Marketing and 10x10
I love the concept of 10x10, When I downloaded the Project Topaz (Guadec) stream. I was so totally won over by the idea. Should Gnome marketing plant the seed or what ? Karl -- - Karl Fischer Drone, Human and Gnome User I support 10x10. Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal Site : http://fischer.org.za - smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 20:39 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Here it is then: > http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gmt-spreadtheword.png > http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gmt-spreadtheword.svg "Spread the word about GNOME. Join the marketing team" would be snappier than "Would you like to spread the word about your favourite Desktop Environment? Join the marketing team". -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Distributions based on Gnome 2.8 as primary DE
Hi Sankarshan, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: A group of friends are trying out a desktop proposed to be based on Gnome 2.8 and are looking to various distributions which use Gnome 2.8 as the primary (and perhaps only !) DE. Is it possible to collate some URLs - this is probably the wrong list to ask (I feel), but nevertheless Marketing would perhaps be the best bet. The customised desktop is to be aimed at kids 2-12 with lots of games and applications thrown in for edutainment. Cute looking themes and icon sets are also the need of the day. There is a list of distributions which ship with GNOME maintained by Davyd Madeley at http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/footware.shtml - it's generated by screen-scraping distrowatch. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Distributions based on Gnome 2.8 as primary DE
Hi, A group of friends are trying out a desktop proposed to be based on Gnome 2.8 and are looking to various distributions which use Gnome 2.8 as the primary (and perhaps only !) DE. Is it possible to collate some URLs - this is probably the wrong list to ask (I feel), but nevertheless Marketing would perhaps be the best bet. The customised desktop is to be aimed at kids 2-12 with lots of games and applications thrown in for edutainment. Cute looking themes and icon sets are also the need of the day. Regards Sankarshan -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
>>> http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gmt-spreadtheword.png My 2 cents: - message ok - illustration cool (maybe the shout is too loud what in this age of self-contention shouting out loud may be even therapeutic) - colors... to me GNOME is about living and natural colors. Actually the GNOME 1.4 splash with that street and old houses was one of the reasons that made feel quickly confident with GNOME. OK, beats and flies and cows can be naturally grey and black but... What about trying some more optimistic colors? - Bitstream Vera Sans was actually another reason that made fall in fall with GNOME, just in case you care. :) Serif fonts tend to seem too serious and formal and the mixture of upper-lower case... still don't whether I like it or no (maybe yes with a sans serif). But anyway, the whole thing is attractive and, don't worry, even if it lasts just some days in the gnome.org homepage it has a well deserved heading position in the Marketing Team space! Quim signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
Hi, Jeff Waugh wrote: Here it is then: http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gmt-spreadtheword.png http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gmt-spreadtheword.svg Is it usable? The style does not really evoke GNOME, but we don't really have a standard for that yet. For a new and interesting look, I like it. It would probably not be our front page splash for long, because it doesn't really follow our traditional style. Please always use the Bitstream Vera fonts in images such as this, it is our standard font (despite using Trebuchet MS in the logo). Echo. By the way, what does the GNOME font look like with bold Trebuchet? And can we easily change the trademark to use it, if it looks OK? Now (before we start producing merchandise) would be a good time :) Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
> Here it is then: > http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gmt-spreadtheword.png > http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gmt-spreadtheword.svg > > Is it usable? The style does not really evoke GNOME, but we don't really have a standard for that yet. Please always use the Bitstream Vera fonts in images such as this, it is our standard font (despite using Trebuchet MS in the logo). - Jeff -- GNOME Summit 2005: October 10th-12thhttp://live.gnome.org/Boston2005 "I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity." - George W. Bush (by way of Miles Nordin) -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Andreas Nilsson a écrit : I have an ad-ish image in the works that could be placed on the gnome.org frontpage (where the Guadec logo currently is). It would also be cool to put something about the Summer of Code on there at some time, but I have to wait before the weather gets better over here before I can take any good photos for that one. What do you think about that idea? Go for it! I'm all for it. Adding Tim to the CC list. Here it is then: http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gmt-spreadtheword.png http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gmt-spreadtheword.svg Is it usable? - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Drawing the pretty pictures
