Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-24 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir :

> Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the
> continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a
> proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself
> started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries
> .
>
> So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary.
>
> Any ideas what we might do?
>
> For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that
> can run the original StarWriter?
>

I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about a
StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it?

Roberto



>
> It looks like some emulators here:
>
> http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32
>
> It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to
> release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution
> of the UI.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini
 wrote:
> 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir :
>
>> Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the
>> continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a
>> proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself
>> started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries
>> .
>>
>> So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary.
>>
>> Any ideas what we might do?
>>
>> For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that
>> can run the original StarWriter?
>>
>
> I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about a
> StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it?
>

Cool!

This is from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History

It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was
released in 1985.

No idea where to get the code.   Maybe Juergen or another "old-timer"
would have a clue for us?

-Rob

> Roberto
>
>
>
>>
>> It looks like some emulators here:
>>
>> http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32
>>
>> It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to
>> release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution
>> of the UI.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-24 Thread Marcus
Thats a great idea. Unfortunately, I'm not a very "old-timer" so I 
cannot help with appropriate hardware or software. But maybe with 
writting texts or translating from German.


Marcus



Am 10/24/2014 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the
continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a
proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself
started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries
.

So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary.

Any ideas what we might do?

For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that
can run the original StarWriter?

It looks like some emulators here:

http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32

It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to
release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution
of the UI.


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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-24 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts

> On 2014-10 -24, at 11:15, Roberto Galoppini  
> wrote:
> 
> 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir :
> 
>> Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the
>> continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a
>> proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself
>> started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries
>> .
>> 
>> So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary.
>> 
>> Any ideas what we might do?
>> 
>> For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that
>> can run the original StarWriter?
>> 
> 
> I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about a
> StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it?
> 
> Roberto

You could ask the originators of the program. Eg, Marco Boerries, now—or was—of 
No. 4 (as in his 4th company), or early (and still at it) developers, many of 
whom are now at Open-X (I think that’s what it’s called), in Hamburg. Perhaps 
Juergen knows.
louis
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> It looks like some emulators here:
>> 
>> http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32
>> 
>> It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to
>> release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution
>> of the UI.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> -Rob
>> 
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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-26 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Rob,

Rob Weir schrieb:

Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the
continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a
proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself
started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries
.

So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary.

Any ideas what we might do?

For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that
can run the original StarWriter?

It looks like some emulators here:

http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32

It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to
release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution
of the UI.


I've got "StarWriter 2.0 Compact" with one of my first PCs. The CD from 
1994 is still readable. It contains a version for Win and one for OS/2. 
Both together around 11MB. But that are binaries of cause, no source.


Kind regards
Regina


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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-27 Thread Malte Timmermann
Honestly, I don't agree on 30th Anniversary, but see 2015 as 25th 
Anniversary.


StarWriter for text screens was written in Lueneburg near Hamburg. In 
Pascal. By people which later didn't work on StarWriter for Windows.


In 1990, Marco started the new StarDivision location in Hamburg. 
StarWriter for GUI systems to be developed from scratch. Written in C++. 
By completely different people.


When I started there in 1991, there was only a Writer prototype, as we 
also needed to first develop StarView, the class library for abstracting 
from Windows, OS/2, Mac and Unix Motif. Yes, there was a StarWriter Mac 
version in the beginning, long before it was canceled, and many years 
went by before there was one again! The concept of StarView was to 
create native system widgets for their corresponding components. As this 
approach lead to different issues, and not all systems had the same set 
of widgets, we later replaced StarView with VCL, as you know it today.


First versions of StarOffice for Windows contained Calc and Draw 
developed outside from StarDivision, both using their own technology 
stack. Iirc, StarOffice 3.0 was the first version of the suite with all 
components based on StarView.


The English Wiki referenced page below is misleading wrt versions. There 
also was a StarWriter 1.0 for Windows, many years after StarWriter 1.0 
for DOS (which already was available in version 6 then).


