Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device
On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 06:18:21PM +0200, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Write a press release proposal then :) I am not married to my proposal, > but I am not writing a new one based on others people's vague ideas :) Yes Sir, Christian Sir! :-) I can attempt to write one later today. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 09:12 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 03:30:37PM +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote: > > On Thu, 26 May 2005 13:57:31 +0200 > > Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > The news is "Nokia shows how brilliant GNOME is" - in one foul swoop > > > this news pushes GNOME (like it or not) into the mobile device market. > > > > > > > The other way around makes it news: > > > > GNOME (?: enters) mobile devise market with Nokia -> additional > > details -> Quotes of people involved -> XZY says: "This is an additonal > > (?: prove) that GNOME's (?: strategy) of providing enables > > Yes, I like this angle better. It creates the same impression, Dave > mentioned. That way the focus is primarily on GNOME not on Nokia. > > sri Write a press release proposal then :) I am not married to my proposal, but I am not writing a new one based on others people's vague ideas :) Christian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device
On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 03:30:37PM +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote: > On Thu, 26 May 2005 13:57:31 +0200 > Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > The news is "Nokia shows how brilliant GNOME is" - in one foul swoop > > this news pushes GNOME (like it or not) into the mobile device market. > > > > The other way around makes it news: > > GNOME (?: enters) mobile devise market with Nokia -> additional > details -> Quotes of people involved -> XZY says: "This is an additonal > (?: prove) that GNOME's (?: strategy) of providing enables Yes, I like this angle better. It creates the same impression, Dave mentioned. That way the focus is primarily on GNOME not on Nokia. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device
On Thu, 26 May 2005 13:57:31 +0200 Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > The news is "Nokia shows how brilliant GNOME is" - in one foul swoop > this news pushes GNOME (like it or not) into the mobile device market. > The other way around makes it news: GNOME (?: enters) mobile devise market with Nokia -> additional details -> Quotes of people involved -> XZY says: "This is an additonal (?: prove) that GNOME's (?: strategy) of providing enables to ." Of course, this is just an example: I have no knowledge about mobile devises, and haven't look into yesterday's footnotes annoucements deeply. And btw, if I wouldn't like GNOME, I'd certainly spend my time elsewhere. > It plays directly to one of the markets we talked about before, ISVs. > GNOME and GTK+ now appear to be in the process of becoming the de > facto choice for ISVs on Linux (Firefox, OOo, Eclipse, and now > Nokia). > > It is also a massive vote of confidence for the usability work which > has been done at the toolkit level in GNOME, making the writing of > usable applications easy. > > This is a huge reinforcement of the direction which GNOME has taken > since before the 2.0 release, and we should release something saying > "Ain't we great". > I wouldn't recommend it. Journalists get "Ain't we great?" stuff all the time from bad PR consultants. If we don't play the game according to its rules, we'll just get a bad reputation and less press coverage. Think of a press release as a text that could be printed 1:1 in a newspaper. I can't imaging the above text in my newspaper. Can you? The impression "Ain't we great" is build by _regular_ press releases about wins, successes, etc. Cheers, Claus -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device
> The news is "Nokia shows how brilliant GNOME is" - in one foul swoop this
> news pushes GNOME (like it or not) into the mobile device market.
Ouch dude, "fell" swoop, please (cf. Macbeth). :-) Otherwise, yes, I fully
agree. Perhaps we should make sure there is an interesting angle beyond what
the press have already reported ("Nokia uses Open Source / GNOME technology,
news at 11.")
