[UX][DESIGN EXPLORATION] - flat application icons

2013-06-26 Thread Kevin Grignon 
Hello all,

I've updated my flat application icons design exploration to show the icons
adjacent to the new flat logo.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Desktop+Icons

Scroll to end of page to see the flat icons.

Thoughts?

Regards,
Kevin

Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection

2013-05-28 Thread Kevin Grignon 
I like the darker font colour for Apache, but prefer all caps as it supports a 
more balanced layout. The descender or long leg of the Apache letter "p" when 
rendered in lowercase causes tension as it stabs the openOffice logo type. 

Thoughts?

Kevin



On May 28, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Kadal Amutham  wrote:

> Looks like we are retaining almost the current logo with some small changes
> 
> With Warm Regards
> 
> V.Kadal Amutham
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> 
> 
> On 28 May 2013 04:51, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 27, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>> 
>>> [This was cross-posted, so I'm not clear what list was intended.  Makes
>> tracking the discussion difficult.]
>>> 
>>> I'll bite:
>>> 
>>> I prefer Chris's latest.  The weight of the lettering is more powerful.
>> I think the "Apache" should not be so thin. The form used by Samer works
>> better.  I also think down-scaling will work better in this case.
>>> 
>>> As far as the orb goes, Chris's could be a tad larger, but not by much.
>> I prefer the orientation of the foreground bird to Kevin's, which has a
>> more threatening feel in my subjective experience.
>> 
>> These are good observations.
>> 
>> I would like to see it with an "ffi" ligature.
>> 
>> I think we should leave the 4 out. Others have mentioned that 4 is an
>> unlucky number is some cultures. Perhaps we have compromise and have both
>> versioned and un-versioned logo designs. If so then I think a treatment
>> like "Version 4.0" in grey and blue might work.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> - Dennis
>>> 
>>> PS: Interesting that we've come around to a close variant of the current
>> logo.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 03:22 PM
>>> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org; marketing@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Subject: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
>>> 
>>> What we've done so far:
>>> 
>>> 1) Called for logo submissions from the community
>>> 
>>> 2) Many designers responded and we received 40 submissions.  There was
>>> a lot of "cross-fertilization" of ideas, as designers saw what others
>>> had come up with, what worked, and borrowed ideas.
>>> 
>>> 3) We did a survey of user responses to the 40 logo submissions.  Over
>>> 5000 users offered their ratings and written comments.
>>> 
>>> 4) Publish report and blog post on the results of the logo survey.
>>> 
>>> 5) Invited the designers of the top-rated logos to read over the
>>> survey comments and refine their designs and submit an updated
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> That's where we are now.  The updated logos (three of them) are on the
>> wiki now:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement
>>> 
>>> As you can see there is quite a bit of convergence on a design occurring.
>>> 
>>> So what next?
>>> 
>>> I'd like to propose some next steps.
>>> 
>>> A) Let's discuss the three designs on the mailing list for the next
>>> week.   The discussion might lead to further refinement.
>>> 
>>> B) If at the end of the week there is consensus on a single design
>>> we'll go with that one.
>>> 
>>> C) If at the end of the week there is not consensus on a single
>>> design, and the discussion is not leading us closer toward consensus,
>>> then we'll have a 72-hour vote of PMC members to pick the logo.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> -Rob
>>> 
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Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection

2013-05-28 Thread Kevin Grignon 
Hello all,

I wanted to share some design rationale for the gull/book pages enhancement in 
my logo. 

In my design I wanted to make the "gulls" into flying books. I made them 
broader and more active. I was going for the whole, "OpenOffice helps give my 
thoughts and ideas wings", versus "gills at sunset". 

Thoughts?

Kevin 

On May 28, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Kadal Amutham  wrote:

> Looks like we are retaining almost the current logo with some small changes
> 
> With Warm Regards
> 
> V.Kadal Amutham
> 919444360480
> 914422396480
> 
> 
> On 28 May 2013 04:51, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 27, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>> 
>>> [This was cross-posted, so I'm not clear what list was intended.  Makes
>> tracking the discussion difficult.]
>>> 
>>> I'll bite:
>>> 
>>> I prefer Chris's latest.  The weight of the lettering is more powerful.
>> I think the "Apache" should not be so thin. The form used by Samer works
>> better.  I also think down-scaling will work better in this case.
>>> 
>>> As far as the orb goes, Chris's could be a tad larger, but not by much.
>> I prefer the orientation of the foreground bird to Kevin's, which has a
>> more threatening feel in my subjective experience.
>> 
>> These are good observations.
>> 
>> I would like to see it with an "ffi" ligature.
>> 
>> I think we should leave the 4 out. Others have mentioned that 4 is an
>> unlucky number is some cultures. Perhaps we have compromise and have both
>> versioned and un-versioned logo designs. If so then I think a treatment
>> like "Version 4.0" in grey and blue might work.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> - Dennis
>>> 
>>> PS: Interesting that we've come around to a close variant of the current
>> logo.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 03:22 PM
>>> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org; marketing@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Subject: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
>>> 
>>> What we've done so far:
>>> 
>>> 1) Called for logo submissions from the community
>>> 
>>> 2) Many designers responded and we received 40 submissions.  There was
>>> a lot of "cross-fertilization" of ideas, as designers saw what others
>>> had come up with, what worked, and borrowed ideas.
>>> 
>>> 3) We did a survey of user responses to the 40 logo submissions.  Over
>>> 5000 users offered their ratings and written comments.
>>> 
>>> 4) Publish report and blog post on the results of the logo survey.
>>> 
>>> 5) Invited the designers of the top-rated logos to read over the
>>> survey comments and refine their designs and submit an updated
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> That's where we are now.  The updated logos (three of them) are on the
>> wiki now:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement
>>> 
>>> As you can see there is quite a bit of convergence on a design occurring.
>>> 
>>> So what next?
>>> 
>>> I'd like to propose some next steps.
>>> 
>>> A) Let's discuss the three designs on the mailing list for the next
>>> week.   The discussion might lead to further refinement.
>>> 
>>> B) If at the end of the week there is consensus on a single design
>>> we'll go with that one.
>>> 
>>> C) If at the end of the week there is not consensus on a single
>>> design, and the discussion is not leading us closer toward consensus,
>>> then we'll have a 72-hour vote of PMC members to pick the logo.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> -Rob
>>> 
>>> -
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>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection

2013-05-28 Thread Kevin Grignon 
Hello All,

I propose we get feedback on second round and identify what aspects of each we 
like. 

Let's converge on a design which reflects the best if each. 

Regards,
Kevin


On May 28, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Kadal Amutham  wrote:

> Looks like we are retaining almost the current logo with some small changes
> 
> With Warm Regards
> 
> V.Kadal Amutham
> 919444360480
> 914422396480
> 
> 
> On 28 May 2013 04:51, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 27, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>> 
>>> [This was cross-posted, so I'm not clear what list was intended.  Makes
>> tracking the discussion difficult.]
>>> 
>>> I'll bite:
>>> 
>>> I prefer Chris's latest.  The weight of the lettering is more powerful.
>> I think the "Apache" should not be so thin. The form used by Samer works
>> better.  I also think down-scaling will work better in this case.
>>> 
>>> As far as the orb goes, Chris's could be a tad larger, but not by much.
>> I prefer the orientation of the foreground bird to Kevin's, which has a
>> more threatening feel in my subjective experience.
>> 
>> These are good observations.
>> 
>> I would like to see it with an "ffi" ligature.
>> 
>> I think we should leave the 4 out. Others have mentioned that 4 is an
>> unlucky number is some cultures. Perhaps we have compromise and have both
>> versioned and un-versioned logo designs. If so then I think a treatment
>> like "Version 4.0" in grey and blue might work.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> - Dennis
>>> 
>>> PS: Interesting that we've come around to a close variant of the current
>> logo.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 03:22 PM
>>> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org; marketing@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Subject: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
>>> 
>>> What we've done so far:
>>> 
>>> 1) Called for logo submissions from the community
>>> 
>>> 2) Many designers responded and we received 40 submissions.  There was
>>> a lot of "cross-fertilization" of ideas, as designers saw what others
>>> had come up with, what worked, and borrowed ideas.
>>> 
>>> 3) We did a survey of user responses to the 40 logo submissions.  Over
>>> 5000 users offered their ratings and written comments.
>>> 
>>> 4) Publish report and blog post on the results of the logo survey.
>>> 
>>> 5) Invited the designers of the top-rated logos to read over the
>>> survey comments and refine their designs and submit an updated
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> That's where we are now.  The updated logos (three of them) are on the
>> wiki now:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement
>>> 
>>> As you can see there is quite a bit of convergence on a design occurring.
>>> 
>>> So what next?
>>> 
>>> I'd like to propose some next steps.
>>> 
>>> A) Let's discuss the three designs on the mailing list for the next
>>> week.   The discussion might lead to further refinement.
>>> 
>>> B) If at the end of the week there is consensus on a single design
>>> we'll go with that one.
>>> 
>>> C) If at the end of the week there is not consensus on a single
>>> design, and the discussion is not leading us closer toward consensus,
>>> then we'll have a 72-hour vote of PMC members to pick the logo.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> -Rob
>>> 
>>> -
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Re: Branding Refresh For AOO 4.0 [Closing in 72hrs]

2013-03-06 Thread Kevin Grignon 
Hello all,

Recruiting designers is great, and if we start to refine our current design 
submissions, we can leverage any additional support to accelerate the design 
avtivity  

As a reminder, we have a number of submissions that we should start 
considering. 