The version history is much better documented on the German Wiki page: 
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice


Just some historical data :)

Best regards
Malte.



On 24.10.2014 17:25, Rob Weir wrote:

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini
 wrote:

2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir :


Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the
continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a
proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself
started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries
.

So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary.

Any ideas what we might do?

For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that
can run the original StarWriter?



I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about a
StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it?



Cool!

This is from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History

It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was
released in 1985.

No idea where to get the code.   Maybe Juergen or another "old-timer"
would have a clue for us?

-Rob


Roberto





It looks like some emulators here:

http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32

It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to
release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution
of the UI.

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-27 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Malte!
So, you do realize this is probably one of the very very few witness
accounts we have of the origins of StarOffice? (later OpenOffice) ... and
if you were to consent to writing more--or being interviewed in a podcast
for more--we, or at least I, would be grateful... and better informed of
that application that has so formed my adult life.

best
louis

On 27 October 2014 14:53, Malte Timmermann  wrote:

> Honestly, I don't agree on 30th Anniversary, but see 2015 as 25th
> Anniversary.
>
> StarWriter for text screens was written in Lueneburg near Hamburg. In
> Pascal. By people which later didn't work on StarWriter for Windows.
>
> In 1990, Marco started the new StarDivision location in Hamburg.
> StarWriter for GUI systems to be developed from scratch. Written in C++. By
> completely different people.
>
> When I started there in 1991, there was only a Writer prototype, as we
> also needed to first develop StarView, the class library for abstracting
> from Windows, OS/2, Mac and Unix Motif. Yes, there was a StarWriter Mac
> version in the beginning, long before it was canceled, and many years went
> by before there was one again! The concept of StarView was to create native
> system widgets for their corresponding components. As this approach lead to
> different issues, and not all systems had the same set of widgets, we later
> replaced StarView with VCL, as you know it today.
>
> First versions of StarOffice for Windows contained Calc and Draw developed
> outside from StarDivision, both using their own technology stack. Iirc,
> StarOffice 3.0 was the first version of the suite with all components based
> on StarView.
>
> The English Wiki referenced page below is misleading wrt versions. There
> also was a StarWriter 1.0 for Windows, many years after StarWriter 1.0 for
> DOS (which already was available in version 6 then).
>
> The version history is much better documented on the German Wiki page:
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice
>
> Just some historical data :)
>
> Best regards
> Malte.
>
>
>
>
> On 24.10.2014 17:25, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir :
>>>
>>>  Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the
 continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a
 proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself
 started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries
 .

 So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary.

 Any ideas what we might do?

 For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that
 can run the original StarWriter?


>>> I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about
>>> a
>>> StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it?
>>>
>>>
>> Cool!
>>
>> This is from Wikipedia:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History
>>
>> It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was
>> released in 1985.
>>
>> No idea where to get the code.   Maybe Juergen or another "old-timer"
>> would have a clue for us?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>  Roberto
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 It looks like some emulators here:

 http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32

 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to
 release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution
 of the UI.

 Regards,

 -Rob

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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-27 Thread Alphonso Whitfield III




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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 1:57:48 PM 
Subject: Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary 

Malte! 
So, you do realize this is probably one of the very very few witness 
accounts we have of the origins of StarOffice? (later OpenOffice) ... and 
if you were to consent to writing more--or being interviewed in a podcast 
for more--we, or at least I, would be grateful... and better informed of 
that application that has so formed my adult life. 

best 
louis 

On 27 October 2014 14:53, Malte Timmermann  wrote: 