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Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device
Hi, The news is "Nokia shows how brilliant GNOME is" - in one foul swoop this news pushes GNOME (like it or not) into the mobile device market. It plays directly to one of the markets we talked about before, ISVs. GNOME and GTK+ now appear to be in the process of becoming the de facto choice for ISVs on Linux (Firefox, OOo, Eclipse, and now Nokia). It is also a massive vote of confidence for the usability work which has been done at the toolkit level in GNOME, making the writing of usable applications easy. This is a huge reinforcement of the direction which GNOME has taken since before the 2.0 release, and we should release something saying "Ain't we great". Cheers, Dave. Claus Schwarm a écrit : Hi, certainly Nokia's use of GNOME tech is great but where's the news value of the press release? Most journalists are not happy about getting press releases without any value; just like developers who are complaining when irrelevant stuff is sent to desktop-devel. Cheers, Claus -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device
Hi, certainly Nokia's use of GNOME tech is great but where's the news value of the press release? Most journalists are not happy about getting press releases without any value; just like developers who are complaining when irrelevant stuff is sent to desktop-devel. Cheers, Claus -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device
Hi, Ok, updated once again with Murray's fixes, changed great to good in the hope that it is more formal :) Christian On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 11:03 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > sucessful -> successful > like say thank Fluendo -> like to thank Fluendo > ranging from the use of -> from the use of > > About "great", it probably is indeed too informal. So is "It's" at the > start of a sentence. "We are pleased to see industry leaders ..." would > be a possible replacement. > > I'd say "industry leaders" instead of "an industry leader", because > Nokia are actually one of the last mobile companies to announce use of > Linux, though one of the first to announce use of GNOME. > > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 10:44 +0200, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller > wrote: > > Attached an updated version with most of Simos change suggestions, I > > didn't change great to impressive as the economist style guidelines says > > you should go with a short word instead of a long one when possible > > (thanks to luis for pointing me to that guide :) > > > > Christian > > > > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 01:14 +0100, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > > Nice work! > > > > > > Just nitpicking, not something substantial to change. ::) > > > > > > 1. "It's great to see an industry leader such as..." > > > "It is impressive to see an industry leader such as..." > > > I feel it's too informal to use "It's great to see". Sounds too > > > US-english. > > > > > > 2. "It's great to see an industry leader such as..." > > > "It is great to see an industry leader such as..." > > > > > > 3. " Nokia's use of many GNOME technologies, " > > > "Nokia's use of several GNOME technologies," > > > I would prefer "several" to "many". Again the issue on informality. > > > > > > 4. Regarding Nokia, patents and the Linux kernel. I suppose you are > > > referring to > > > http://www.nokia.co.uk/nokia/0,,28358,00.html?press_release_id=http://press.nokia.com/PR/200505/995845.xml > > > As Alex mentioned, I feel it is risky to mention here. > > > > > > 5. "We think Nokia have set an example to follow.”, says Chairman of > > > the " > > > "We think Nokia have set an example to follow”, says Chairman of the " > > > I think it looks strange to add the full stop. Anyone? > > > > > > Simos > > > > > > Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > > > > > > >Attached is a press release draft I wrote, edited and cleaned up a bit > > > >by Murray. > > > > > > > >Christian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GNOME Foundation congratulates Nokia on launch of Nokia 770 > > > > > > > > Nokia Corporation launched today the Nokia 770 web tablet based on > > > > GNOME open source technologies > > > > > > > > May 25, 2005 - Boston, USA > > > > > > > > The GNOME Foundation would like to congratulate Nokia on their > > > > sucessful launch of the Nokia 770 web tablet. It's great to see an > > > > industry leader such as Nokia bring GNU/Linux and GNOME technologies > > > > to the mobile devices market. > > > > > > > > Nokia's use of many GNOME technologies, such as GTK+, GStreamer, > > > > GConf, GNOME-VFS and dbus, acknowledges the effort made by hundreds of > > > > people over the last few years. This also shows how the GNOME > > > > community allows a wide variety of companies and individuals to > > > > successfully work together. > > > > > > > > This is in addition to Nokia's previous granting of patent rights to > > > > Linux Kernel developers. The GNOME Foundation is truly excited by > > > > Nokia's involvement and looks forward to extending the relationship > > > > during this year's GUADEC conference in Stuttgart, where Nokia is one > > > > of the presenters. > > > > > > > > The GNOME Foundation would also like say thank Fluendo, OpenedHand and > > > > Imendio who have worked with Nokia on this device, providing expertise > > > > in the use of GNOME technologies. > > > > > > > > “The GNOME Foundation is happy to see Nokia taking a very open > > > > approach with this project, ranging from the use of open source > > > > software to Creative Commons licensing for the graphics and artwork. > > > > We think Nokia have set an example to follow.”, says Chairman of the > > > > GNOME Foundation board, Owen Taylor. > > > > > > > > > > > > About the GNOME Foundation > > > > > > > > Comprised of hundreds of volunteer developers and industry-leading > > > > companies, the GNOME Foundation is committed to supporting the > > > > advancement of GNOME. The Foundation provides organizational, > > > > financial and legal support to the GNOME project and helps determine > > > > its vision and roadmap. GNOME is an entirely free user environment for > > > > desktops, networked servers and portable Internet devices. The modern > > > > architecture and design of GNOME includes a technically advanced > > > > application development platform and a powerful end-user desktop
Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device
sucessful -> successful like say thank Fluendo -> like to thank Fluendo ranging from the use of -> from the use of About "great", it probably is indeed too informal. So is "It's" at the start of a sentence. "We are pleased to see industry leaders ..." would be a possible replacement. I'd say "industry leaders" instead of "an industry leader", because Nokia are actually one of the last mobile companies to announce use of Linux, though one of the first to announce use of GNOME. On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 10:44 +0200, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Attached an updated version with most of Simos change suggestions, I > didn't change great to impressive as the economist style guidelines says > you should go with a short word instead of a long one when possible > (thanks to luis for pointing me to that guide :) > > Christian > > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 01:14 +0100, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > Nice work! > > > > Just nitpicking, not something substantial to change. ::) > > > > 1. "It's great to see an industry leader such as..." > > "It is impressive to see an industry leader such as..." > > I feel it's too informal to use "It's great to see". Sounds too US-english. > > > > 2. "It's great to see an industry leader such as..." > > "It is great to see an industry leader such as..." > > > > 3. " Nokia's use of many GNOME technologies, " > > "Nokia's use of several GNOME technologies," > > I would prefer "several" to "many". Again the issue on informality. > > > > 4. Regarding Nokia, patents and the Linux kernel. I suppose you are > > referring to > > http://www.nokia.co.uk/nokia/0,,28358,00.html?press_release_id=http://press.nokia.com/PR/200505/995845.xml > > As Alex mentioned, I feel it is risky to mention here. > > > > 5. "We think Nokia have set an example to follow.”, says Chairman of the " > > "We think Nokia have set an example to follow”, says Chairman of the " > > I think it looks strange to add the full stop. Anyone? > > > > Simos > > > > Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > > > > >Attached is a press release draft I wrote, edited and cleaned up a bit > > >by Murray. > > > > > >Christian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GNOME Foundation congratulates Nokia on launch of Nokia 770 > > > > > > Nokia Corporation launched today the Nokia 770 web tablet based on > > > GNOME open source technologies > > > > > > May 25, 2005 - Boston, USA > > > > > > The GNOME Foundation would like to congratulate Nokia on their > > > sucessful launch of the Nokia 770 web tablet. It's great to see an > > > industry leader such as Nokia bring GNU/Linux and GNOME technologies > > > to the mobile devices market. > > > > > > Nokia's use of many GNOME technologies, such as GTK+, GStreamer, > > > GConf, GNOME-VFS and dbus, acknowledges the effort made by hundreds of > > > people over the last few years. This also shows how the GNOME > > > community allows a wide variety of companies and individuals to > > > successfully work together. > > > > > > This is in addition to Nokia's previous granting of patent rights to > > > Linux Kernel developers. The GNOME Foundation is truly excited by > > > Nokia's involvement and looks forward to extending the relationship > > > during this year's GUADEC conference in Stuttgart, where Nokia is one > > > of the presenters. > > > > > > The GNOME Foundation would also like say thank Fluendo, OpenedHand and > > > Imendio who have worked with Nokia on this device, providing expertise > > > in the use of GNOME technologies. > > > > > > “The GNOME Foundation is happy to see Nokia taking a very open > > > approach with this project, ranging from the use of open source > > > software to Creative Commons licensing for the graphics and artwork. > > > We think Nokia have set an example to follow.”, says Chairman of the > > > GNOME Foundation board, Owen Taylor. > > > > > > > > > About the GNOME Foundation > > > > > > Comprised of hundreds of volunteer developers and industry-leading > > > companies, the GNOME Foundation is committed to supporting the > > > advancement of GNOME. The Foundation provides organizational, > > > financial and legal support to the GNOME project and helps determine > > > its vision and roadmap. GNOME is an entirely free user environment for > > > desktops, networked servers and portable Internet devices. The modern > > > architecture and design of GNOME includes a technically advanced > > > application development platform and a powerful end-user desktop > > > environment. Major software companies and computer manufacturers > > > support the GNOME development effort, which is led by a worldwide > > > community of volunteers. More information on GNOME is available at > > > www.gnome.org. > > > > > > > > > About Nokia > > > > > > Nokia is a world leader in mobile communications, driving the growth > > > and sustainability of the broader mob
Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device
Attached an updated version with most of Simos change suggestions, I didn't change great to impressive as the economist style guidelines says you should go with a short word instead of a long one when possible (thanks to luis for pointing me to that guide :) Christian On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 01:14 +0100, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > Nice work! > > Just nitpicking, not something substantial to change. ::) > > 1. "It's great to see an industry leader such as..." > "It is impressive to see an industry leader such as..." > I feel it's too informal to use "It's great to see". Sounds too US-english. > > 2. "It's great to see an industry leader such as..." > "It is great to see an industry leader such as..." > > 3. " Nokia's use of many GNOME technologies, " > "Nokia's use of several GNOME technologies," > I would prefer "several" to "many". Again the issue on informality. > > 4. Regarding Nokia, patents and the Linux kernel. I suppose you are > referring to > http://www.nokia.co.uk/nokia/0,,28358,00.html?press_release_id=http://press.nokia.com/PR/200505/995845.xml > As Alex mentioned, I feel it is risky to mention here. > > 5. "We think Nokia have set an example to follow.”, says Chairman of the " > "We think Nokia have set an example to follow”, says Chairman of the " > I think it looks strange to add the full stop. Anyone? > > Simos > > Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > > >Attached is a press release draft I wrote, edited and cleaned up a bit > >by Murray. > > > >Christian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GNOME Foundation congratulates Nokia on launch of Nokia 770 > > > > Nokia Corporation launched today the Nokia 770 web tablet based on > > GNOME open source technologies > > > > May 25, 2005 - Boston, USA > > > > The GNOME Foundation would like to congratulate Nokia on their > > sucessful launch of the Nokia 770 web tablet. It's great to see an > > industry leader such as Nokia bring GNU/Linux and GNOME technologies > > to the mobile devices market. > > > > Nokia's use of many GNOME technologies, such as GTK+, GStreamer, > > GConf, GNOME-VFS and dbus, acknowledges the effort made by hundreds of > > people over the last few years. This also shows how the GNOME > > community allows a wide variety of companies and individuals to > > successfully work together. > > > > This is in addition to Nokia's previous granting of patent rights to > > Linux Kernel developers. The GNOME Foundation is truly excited by > > Nokia's involvement and looks forward to extending the relationship > > during this year's GUADEC conference in Stuttgart, where Nokia is one > > of the presenters. > > > > The GNOME Foundation would also like say thank Fluendo, OpenedHand and > > Imendio who have worked with Nokia on this device, providing expertise > > in the use of GNOME technologies. > > > > “The GNOME Foundation is happy to see Nokia taking a very open > > approach with this project, ranging from the use of open source > > software to Creative Commons licensing for the graphics and artwork. > > We think Nokia have set an example to follow.”, says Chairman of the > > GNOME Foundation board, Owen Taylor. > > > > > > About the GNOME Foundation > > > > Comprised of hundreds of volunteer developers and industry-leading > > companies, the GNOME Foundation is committed to supporting the > > advancement of GNOME. The Foundation provides organizational, > > financial and legal support to the GNOME project and helps determine > > its vision and roadmap. GNOME is an entirely free user environment for > > desktops, networked servers and portable Internet devices. The modern > > architecture and design of GNOME includes a technically advanced > > application development platform and a powerful end-user desktop > > environment. Major software companies and computer manufacturers > > support the GNOME development effort, which is led by a worldwide > > community of volunteers. More information on GNOME is available at > > www.gnome.org. > > > > > > About Nokia > > > > Nokia is a world leader in mobile communications, driving the growth > > and sustainability of the broader mobility industry. Nokia connects > > people to each other and the information that matters to them with > > easy-to-use and innovative products like mobile phones, devices and > > solutions for imaging, games, media and businesses. Nokia provides > > equipment, solutions and services for network operators and > > corporations. www.nokia.com > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.16 - Release Date: 24/05/2005 > Title: GNOME Foundation congratulates Nokia on launch of Nokia 770 GNOME Foundation congratulates Nokia on launch of Nokia 770 Nokia Corporation launched today the Nokia 770 web tablet based on GNOME open source technologies May 25,
