Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-24 Thread Simos Xenitellis

David Neary wrote:



Hi,

Claus Schwarm wrote:


I don't think this is a very professional solution. If June changes for
reasons we can't influence, we'd need to correct it in another press
release. Otherwise we'd risk much confusion. No need to say how
unfortunate this would be.



I disagree. We should announce this as soon as possible. The news is 
already out there.


As I said in another mail (which appears to have been way-laid) the 
dates are incidental to the news. The news is GUADEC going to 
Barcelona. The rest is detail that can be refined later.


Indeed, it will help more people to plan in advance that they have to 
attend GUADEC '06 in Barcelona (sometime next June).





If the board or the orga team really like to get this out, we should
mention no date, and write something like "Time and date will be
announced later."



I don't understand your caution. There is no harm in announcing "early 
June", which is a confirmed period.


+1 for Luis's reccommendation to release ASAP.


+1 from me as well.

Simos
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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-24 Thread David Neary


Hi,

Claus Schwarm wrote:

I don't think this is a very professional solution. If June changes for
reasons we can't influence, we'd need to correct it in another press
release. Otherwise we'd risk much confusion. No need to say how
unfortunate this would be.


I disagree. We should announce this as soon as possible. The news is 
already out there.


As I said in another mail (which appears to have been way-laid) the 
dates are incidental to the news. The news is GUADEC going to Barcelona. 
The rest is detail that can be refined later.



If the board or the orga team really like to get this out, we should
mention no date, and write something like "Time and date will be
announced later."


I don't understand your caution. There is no harm in announcing "early 
June", which is a confirmed period.


+1 for Luis's reccommendation to release ASAP.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-24 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:20:52 -0400
Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> So I vote announce 'June 2006' ASAP, and figure out exact dates soon
> but without blocking other things.
> 
> Luis
> 


I don't think this is a very professional solution. If June changes for
reasons we can't influence, we'd need to correct it in another press
release. Otherwise we'd risk much confusion. No need to say how
unfortunate this would be.

If the board or the orga team really like to get this out, we should
mention no date, and write something like "Time and date will be
announced later." This is the thruth and not some guess work that may
bite us in the back later. The next press release then announces when,
and how long GUADEC will be, and maybe what sessions are planned.

However, I don't see any need to publish right now. The value of the
press release is date and place of the conference; the rest is just
background information, anyway. By using 'TBA', we'd loose value, and
thus impact.

If there are still open questions, we can wait until they are solved;
even if it takes the next three months or so. We don't miss any
particular chance by not publishing, AFAICS.

Cheers,
Claus
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Re: KDE + Wikipedia

2005-06-24 Thread Simos Xenitellis

Simos Xenitellis wrote:


Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:


The abiword guys would be interested as well since they have a wikipedia
plug in.

Strange they wanted a "KDE API" as opposed to "Linux Desktop API"
integration.  Maybe it's the same thing if the library is used by
everyone and doesn't involve qt.
 


Better have a look at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/KDE_and_Wikipedia

What it says is that Wikipedia will support on their side SOAP/WSDL as 
the standard to provide their
web service (as opposed to XML RPC which they are not going to use), 
and KDE, on their part, will create
an API so that KDE applications can use instead of having to interface 
directly with SOAP/WSDL to Wikipedia.


This does not block GNOME at all to create a similar API so that GTK+ 
applications can use to access Wikipedia content.

Is there a SOAP/WSDL library for GNOME?

Perhaps libsoup?
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2001-May/msg00045.html


Rather,
http://gsoap2.sourceforge.net/

Looks really cool, and it's gSOAP, not kSOAP :)

Simos




On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 09:26:19AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 


...

 http://dot.kde.org/1119552379/

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Re: KDE + Wikipedia

2005-06-24 Thread Simos Xenitellis

Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:


The abiword guys would be interested as well since they have a wikipedia
plug in.

Strange they wanted a "KDE API" as opposed to "Linux Desktop API"
integration.  Maybe it's the same thing if the library is used by
everyone and doesn't involve qt.
 


Better have a look at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/KDE_and_Wikipedia

What it says is that Wikipedia will support on their side SOAP/WSDL as 
the standard to provide their
web service (as opposed to XML RPC which they are not going to use), and 
KDE, on their part, will create
an API so that KDE applications can use instead of having to interface 
directly with SOAP/WSDL to Wikipedia.


This does not block GNOME at all to create a similar API so that GTK+ 
applications can use to access Wikipedia content.

Is there a SOAP/WSDL library for GNOME?

Perhaps libsoup?
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2001-May/msg00045.html

Simos


On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 09:26:19AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 


...

 http://dot.kde.org/1119552379/

- Jeff

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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-24 Thread Luis Villa
On 6/24/05, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've just got a meeting with Tim and John from the board and everything
> > goes ahead. But it is not clear yet the dates of the GUADEC itself
> > (within the range of 7 days available), and the board needs to decide on
> > this.
> >
> > Question: should we wait until the dates are 100% confirmed or could we
> > simply say that the GUADEC will be held at the beginning of June 2006
> > and translate&publish the press release now?
> 
> We should wait. It is very difficult for translators to cope with any
> changes. 

I don't think anyone is suggesting we change it; I think the
suggestion is 'say something vague now and get it out', and announce
specific dates later. This seems reasonable to me- there is still much
discussion to be had about how long GUADEC should be, and I'd hate to
pin us down now on that issue, and I'd hate to delay this announcement
any longer.

So I vote announce 'June 2006' ASAP, and figure out exact dates soon
but without blocking other things.

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Re: KDE + Wikipedia

2005-06-24 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
The abiword guys would be interested as well since they have a wikipedia
plug in.

Strange they wanted a "KDE API" as opposed to "Linux Desktop API"
integration.  Maybe it's the same thing if the library is used by
everyone and doesn't involve qt.

sri

On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 09:26:19AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> ...
> 
>   http://dot.kde.org/1119552379/
> 
> - Jeff
> 
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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-24 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:28:15 +0200
Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've just got a meeting with Tim and John from the board and everything
> goes ahead. But it is not clear yet the dates of the GUADEC itself
> (within the range of 7 days available), and the board needs to decide on
> this.
> 
> Question: should we wait until the dates are 100% confirmed or could we
> simply say that the GUADEC will be held at the beginning of June 2006
> and translate&publish the press release now?
> 
> Quim
> 

I'd wait until the dates are 100% confirmed, and the ink is dry.

Cheers, 
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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-24 Thread Murray Cumming
> I've just got a meeting with Tim and John from the board and everything
> goes ahead. But it is not clear yet the dates of the GUADEC itself
> (within the range of 7 days available), and the board needs to decide on
> this.
>
> Question: should we wait until the dates are 100% confirmed or could we
> simply say that the GUADEC will be held at the beginning of June 2006
> and translate&publish the press release now?

We should wait. It is very difficult for translators to cope with any
changes. Thanks.

Murray Cumming
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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-24 Thread Quim Gil
I've just got a meeting with Tim and John from the board and everything
goes ahead. But it is not clear yet the dates of the GUADEC itself
(within the range of 7 days available), and the board needs to decide on
this.

Question: should we wait until the dates are 100% confirmed or could we
simply say that the GUADEC will be held at the beginning of June 2006
and translate&publish the press release now?

Quim
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