etc.  We also know that there are parts of the
ecosystem that distribute CDs and they want something that can work for
cover art.

-Rob


>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>


Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-04-11 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Milos,

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Milosh Vujnovic wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> just a quick comment and clarification regarding printing and logos.
> Print-friendly version (vector, CMYK) is crucial to be prepared
> during logo design process. This includes color and black&white
> version (on light and dark background).
> 
> I must disagree with the comments on that printing is rarely used
> anymore - few examples include billboards, fair stands, business
> cards, letterheads and other stationery, and so on.

But OpenOffice is a desktop application. For me, this means the main
focus should be in a logo that looks good everywhere where it is mainly
used, in the user's desktop (even in the window title bar) and the
website (even in the website favicon). Thus, IMHO, printing has the
lowest priority.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-04-11 Thread Milosh Vujnovic

Hi guys,

just a quick comment and clarification regarding printing and logos.
Print-friendly version (vector, CMYK) is crucial to be prepared during 
logo design process. This includes color and black&white version (on 
light and dark background).


I must disagree with the comments on that printing is rarely used 
anymore - few examples include billboards, fair stands, business cards, 
letterheads and other stationery, and so on.
I'm not sure what is the conversation about "flattened" as that may mean 
perspective, color or position in design terms, so I won't get into that 
- just wanted to explain that print is crucial part of the logo design :)


Best,
Milos


On 4/11/2013 6:25 PM, janI wrote:

On Apr 11, 2013 10:01 AM, "Andrea Pescetti"  wrote:

On 08/04/2013 Robin Fowler wrote:

I think it's important to get the
priorities right here. In my opinion the priority is to have a
modern, good-looking and recognisable logo that the community has
chosen to be representative of their product


I agree. And I would add: the project communication, in terms of presence

at events and press coverage, is not yet strong enough to be able to switch
to a totally new logo without leaving many users confused on whether they
installed the real OpenOffice or not. This is my main argument for
preferring a refresh to a complete restart.
+1 this is a very important point, we should in no way confuse our users
!!! openoffice it THE original package, lets keep it that way !

Now, I must say that the flattened orb does not seem more modern or nicer
to me, but probably I'm biased because I've always seen the flattened orb
as the "surrogate" to be used in low-quality prints...
 From a personal perspective I agree with the statement, todays printer can
handle not flattened images, and who prints nowadays (save the rainforest,
buy a tablet) ?

rgds
Jan I

Regards,
   Andrea.


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Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-04-11 Thread janI
On Apr 11, 2013 10:01 AM, "Andrea Pescetti"  wrote:
>
> On 08/04/2013 Robin Fowler wrote:
>>
>> I think it's important to get the
>> priorities right here. In my opinion the priority is to have a
>> modern, good-looking and recognisable logo that the community has
>> chosen to be representative of their product
>
>
> I agree. And I would add: the project communication, in terms of presence
at events and press coverage, is not yet strong enough to be able to switch
to a totally new logo without leaving many users confused on whether they
installed the real OpenOffice or not. This is my main argument for
preferring a refresh to a complete restart.
>
+1 this is a very important point, we should in no way confuse our users
!!! openoffice it THE original package, lets keep it that way !

Now, I must say that the flattened orb does not seem more modern or nicer
to me, but probably I'm biased because I've always seen the flattened orb
as the "surrogate" to be used in low-quality prints...
>From a personal perspective I agree with the statement, todays printer can
handle not flattened images, and who prints nowadays (save the rainforest,
buy a tablet) ?

rgds
Jan I
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-04-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 08/04/2013 Robin Fowler wrote:

I think it's important to get the
priorities right here. In my opinion the priority is to have a
modern, good-looking and recognisable logo that the community has
chosen to be representative of their product


I agree. And I would add: the project communication, in terms of 
presence at events and press coverage, is not yet strong enough to be 
able to switch to a totally new logo without leaving many users confused 
on whether they installed the real OpenOffice or not. This is my main 
argument for preferring a refresh to a complete restart.


Now, I must say that the flattened orb does not seem more modern or 
nicer to me, but probably I'm biased because I've always seen the 
flattened orb as the "surrogate" to be used in low-quality prints...


Regards,
  Andrea.

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