> sri mentions on his blog that he heard Steve Gerrity is working on > www.gnome.org (layout, I assume). This seems to be a good chance to > establish a style that is usable across different media. Sri, any more > info on that? I've been talking to Steve about building the brand guide, and applying it to various GNOME resources (including the website). - Jeff -- OSCON 2005: August 1st-5th http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/ He's not an idiot. The doctor said so. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Drawing the pretty pictures
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 02:40:54PM +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote: > On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:02:38 +0200 > Andreas Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In the long run it would be nice of course to have a style guide > > for all the flyers and printed stuff, gnome.org web and other stuff to > > make it all fit together nicley. But that is a whole bunch of work and > > coordinating the art on the liveCD is satisfying for now. > > sri mentions on his blog that he heard Steve Gerrity is working on > www.gnome.org (layout, I assume). This seems to be a good chance to > establish a style that is usable across different media. Sri, any more > info on that? Yeah, Jeff was telling me about that. I liked Steve's work on planet a lot and I had mentioned that Steve should tackle w.g.o next. So I think Steve is a good person to talk to. > Maybe Sebastien likes to help, too? He made several suggestions for > posters, and is doing the gnome.org splash screens. I think I got my brother to check out Ubuntu and he's a graphics artist but I'm not sure if he'll do it for free. Maybe I'll just pay him. :-) Sebastian did some nice ones I remember. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
Hi, Andreas Nilsson a écrit : I have an ad-ish image in the works that could be placed on the gnome.org frontpage (where the Guadec logo currently is). It would also be cool to put something about the Summer of Code on there at some time, but I have to wait before the weather gets better over here before I can take any good photos for that one. What do you think about that idea? Go for it! I'm all for it. Adding Tim to the CC list. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
Quim Gil wrote: I think gnomedesktop.org is a great place to post something like this. News submitted. In the queue for approval, I guess. I have an ad-ish image in the works that could be placed on the gnome.org frontpage (where the Guadec logo currently is). It would also be cool to put something about the Summer of Code on there at some time, but I have to wait before the weather gets better over here before I can take any good photos for that one. What do you think about that idea? - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
> I think gnomedesktop.org is a great place to post something like this. News submitted. In the queue for approval, I guess. How to bring new contributors to GNOME The Marketing Team has started a new project to ease the arrival of new contributors through the GNOME websites: Getting Involved. Some ideas: improving the exposure of projects needing help in the gnome.org sites, looking for contributors instead of developers, inviting Windows/Mac users to get a first GNOME experience through GTK applications they can install... The Marketing Team wiki space is the first Guinea pig: ideas about how to make them appealing to contributors are welcome. Interested? Get involved! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
Hi Quim, Quim Gil a écrit : Amazingly enough, with all these gnome sites is not clear if I can post something like this in one of them and.. which? It's great that you're identifying these problems. The sites (roughly speaking) are: http://gnomejournal.org: quarterly magazine with 6 to 8 artciles written by GNOME contributors. Claus is the current editor. http://gnomedesktop.org: News site about GNOME - for both internal and external usage. http://planet.gnome.org: Blog aggregator for GNOME developers - pretty exclusive right now. http://gnomefiles.org: GNOME application repository. http://gnomesupport.org: User forums, mailing lists and wiki entirely user-run, with very little developer input right now. http://www.gnome.org and http://foundation.gnome.org are currently aimed towards users, and failing badly at it. They should be a mix of gnomesupport and gnomedesktop. http://developer.gnome.org and http://live.gnome.org are intended for developer use. http://art.gnome.org is intended to get all the artists in one place, and aggregate their work. As you point out, many of these sites are missing their goals, either because they're not "official" sites, or because they're not analysed in terms of what their target audience wants from the site. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:07:13 +0200 Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A practical example: > > Since GettingInvolved is a good opportunity for new contributors like > myself, I'm thinking of writing a couple of lines describing the > project and asking for help. And then publish it... where? > > Amazingly enough, with all these gnome sites is not clear if I can > post something like this in one of them and.. which? > > http://www.gnomejournal.org/ looks like death > The GNOME Journal is not dead; we just found out during our current issue that we need to reorganize a little bit. When these issues are fixed, we will hopefully be able to publish every two months. However, annoucements like the one you intent to do (or a call for help) is best published by footnotes (gnomesupport.org), of course. Cheers, Claus -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Where to call for contributors