> Honestly, I don't agree on 30th Anniversary, but see 2015 as 25th 
> Anniversary. 
> 
> StarWriter for text screens was written in Lueneburg near Hamburg. In 
> Pascal. By people which later didn't work on StarWriter for Windows. 
> 
> In 1990, Marco started the new StarDivision location in Hamburg. 
> StarWriter for GUI systems to be developed from scratch. Written in C++. By 
> completely different people. 
> 
> When I started there in 1991, there was only a Writer prototype, as we 
> also needed to first develop StarView, the class library for abstracting 
> from Windows, OS/2, Mac and Unix Motif. Yes, there was a StarWriter Mac 
> version in the beginning, long before it was canceled, and many years went 
> by before there was one again! The concept of StarView was to create native 
> system widgets for their corresponding components. As this approach lead to 
> different issues, and not all systems had the same set of widgets, we later 
> replaced StarView with VCL, as you know it today. 
> 
> First versions of StarOffice for Windows contained Calc and Draw developed 
> outside from StarDivision, both using their own technology stack. Iirc, 
> StarOffice 3.0 was the first version of the suite with all components based 
> on StarView. 
> 
> The English Wiki referenced page below is misleading wrt versions. There 
> also was a StarWriter 1.0 for Windows, many years after StarWriter 1.0 for 
> DOS (which already was available in version 6 then). 
> 
> The version history is much better documented on the German Wiki page: 
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice 
> 
> Just some historical data :) 
> 
> Best regards 
> Malte. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 24.10.2014 17:25, Rob Weir wrote: 
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>>> 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir : 
>>> 
>>> Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the 
>>>> continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a 
>>>> proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself 
>>>> started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries 
>>>> . 
>>>> 
>>>> So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. 
>>>> 
>>>> Any ideas what we might do? 
>>>> 
>>>> For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that 
>>>> can run the original StarWriter? 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about 
>>> a 
>>> StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it? 
>>> 
>>> 
>> Cool! 
>> 
>> This is from Wikipedia: 
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History 
>> 
>> It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was 
>> released in 1985. 
>> 
>> No idea where to get the code. Maybe Juergen or another "old-timer" 
>> would have a clue for us? 
>> 
>> -Rob 
>> 
>> Roberto 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> It looks like some emulators here: 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 
>>>> 
>>>> It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to 
>>>> release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution 
>>>> of the UI. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> 
>>>> -Rob 
>>>> 
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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-28 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Regina, 

> From: Regina Henschel [mailto:rb.hensc...@t-online.de] 

> I've got "StarWriter 2.0 Compact" with one of my first PCs. 
> The CD from 
> 1994 is still readable. It contains a version for Win and one 
> for OS/2. 
> Both together around 11MB. But that are binaries of cause, no source.

Interesting. 

What are the system requirements for the Windows version? Is suitable Win 98 or 
is it too new? (I'm afraid it will be too new)


Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-28 Thread Malte Timmermann

Hi Louis,

I am not interested in being interviewed in a podcast, but if you have 
specific questions, just let me know. Private email to my web.de 
account, as I don't follow the mails on the AOO/LO lists on a regular 
base, except for the security lists.


And you are right wrt many early developers working for Open-Xchange now :)

We are 14(!) former colleagues from Sun's OpenOffice.org.team. 12 of 
them even already worked for StarDivision.


Same focus - Office productivity, ODF and OOXML.

Just different technology - now written for the browser.

Best regards
Malte.



On 27.10.2014 19:57, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

Malte!
So, you do realize this is probably one of the very very few witness
accounts we have of the origins of StarOffice? (later OpenOffice) ... and
if you were to consent to writing more--or being interviewed in a podcast
for more--we, or at least I, would be grateful... and better informed of
that application that has so formed my adult life.

best
louis

On 27 October 2014 14:53, Malte Timmermann  wrote:


Honestly, I don't agree on 30th Anniversary, but see 2015 as 25th
Anniversary.

StarWriter for text screens was written in Lueneburg near Hamburg. In
Pascal. By people which later didn't work on StarWriter for Windows.

In 1990, Marco started the new StarDivision location in Hamburg.
StarWriter for GUI systems to be developed from scratch. Written in C++. By
completely different people.

When I started there in 1991, there was only a Writer prototype, as we
also needed to first develop StarView, the class library for abstracting
from Windows, OS/2, Mac and Unix Motif. Yes, there was a StarWriter Mac
version in the beginning, long before it was canceled, and many years went
by before there was one again! The concept of StarView was to create native
system widgets for their corresponding components. As this approach lead to
different issues, and not all systems had the same set of widgets, we later
replaced StarView with VCL, as you know it today.