Design is iterative, we need to review the submissions and identify which 
design elements resonate, and continue to iterate.

It feels like the challenge right now is how to move the iterative design 
process forward. 

I could propose a process to help drive the design process forward. 

Thoughts?

Kevin



On Mar 6, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Samer Mansour  wrote:

> That looks great!
> 
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
>> On 02/03/2013 Samer Mansour wrote:
>> 
>>> I've populated some minimal how to participate info on
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>> Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+**Refresh+Project
>>> .
>>> Could you help with making that a blog post?  Even if its short "Call
>>> For Designers" And a link to the above
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks. I've put together a draft blog post, using your text, at
>> 
>> http://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=**
>> call_for_designers_apache_**openoffice
>> 
>> Comments/suggestions welcome.
>> 
>> Regards,
>>  Andrea.
>> 
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Re: Branding Refresh For AOO 4.0 [Closing in 72hrs]

2013-02-26 Thread Kevin Grignon 
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kevin Grignon
wrote:

> My pleasure.
>
> On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:26 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
>
> > Kevin Grignon if you have spare time and experience in the area of design
> > language and messaging your help would be really appreciated as I have
> > limited experience in this area.  If you have a cwiki account, I don't
> mind
> > if you alter the pages I've worked on.
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+Refresh+Project
> >
> > Andrea I'll try to populate the wiki better so that it leads into each
> > design area and add more contact information and submission help so
> > volunteers know how to subscribe to the marketing mailing list and post
> > their proposals to the cwiki. Then we can blog saying we need designers
> for
> > ideas and to help implement.
> >
> > This is going to take me a few days, I'm really busy in the next day or
> so.
> >
> > Samer
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Andrea Pescetti  >wrote:
> >
> >> On 23/02/2013 Rob Weir wrote:
> >>
> >>> My advice:  continue pushing the effort forward, but avoid the
> >>> perception of exclusion that comes by specifying a hard deadline,
> >>> especially a sudden one.  The progress of AOO 4.0 will create its own
> >>> practical deadline.
> >>>
> >>
> >> And my advice (in addition to agreeing with Rob on this): get exposure.
> >>
> >> The text in
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> >> Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+**Refresh+Project<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+Refresh+Project
> >
> >> can be copied almost verbatim to a blog post that can generate
> awareness,
> >> traffic and involvement, and perhaps a few unusable submissions, but
> also a
> >> few good ones.
> >>
> >> Choosing a new logo is an occasion to get more attention on one hand,
> and
> >> a duty to inform current users on the other hand: we are changing a
> >> well-known brand and this need proper communication.
> >>
> >> I've already written this, but it would be good to add to
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> >> Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+**Refresh+Project<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+Refresh+Project>(and
> to the possible blog post) some contact information, possibly the
> >> marketing or dev list. If you tweak the text so that it can be used as a
> >> blog post, I can take care of posting it to
> http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>  Andrea.
> >>
>

KG-01: I've added my logo submissions to the 4.0 logo concepts page.

See:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations

Regards,
Kevin

Re: Branding Refresh For AOO 4.0 [Closing in 72hrs]

2013-02-24 Thread Kevin Grignon 
My pleasure. 

On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:26 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:

> Kevin Grignon if you have spare time and experience in the area of design
> language and messaging your help would be really appreciated as I have
> limited experience in this area.  If you have a cwiki account, I don't mind
> if you alter the pages I've worked on.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+Refresh+Project
> 
> Andrea I'll try to populate the wiki better so that it leads into each
> design area and add more contact information and submission help so
> volunteers know how to subscribe to the marketing mailing list and post
> their proposals to the cwiki. Then we can blog saying we need designers for
> ideas and to help implement.
> 
> This is going to take me a few days, I'm really busy in the next day or so.
> 
> Samer
> 
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> 
>> On 23/02/2013 Rob Weir wrote:
>> 
>>> My advice:  continue pushing the effort forward, but avoid the
>>> perception of exclusion that comes by specifying a hard deadline,
>>> especially a sudden one.  The progress of AOO 4.0 will create its own
>>> practical deadline.
>>> 
>> 
>> And my advice (in addition to agreeing with Rob on this): get exposure.
>> 
>> The text in
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+**Refresh+Project<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+Refresh+Project>
>> can be copied almost verbatim to a blog post that can generate awareness,
>> traffic and involvement, and perhaps a few unusable submissions, but also a
>> few good ones.
>> 
>> Choosing a new logo is an occasion to get more attention on one hand, and
>> a duty to inform current users on the other hand: we are changing a
>> well-known brand and this need proper communication.
>> 
>> I've already written this, but it would be good to add to
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+**Refresh+Project<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+Refresh+Project>(and
>>  to the possible blog post) some contact information, possibly the
>> marketing or dev list. If you tweak the text so that it can be used as a
>> blog post, I can take care of posting it to http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/
>> 
>> Regards,
>>  Andrea.
>>