Re: AOO 4.0 Logo: We're not done yet!

2013-06-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 In case you are not following the discussion on the dev list, Juergen,
 the 4.0 Release Manager, has proposed an endgame schedule for the AOO
 4.0 release:

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201306.mbox/%3C51C16876.402%40gmail.com%3E

 The date relevant to the logo is Monday July 1th.  That is the
 deadline for getting the logo changes integrated into Subversion for
 the OpenOffice product.

 Changes on the website and social networking don't have a hard
 deadline and can come later, perhaps synched up with the actual
 release of AOO 4.0, which is planned for later in July.

 So what needs to be done?

 1) Kevin said he wanted to make some fine tuning of the text kerning
 in the logo.



Kevin sent me an updated SVG file, but I'm having problems opening it
in Inkscape or Illustrator.  But I have posted the PNG of the result
to the wiki:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+3+Logo+Refinement

Once we have a working SVG file we can move ahead.


 2) Alexandro said something about adjusting the colors.  But I'm not
 certain I understood that correctly.


I've heard nothing from Alexandro on this.  I think we need to move on.


 3) We need to update the graphics in the product.  And there are a lot
 of them, around 25 of them, which I've laboriously transcribed onto
 the wiki:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Product+Logo+Use

 Most of them will be simple.  It is just a matter of replacing one
 logo with another, and preserving the right formats, dimensions, color
 depths, etc.


There is a column in the wiki to indicate who owns a given image.
I'd recommend that we use this to avoid duplicating work.

Of course, if someone wants to do all of the conversions, that is fine too ;-)

I did one, as test, that used only the globe element from the logo.
You can see in the wiki I added a little comment that explained what I
did, so this work can be replicated later if needed.

Regards,

-Rob


 A few exceptions, of placements which will require some more thought:

 a) The splash screen is here:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/introabout/intro.png

 It has integrated text and graphics and the text is rather ugly.  Can
 we do better here?  This is a place where some wow is appropriate.

 b) Some of the placements have high contrast versions, needed for
 when this mode is enabled in the operating system.  This improves
 visibility for users with low vision.  For example:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/framework/res/backing_hc.png

 I think we need to consult with someone with expertise in this to know
 exactly what we should be doing here.

 c) This is from the SDK install:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/inc_sdkoo/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp

 As you can see it is a more elaborate, 3D image showing
 OpenOffice.org in the title bar.  This will require someone skilled
 with their graphics editor to replace that text and make it look
 natural.  Or redo the image.

 So plenty of work to do here for anyone who is good with a graphics
 editor and wants to help.

 But first we need Kevin and Alexandro to make their changes to the
 master SVG.  After that we can work in parallel on the remaining
 pieces.

 The master SVG, from Chris, is here:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/

 We have a little more than a week to do this, so can I strongly
 suggest that Kevin and Alexandro make their changes ASAP, and by
 Monday June 24th at the latest?

 Thanks!

 -Rob

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Copy of mail sent to LibreOffice

2013-06-26 Thread Kadal Amutham
Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice are developed by fully / mostly by
volunteers. Both serve the same purpose. Two separate teams of volunteers
are doing the same work. In both teams, many volunteers are translating
same sentences repeatedly.

As you are aware volunteers are not paid. So the time and effort of
volunteers are very precious and one should be very careful that there is
no wastage. In my opinion any wastage of volunteers effort and time is a
crime.

I am sorry to say that this crime is happening in both  LO and AOO


V.Kadal Amutham


Re: Copy of mail sent to LibreOffice

2013-06-26 Thread Kadal Amutham
My simple question why this wastage of effort and what purpose it serves?

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480
914422396480


On 27 June 2013 09:25, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 you can argue the same thing for every different linux distro. Thre are
 mantainers of the same software packages on two (or actually many) Linux
 distributions which are different FTP servers all over the internet that
 end up on the same mirrors. Volunteers do repetitive marketing and
 localization tasks for each distro.

 welcome to free software.


 On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@apache.org wrote:

  Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice are developed by fully / mostly by
  volunteers. Both serve the same purpose. Two separate teams of volunteers
  are doing the same work. In both teams, many volunteers are translating
  same sentences repeatedly.
 
  As you are aware volunteers are not paid. So the time and effort of
  volunteers are very precious and one should be very careful that there is
  no wastage. In my opinion any wastage of volunteers effort and time is a
  crime.
 
  I am sorry to say that this crime is happening in both  LO and AOO
 
 
  V.Kadal Amutham
 



 --
 Alexandro Colorado
 Apache OpenOffice Contributor
 http://www.openoffice.org



Re: Copy of mail sent to LibreOffice

2013-06-26 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:

 My simple question why this wastage of effort and what purpose it serves?

​Because we have two different licenses, Apache and GPL. These are
incompatible, there really is legal ramifications and benefits to have two
different licensed code of the same source. That said, this happens a lot
in fLOSS, gnome vs kde, emacs, vs vim, sodipodi vs inkscape.

FLOSS is the hability to fork.
​


 With Warm Regards

 V.Kadal Amutham
 919444360480
 914422396480


 On 27 June 2013 09:25, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

  you can argue the same thing for every different linux distro. Thre are
  mantainers of the same software packages on two (or actually many) Linux
  distributions which are different FTP servers all over the internet that
  end up on the same mirrors. Volunteers do repetitive marketing and
  localization tasks for each distro.
 
  welcome to free software.
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
   Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice are developed by fully / mostly by
   volunteers. Both serve the same purpose. Two separate teams of
 volunteers
   are doing the same work. In both teams, many volunteers are translating
   same sentences repeatedly.
  
   As you are aware volunteers are not paid. So the time and effort of
   volunteers are very precious and one should be very careful that there
 is
   no wastage. In my opinion any wastage of volunteers effort and time is
 a
   crime.
  
   I am sorry to say that this crime is happening in both  LO and AOO
  
  
   V.Kadal Amutham
  
 
 
 
  --
  Alexandro Colorado
  Apache OpenOffice Contributor
  http://www.openoffice.org
 




-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://www.openoffice.org