First versions of StarOffice for Windows contained Calc and Draw developed
outside from StarDivision, both using their own technology stack. Iirc,
StarOffice 3.0 was the first version of the suite with all components based
on StarView.

The English Wiki referenced page below is misleading wrt versions. There
also was a StarWriter 1.0 for Windows, many years after StarWriter 1.0 for
DOS (which already was available in version 6 then).

The version history is much better documented on the German Wiki page:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice

Just some historical data :)

Best regards
Malte.




On 24.10.2014 17:25, Rob Weir wrote:


On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini
 wrote:


2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir :

  Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the

continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a
proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself
started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries
.

So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary.

Any ideas what we might do?

For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that
can run the original StarWriter?



I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about
a
StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it?



Cool!

This is from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History

It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was
released in 1985.

No idea where to get the code.   Maybe Juergen or another "old-timer"
would have a clue for us?

-Rob

  Roberto






It looks like some emulators here:

http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32

It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to
release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution
of the UI.

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-28 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Jörg,

Jörg Schmidt schrieb:

Hello Regina,


From: Regina Henschel [mailto:rb.hensc...@t-online.de]



I've got "StarWriter 2.0 Compact" with one of my first PCs.
The CD from
1994 is still readable. It contains a version for Win and one
for OS/2.
Both together around 11MB. But that are binaries of cause, no source.


Interesting.

What are the system requirements for the Windows version? Is suitable Win 98 or 
is it too new? (I'm afraid it will be too new)



I have not found any information in the files. But the OS of my PC at 
that time was a "Windows 3.11 for Workgroups".


Kind regards
Regina


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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-10-28 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi Malte,

> On 2014-10 -28, at 04:22, Malte Timmermann  wrote:
> 
> Hi Louis,
> 
> I am not interested in being interviewed in a podcast, but if you have 
> specific questions, just let me know. Private email to my web.de account, as 
> I don't follow the mails on the AOO/LO lists on a regular base, except for 
> the security lists.

Okay. I think it would be as others expressed, to give more on the early 
history of a rather significant artifact. The early history of the application 
is something that continues with us, and it’s also something that’s frankly 
interesting, at least to those of us curious about how multiperson 
collaborations of this sort are conceived and then produced over decades. 
> 
> And you are right wrt many early developers working for Open-Xchange now :)

Yes, and perhaps one day we’ll even see something (I joke; there is already 
something).
> 
> We are 14(!) former colleagues from Sun's OpenOffice.org.team. 12 of them 
> even already worked for StarDivision.

Wow. 
> 
> Same focus - Office productivity, ODF and OOXML.

Hm. You might want to share with us what’s going on over there….

> 
> Just different technology - now written for the browser.

Right. Can you edit in the browser? I mean, edit ODF or OOXML docs. using, for 
instance, Chrome or Firefox or Safari?


