Re: GNOME files disabled

2008-09-04 Thread Stormy Peters
Does somebody on the list have the right access to do this? And the time to
do this?
Stormy

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 according to a post by Eugenia Loli-Queru, GNOME files was hacked and
 she has no intentions to re-activate the site.[1]

 It currently re-directs to osnews.com.

 It would be nice if someone could remove the paragraph 'Get more
 software' on the GNOME community page [2] and maybe the link on
 the software map page as well [3].


 Cheers,
 Claus


 [1] http://osnews.com/staff/permalink.php/2897/goodbye_gnomefiles.html
 [2] http://www.gnome.org/community/
 [3] http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/
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Re: Revamping Friends of GNOME: help with web page text

2008-09-04 Thread Brian Cameron


Andreas:

I really like the photo of the one-laptop-per-child program and
the text.  I don't know how much room you have in the caption, but
it would be better to highlight the following:

- GNOME is free, which makes it the perfect desktop choice for
  humanitarian efforts, such as the one-laptop-per-child program
  which require an affordable desktop.
- The fact that GNOME is accessible, and also provides an affordable
  desktop for people with a wide range of disabilities, and is
  Section 508 compliant.
- Would also be good to have a link to the OLPC website, so people
  can read more.  I'd just make the OLPC reference a link.
- The fact that GNOME is translated into 3rd world languages, and
  that supporting GNOME supports technologies that help to bring the 3rd
  world better access to the information age.

I think this should be highlighted in the A Free And Open Source
Desktop For Everyone section rather than just being a caption for
an image, though.  I think the above facts are important to highlight
since it makes the humanitarian angle of wanting donations more clear
and should be highlighted in a very visible way on the front page.

On page 3 I would say that it Supports accessibility for users with
limited mobility, paralysis, blindness, vision problems such as
color blindness or low vision.  It is a Section 508 compliant desktop.
rather than just saying Supports accessibility

I would say into many of the world's 3rd languages rather than listing
a number.  You might also highlight that GNU-Linux based operating
systems support the widest range of 3rd world languages available.

A stupid grammar issue you can ignore if you want...

You say During 2008 the GNOME Foundation was able to help do lots of
great things by: Then each paragraph beings with past-tense words like
participated, ran, or held.  The first word should be a word that
makes sense if you put the word by in front of it, so the first word
of each paragraph should be participating, running, holding,
planning.  This seems like it would read better to me.

Or you could just update the header to say During 2008 the
GNOME Foundation was able to help do lots of great things by
doing the following:  With this type of header, the first words
of the paragraphs below would be correct as they are.  Though
Planned the first GNOME event in Asia would be more consistent
with the other paragraphs if you were to go this route.

Brian



Andreas Nilsson wrote:

Stormy Peters wrote:

Thoughts? Anyone willing to help with the web page?
  
Kalle Persson and myself want to look into the design of this during 
the weekend.

Hi!
Here are the designs Kalle and I did:
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page1.png
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page2.png
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page3.png

We were uncertain about some details, such as if it was only the Adopt 
a Hacker level that was monthly, plus some other stuff that I can't 
remember right now (do you Kalle?).
As the hippies we are, we also took the liberty to not follow the 
specification specifically. ;)
Hrm, no, seriously, we mostly rearranged some stuff and we hope it came 
out for the better.


There is also a svg with all the elements in it here if anyone wants to 
modify it: 
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/friends-of-gnome-design.svg 



We can fix the html and css for this unless someone else eagerly wants 
to do it (I recall some e-mail about this, but I can't seem to find it 
now). Not sure what's easiest.

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Re: GNOME files disabled

2008-09-04 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
Hi Stormy

On 9/4/08, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does somebody on the list have the right access to do this? And the time to
 do this?


I just did[0], I disabled /softwaremap/ and commented the reference to
Get More Software in /community/.

For your future reference, all gnome webs are maintained in SVN,
usually named project-web or likely, for example planet-web or
gnomebr-web, etc. You only need an svn account to modify them. Thanks
for the heads up :-).