Quim Gil wrote: A practical example: Since GettingInvolved is a good opportunity for new contributors like myself, I'm thinking of writing a couple of lines describing the project and asking for help. And then publish it... where? http://gnomedesktop.org/ is alive, but it looks like having news for the outside and not for the inside (?) I think gnomedesktop.org is a great place to post something like this. It is read by people who are very interested in the project, but have not yet made any contributions to the project. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Where to call for contributors
A practical example: Since GettingInvolved is a good opportunity for new contributors like myself, I'm thinking of writing a couple of lines describing the project and asking for help. And then publish it... where? Amazingly enough, with all these gnome sites is not clear if I can post something like this in one of them and.. which? http://www.gnomejournal.org/ looks like death http://gnomedesktop.org/ is alive, but it looks like having news for the outside and not for the inside (?) What is supposed to be the difference between both sites? Probably the answer is to send a message to the list X, but I'm one of many those receiving already zillion emails and being realy reluctant to subscribing to a new list... This problem I'm facing now is possibly one of the problems of any team looking for new contributors. Quim signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting involved through the website
> So if you (or others) have the will, the time and the ability to take a > big axe to the GNOME website, please feel free to do so. There is a mispelling. You mean "So if you and others...". :) will: sounds very challeging. time: very attached to will, as we know. ability: apparently yes. But let me doublecheck that my involvement in the MarketingTeam and the GNOME community in general is not just a post-GUADEC effect but something more permanent. > One of the > things which I would like to do (and which was discussed at the board > during GUADEC) is to transfer control of the content of the site to the > marketing team, and leave the infrastructure under the control of the > sysadmins & web team. This makes sense. The GettingInvolved project is a good test in this direction because it already implies changes in the main gnome.org site and some recommendations for parts of the whole *.gnome.org. This test will help us as well to start exercising as the MarketingTeam this control (or initiative at least) over structure, content and look&feel. > You're absolutely right. There are artists around the GNOME and the > GIMP, but for the moment, they are not being organised and directed. GettingInvolved should start solving this problem. > Plus, when you start talking about visual image, > it's very important to have a coherent vision GettingInvolved IS NOT going to solve this key problem. :) Quim signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting involved through the website
Hi, Quim Gil a écrit : Since WebImprovements would be too broad and would clash with the work of the GNOME Webhackers, I've gone for something more specific: Please don't be too afraid of stepping on the toes of the GNOME web hackers. Typically, websites like ours are maintained by people more concerned with infrastructure (is the web server running OK? Do we need to upgrade Apache module X?) rather than the look, feel and content of the site. Often, changes are as small as "Add a link to new press release". So if you (or others) have the will, the time and the ability to take a big axe to the GNOME website, please feel free to do so. One of the things which I would like to do (and which was discussed at the board during GUADEC) is to transfer control of the content of the site to the marketing team, and leave the infrastructure under the control of the sysadmins & web team. One thing the project is in need of is more artists. (...) For some reason few people seems interested in contributing directly to that. For some reason http://art.gnome.org/ is not asking for help, and nor does http://gnome-look.org/ . You land on these sites and you see hundreds of icons, screenshots, splash screens... You need to be a medium or a woman to guess that the GNOME project needs designers. :) You're absolutely right. There are artists around the GNOME and the GIMP, but for the moment, they are not being organised and directed. art.gnome.org could fulfill that function, but right now it's a contrib site for desktop stuff, not a database of artists prepared to work on GNOME's visual image. Plus, when you start talking about visual image, it's very important to have a coherent vision, which isn't really conducive to having dozens of artists... it's difficult to find a balance between too many artists and too few working on the visual identity of the project. Right now we have too few :) Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