> 
> Best regards
> Malte.
> 
Best,
Louis
> 
> 
> On 27.10.2014 19:57, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>> Malte!
>> So, you do realize this is probably one of the very very few witness
>> accounts we have of the origins of StarOffice? (later OpenOffice) ... and
>> if you were to consent to writing more--or being interviewed in a podcast
>> for more--we, or at least I, would be grateful... and better informed of
>> that application that has so formed my adult life.
>> 
>> best
>> louis
>> 
>> On 27 October 2014 14:53, Malte Timmermann  wrote:
>> 
>>> Honestly, I don't agree on 30th Anniversary, but see 2015 as 25th
>>> Anniversary.
>>> 
>>> StarWriter for text screens was written in Lueneburg near Hamburg. In
>>> Pascal. By people which later didn't work on StarWriter for Windows.
>>> 
>>> In 1990, Marco started the new StarDivision location in Hamburg.
>>> StarWriter for GUI systems to be developed from scratch. Written in C++. By
>>> completely different people.
>>> 
>>> When I started there in 1991, there was only a Writer prototype, as we
>>> also needed to first develop StarView, the class library for abstracting
>>> from Windows, OS/2, Mac and Unix Motif. Yes, there was a StarWriter Mac
>>> version in the beginning, long before it was canceled, and many years went
>>> by before there was one again! The concept of StarView was to create native
>>> system widgets for their corresponding components. As this approach lead to
>>> different issues, and not all systems had the same set of widgets, we later
>>> replaced StarView with VCL, as you know it today.
>>> 
>>> First versions of StarOffice for Windows contained Calc and Draw developed
>>> outside from StarDivision, both using their own technology stack. Iirc,
>>> StarOffice 3.0 was the first version of the suite with all components based
>>> on StarView.
>>> 
>>> The English Wiki referenced page below is misleading wrt versions. There
>>> also was a StarWriter 1.0 for Windows, many years after StarWriter 1.0 for
>>> DOS (which already was available in version 6 then).
>>> 
>>> The version history is much better documented on the German Wiki page:
>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice
>>> 
>>> Just some historical data :)
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> Malte.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 24.10.2014 17:25, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> 
 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini
  wrote:
 
> 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir :
> 
>  Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the
>> continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a
>> proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself
>> started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries
>> .
>> 
>> So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary.
>> 
>> Any ideas what we might do?
>> 
>> For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that
>> can run the original StarWriter?
>> 
>> 
> I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about
> a
> StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it?
> 
> 
 Cool!
 
 This is from Wikipedia:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History
 
 It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was
 released in 1985.
 
 No idea where to get the code.   Maybe Juergen or another "old-timer"
 would have a clue for us?
 
 -Rob
 
  Roberto
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> It looks like some emulators here:
>> 
>> http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32
>> 
>> It might be int

English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary)

2014-10-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 27/10/2014 Alphonso Whitfield III wrote:

When is the English language dictionary going to be fixed in the spell
checker application?


The English dictionary is not supposed to be fixed since it already 
works. If it doesn't work for you, try resettin your user profile. There 
are plenty of explanations around, see for example 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426


Note that your comment has nothing to do with the original topic of this 
discussion. Please do change at least the subject (and possibly start a 
new discussion instead of replying to an existing one).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary)

2014-10-27 Thread Alphonso Whitfield III





Wrong answer.The end user should not have to fix anything it should work when 
the product is downloaded or the application should not be included in the 
download. 

It worked without difficulty prior to the latest version being released. I sent 
true end users to download the software , they downloaded the software and the 
spell check dictionary did not work. This damages our credibility as an 
alternative solution to pay for products that are available. 

What is the timeline for the download to be corrected? 




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Subject: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary) 

On 27/10/2014 Alphonso Whitfield III wrote: 
> When is the English language dictionary going to be fixed in the spell 
> checker application? 

The English dictionary is not supposed to be fixed since it already 
works. If it doesn't work for you, try resettin your user profile. There 
are plenty of explanations around, see for example 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 

Note that your comment has nothing to do with the original topic of this 
discussion. Please do change at least the subject (and possibly start a 
new discussion instead of replying to an existing one). 

Regards, 
Andrea. 

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Re: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary)

2014-10-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 28/10/2014 Alphonso Whitfield III wrote:

Wrong answer.The end user should not have to fix anything it should
work when the product is downloaded or the application should not be
included in the download. It worked without difficulty prior to the
latest version being released. I sent true end users to download the
software , they downloaded the software and the spell check
dictionary did not work. This damages our credibility as an
alternative solution to pay for products that are available. What is
the timeline for the download to be corrected?


Of course it's a bug (OpenOffice does not deliberately break the user 
profile) and it was deeply investigated and presumably fixed some time 
back, but once your profile is corrupted you can't fix it by 
reinstalling or updating OpenOffice: you need to reset your profile. I 
already sent relevant links and most of our Release Notes contain 
instructions on how to fix the bug.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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