In other light of this same topic, shall we worry about the absence of
a site like gnomefiles.org?

greetings

0 - http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnomeweb-wml?view=revisionrevision=6291
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Re: GNOME files disabled

2008-09-04 Thread Stormy Peters
What was gnomefiles? It sounds like a list of files found in GNOME but I
don't want to assume. :)
Stormy

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Diego Escalante Urrelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi Stormy

 On 9/4/08, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does somebody on the list have the right access to do this? And the time
 to
  do this?
 

 I just did[0], I disabled /softwaremap/ and commented the reference to
 Get More Software in /community/.

 For your future reference, all gnome webs are maintained in SVN,
 usually named project-web or likely, for example planet-web or
 gnomebr-web, etc. You only need an svn account to modify them. Thanks
 for the heads up :-).

 In other light of this same topic, shall we worry about the absence of
 a site like gnomefiles.org?

 greetings

 0 - http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnomeweb-wml?view=revisionrevision=6291

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Re: Revamping Friends of GNOME: help with web page text

2008-09-04 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
On 9/4/08, Brian Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Andreas:

  I really like the photo of the one-laptop-per-child program and
  the text.  I don't know how much room you have in the caption, but
  it would be better to highlight the following:

  - GNOME is free, which makes it the perfect desktop choice for
   humanitarian efforts, such as the one-laptop-per-child program
   which require an affordable desktop.

I confess I haven't read carefully every word in the text, but as I
read your email I thought that a nice thing to add would be something
like:
  Because GNOME is free, every contribution put into GNOME is
available to everyone

Ok, not the best wording, but I got the idea from a quick flashback to
those IBM videos of linux kid where the narrator says what he
learns we all learn, what he knows we all benefit from. I think it's
a nice idea we might want to take.

greetings
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Re: GNOME files disabled

2008-09-04 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Luis Villa wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What was gnomefiles? It sounds like a list of files found in GNOME but I
 don't want to assume. :)

 closer to addons.mozilla.org- information (including updates, news,
 etc.) about applications available for GNOME. One of those multiplier
 things that creates a lot of value by giving everyone who does a GNOME
 program a place to shout from.

 But also had a very low barrier to entry, which meant that it became
 about as useful as Freshmeat at one stage.

I'd say that ideally a replacement would have functionality similar to
a.m.o- ratings (including download counts and perhaps some sort of
'maturity' score based on the duration and number of updates) and
probably some editorial component for the front page.

Luis
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Re: GNOME files disabled

2008-09-04 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 2:01 AM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Luis Villa wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What was gnomefiles? It sounds like a list of files found in GNOME but I
 don't want to assume. :)

 closer to addons.mozilla.org- information (including updates, news,
 etc.) about applications available for GNOME. One of those multiplier
 things that creates a lot of value by giving everyone who does a GNOME
 program a place to shout from.

 But also had a very low barrier to entry, which meant that it became
 about as useful as Freshmeat at one stage.

 I'd say that ideally a replacement would have functionality similar to
 a.m.o- ratings (including download counts and perhaps some sort of
 'maturity' score based on the duration and number of updates) and
 probably some editorial component for the front page.



a.m.o is powered by Remora (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Remora). I
had a look at the code at some point, and it seemed to be hard coded
for Firefox and Thunderbird. However, there has been some efforts from
SugarLabs to modify the code to be more suitable for a generic
software map[1] - I'm not sure what the status of the project is right
now.

Thanks,
Sayamindu


[1] 
http://lists.lo-res.org/pipermail/its.an.education.project/2008-June/001019.html

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Re: GNOME files disabled

2008-09-04 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, 

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:38:34 -0500
Diego Escalante Urrelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Stormy
 
 On 9/4/08, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does somebody on the list have the right access to do this? And the
  time to do this?
 
 
 I just did[0], I disabled /softwaremap/ and commented the reference to
 Get More Software in /community/.
 

Thanks a lot!

[snip]
 In other light of this same topic, shall we worry about the absence of
 a site like gnomefiles.org?
 

From a marketing point of view: Yes.

A site such gnomefiles is pull marketing [1] for the GNOME development
platform, and also supports the desktop due to network effects [2].

It's just not as efficient as for other platforms because releases are
rather boring if they cannot be installed easily and immediately. That
was the central problem of gnomefiles.


Cheers,
Claus

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-Pull_strategy
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effects
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